published Wednesday, August 18th, 2010

Letters to the editor

Recall efforts bad for job recruitment

I didn’t vote for Mayor Ron Littlefield and don’t agree with him on a number of issues. However, this recall effort, if successful, will not be in the best interest of our city.

I know that when prospective employers are making their selections on where to locate with their new jobs, they place considerable importance on stable political environments. They don’t like uncertainty.

Our city is always in fierce competition for the recruitment of jobs with many other cites throughout the country. Any potential major employer needs to know that the elected officials they are to deal with are not subject to continual recall threats not only on the mayor but the councilpersons as well.

They understand an orderly election process that occurs in a regular election cycle, but the continual threats of recalls create too much uncertainly and turmoil for large business investors. As my dad always told me, “Don’t cut your nose off to spite your face.”


Listeners will miss WDYN shows, staff

It’s very sad to hear that WDYN is being sold. Listeners in the Chattanooga area are going to miss it tremendously. It’s the only FM Southern Gospel music station here. I keep my dial on WDYN all the time.

Dr. Danny Lovett has said Tennessee Temple “is in the academic business, not the radio business” and also “WDYN is one or our best assets.” This station hasn’t been a liability because through the share-a-thons, they have supported themselves. Many listeners have contributed either with one-time giving or every month support through the years.

It’s very disappointing to have this “snatched” from us. I’ll miss Sonrise with Tom and Bob, Prayer Time, Gospel Dynamite with Dr. Bouler and Hey Earl.

WDYN is local and personal. It seems very cold for the Bible Broadcasting Network not to be required to staff the station with any local people saying that would be a “heavy burden.”

Tom, Earl, Bob, and the staff behind the scenes, the “Heavy Burden” will be missed by everyone who has shared the ministry since Dr. Lee Roberson founded WDYN.

I know there are other Christian radio stations in Chattanooga but none match the programming WDYN provides. It’s always been my first choice.


Obama shows his insensitivity

President Obama has announced he supports the building of the Islamic Mosque mere blocks from the site of the 9/11 attacks in New York. By doing, this he displays his insensitivity to the victims and their survivors.

Naming it the “Cordoba House” reflects a 10th century victory of conquest of infidels by Muslims. So if this building is supposed to improve relations between Muslims and non-Muslims, why a name that infers “conquest” and why near a place where extremist Muslims attacked our country?

The reason is it is not a place of worship or relationship building but a shrine to a Muslim victory over so-called infidels. The fact that Obama supports this shows where his heart really is. I would also like to see a Clay Bennett cartoon lampooning this intolerance of the victims of this violence.



Here’s a recipe for a perfect politician

How do you get the perfect politician?

You take a lawyer who’s loaded, add the “Barack the Magic Negro” consultant, and be sure to include a heavy dose of a preacher-turned-politician-turned-TV host. There you go! We get Chuck Fleischmann and his campaign.

An embarrassing time to live in the 3rd District.

Zach, can you please wake us up from this dream?!



Sale Creek, Tenn.

Improve research in ‘green’ techology

Concerning the “Blueberry farm goes green” article (Aug. 14). I am no electrical engineer, but 4,000 watts for one year is 35,000 kilowatt hours of electricity. The residential cost of electricity is approximately 9 cents per kwh, creating an estimated electricity value of $3,200 (and this with full sun 24/7!). At this rate it would take 10 years to pay off the cost of the solar grid that was installed.

Now, with government largesse from USDA (why?), federal and state tax credits and TVA purchasing electricity at 22 cents and selling it at 9 cents, it magically becomes profitable after two and a half years.

I may be very wrong but it appears like this is a perfect example of government waste. Better that money be spent on research of “green” tech that is cost effective and efficient. I would like someone from TVA to write in and explain this further.


Tire debris likely not from retreads

I appreciated your front page article (Aug. 15) as I too have traveled the Georgia roads and was surprised at all of the roadside debris. However, in defense of the retreading industry, I must comment on the implication that retreads are one of the major contributors.

A retread is made by buffing the old tread off of the tire’s carcass and then a new tread is bonded and cured onto this reused and inspected perfectly good casing. The way that you can confirm if the road litter is new or retreaded is by looking for steel cord extruding from the tread. Case in point, your front page picture clearly shows the wires protruding from the tread edge (if this were a retread, all that you would see is smooth rubber).

The tire depicted most likely failed due to a road hazard, or heat or underinflation. Check it out the next time you’re on the highway: 99 percent of the treads that you see will have the wires (known as steel belts or tread plies) attached to the tread.

So please do not see this as criticism of your article, just educational information based on my 30-some years experience in the tire industry.



Anger at officials is not misguided

Regarding the letter (Aug.13) titled “Misguided anger guides recall effort.”

While I’m sure the mayor is a “good, honest and caring man,” the fact is he wants to build a personal legacy in his last term on the backs of all of us who will bear the exorbitant tax and fee increases for years into the future. The “misguided anger” at city officials is anything but misguided. Indeed, it is the right and moral obligation of all voters to hold their elected officials accountable to the electorate. For those of us who vehemently oppose their actions, recall procedures are in place to re-enforce the will of the people.

Please join The Chattanooga Tea Party and and do everything possible to recall the mayor and then elect the person to restore this city back to the people who live and work here.



Patriots don’t have to be in military

This is in reference to the gentleman in a letter saying you weren’t a patriot if you were not in the military. According to the dictionary, which he should consult next time, a patriot is “One who loves, supports and defends their country.” I do love and support my country and I was not in the military. And I know many more of the same. The next time he spouts off that “only the military can be patriots,” I hope he remembers this.

And, if I remember correctly, when Bush and Cheney were in office, we weren’t trillions and trillions of dollars in debt and every time someone wanted money, sending it to them! And, I believe the “right-wingers” are helping by voicing their opinions and trying to bring about “change”!


East Ridge

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crtsports said...


There is already a mosque four blocks from there. Why are you not asking for that one to be moved? As our President, I am glad that he said what he did. As a country that supports all religions, we have to be tolerant of others.

Extremist Muslims are no different than extremest Christians who kill abortion doctors. It just takes a few bad apples to ruin it all. While I agree it might be the smartest place to put one, it is their right and I fully support their plans to put a mosque there!

August 18, 2010 at 12:29 a.m.
crtsports said...

The Keck Family,

I for one can not believe the Times published what you wrote about the President but are you really that ignorant and racist?

August 18, 2010 at 12:31 a.m.
HiDef said...

Well crtsports, the Keck's are from "Sale Creek"...

August 18, 2010 at 1:25 a.m.
alprova said...

Ms. Smith, as a patriot, you really should be aware of the simple fact that the United States has had trillions of dollars of debt on the books since 1944.

When Ronald Reagan took office, the gross national debt doubled from $2 trillion to $4 trillion dollars. Under George Bush Sr., the gross debt increased another another $1.5 trillion to $5.5 trillion dollars.

During the Clinton years, the debt topped out at $6.5 trillion and when he left office, the debt had actually started to fall, due to a balanced SPENDING budget, resulting in no need to borrow money to cover checks written by the Government. When Bill Clinton left office, this nation was humming along heartily. Anyone who wanted a job could easily find one.

Now, contrary to your understanding of the situation, when Bush/Cheney entered the White House, the sharpest increase in the gross national debt began it's flight northward. The Bush Administration added another whopping $3.5 trillion dollars to the gross national debt, bringing it to just short of $10 trillion dollars by the time President Obama took office.

While it may be true that since President Obama has been in office, the debt is still increasing, and has increased another $2.75 trillion dollars, the fact of the matter is that our current President inherited this mess created by previous administrations, the economic climate that came with it, and that continues to cause the debt to rise.

Blaming Obama for the current debt and for the rise in unemployment, under any criteria, is disingenuous and horribly misleading, and it always has been.

I urge anyone who is interested in understanding the truth of the matter to look it up for themselves. The facts are easily found, and there is no secret to the fact that it would be totally irresponsible of the citizens of this country to allow the Republicans to retake control of this nation, to resume the plundering of it for the sake of a select few.

August 18, 2010 at 2:51 a.m.
acerigger said...

President Obama did not say he supported building a mosque "mere blocks from the site of the 9/11 attacks in New York." He said he supported the constitutional right of the developers to do so,after all,he is sworn to uphold the Constitution of The United States.

August 18, 2010 at 3:41 a.m.
Livn4life said...

Alprova, wow what a revelation Bush did it. "...the fact of the matter is that our current President inherited this mess created by previous admininistrations..." I guess previous Congresspersons had no part in approving the ridiculous spending which brought on the mess and economic climate our current President(poor guy)inherited. I guess the current all-knowing and all-wise Democrat led Congress has no part in the ongoing mess being magnified and blamed on previous administrations. My final question is simply this: when does this mess and its rapid snowballing decension become the making of the current Congress and current administration? We have leaders who do not know what they are doing in Washington. Their leadership on both sides of the aisle have brought us to where we are and continue to take us in a downward spiraling direction. Just to blame previous administrations is cowardly and shows an unwillingness to own your own mistakes, correct them and do what is really the right thing for our nation. That may not have occurred in previous administrations but certainly is not in the current administration. As for the Mosque deal, they may have the right Constitutionally but it shows their lack of respect and inconsideration for their fellow Americans to build it in definace of ones who lost friends and loved ones there. That disregard speaks volumes about who they really are.

August 18, 2010 at 6:48 a.m.
eeeeeek said...

To the Kecks,

Zach can't hear you... he's busy on his knees on C Street

August 18, 2010 at 7:12 a.m.
anniebelle said...

Scott Harrington, no, indeed, you are the one showing insensitivity and utter lack of knowledge about the Mosque. First it's not at the World Trade Center site, and it's a cultural center for our fellow citizens who happen to be Muslim. Why, after the OK City bombing, did you not call for all Roman Catholic churches to be dismantled -- after all, Timothy McVeigh was a devout Roman Catholic. And how about Bush waging war on a whole class of people in Iraq who never lifted a finger against U.S. citizens. I believe bush was one of your 'born agins' -- ah yes, he sure exhibits the fine Christian traits that you play-like Christians pretend to adhere to. And you go out and praise killers of doctors who are applying legal techniques, approved by our lawmakers. The wrong-wing supports war criminals such as Bush/Cheney, who absolutely trashed our constituion in their 8 year reign of terror.

August 18, 2010 at 7:39 a.m.
Musicman375 said...

Scott, I cannot understand where your thought process is starting on this. The president stepped in and ensured that the 1st amendment applies to all citizens. He did not comment on whether he thought the mosque should be there-- in fact, there is another video clip of him emphasizing the fact that he only addressed the constitutionality of the mosque, not whether he thinks its location is a wise dicision. He is keeping that thought to himself, but based on his body language during that particular line of questioning, he didn't appear to be too thrilled about it.

The president did his job and is being unjustly targeted because of it. There have been plenty of decisions Obama has made that I don't agree with, but there is no reason for this uproar. It seems to me that too many people only care about their own religious freedoms in this case.

August 18, 2010 at 8:47 a.m.
nucanuck said...

For those opposed to the NY mosque two blocks from ground zero,what would you consider the proper distance? Three blocks? Eight blocks? One mile? What makes any distance a proper distance?

I suspect that nothing but anti-islamic sentiment and seeking a political wedge are in play here.

August 18, 2010 at 12:22 p.m.
gm1220 said...

Here’s a recipe for a perfect politician. . . It's still better than Robin! My guess more church friends of Robin's or more sore losers!

August 18, 2010 at 12:42 p.m.

Note: A church building proposed to honor the Fallen Brave Souls of 9/11, much further away was turned down by the cowards at NYC council and mayors office. The actual site of the Towers is a gaping hole, a gravesite still. Obama is indeed complicit in all this as he has continually appeased the Islamic world and Muslims while trashing US citizens who disagree with his devious politics. In fact, the mullah Rauf who orchestrated the building of this "community center" mosque is being sent by the Obama henchmen and the State Dept to sell the Muslim world on this 'project', at taxpayers expense, and to raise the 100 million dollars needed. Imagine the outrage from the Left deviants if any church asked for and received tax dollars to petition the Vatican for 100 million to build a gaudy cathedral at Ground Zero or anywhere else for that matter?

When Islamic countries stop beheading Christians, Jews and others they name as Infidels, start allowing the building of churches and synagogues in their filthy lands, then maybe we'll talk. It's time to stop the infiltration and start facing the truth. They hate us and want to impose Sharia Law on us, including on homosexuals, whom they kill in their countries. A Mosque, as Wafar Sultan, a Muslim woman tortured in her country for speaking out, stated: is a monument to Victory and Conquest for the Muslim. It is ordered to be built like a Fortress, with turrets and edifices attached so the enemy can be routed and attacked, and eventually conquered from its walls. The call 5x daily, allah hu akhbar is a jihad cry-a call to war against the Infidels everywhere. The mosque IS conquest in the land it is built.

Newsflash, deviants and deviantes, Abortion doctors are terrorists too, except they murder the unborn humans inside the womb. No True Christian Believer would ever kill an Abortion doctor and the ones who have are definitely NOT Christian, despite the propaganda spewed above.

August 18, 2010 at 1:25 p.m.

Mischief in Manhattan "We Muslims know the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation" By Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah, August 17, 2010

"Last week, a journalist who writes for the North Country Times, a small newspaper in Southern California, sent us an e-mail titled "Help." He couldn't understand why an Islamic Centre in an area where Adam Gadahn, Osama bin Laden's American spokesman came from, and that was home to three of the 911 terrorists, was looking to expand.

The man has a very valid point, which leads to the ongoing debate about building a Mosque at Ground Zero in New York. When we try to understand the reasoning behind building a mosque at the epicentre of the worst-ever attack on the U.S., we wonder why its proponents don't build a monument to those who died in the attack?

New York currently boasts at least 30 mosques [more like 100+] so it's not as if there is pressing need to find space for worshippers. The fact we Muslims know the idea behind the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation to thumb our noses at the infidel. The proposal has been made in bad faith and in Islamic parlance, such an act is referred to as "Fitna," meaning "mischief-making" that is clearly forbidden in the Koran.

The Koran commands Muslims to, "Be considerate when you debate with the People of the Book" -- i.e., Jews and Christians [however, Mohammed expressly ordered his followers to kill Jews and all Infidels as he did on his frequent raids]. Building an exclusive place of worship for Muslims at the place where Muslims killed thousands of New Yorkers is not being considerate or sensitive, it is undoubtedly an act of "fitna"

So what gives Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf of the "Cordoba Initiative" and his cohorts the misplaced idea that they will increase tolerance for Muslims by brazenly displaying their own intolerance in this case?

Do they not understand that building a mosque at Ground Zero is equivalent to permitting a Serbian Orthodox church near the killing fields of Srebrenica where 8,000 Muslim men and boys were slaughtered?

August 18, 2010 at 1:27 p.m.

There are many questions that we would like to ask. Questions about where the funding is coming from? If this mosque is being funded by Saudi sources, then it is an even bigger slap in the face of Americans, as nine of the jihadis in the Twin Tower calamity were Saudis.

If Rauf is serious about building bridges, then he could have dedicated space in this so-called community centre to a church and synagogue, but he did not. We passed on this message to him through a mutual Saudi friend, but received no answer. He could have proposed a memorial to the 9/11 dead with a denouncement of the doctrine of armed jihad, but he chose not to.

It's a repugnant thought that $100 million would be brought into the United States rather than be directed at dying and needy Muslims in Darfur or Pakistan.

Let's not forget that a mosque is an exclusive place of worship for Muslims and not an inviting community centre. Most Americans are wary of mosques due to the hard core rhetoric that is used in pulpits. And rightly so. As Muslims we are dismayed that our co-religionists have such little consideration for their fellow citizens and wish to rub salt in their wounds and pretend they are applying a balm to sooth the pain.

The Koran implores Muslims to speak the truth, even if it hurts the one who utters the truth. Today we speak the truth, knowing very well Muslims have forgotten this crucial injunction from Allah.

If this mosque does get built, it will forever be a lightning rod for those who have little room for Muslims or Islam in the U.S. We simply cannot understand why on Earth the traditional leadership of America's Muslims would not realize their folly and back out in an act of goodwill.

As for those teary-eyed, bleeding-heart liberals such as New York mayor Michael Bloomberg and much of the media, who are blind to the Islamist agenda in North America, we understand their goodwill. Unfortunately for us, their stand is based on ignorance and guilt, and they will never in their lives have to face the tyranny of Islamism that targets, kills and maims Muslims worldwide, and is using liberalism itself to destroy liberal secular democratic societies from within".

Raheel Raza is author of Their Jihad ... Not my Jihad, and Tarek Fatah is author of The Jew is Not My Enemy (McClelland & Stewart), to be launched in October. Both sit on the board of the Muslim Canadian Congress.

August 18, 2010 at 1:28 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

More bird poop. Sure has been nice and clean for awhile. Too bad.

August 18, 2010 at 1:37 p.m.
FM_33 said...

Obama is a Muslim and a NOI secret member.

Well he did go to the Million Man March ?........ did he not.......yes he was there folks !

August 18, 2010 at 1:44 p.m.
FM_33 said...

The NOI used Obama for recruiting new young blacks into the movement so that they will be trained to kill anybody that the movement don't like like they did to Malcom X crazy ass.

August 18, 2010 at 1:47 p.m.
FM_33 said...

Why would he support a group of people who wont to destroy this nation ?

Because he is part of another nation.....get it !

August 18, 2010 at 1:48 p.m.

Here's more FACTS the Left-Prog cannot answer to, the little brain and no heart may explode:

"“Dhimmis,” as the protection tax-paying Non-Believers are supposed to be called, must live among their Muslim compatriots in total submission to them. Wearing badges of different colors to identify their religious affiliations, dhimmis should neither build tall buildings, nor should they ride horses. They must display their ‘inferior’ status to their ‘superior’ Muslim neighbors.

The following verse of the Quran speaks well about qatilu and dhimmitude:

9:29: “Fight those who believe not in Allah, nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, (Islam), (even if they are) of the People of the Book (i.e. Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.”

Commenting on the above verse, Mohammed Arkoun, whose work Robert D. Lee has translated into English, says in “Rethinking Islam”:

“(These verses) like the rest of Sura 9, warrant a long historical and theological commentary. They have fed an interminable polemic from which there is no escape because it is conducted at the dogmatic level. I cite them here not to touch off new controversies but to attract attention to the urgent need for a modern rereading of these sacred texts that takes account of historical context and doctrinal struggles aggravated by the appearance of the Qur’an at the beginning of the seventh century.” (p.72).

Professor Philip K. Hitti has been candidly straight forward, while drawing our attention to the historical facts that had formed the basis of Muslim aggressions against the non-Muslims from the time Islam was in its infancy to the time it had acquired enough military muscle to conquer almost one third of the world’s Pagan, Jewish and Christian lands. Writing in the History of the Arabs (pp. 143 & 144), he says: “… Outside the Arabian peninsula and especially in the instance of the ahl-al-kitab (Christians and Jews) there was a third and, from the standpoint of the conquerors, more desirable choice besides the Koran and the sword-tribute. “Make war … upon such of those to whom the Book has been given until they pay tribute offered on the back of their hands, in a state of humiliation.”

August 18, 2010 at 1:49 p.m.
acerigger said...

I've gotta wonder,where in the world does canary come up with this stuff? since he/she will provide no links or sources for his/her statements, I can only scratch my head and marvel.

August 18, 2010 at 1:51 p.m.

"In fact, without jihad, Muhammad would not have succeeded in establishing Islam in the Arabian Peninsula. The rich Jews of Medina were the first and foremost target of his jihad. Their defeat, deportation from Medina and murder made him not only rich, but also strong enough to take over the pagan city of Mecca without an armed struggle.

From that time on, Islam did not look back and its followers took over one country after another to plunder them and to force their inhabitants into subjugation. Where financial gains appeared preferable to their forceful conversion to Islam, they let their victims follow their religions after paying them protection tax. Islam would have become the only religion of the world, had not the Muslims been defeated at the gates of Vienna in 1683.

Muslims still have their eyes on all the non-Muslim countries of the world. They would love nothing better in their ephemeral lives than to take them over, thereby fulfilling Allah’s desire to make Islam the only religion of all the humans and Jinns on earth. Allah would reward Muslims for this success with berths in the Gardens (heaven) where they would have not only Allah’s company, but also numerous virgin Hurs, and the male youths of perpetual freshness (the Quran; 76;19) to have sex with them at their whims, and for as many times as they would like... (cf. Judith Miller in God Has Ninety-nine Names; p. 26), and their libido always present in their minds.

Until Muslims are successful in their efforts to take over the entire earth by force or deceit to impose Islam on it, jihad, i.e. bloodshed, will continue to remain an essential part of Islam, with many of its followers fully and completely committed to it. Human blood is the lifeline of Islam. Without it, Islam would die".

August 18, 2010 at 1:57 p.m.

Then google it deviant-do your own homework lazy schmuck. It's all there.

August 18, 2010 at 1:58 p.m.

Living proof you're all so indoctrinated, you will NEVER read anything that disagrees with your own little agendas. In every pasted essay I post are numerous attributes, mentions and clear statements that point to the author/authors. But hey, when all you know is to cut and paste lies and trash from Kos, the White House and CNN, the ACLU, etc., what do we expect? I give many different sides of an issue. The concrete heads know only one Mantra-"I am a worshipper of the god of progressive-leftism, I am indoctrinated by the secular gods and they alone. Leave me alone to suck my thumb and drool on my bib..." Urp.

August 18, 2010 at 2:09 p.m.
tnjay said...


How is what the Kecks wrote racist? From my reading of it, they seem to disdain the "barack the magic negro" song, and were only making the point that Mr. Fleischmann hired the person who came up with it. I don't see anything racist in the letter at all.

August 18, 2010 at 3:14 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

"Then google it deviant-do your own homework lazy schmuck. It's all there."

I did that and more with a whole slew of your lies. You not only did not acknowledge or rebut them, you went on to post another long diatribe of lies. It was clearly a waste of my day, except to show other readers that you are not to be trusted. Ever.

August 18, 2010 at 4:21 p.m.
HiDef said...

tnjay - Thanks for pointing that out. I misread it myself and made a mistake.

August 18, 2010 at 4:37 p.m.
crtsports said...

tnjay -

You know, you are right. I read the letter a few times last night but was obviously reading it in the wrong context. I read it as one of Obama's consultant and not the consultant of that song. My apologies on that one!

August 18, 2010 at 8:52 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Canary, nothing you have written cannot also be read or implied in the Old Testament. You know, the book that you say you follow.

What is your point other than to show that when the most radical orthodoxy of any religion is in charge there is war, terror, and persecution?

Need I point out what Christian nations have done throughout history in the name of religion? Perhaps I could point out to you that many people believe the Iraq war was started for access to oil by George Bush who stated he felt he was "chosen" by God and received guidance to lead this country.

The Bible and the Koran are both filled with love, hate, tolerance, intolerance, etc. Their are millions of peace loving believers of both religions in the world. It is only when people of the most radical orthodoxy, (hint hint), who preach intolerance of others beliefs or non beliefs that has resulted in the horrors we have witnessed throughout history. Canary, how many quotes do you wish me to give in the Bible showing hate and intolerance?

Here is a quote from a person, notable for his own intolerance, but perceptive none the less. He too understood how the the power of intolerance and self-righteousness, properly channeled, could sway even normally logical people to commit atrocities on an epic scale.

“The greatness of every mighty organization embodying an idea in this world lies in the religious fanaticism and intolerance with which, fanatically convinced of its own right, it intolerantly imposes its will against all others”

Adolf Hitler

August 19, 2010 at 12:47 a.m.
acerigger said...

hotdiggity,,you rock! that was great,don't care what anyone else says.

August 19, 2010 at 1:25 a.m.

what moronic lapdogs. none of you have proved anything, not a thing, except you all know how to access the disproved (many times) Left sites, the hate and trash they spew.

Your heads are all so filled with the drug of indoctrination you may not have noticed I've been posting credible sources from the Muslim world, disputing everything you all just posited. You don't get a thing because you choose not to. Muslims and ex-Muslims know far better than you dogs what is and has been going on in their world. You choose to believe the liars, that's really your problem.

Keep patting yourselves on each others backs, it makes you all and those like dewey who appreciate your words, look like duped idiots whose time will have come in Nov 2010 and 2012.

You vipers have been forewarned. There are no more excuses for your wanton stupidity and hard-heartedness. When your time comes, remember, through your weeping and wailing what your words and idiocies have been.

August 20, 2010 at 11:07 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I won't argue Islam with you, as I don't know a whole lot about it. But you have proven yourself dishonest on topics I do know, in the presence of all the posters here. Hence, your words mean very little. Credibility and trust, once lost, is difficult to regain. You could start by showing a little humility and admitting when you are wrong. Until then, your posts are a no more than a fart in a gale.

August 21, 2010 at 7:08 a.m.
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