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WASHINGTON — Proponents of reforming Social Security with private investment accounts are not deterred by the current economic crisis and stock market gyrations, but they acknowledge the idea now is a tougher political sell.
“It’d be a whole lot harder to sell a market-based investment approach,” Rep. Zach Wamp, R-Tenn., said after Congress passed a $700 billion Wall Street bailout. “This definitely deals a blow to that alternative.”
Still, Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., said with Social Security payouts expected to exceed the amount of payroll taxes being taken in by 2019, fundamental changes to the program are needed, including allowing taxpayers to invest a portion of their contributions.
“We went from 40 or so workers to one beneficiary at the beginning to three workers to one beneficiary today,” Sen. Isakson said. “Those numbers don’t work on any insurance model of any type. We shouldn’t reject personal investment out of hand.”
Social Security, created 73 years ago by President Franklin Roosevelt as part of his New Deal to provide retirement and disability benefits, is funded through a 12.4 percent payroll tax on income up to $102,000. The benefit program is the largest source of income for two out of three retirees, according to SSA data.
The increasing life expectancy of Americans and government borrowing from the program’s funds have led to estimates by the Social Security Administration that the program will be out of money by 2041.
In 2005, President Bush proposed reforming the program, saying he wanted to allow workers to put some of their payroll tax into private investment accounts that operate similar to 401(k) retirement plans.
Critics of the proposal, including most Democrats, said the move would expose retirees to excessive market risk and would reduce the program’s available funds to pay current retirees.
“It would take the one rock-solid, guaranteed part of your retirement income and gamble it on the stock market,” Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said last month at an AARP forum.
Republican nominee John McCain has said he remains open to private accounts.
Supporters contend workers would have the potential to earn more through shrewd investments than they would otherwise get through Social Security.
Even though the S&P 500 stock index is down 30 percent over the last year, investors in private accounts could have put their Social Security contributions into other more conservative investments, such as bonds and certificates of deposit, said Rep. Nathan Deal, R-Ga.
“Just because you have control over it doesn’t necessarily mean you had to put it in the stock market,” he said.
Supporters also said they would not support any changes to the program that would endanger payouts to retirees.
“I will not support any proposal that would bankrupt the system and does not provide a 100 percent guarantee that all current and future beneficiaries receive their benefits,” said Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.
Rep. Lincoln Davis, D-Tenn., remains opposed to any form of privatization, his spokesman said.
Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., has warned that Congress will have to wrestle with several impending financial crises, including Social Security’s looming insolvency.
Though he has voiced support for private accounts, Sen. Corker said Congress’ priority should be in making sure Social Security stays in the black.
“Once we have ensured that the program is solvent, I would consider proposals that give Americans more choice in planning for their retirement,” he said.
Rep. Wamp and Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., have backed proposals establishing an independent committee to hold public hearings and make recommendations on all government spending programs.
"Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., has warned that Congress will have to wrestle with several impending financial crises, including Social Security’s looming insolvency."
You are too late with that warning, Bob. You, Zach and Lamar gave away the money to fix Social Security and those other pesky "financial crises", remember? You each gave it to the Wall Street bankers. All $700,000,000,000 of it.
Rather short-sighted of you, that.
The basic -- some would say the ONLY -- reason Congress does not want privatization is because it takes money [in the Social Security fund] out of their hands and control.
Congress spends [excuse me..."borrows"] the ENTIRE Social Security fund each and every year, completely emptying the pot. They never "pay back" a cent of it, of course. They have been doing this for 40 or 50 years. That's enough to bail out Wall Street a couple-three more times.
So Congress is hooked on the SS fund. It does not want even a cent to be removed from its grubby little hands.
“It would take the one rock-solid, guaranteed part of your retirement income and gamble it on the stock market,” Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said last month at an AARP forum.
Let's review, my friend Mr. Wang (no offense):
1) There are a few crazy folks actually suggesting it is not "rock solid",
2) There are a few folks that actually understand SS is not guaranteed but a promise dependent on the grace and goodness of future congresses,
3) Providing the option (this means you don't have to do it) for a few folks to voluntarily decide to redirect part of their contributions to a private account which may or may not be directed to an array of finacial options, like money market funds, bonds, or even those crazy, risky mutual funds, does not seem to be accurately descibe by labling it a "gamble on the stock market",
4) Isn't the AARP the same group that supported taxing senior's ss and now generates more than half their revenues by schilling medicare (another government program that if it was actually adequate would not require supplements) supplement plans for that evil insurance company UHC?
Apparently pro-choice is only for deciding to terminate future ss contributors not the choice to keep or manage your ss contributions. I am trying to determine which is riskier; continuing to send $12,648, and more, every year to the ss administration to be spent by congress or giving a few folks the voluntary, don't have to do it, option of directing 20 or 25% of that money into a government guaranteed (really) bond or a guaranteed (really) money market fund, or even, God forbid, one of those crazy, Vegas type, well-balanced, diversified mutual funds that has always perfomed at least 5 times better than the current ss arrangement over every 10 year period in the last 73 years. I know it's crazy talk, but maybe it is part of the change I can believe in. Another thought: How do you bankrupt a ponzi scheme anyway? Thanks for listening. LD