published Monday, October 5th, 2009

Chattanooga: Coulter speech draws protesters

Protesters are standing outside UTC’s Fine Arts Center prior to a speech by controversial conservative lightning rod Ann Coulter.

“She feeds on animosity and bigotry and feeds off the shock factor. She has no solutions,” said Taylor Thomas, president of the Hamilton County Young Democrats and a student at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.

Ms. Coulter, a bestselling author of several political books and regular Fox News contributor, is part of the school’s Burkett Miller Lecture Series. Doors opened at 11:35 a.m. for the speech, which is being held in 500-seat Roland Hayes Concert Hall.

While only a handful of protesters showed up, hundreds of people interested in hearing Ms. Coulter lined up outside the Fine Arts Center prior to the speech.

The event is free, but high interest on campus led the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga to require attendees to have tickets to get in.

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Tiffo said...

Oh, they're just protesting her because she's white and she's a woman. Hey, if the libs can make accusations like that, so can we!

October 5, 2009 at 11:59 a.m.

As usual, Ann proved her anti-Free Speech detractors wrong. She used facts, humor and an enormous knowledge of present and past history to make her points. During question period she was polite and gracious to both Conservatives and Liberals, encouraging the Liberal students to speak up.

Of course most didn't, they are taught to slam us behind our backs, attack us and spew vile trashtalk instead of reasonable argument. The students protesting outside were just mad that security and police were there in force to prevent the usual violence when Ann speaks on campuses across the nation.

October 5, 2009 at 2:23 p.m.
Rivieravol said...

Would these be the same Dems who elected a President who listened to the rantings of the "Reverend," Wright for many years.

I guess "Free Speech," doesn't apply to white conservatives.

October 5, 2009 at 2:31 p.m.
redbearded said...

I just can't stand intolerance....

October 5, 2009 at 3:34 p.m.
Jhenry said...

Intolerance of what?

October 5, 2009 at 3:46 p.m.
hewlett said...

The freedom of speech guaranteed by the First Amendment is a limitation on the power of government to regulate/forbid speech. The protesters here are exercising their right to free speech, and Ms. Coulter is exercising hers. No governmental actors are involved, so "free speech" isn't an issue here.

October 5, 2009 at 3:47 p.m.
rolando said...

That's because the "gov't" [in the form of police/security] were there to ensure Ms Coulter's right to freely speak, hewlett.

October 5, 2009 at 3:58 p.m.

@canaryinthecoalmine: You and I must have attended different speeches. There were about five police officers "out in force," and the protesters were upset because of Ms. Coulter's hateful, sexist, and racist rhetoric. They stood quietly on a sidewalk while being yelled at by passerby and compassionate "Christians," possibly some of the same ones decrying their loss of free speech in North Georgia.

Ms. Coulter presented a poorly-timed stand-up routine, pausing awkwardly for laughs or applause that often didn't come. Her "facts" most often called out her opponents while failing to mention similar transgressions of those she supports. If she was spouting liberal rhetoric, it could have been Michael Moore, though I hear his timing is better. If you enjoy base, raunchy humor and think jokes that end with punchlines about child rape are funny, then this act was for you. If so, you probably also enjoyed the peep shows facilitated by her "conservative" short skirt each time she sat down.

The reason Ms. Coulter received so few questions from "liberals" is because the audience inside the Roland Hayes Concert Hall was made up of her supporters. Very few students or faculty were issued tickets to this University-sponsored event. The swapping of venues and lack of publicity about how to acquire tickets led many on both sides to leave disappointed. And how you can bring up back-stabbing when Ms. Coulter could not mention an opponent without a personal attack astounds me. I guess you heard what you wanted to hear.

The University spent $25,000 for an hour and a half of Ann Coulter then didn't allow students to be in the same room. That would nearly cover the tuition for five students or the salary for an English lecturer, who could teach hundreds of students, for an entire year. As the University cuts back classes and staff, I hardly think this was a responsible use of funds. The peep show her lack of couth and short skirt provided was priceless, though. Personally, I want a refund.

October 5, 2009 at 5:34 p.m.
bigDaddy said...

"The reason Ms. Coulter received so few questions from "liberals" is because the audience inside the Roland Hayes Concert Hall was made up of her supporters. Very few students or faculty were issued tickets to this University-sponsored event. The swapping of venues and lack of publicity about how to acquire tickets led many on both sides to leave disappointed. And how you can bring up back-stabbing when Ms. Coulter could not mention an opponent without a personal attack astounds me. I guess you heard what you wanted to hear.

The University spent $25,000 for an hour and a half of Ann Coulter then didn't allow students to be in the same room. That would nearly cover the tuition for five students or the salary for an English lecturer, who could teach hundreds of students, for an entire year. As the University cuts back classes and staff, I hardly think this was a responsible use of funds. The peep show her lack of couth and short skirt provided was priceless, though. Personally, I want a refund."

Everyone had the same chance to get tickets whether you were a supporter or not. As for a refund; you are obviously liberal. The admission was free and yet you still want something in return.

October 5, 2009 at 5:46 p.m.
captainrt said...

I wish people could stop choosing sides (Democrat/Republican) and focus on getting rid of the lawmakers that have placed us in this mess regardless of what party they represent. Politicians are like shoplifters, if you can learn how to distract you can walk off with the store. Let the woman talk, if you want to listen then do so but, always remain focused.

October 5, 2009 at 5:57 p.m.

@bigDaddy: My name has been on the list for tickets as long as there has been a list. The audience was filled with conservative community leaders and other members of the community. Very few tickets were issued to UTC faculty, staff, or students.

Ms. Coulter was paid $25,000 for her appearance today. My tuition increased this year and will most likely increase again next year. Staff have been cut back or let go. So there is a cost to me personally. However, I was being facetious about wanting a refund. You see, when I have to explain it to you it's just not as impactful.

October 5, 2009 at 6:06 p.m.
CollegeGraduate said...

Ann Coulter is one of the worst "media personalities" of our time. She says random stuff just to get attention and of course, money. I've listened to a few of her speeches/interviews, and I've noticed that she has this act going on were she will say something off the wall, and then apologize and rearrange it after it's over. She's a joke, and she's not even funny.

I'm an Independent, and I know several other Independents that highly disapprove of her also.

October 5, 2009 at 6:33 p.m.
inthenoog said...

I am totally with "somethingorother" I am just saddened that I didn't know about this speech, because I would have been there to protest with those few that did....

October 5, 2009 at 6:34 p.m.

To be fair, the liberal pundits use the same types of rhetoric as Ms. Coulter. Apparently there is no longer space for rational discourse on either side. As Dr. North stated in her commentary to Ms. Coulter's speech, and I'm paraphrasing, no one benefits when both sides are only interested in being right at all costs and will say anything to prove the other wrong. There is no room for compromise when we stop listening to rational arguments. And yes, both sides may have rational arguments. However, when name-calling and personal attacks are employed as rhetorical tools, credibility is lost.

October 5, 2009 at 6:48 p.m.
Lightnup said...

The Difference between Liberals and Conservatives (borrowed from a recent email)

If a conservative doesn’t like guns, they don’t buy one. If a liberal doesn’t like guns, then no one should have one.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, they don’t eat meat. If a liberal is, they want to ban all meat products for everyone.

If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy. A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.

If a conservative is homosexual, they quietly enjoy their life. If a liberal is homosexual, they loudly demand legislated respect.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church. A liberal wants all churches to be silenced.

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that his neighbors pay for his.

If a conservative doesn't like a speaker at a college lecture, he doesn't go. A liberal will either protest outside or go in and listen, then complain about how bad it was.

(That last one added for this thread.)

October 5, 2009 at 8:03 p.m.
cave_demon said...

Hey lightnup, you missed quite a few:

If a liberal is against abortion, they don't have one. If a conservative is against abortion, they bomb the clinic.

If a liberal doesn't support gay marriage, they don't go to the wedding. If a conservative is against it, they show up and protest and spend millions in ad time to fight it.

If a liberal hears cussing or sees sex on tv, they change the channel. If a conservative sees or hears it, they whine and moan that America has lost its values and try to get the government to step in a and create national standards.

If a liberal company fails, they go bankrupt. If a conservative company fails, they get bailed out by the government.

If a liberal protests the G20 summit, they're a rebel rouser that deserves to be tear-gassed, beaten up by cops, and thrown in jail. If a conservative protests by carrying a loaded assault rifle and carrying a picture of the president with a target on his forehead, he's a patriotic American simply expressing his constitutional rights.

If a news organization says anything bad about Bush or good about Obama, they're "liberal media", but if they say absolutely nothing but negatives against Obama while praising Bush, they're "fair and balanced".

A liberal who has no religion doesn't go to church. A conservative tries to shove their religion down everyone else's throats and gets their panties in a wad if someone tries to make christians follow the same rules as everyone else.

If a liberal is pro-life, they're anti-war. Conservatives can somehow call themselves pro-life while being pro-war.

If a liberal wants health care, they only want to pay their fair share and not be gouged. If a conservative wants health care, they turn on fox news to be told what they're opinion on the issue is going to be.

October 5, 2009 at 9:14 p.m.
bigDaddy said...

somethingorother

The point is that the people that hand out tickets don't check your political affiliation before doing so. To imply that there is something unfair in the process does not hold water.

By the way, I think Ann Coulter is "on the fringe" and is too far right for my own taste. However, I think she does serve a purpose of balancing out the far left, which absolutely gets the abundance of the press.

Also, as unfair as it may seem, whether someone paid Ann Coulter $25,000 to speak isn't going to reduce your tuition. If UTC paid Michael Moore a similar amount, I doubt you would complain. The fact is that the $25,000 that Ann allegedly got paid almost certainly would not offset your tuition one red dime. The source of the money was the Probasco Chair of Free Enterprise. If they had gotten a different speaker, your tuition would be the same.

October 5, 2009 at 9:31 p.m.
InspectorBucket said...

Sell by 10/05/09.

October 5, 2009 at 9:52 p.m.
Oz said...

Liberals are all about inclusion until you disagree with them.

October 5, 2009 at 10:26 p.m.
Oz said...

If a liberal wants health care, they only want to pay their fair share and not be gouged.....Wrong! You want the Government to take care of it. Start your own insurance company!

October 5, 2009 at 10:32 p.m.
cave_demon said...

Thanks Oz for telling me what I think. I must have lost my mind there for a minute. I need to listen to conservatives more often so they can tell me what to think. As a liberal, I don't know what it's like to rely on other people to tell me my opinions, like conservatives do. Silly me. I should just watch fox news, listen to Coulter and Limbaugh, read the bible, and not question a thing like a good little right-winger.

October 5, 2009 at 10:47 p.m.
Lightnup said...

Cave_Demon wrote: "Hey lightnup, you missed quite a few:

"If a liberal is against abortion, they don't have one. If a conservative is against abortion, they bomb the clinic."

Ilogical, liberals aren't against abortion

"If a liberal doesn't support gay marriage, they don't go to the wedding. If a conservative is against it, they show up and protest and spend millions in ad time to fight it."

Ilogical, liberals aren't against gay marriage.

"If a liberal hears cussing or sees sex on tv, they change the channel. If a conservative sees or hears it, they whine and moan that America has lost its values and try to get the government to step in a and create national standards."

Ilogical, it wouldn't occur to a liberal that cussing and sex aren't supposed to be on TV.

"If a liberal company fails, they go bankrupt. If a conservative company fails, they get bailed out by the government."

Illogical, liberals hate capitalism, they don't own companies, they unionize and try to bring companies down.

"If a liberal protests the G20 summit, they're a rebel rouser that deserves to be tear-gassed, beaten up by cops, and thrown in jail. If a conservative protests by carrying a loaded assault rifle and carrying a picture of the president with a target on his forehead, he's a patriotic American simply expressing his constitutional rights."

So, according to liberals, rioting and willfully destroying private property (see, proof that liberals destroy businesses) is on a par with lawfully carrying a weapon? How nice. I want to see your proof that someone carrying an assault rifle had a picture of the president with a target on his forehead.

"If a news organization says anything bad about Bush or good about Obama, they're "liberal media", but if they say absolutely nothing but negatives against Obama while praising Bush, they're "fair and balanced".

Hey, that's one I can agree with.

"A liberal who has no religion doesn't go to church. A conservative tries to shove their religion down everyone else's throats and gets their panties in a wad if someone tries to make christians follow the same rules as everyone else."

"If a liberal is pro-life, they're anti-war. Conservatives can somehow call themselves pro-life while being pro-war."

Ilogical, liberals aren't pro-life.

"If a liberal wants health care, they only want to pay their fair share and not be gouged. If a conservative wants health care, they turn on fox news to be told what they're opinion on the issue is going to be."

Illogical. To liberals, "fair share" just means someone else's money. And it's "their," not "they're."

October 6, 2009 at 12:11 a.m.

@Lightnup: Please, with the email forwards. Liberals are all just like that email. And Obama is Muslim. And Microsoft is giving away free passes to Disney World. You are painting your view of the world with a broad brush. Apparently you've come here not to exchange ideas, but to perpetuate stereotypes of both sides of this argument. Enjoy that.

@bigDaddy: I will refer you to my last post, which called out liberal pundits as well.

Also, I feel that the money spent on Ms. Coulter's lecture was not wisely spent, regardless of its impact on my tuition. It would have been no wiser to spend the money on Michael Moore or Bill Maher.

I suspect, and acknowledge that I have no proof other than personal observation, that a significant portion of tickets were set aside for people other than UTC faculty, staff, or students. The Probasco Chair called for emails well over a month ago for those who planned to attend. Then on Friday, they asked for another email in order to issue tickets for the lecture on Monday. I responded to both of those emails. This event has been in the works since last spring.

This has been touted as an opportunity for students to learn and to open dialogue by bringing controversial speakers to the University. That the Probasco Chair thought it beneficial to spend $25,000 to show Ms. Coulter on television shows a lack of responsibility and contradicts their mission of providing an educational experience for students of the University.

October 6, 2009 at 3:51 a.m.

The usual lies and delusional thinking abound here. I reserved a ticket too and received an email apologizing that no more were available. ALL the info necessary was posted on both Ann Coulter's and the UTC's websites. There was overflow seating for non-ticket holders in the auditorium and another hall. Everything was free.

Don't twist my words Leftie. I didn't say huge numbers of police showed up. The building had security all around it though. I said the protesters were mad...which they most assuredly were (all three of them) to come out with their pathetic signs. Many students got up and left during Ann's talk so the comment about unequal representation is blatantly false. Most of you lefties only showed up anyway to gain more fodder against conservatives and Ann than to really listen. You don't need to twist her statements and take her words out of context. You weren't really listening and getting the irony obviously.

She backed up every statement with FACTS and STATS, unlike most Liberal speakers I've heard speak. Many of us do check for ourselves and believe you are the ones who don't vet your guys-like the one in the WH and his 'Czars'. Ann practically begged the students to ask questions. As usual the majority didn't have the guts to ask anything, one just sat and stewed next to me the whole time.

I sat politely and listened to the Liberal professor make her digs at Ann's remarks (smiling the whole time of course-very nice lady that one) and make stupid references about Radio personalities, talk shows, cable news, etc. etc. This drivel was the standard schlock from the WH/ACORN manual on how to intimidate conservatives, but hey we were all polite and listened to her statements that were never backed by any proof whatsoever. She ended by stating we should all take her course if we want to learn how to debate properly (this after saying she could never debate with Ann Coulter). Typical Liberal Logic. We all need a laugh sometimes and Ann sure was funny. The only one pausing and waiting for even one laugh was your esteemed Prof. She came up dry.

If you hate conservatives so much (as these posts prove), don't go to their venues. If you need to vent your hostility, the university has Mental Health staff, don't they? Yes, we did go to different speeches. There is a Great Divide unfortunately. Some of us choose to live in Reality, undrugged and free to form our own opinions. We really don't need Presidents, the HuffPost, Michael Moore, Saul Alinsky, conservative radio or cable or even Ann Coulter to tell us what is true. We already know. When you all grow up, you may be eating your hats and knowing too.

October 6, 2009 at 6:06 a.m.

@canaryinthecoalmine: I refer you to my response on the other topic.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2009/oct/06/coulter-stirs-debate-at-utc/#15691

October 6, 2009 at 11:24 a.m.
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