published Sunday, August 15th, 2010

Prosperity

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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hambone said...

Trickle down Economy?

August 15, 2010 at 12:54 a.m.
nucanuck said...

Unfettered capitalism agregates great wealth in the hands of the few,much like the fuedalism that preceeded it. About 2% of the US live like nobility while the American middle class is being decimated. Chicago School economic theory has been,and still is being followed.

Rs and Ds alike believe debt doesn't matter,but there is a palpable apprehension in the land that the system is broken and that more debt is not the road to prosperity.

When will the government know what the people already sense?

Prosperity for the few is not prosperity.

August 15, 2010 at 1:05 a.m.
Clara said...

Clay, Hambone,Nucanuck,

Very good sendoff!

August 15, 2010 at 4:59 a.m.
alprova said...

I'm smiling in amusement, as early this morning, I finally took the time to watch Michael Moore's, "Capitalism: A Love Story." I then go to the computer and of course go straight to this page to see what the subject of today's cartoon is.

What a coincidence.

No matter how you look at it, half of this nation currently is on board with the political party that consistently works on behalf of the 1% of those who have siphoned off a great deal of the net wealth of 95% of the citizens in this nation.

And to be fair, the Democrats have many within their ranks who have been tainted as well, who also have their hands in the pockets of the wealthy that are determined to keep amassing wealth at the expense of others.

Rather than for me to attempt to launch into a tirade, I would rather urge people to take the time to read an interesting two page article that may make some people take pause and to consider the implications of allowing the Republicans to regain power in this nation.

The GOP has already destroyed this nation. Handing them the keys again to the golden crappers would only allow them to dance on the ashes.

No article ever written does a better job of echoing so many of the sentiments that I have adopted and dispensed for years.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reagan-insider-gop-destroyed-us-economy-2010-08-10

August 15, 2010 at 7:49 a.m.
casey9490 said...

Hey! That's not cool! Why'd you make the rich people white?

Oh. Right.

August 15, 2010 at 7:49 a.m.
captainrt said...

A government of the money, by the money, for the money.

August 15, 2010 at 8:01 a.m.
LZSally said...

Our middle class is shrinking. That means our economic system is failing.

August 15, 2010 at 9:30 a.m.
Clara said...

Good article, Alprova.

OK Reps, refute the statements made in Alprova's link.

Your independent Independent, Clara

August 15, 2010 at 10:09 a.m.
hotdiggity said...

Nothing could be more telling as to which party supports the interests of big business and the rich at the expense of average Americans than the vote on financial reform.

Even after all the evidence of greed and ineptness by the financial institutions the financial reform bill barely passed the Senate, with almost all Republicans voting against the measure.

In addition the right wants to extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich which created no jobs and exploded our deficit.

Does anyone seriously believe the Republicans care about anyone besides big business and the rich? Seriously.

August 15, 2010 at 10:34 a.m.
Salsa said...

Go look at a list of the wealthiest members of Congress. Notice how many at the very top have a "D" after their name. The difference is that the democrats pretend to support the "little people" while stuffing their pockets with money from the very same big businesses and interests that support the republicans. Guess who got more of BP's money than anyone else in the last election? Yup. Our president.

August 15, 2010 at 10:53 a.m.
anniebelle said...

Being an independent voter, I find it disturbing that both sides of the aisle have fallen into gluttonous, greedy people that have nothing to do with what is best for the citizenry. Having said that, you can find a few D's that have fallen into this hole, but you can count on every one dragging an R behind their name, being against all things to help anyone but the wealthiest 1% of our population.

August 15, 2010 at 11:07 a.m.
OllieH said...

I first looked at this cartoon and thought it was good... VERY good. It's a great statement on the general disparity in the 'prosperity' generated from our current 'economic recovery'.

When I looked at the cartoon closer, however, I thought it was brilliant! Studying the drawing, I realized that this image above is a perfect reflection of the disparity of wealth that has persisted for years in this country.

Alprova quoted some of the numbers above, but think about this: Although there is some fluctuation in the data over the years, studies on the concentration of personal wealth in the U.S. has always hovered around the same general percentages. That is, that 20% of the American population controls roughly 80% of the our nation's personal wealth, while the other 80% of the population shares the remaining 20%.

You can break down the figures in many different ways, like the richest 5% of Americans controlling half the national wealth, or the poorest 50% of our people controlling a paltry 2.5% of the economic pie, but this cartoon reminded me specifically of the 80/20 split.

In this cartoon, the word 'prosperity' has ten letters. Eight of those ten letters are held by two men. The two remaining letters in the word 'prosperity' are being held by, you guessed it, eight people. So there it is, the 80/20 split in wealth. Twenty percent of the people in the above cartoon control 80% of 'prosperity', while 80% of the people pictured possess the remaining 20%.

Now, I don't know if this was Clay's intention, but the statistical breakdown just seems too exacting to be mere coincidence. Therefore, I'm assuming that it was his intent and a methodical effort to communicate on many different levels.

And if that's the case, then Clay Bennett is even a better cartoonist than most of us ever realized.

August 15, 2010 at 11:31 a.m.
Duford said...

Alprova, great article. Thanks for sharing.

The fact is we need a total retrenchment in ALL spending -- including welfare AND warfare.

And neither political party (and frankly, most of the American people) are up to the task.

And for those of you who blame so-called "Capitalism" for our economic woes, I encourage you to start and run your own business, and see how much government is involved in your everyday actions.

And Michael Moore's movie should have been called "CORPORATISM: A Love Story". There is a huge difference...

August 15, 2010 at 11:32 a.m.
moonpie said...

Thanks alprova for the interesting read.

I also went back and looked at Stockman's original editorial.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/01/opinion/01stockman.html

I'm not for laying blame here. I think both Democrats and Republicans drink from the fount of reckless spending.

The main difference is that Democrats are Tax and Spend. The Republicans are Cut Taxes and Spend.

It's strange to see how far Republicans have come from fiscal responsibility. Of course they don't want any more government programs or universal healthcare... these things threatened one of the few weapons in their arsenal... tax cuts.

In fairness to many of the people who post regularly on this site, I think they fully understand and agree that we need to balance our budget. They may like and admire Cheney, but I think most disagree with them that "deficits don't matter."

In the end, I think this editorial is not vindication of Democrat principles. I think it is a self examination of how certain Republican princicples are exacerbating the problems.

August 15, 2010 at 11:54 a.m.
hambone said...

I'm just a simple old retired working man, but I am proud of my life. i am not as good with words as most that post here. But how anyone can look back at the past 30 years and think that "trikle down ecomomics" ever was a good idea must be in that top 2% of tax payers. They say that Obama wants to reditribute the wealth, I would just like to see it go back to where it was BRR (before Ronald Reagan)

August 15, 2010 at 1:14 p.m.
alprova said...

Salsa wrote: "Go look at a list of the wealthiest members of Congress. Notice how many at the very top have a "D" after their name."


While often cited and while there may be a modicum of truth to such statistics, there is really no point being offered when the personal wealth of a politician is mentioned.

Ted Kennedy was probably one of the richest Democrats who ever served as a Senator, but there was never any doubt to the fact that he worked on behalf of the middle and lower classes of people.


"The difference is that the democrats pretend to support the "little people" while stuffing their pockets with money from the very same big businesses and interests that support the republicans."


I think it's rather clear that the Democrats are most definitely working on behalf of the 'little people.'

It's equally clear, especially given their voting records over the past two years and the legislation introduced in the same period, that the all but a very few Republicans have no interest in serving anyone but those who are those within that elite 1% class of people.


"Guess who got more of BP's money than anyone else in the last election? Yup. Our president."


I find it rather amusing whenever people make that claim. They never seem to point out the fact regarding the nearly eighty thousand dollars that was contributed to his campaign, a drop in the bucket no less, in that it did not come from BP, the Corporation that is based outside of this country. It came from INDIVIDUALS who WORKED for BP, who are additionally...Americans.

August 15, 2010 at 1:28 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Granted, both parties share a portion of the blame for this financial debacle. The difference is when the time came to try to reform this mess only one side made an attempt to enact some type of meaningful change.

The Republicans were bereft of any ideas other than to attempt to water down the legislation to protect the well heeled.

Observe Mr. Corker, who fought to keep the consumer protection side of the financial reform from being a stand-alone agency. Or how he negotiated to protect payday lenders such as Check Into Cash, which charges 400% on an annualized basis to low income consumers. The company, based in Cleveland, Tn has made many contributions to Mr. Corker.

Oh, and did I mention he voted against reforming the financial industry?

Watch him howl if the Prez appoints Elizabeth Warren to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Mr. Corker, alongside his Republican counterparts, has no interest in protecting the average American consumer. Is that not obvious?

Put Elizabeth Warren in the new agency and Paul Krugman as Tresury Secretary and you might see some meaningful change to benefit average Americans.

August 15, 2010 at 1:34 p.m.
ITguy said...

Reagan sold us on the idea that he could lead us to the mountain top, and it was an easy down hill stroll. We have NEVER had tax cuts with corresponding spending cuts! It is deficit spending that stimulates economic growth. Bush senior realized that debt was out of control and was crucified for going back on his promise of no new taxes. Clinton put us back on track, and rather than pay down debt, the Republicans screamed that any surplus should be returned to the taxpayers.

Capitalism is not a bad thing. It is unbridled greed that destroys. If the we continue to shrink the middle class, we will kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

August 15, 2010 at 1:35 p.m.
harrystatel said...

So, once again the dogmatics of both parties engage in the great pissing contest and both are all wet.

As long as each party blames the other, the powercrats win and you lose.

This is why I am a libertarian.

“Libertarianism is a philosophy. The basic premise of libertarianism is that each individual should be free to do as he or she pleases so long as he or she does not harm others. In the libertarian view, societies and governments infringe on individual liberties whenever they tax wealth, create penalties for victimless crimes, or otherwise attempt to control or regulate individual conduct which harms or benefits no one except the individual who engages in it.” – definition written by the U.S. Internal Revenue Service

Hard to believe this was written by the powercrats in Washington. Somehow it slipped throught the government censors.

Harry Statel

harrystatel.wordpress.com

August 15, 2010 at 2:02 p.m.
Sailorman said...

Elizabeth Warren would be a fine choice.

Paul Krugman? Not so much

Paul Krugman Gives Up

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/paul_krugman_gives_up_1.html

August 15, 2010 at 2:02 p.m.
alprova said...

ITguy wrote: "Capitalism is not a bad thing. It is unbridled greed that destroys. If the we continue to shrink the middle class, we will kill the goose that lays the golden eggs."


Truer words have never been typewritten into this forum.

August 15, 2010 at 2:08 p.m.
ITguy said...

Harry,

I would be a libertarian if the party were not so full of crack pots. I believe that government has a legitimate role. We need strong public schools. We need good roads and infrastructure. And we need to regulate the greedy bastards who would steal bread from your grandmother (think credit card companies).

August 15, 2010 at 2:38 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

"Guess who got more of BP's money than anyone else in the last election? Yup. Our president."

alprova did a good job of blowing this argument out of the water, so to speak.

IF the insinuation was that Obama received barrels of BP campaign cash AND passed the cleanup cost on to the American taxpayers, THEN Salsa may have had a point.

Instead, it was just another republican nothing-to-do-with-what-we're-talking-about- drive-by distraction.

We need to stay focused, and hats off to Mr. Bennett.

August 15, 2010 at 2:39 p.m.
SCOTTYM said...

moonpie,

When I read the article linked to by Al (and you) I got the distinct impression that the major failures of the Republican party being observed were that they did not stand firm on the idea of major spending reductions.

Of course this is an idea that I agree with, and hammer on at every chance.

I'm not one of those in the top 5% of earners, but I'm also not ignorant enough to believe that the tax cuts pushed by the right over the last 35 years only benefit those top earners. Those "tax cuts for the rich" cut my personal tax burden significantly. I like that because it is, after all, MY money that I spend time earning when I'd rather be doing other things.

I absolutely believe that the problem with our governmental budgets, at all levels, is one of spending too much. Taking more from the pockets of the citizens, no matter their level of wealth, is not the answer. Those monies do not belong to the government. Understand that I do believe that we should all contribute an equitable, nominal amount as needed for the essential functions of government, as this is the basis for civilization, however we should not be bleed dry to such an extent that we end up as semi-slaves to the government. The fact that some who are totally capable of productive work contribute nothing, while being given monies confiscated from those who are productive is a serious impediment to a meeting of the minds on these issues.

Cont. below

August 15, 2010 at 2:49 p.m.
SCOTTYM said...

Cont. from above

I clearly remember the Reagan days. The implicit, if not explicit, idea was to starve the beast. That is by reducing the percentage of GDP confiscated by the government, the big spenders of the left would eventually come to their senses and participate in getting the ballooning budget under control. Unfortunately what actually happened, from my understanding, is that a large portion of those on the right ended up being big spenders themselves.

It is a historical fact that lowering taxes increases total revenue. Those on the left will argue that it decreases the percentage of GDP taken by the government, and they'll be correct, but they'll leave out that the reason for this is that those tax cuts lead to an expansion of GDP so that the larger total revenue looks smaller as a percentage of GDP. It's mere chartsmanship, and does not refute the underlying facts.

It is also a fact that raising taxes (or letting previous tax cuts expire, same thing) during a recession is an utterly stupid thing to do. Want more unemployment? Raise taxes. Want the governments total revenues to shrink? Raise taxes. The only economists who will support the idea of raising taxes during a recession are those who are predisposed to statist failure models which ignore history and rely upon ideas which have failed when tried previously. It is a fools game, yet many folks are on board so long as they are told that only the "rich" will carry the burden.

Cut the give-aways, cut the size of government, cut the government support for all of those things which are not specifically enumerated in the Constitution and then if they still need more money, I'll be happy to entertain the thought of contributing more. Till then, I am not amused by the idea of having more of my money taken and wasted on pet projects and deadbeats.

August 15, 2010 at 2:50 p.m.
SCOTTYM said...

Sailorman,

Krugman, LOL.

I find it funny that his analysis is heavily dependent upon which party occupies the W.H.

Flip-Flopper extraordinaire.

He's a hack with credentials but no brains.

August 15, 2010 at 2:54 p.m.
harrystatel said...

Reading between the lines with ITguy.

I would be a libertarian if the party were not so full of crack pots (yes, working for individual liberty is a crack-pot idea).

I believe that government has a legitimate role (it does, to provide protection to its citizens, not to bail them out for poor choices freely made).

We need strong public schools(Public schools,now there's a real success story. Too often,public schools are junior detention camps thanks to national control by the NEA and Washington government fiat).

We need good roads and infrastructure (Another success story. Five men, one pothole, and everyone forgot the shovels).

And we need to regulate the greedy bastards who would steal bread from your grandmother (think credit card companies). (Maybe Granny shouldn't have spent what she didn't have, as she wasted her assets (if she worked) on everything she wanted in her life. I don't believe Granny had a gun to her head with she bought Sham-Wows, Nut Choppers, Cigarettes, beer, meth, and a big black SUV.)

harrystatel.wordpress.com

August 15, 2010 at 3:06 p.m.

When I view this carton, I see the Big Government career politician holding the first few letters, followed by newly elected career politician holding the next few letters, followed by the serfs who continue to re-elect them. It's the classic Democrat party life-cycle.

Otherwise, most hard-working folks would be making their way working through the illogical rules and reforms wrought by Big Government yet still making it to some form of prosperity. You know, the silly ol' American dream thingy.

August 15, 2010 at 5:01 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

Funny, when I saw this cartoon I immediately thought of Dick Cheney and Georgie Bush.

The GOP - better known as the Republic Party - believes everyone should have three jobs paying $7 an hour each instead of one job that pays $21 an hour.

What ever happened to getting ahead by working hard and playing by the rules?

For about 98% of us, the last wisp of the American dream is a winning Lottery ticket.

August 15, 2010 at 5:43 p.m.
una61 said...

I assume that Oprah, LeBron, Tiger, and A-Rod are part of the crowd on the right. I am thankful that I live in a Capitalist society in which I feel that I am free to choose my future and people are unequally rich (see above), rather than a Marxist/Socialist society, i.e., Cuba, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Venezuela, and Laos in which freedom of choice is limited or non-existent and people are equally poor.

August 15, 2010 at 5:45 p.m.
mmlj said...

I think that it's ridiculous that Bill Gates makes more money than I. I could be just as successful if I had the right connections. I definitely should receive some of his wealth.

And LeBron James. He simply had more scouts at his high school basketball games than I had. If they had seen my skills--Nerf or otherwise--I too would have been able to sell out Miami's home basketball games. I should also be receiving part of his compensation.

August 15, 2010 at 6:24 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

"I am thankful that I live in a Capitalist society in which I feel that I am free to choose my future and people are unequally rich," writes una61.

What do you think American will look like if the rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer?

How can a young couple raise a family if good paying jobs keep going overseas and the only work left pays minimum wage?

On the bright side, thanks to the Bush economy, over a million undocumented workers have returned to Mexico because they can find better jobs down there.

With the Republic Party dedicated to dismantling the Constitution one Amendment at a time and believing no millionaire should be left behind, why do blue collar folks vote GOP?

August 15, 2010 at 7:38 p.m.
ITguy said...

Harry,

The fact that our public school system has failed, is no reason to abandon it. It is in the interest of society to have a well educated populous.

In a perfect world all citizens would repair the roads in front of their property. We don't live in that world.

We do live in community, and as a member of a community you have obligations as well as rights. Perfect liberty is very close to anarchy. Without regulation, the strong devour the weak.

August 15, 2010 at 8:19 p.m.
SCOTTYM said...

btg,

What he said.


una61,

Yup. You forgot that great bastion of socialist experiment, the USSR.

Also, the people, as in those who are not government functionaries and/or politically connected to the ruling class, ARE equally poor. They also have/had a much lower standard of living than the average "poor" person here in the U.S., not to mention the lack of freedom to chase one's own dreams where ever they may lead. The connected folks in the mentioned countries live a life of luxury comparable to the heads of industry, movie stars and sports stars here in the U.S.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just adding more info.


mmlj 6:24 p.m.

I love seeing faulty logic pushed to it's absurd conclusion.

Give us some more.

August 15, 2010 at 9:34 p.m.
woody said...

As Clarence (the angel) wrote to George, "No man can be a failure if he has friends."

That was followed up by Harry (George's younger, and recently more famous brother), "Here's to my brother George, the richest man in town."

I guess it all depends upon how one defines "Prosperity", doesn't it??

Got a few friends myself, Woody

August 16, 2010 at 8:26 a.m.

Complainers = Democrats Do'ers = everyone else

I see the complainers are still blaming Bush and Chaney and even Reagan.

August 16, 2010 at 9:06 a.m.
harrystatel said...

"I guess it all depends upon how one defines "Prosperity", doesn't it?"

Woody, you are absolutely correct. Prosperity doesn't require monetary riches. It is the richness of life available to all, regardless of bank accounts.

In the Gospel of Thomas, an early Gnostic text (but not included by the Council of Nicea as it disputed the domination of the Church), Jesus is talking with his followers.

His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"

Jesus said, "It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'Here it is' or 'There it is.' Rather, the kingdom of the Father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it."

Prosperity is in the person. The kingdom is already here.

Harry Statel harrystatel.wordpress.com

August 16, 2010 at 9:20 a.m.
moonpie said...

bookie,

Have you never met a Republican?

They complain all the time!

They're good people. But they're certainly not all doers, either.

August 16, 2010 at 12:47 p.m.
Clara said...

I know I'm prosperous! And...

I don't want to get rid of the government, I just want to clean it up, like my messy house!

August 16, 2010 at 12:50 p.m.
Clara said...

From:

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/07/military_VA_accountingproblems_072 810w/

Lawmakers: VA accounting system deserves an F

By Rick Maze - Staff writer Posted : Wednesday Jul 28, 2010 14:05:32 EDT

Incredulous lawmakers sat steaming as government auditors gave the Veterans Affairs Department a "B" grade on efforts to correct an accounting system that has almost twice as many unexplained charges today as it did two years ago.

"I would not underestimate the anger my colleagues on both sides feel. I would not underestimate the sense we are really mad," said Rep. Bob Filner, D-Calif., chairman of the House Veterans' Affairs Committee, who said he would have given VA an "F."

The problem involves something called "miscellaneous obligations" -purchases made outside of the normal contracting system, usually for items that are needed quickly, such as medical supplies, but sometimes also for bigger items such as vehicles and furniture.

In 2008, the Government Accountability Office, the auditing and investigative arm of Congress, found $6.9 billion in these miscellaneous charges, many with inadequate or nonexistent documentation to explain the bill.

A new review found $12 billion in miscellaneous charges, and many of the same problems with a lack of justification.

"Although VA developed new policies and procedures in response to our recommendations, recent internal VA inspections indicate that deficiencies we identified have not yet been corrected," said Susan Ragland of GAO, testifying Wednesday before the House Veterans Affairs Committee.

"That is not very optimistic to me," said Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla. "These reports, to me, indicate we could be back in another couple of years with a $25 billion problem."

Even so, Ragland said she would give the VA a "B" because "I feel they are making an effort" even if they "are not there yet."

VA officials acknowledged the continuing problems but said progress has been made. In 2008, 48 percent of miscellaneous obligation charges included no name for the vendor; 19 percent did not explain the purpose of the charge; and 71 percent of the time, the person who ordered the item also was involved in approving the charge - an improper separation of duties, said Edward Murray, VA's deputy assistant secretary for finance.

Continued
August 16, 2010 at 1 p.m.
Clara said...

This has dropped to about 13 percent of files having no vendor, 3 percent having an incomplete purpose and 29 percent having inadequate separation of duties, Murray said.

On closer review, "most" of the charges are legitimate, Murray said. "They are usually for a specific purpose and apply to a specific vendor. They are not arbitrary obligations being created," he said.

That is not good enough for lawmakers. Rep. Steve Buyer of Indiana, the committee's ranking Republican, called the procedures "unacceptable."

"They don't know where the money is going," Buyer said. "If a chief financial officer in the private sector did not use a system to track where the money is going, they wouldn't be the chief financial officer for very long."

Murray said VA knows faster progress is needed, and is now taking interim steps to improve oversight of expenses, such as requiring quarterly certifications from facility directors to ensure rules are being followed.

August 16, 2010 at 1:02 p.m.
anniebelle said...

Yes, bookie, it's 60 years since WWII and we're still blaming Hitler. That's the way history works -- imagine that.

August 16, 2010 at 1:32 p.m.
FM_33 said...

Obama has got NY hot about that mosque that they about to build up and everybody here is talking about Clay's gig.

Does anybody have an opinion about that story or does anybody care ?

DEWEY WHERE ARE YOU THE MIGHTY SOUTHERN DEMOCRATC OF THE FREE PRESS !

August 16, 2010 at 2:43 p.m.
FM_33 said...

DEWEY......DEWEY....DEWEY !

August 16, 2010 at 2:44 p.m.
FM_33 said...

I know I'm prosperous! And...

I don't want to get rid of the government, I just want to clean it up, like my messy house! Username: Clara | On: August 16, 2010 at 12:50 p.m.


Well honey you better have a lot of trash bags on hand to dump all that trash in in that messy house !

August 16, 2010 at 2:46 p.m.
FM_33 said...

Yes, bookie, it's 60 years since WWII and we're still blaming Hitler. That's the way history works -- imagine that. Username: anniebelle | On: August 16, 2010 at 1:32 p.m.


The reason why that still tripp off of Hiter is because he was a Satanist on the occult wizard on the tip with out a lizard.

August 16, 2010 at 2:49 p.m.
FM_33 said...

The reason why that still tripp off of Hiter is because he was a Satanist on the occult wizard tip with out a lizard.

August 16, 2010 at 2:50 p.m.
eeeeeek said...

Sooooooo... Hitler was a Satanist now... That explains why he was such good pals with the catholic church.

August 16, 2010 at 3:25 p.m.
cicerone said...

Is that supposed to be Al Gore and George Soros on the left and the rest of us on the right?

August 16, 2010 at 3:49 p.m.
acerigger said...

Obama has got NY hot about that mosque that they about to build up and everybody here is talking about Clay's gig.

Does anybody have an opinion about that story or does anybody care ?

DEWEY WHERE ARE YOU THE MIGHTY SOUTHERN DEMOCRATC OF THE FREE PRESS ! Username: FM_33 | On: August 16, 2010 at 2:43 p.m Clay had a cartoon about "tolerance" a while back,maybe you should take your mosque comments over there.

August 16, 2010 at 5:03 p.m.
FM_33 said...

Will Obama bring us prosperity or will he bring us a depression that is far worst then 1920's ?

August 16, 2010 at 5:18 p.m.
FM_33 said...

Username: acerigger | On: August 16, 2010 at 5:03 p.m.


It was a test to see if Dewey would pop up and talk about yesterday and how he felt about it.

August 16, 2010 at 5:19 p.m.
FM_33 said...

I know I'm prosperous! And...

I don't want to get rid of the government, I just want to clean it up, like my messy house! Username: Clara | On: August 16, 2010 at 12:50 p.m.


Clara if you read that first comment i meant the White House and not yours ok.

August 16, 2010 at 5:21 p.m.
FM_33 said...

Sooooooo... Hitler was a Satanist now... That explains why he was such good pals with the catholic church. Username: eeeeeek | On: August 16, 2010 at 3:25 p.m.


The means jusify the ends it was trying to get the art and other goods that Hitler seen as a personal value.

August 16, 2010 at 5:25 p.m.
FM_33 said...

Complainers = Democrats Do'ers = everyone else

I see the complainers are still blaming Bush and Chaney and even Reagan. Username: bookieturnersghost | On: August 16, 2010 at 9:06 a.m.


The easy way out for the Obama administration as he proves that he was not ready to do the job in the first place because his lack of a record not his skin color like the Democrats then to bring up when nothing else works.

August 16, 2010 at 5:29 p.m.
Clara said...

FM, Am I wrong? Isn't the White House, the American people's house, Not Obama's?

August 16, 2010 at 8:24 p.m.
Musicman375 said...

I don't know, Clara. It seems like it's the president's house to me. Can you stroll up into the kitchen and make yourself a sandwich there whenever you wish? I think you might set off a few alarms.

August 16, 2010 at 10:31 p.m.
Clara said...

Well, considering some of the weirds who have posted on this blog, I would deem it necessary to put up a barrier.

I wonder if I'd be cleared.

Perhaps we should charge all the presidents rent on this edifice. I wonder how much it would be worth. The presidents could pay to lease it and the treasury would turn the money back to the people. C:) HAH, fat chance.

I'm thinking of all the other perks the presidents and congress have cost us.

August 17, 2010 at 9:29 a.m.
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