published Wednesday, May 19th, 2010

The Rabble Rouser

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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nucanuck said...

Could the Tea Party become part of our Funeral Party? Neither fear nor anger make for good governance.

May 19, 2010 at 1:11 a.m.

Here we go again, simplistic, indoctrinated pap from the 'other' side. Yeah right, Republicans are all evil, twisted masters and the robotic Tea partiers are "dumb, moronic rednecks" (according to the Left thugs) just waiting to bash someone's head in...get a life, get real, Real, smart Americans were at the polls last night and will be again in November. The only moronic head bashers so far have been from the Dem-Left and their 'helpers', the New Black Panther Party along with the newly-named ACORN. Dare ya to draw the truth Clay. Nah, too hard, eh?

May 19, 2010 at 4:44 a.m.
alprova said...

Reading the headlines this morning, one would almost gasp, as they are painting a picture of pure triumph for those who call themselves Tea-Party members.

The only problem is that not one of these races immediately change the seating arrangement in either of the Houses, nor were there any real surprises, one way or the other.

In Pennsylvania, Joe Sestak, a Democrat with a clear liberal voting record during his two terms in office, derailed Arlen Spector's bid to switch hit for the Democrats, a move that the voters did not swallow as being realistic or believable. The man is also 80 years old.

Also in Pennsylvania, Democrat Mark Critz defeated Republican Tim Burns in a special election to fill the House seat held for more than three decades by Democrat John Murtha, who died a few months back.

In Arkansas, Democrat Blanche Lincoln was forced into a run-off against Lt. Gov. Bill Halter, also a Democrat. She's not out yet. And even is she loses in the future, the seat will be held by a Democrat

Republican Rand Paul, running as a hard line Conservative, replaces Kentucky Republican Jim Bunning, who is retiring. The man would not have had a chance if he were not Ron Paul's son. He faces a race against a very popular Democrat in November.

Is forcing an 80 year old Republican defector into retirement, electing a self-proclaimed Republican with no political record to weigh, and a run-off between two Democrats, a Tea-Party triumph?

I'm sure some think it is. Realistically, it's not much more than making a gallon of very weak lemonade out of three small lemons.

May 19, 2010 at 6:12 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

And the motives of the tea party's critics?

Were you at the tea party? We think balanced budgets are a good idea. We observe that Social Security and Medicare are broke; that Greece is broke; that President Bush's massive deficits have been further enlarged by President Obama.

We think freedom is a good idea; that people do not become angels, qualified to run our lives for us, by becoming bureaucrats or politicians; that bureaucrats and politicians are as sinful and proud and greedy and power-hungry as the rest of us.

We have better things to do than politics, but we care about our country ("our"=all Americans) too much to leave it those who are ruining it.

Well?

www.lohr84.com

May 19, 2010 at 6:26 a.m.
alprova said...

Canary wrote" "Republicans are all evil, twisted masters and the robotic Tea partiers are "dumb, moronic rednecks"..."


If the shoes fit, and no one else is claiming them, by all means feel free to keep 'em and call them yours.

And although the above was taken completely out of context, remember...you wrote it.

May 19, 2010 at 6:40 a.m.
rolando said...

The real point to the Pennsylvania election is:

1) FORMER Sen Spector had the full and very public support of the Democratic hierarchy -- including Dear Leader, his VP, the PA Gov, the DNC, and the rest of the usual suspects...which support probably hurt him.

2) Rep Sestak had none of the above, bucked the Democratic Political Machine, proved Spector to be the cross-hitting opportunist he is...and quite handily won the election.

Speaking as a conservative, I congratulate him. At the same time, I wish he had lost...because Spector would have lost his butt even worse in November. Sestak will be a tougher opponent.


The real point to the Arkansas vote is simple: the voters want the incumbents out -- party is immaterial. Those who disparage or belittle the Tea Party cannot seem to grasp that fact -- Partiers don't care about Party...they care about America.

Halter is a come-from-nowhere candidate who forced the incumbent into a runoff...an incumbent with full DNC support [again]. With the third candidate excluded from the runoff, the voters will again speak their mind...an anti-incumbent mind.

Then, of course, comes the real election in Nov against a real opponent. But that's another day. Hopefully, Dear Leader will publicly support the Dem -- support that is turning into a "Kiss of Death".


The real point of the Kentucky win is obvious; the voters threw out the established party death-grip on this country...and voted for the Conservative guy with the Tea Party endorsement.

Speaking of the Tea Party, they played little to no public role in the Spector/Sestak battle. The problem for the incumbents is simply, more voters identify with the goals and ideals of the Tea Party than with the Dem/GOP.

November will be interesting...and perhaps finally eye-opening for those who thought their seats secure. Cross the voters at your peril.

And if all that is NOT a "picture of pure triumph" for the American voter taking back his/her government, nothing is.

Clay -- Like the taste of sour grapes? There is more than enough cans of "Anger" left against the incumbents to topple them -- regardless of party -- and your hopes and dreams of a totally Socialist America are turning into dust.

May 19, 2010 at 6:46 a.m.
Livn4life said...

REALITY would be another can Draw-boy Clay. As I see the incredible division of our nation, I cringe. The question will become how long can we go on divided as we are? Those who seek empowerment, DEM/GOP/TEA PARTIERS etc. will only bring more division. Persons who have their own perspectives, unwilling to realize neither political party at this time has a viable answer, will spew out their negativity blaming the other side as unfair, dumb or out of touch. Meanwhile, we will try to continue on as we have done for decades. One day it will catch up to us. Then it will be interesting to see where we head. Who can and will bring unity to this needy nation? They do not appear to be around. So look out America we may be in for a rough ride!

May 19, 2010 at 7:40 a.m.
MountainJoe said...

The real significance of yesterday's results is a rejection of establishment candidates in BOTH parties in favor of outsiders. Establishment, "moderate" RINOs have been joining establishment Democrats in running the country into the ground for years, and the voters are ready to clean house.

Now this is "CHANGE" I can believe in!

May 19, 2010 at 7:58 a.m.
Shock said...

Bravo AndrewLohr and Mountain Joe! As a fiscal conservative and social liberal I don't often agree with Andrew (he often writes on social topics), but he's absolutely correct here. We need at least one more alternative to the two established parties, or at the very least a party or movement that pressures the established ones into better representation. I haven't yet discerned how the tea partyers are much different than libertarians, but anyone advocating for reducing budgets and government waste gets my vote. Republicans need to quit trying to claim tea partyers as some sort of subset of their party and Democrats need to focus on the issues of the party and not some of the fringe members (after all, we don't paint their entire party with the brush of ACORN and Black Panthers, right Canary? The New Black Panther Party? Seriously?)

In any event, Clay, your cartoon is off base. Try one that focuses on a serious movement that is being hampered by fringe radicals. You could draw three of them, actually - one for each party. . . .

May 19, 2010 at 8:32 a.m.
aces25 said...

Amen, MountainJoe, amen.

May 19, 2010 at 8:46 a.m.

Bennett and the left still don't get it.

If I read another person writing "where were the Tea Partiers 8 years before" I think I'll scream.

May 19, 2010 at 8:47 a.m.
olhoazul2 said...

The cartoon is super in that it shows how a bunch of "Saltine-types", aka, those of the "Caucasian Persuasion", are getting their "underoos" in a wad because demographics are running against them. Their time as the political and population majority is ticking and will hopefully end soon. "Anger" and "Fear" are no doubt just knee jerk reactions to denial of this reality. Great job, Clay.

May 19, 2010 at 9:18 a.m.
librul said...

OK Ghost - go at it - WHERE WERE THE TEA PARTIERS 8 YEARS AGO?

May 19, 2010 at 10:20 a.m.

olho: you sound like a racist.."saltine-types", aka those of the Caucasian Persuasion" you write. Unless you are full-blooded Indigeno/Mixteca/Zapateca, I take it you are of spanish blood by your handle. If so, welcome to the Caucasian Race. One of the three categories on earth: Caucasoid, Mongoloid and Negroid. All of our species DNA is locked into the same 'program'. All of our blood runs red buddy. The last time I checked History, the Spanish (conquistadors) wreaked quite alot of havoc and genocide on the face of the earth, so singling out one group constantly as the Bad Boys, shows your ignorance of the matter.

BTW, while the TeaPeople are probably pale-pinkish ones in the majority, many blacks and hispanics, asians, native Americans are also out there with them. Of course the MSM's cameras don't pan across those individuals in the crowds they show on TV. The TeaPeoples consist of (majority) Dems and Indies along with the Conservatives and Repubs.

Speaking of taking words out of context, showing one's ignorance, not being able to read; my exact words above-for those who just can't seem to get things right:

Yeah right, Republicans are all evil, twisted masters and the robotic Tea partiers are "dumb, moronic rednecks" (according to the Left thugs)... The only moronic head bashers so far have been from the Dem-Left and their 'helpers', the New Black Panther Party along with the newly-named ACORN.

For those unwilling or unable to do research, the Dem Party is now run by the Left (Dems own admission), NOT by the more conservative, moderate Democrats. In an article in the Washington Times recently (and for the last year, the conservative media doing the research on this issue all media should have done) by Jerry Seper, "Justice Stonewalling on Black Panthers Case", Seper outlines just who in the Justice Dept (Eric Holder, member of the Dem Party and appointed by Obama, another member of the Dem Party) has been aiding and abetting the illegal refusal of providing full info re: the Black Panther thugs (who are also Obama Dem-Left voters) and their intimidation tactics at the polls in 2008-9). Seems there is a huge cover-up and no hands have been 'slapped' for the civil rights/voting rights violations of the Panthers. And ACORN or whatever it changed its name to recently, votes Republican, eh?

May 19, 2010 at 10:34 a.m.

Another little tidbit: in Kinston, NC last year, the majority Black town no longer wanted the "Democrat" party designation-only on their ballots. Some (or many) want the option to vote for the other Party. Seems Holders office and staff (including Coretta King) did not want 'their' folks voting Republican too. So Holder and thugs trashed the civil "rights" act for a moment in time to see to it that the voters in Kinston would be forced to vote Dem only. Yes...Repubs are the problem, eh? TeaPeople are all white racists mmmm?

Patheticos. You don't bother to research facts, you hurl insults and idiocies. Like Rolando and others outlined factually above, you show your ignorance and hatred every day of the week. Clay included.

May 19, 2010 at 10:35 a.m.
Walden said...

New Canadian said "Neither fear nor anger make for good governance." I couldn't agree more.

There has been more fear and anger mongering coming from Obamareidpelosi than you have ever seen in any administration prior to this one. Every major initiative (bailout, govt healthcare) and even "minor" ones (bird flu pandemic!!!), is preceded by unprecedented scare tactics and hyperbole. Please.

May 19, 2010 at 10:45 a.m.
InspectorBucket said...

Of one clay God made us all, And though men push and poke and paddle in't (As children play at fashioning dirt-pies) And call their fancies by the name of facts, Assuming difference, lordship, privilege, When all's plain dirt,-–they come back to it at last; The first grave-digger proves it with a spade, And pats all even.

~~ Elizabeth Barrett Browning, Aurora Leigh

May 19, 2010 at 11:04 a.m.

Lib: "OK Ghost - go at it - WHERE WERE THE TEA PARTIERS 8 YEARS AGO?" Let's not leave it at a mere eight years. How about ten years ago?"

Working their buttocks off, paying their taxes, raising their families, coming home tired, yet better off as a whole than they are today...Today? Older and wiser. Awakened.

May 19, 2010 at 11:45 a.m.
Nagoc said...

"Amid complaints about high taxes and calls for a smaller government, Americans paid their lowest level of taxes last year since Harry Truman's presidency, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data found."

Enough said - way to keep 'em stirred up Clay!

May 19, 2010 at 12:47 p.m.
Sailorman said...

Nagoc - so what? As far as I'm concerned, taxes aren't the issue. The ever expanding government is. Whether they fund it through taxes or deficit spending, it's too big, too intrusive, and does waaaay too many things it shouldn't be meddling in.

May 19, 2010 at 1:46 p.m.
rolando said...

Nagoc - You can thank Bush, in part, for those reduced taxes this year.

Wait until next year -- Bush's tax reduction policy expired this year...so Dear Leader is ready to go. Come April, it's Katy bar the door.

Watch for a tax increase for all those making less than $250,000/year...the same ones Dear Leader promised not to raise. Yeah, right.

May 19, 2010 at 6:16 p.m.
InspectorBucket said...

Dante Gabriel Rossetti "The King's Tragedy" (excerpt) http://www.bartleby.com/42/715.html

And louder ever the voices grew,
And the tramp of men in mail; Until to my brain it seemed to be
As though I tossed on a ship at sea In the teeth of a crashing gale.

Then back I flew to the rest; and hard
We strove with sinews knit
To force the table against the door;
But we might not compass it.

Then my wild gaze sped far down the hall
To the place of the hearthstone-sill;
And the Queen bent ever above the floor,
For the plank was rising still.

And now the rush was heard on the stair,
And “God, what help?” was our cry.
And was I frenzied or was I bold?
I looked at each empty stanchion-hold,
And no bar but my arm had I!

Like iron felt my arm, as through
The staple I made it pass:—
Alack! it was flesh and bone—no more!
’Twas Catherine Douglas sprang to the door, But I fell back Kate Barlass.

May 19, 2010 at 6:55 p.m.
alprova said...

Canary wrote: "Another little tidbit: in Kinston, NC last year, the majority Black town no longer wanted the "Democrat" party designation-only on their ballots."


You're so full of crap. Republicans who ran for office were absolutely included on the ballots prior to a move to remove any party designation next to a candidate's name in Kinston, North Carolina's local elections. It was intentionally instituted to confuse voters, presumably those to be less educated and black, who traditionally support Democrats.

If such an attempt were made to remove party designations in a Republican dominated district anywhere in this country where the population were 66% white, conservative, or Republican, the howls would be deafening.


"Some (or many) want the option to vote for the other Party."


They had the option at any time. They were just outvoted and the majority chose to support Democrats.

But keep reading to discover just how off the mark you are on this one.


"Seems Holders office and staff (including Coretta King) did not want 'their' folks voting Republican too."


A complete and utter lie. No Republican was ever denied a right to run for local office, nor were any of them prevented from qualifying to be on any ballot. The problem was that they simply do not win an election very often.

Loretta King, not the deceased Coretta [Scott] King, and no relation to Dr. Martin Luther King, stated that "Removing the partisan cue in municipal elections will, in all likelihood, eliminate the single factor that allows black candidates to be elected to office."

Kinston elected a Republican Mayor last year, a first in nearly a hundred years, with his Republican affiliation clearly in place on the ballot next to his name.


"So Holder and thugs trashed the civil "rights" act for a moment in time to see to it that the voters in Kinston would be forced to vote Dem only. Yes...Repubs are the problem, eh?"


In this case, like so many others where creative tactics are used to prevent people from voting their will, yes indeed, Republicans are a problem.

The same goal of preventing votes for Democrats is attained in other voting districts that are largely Democratic, by Republican hacks obtaining the Democrat voter rolls, mailing political letters to those registered Democrats, and then making challenges to protest any vote by those whose mail is returned undelivered.

Yeah, it's legal, but just another in a long line of tactics used to prevent Democrats from casting votes.


"TeaPeople are all white racists mmmm?"


All? No. Most? You betcha. None of them voted for President Obama, that's for sure.

May 19, 2010 at 10:11 p.m.
Oz said...

olhoazul said....The cartoon is super in that it shows how a bunch of "Saltine-types", aka, those of the "Caucasian Persuasion"

What do you think about affirmative action for white men in the NBA?

May 19, 2010 at 10:31 p.m.
Sailorman said...

al

I know for a fact you're capable of coherent conversation. Why stoop to this kind of cr*p?

"TeaPeople are all white racists mmmm?"


All? No. Most? You betcha. None of them voted for President Obama, that's for sure.

May 19, 2010 at 10:48 p.m.
alprova said...

Sailorman, you are an exception to the rule. You too are capable of making valid, sane, and reasonable points of debate on the issue of what ails our Government.

However, the words posted by the self-appointed, resident Tea-Party spokesperson in this forum unfortunately represents the more prevalent and widespread opinions that seem to be everywhere, even if it may be true that there are more like you.

"It" always finds some way to infuse race into any post surrounding the issue of tea-partiers, "It" always claims victim status whenever someone calls "It" on "It's" tendency to twist the facts as they truly are or were, and "It" in this case shamelessly claims to be a competent researcher of the truth, when "it" is easily discredited with minimal effort.

If "it" drives a car, "it" should be immediately suspect in any case where someone hits something or someone, refuses to stop, and runs for the hills to avoid any responsibility, but always comes back to see what damage "It" did.

May 20, 2010 at 6:02 a.m.

"If such an attempt were made to remove party designations in a Republican dominated district anywhere in this country where the population were 66% white, conservative, or Republican, the howls would be deafening."

It appears alpie's the one with poop all over his face. As usual, he lies, twists the facts and our words. As usual he assumes I am a Teaperson and am always jumping on the race issue. He is completely insane and satanic to boot. Race and racists are always brought up in these forums by others, I counter their arguments. His continual violent and vile insults, insane comments and insane assumptions about me are further proof of the hatred and sickness in this man's mind and spirit. I rest my previous cases, the perverted, foul-mouthed Liar, posts once again and once again is wrong.

Facts: The town of Kinston is relatively small and obscure, probably why no "howls" were heard, not to say that the Obama Media complex is ever onto the stories they should be.

The town's MAJORITY are Black and THEY asked for non-partisan CONSTITUTIONAL ability to vote for their local candidates, not only Democratic voting, that's what started the whole hoopla. They were denied the right (all blacks too) to even cast a vote to change back to constitutional voting privileges.

Chief Justice John Roberts: "...the historic accomplishments of the Voting Rights Act are undeniable, but the act now raises serious Constitutional concerns.." Justice Roberts counselled caution in rushing to conclusions on such constitutional issues. The Black Justice, Clarence Thomas's dissenting opinion was that the law (section 5) was indeed unconstitutional.

The minority whites in Kinston also partnered up with the majority Blacks and most agreed they needed to be able to have the CHOICE to vote non-partisan as the 1960's voting act has been found to have been necessary at the time but is clearly unconstitutional. The only Republican ever voted in was recently, the mayor and "it is a one party town with Dems holding virtually every office."

Loretta King, yes, not Coretta (you nit-picking fool), "is the same official who put a stop to the New Black Panther party case...after a Judge ordered default judgements against the Panthers, who refused to answer the charges or appear in court.." Clearly, Eric Holder's office and staff are incredibly racist themselves, not to mention bordering on or crossing the line illegally, regarding many legal issues in the last 18 months. MLK, Loretta's kin, is rolling over in his grave. THIS is not what he intended tp happen with his people, least of all his family. Holder is toast, that's for sure. They're all toast sooner, or later. Hopefully, sooner. Alpie, burn baby burn.

May 20, 2010 at 9:33 a.m.
alprova said...

Canary, there is only one person who frequents this area of the TFP, who continuously hurls insults at others, and it certainly is not myself. Your posts are filled to the brim of all that you accuse me of, and then some.

My goodness...look at the words you hurled my way in one paragraph. Oops!

You continue to spew bits and pieces of complete misinformation, that are manifestations taken from right wing blogs, posted most likely by those who have a similar mindset to that of your own, quoting no facts as they were. It doesn't take a genius to see what the deal was and why it was put to a stop.

Again, Loretta King, who was Acting Assistant Attorney of the Civil Rights Division and U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Tennessee, is NOT related to MLK. Your continued attempt to claim that she is, only further erodes your history of having no credibility whatsoever in this forum.

As to the rest of your post, it's been sufficiently debunked with the fact that a Republican Mayor was elected last year in Kinston, North Carolina, totally discrediting your baseless assessment of the way things weren't.

But...by all means, feel free as always to keep on postin' your unsubstantiated garbage all day long. Just don't think that it will be believed or that it will just left in the room to rot. There are plenty of people who will take up your slack, bag up the garbage, and carry it out.

May 20, 2010 at 8:20 p.m.
alprova said...

Kentucky Republican nominee Rand Paul is in hot water already, a day after winning his first election.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/20/tea-party-favorite-rand-paul-criticizing-civil-rights-act/?test=latestnews

Yep...he's another shining example and a product of the Tea-Party's movement to prove just how non-racist they can be, and that they are so totally misunderstood.

May 20, 2010 at 8:36 p.m.

Alpie the Deceiver's words again as a reminder just who lies, trashes and twists every word a Conservative states here and on his perverted sites he visits; just who's mouth emits the foul fumes of the Evil One from the nether regions of the earth? Yes, it's alpie, alpie the Left's best friend:

alpie: Here we go again. If I disagree with you, it's because I "hate" you. Would you like a little block of cheese to go with your whine? By all means, put on your halo. Just don't think it glows.

bookieturnersghost wrote: "Come November, the overwhelming majority of Amercian citizens will deal with it. And, we cannot wait." Statements like the above are simply laughable. They're meaningless.

Do you ever offer any of your own thoughts Rolando? I mean, gee...we can read this same crap on Conservative, Tea-bagging, or Republican websites and blogs across the land. 15,000 idiots dressed like peacocks and holding signs while marching on Washington, D.C. and 600 attendees in Nashville is no indication of any widespread movement to "take back" anything, much less a country.

alpie: Why not piss into a 60 mph gust of wind? You'd be far more productive than you are to argue over something that will not change or be changed to suit your idealistic, utopian world that will never exist.

Come down to Earth. It's not that bad. I've said it before and I'll say it now. We've seen the ruination that Capitalism can cause, left unchecked. It's time for a little Socialism to take roots to even things out for a while.

I wish I had time to watch the meeting tomorrow. I'm betting that the President is going to blister some hind end tomorrow, without a teleprompter, with a smile on his face, and I'm betting that he will hand the Republicans their cajones on a silver platter.

Proof once again that folks who consider themselves to be conservative, right-wingers, or flat out Republicans, are just that far out of touch with reality. Y'all care about those unborn babies all day long, but human life isn't worth much when they start walkin' and talkin.'

And much, much more. Most of it unprintable. Now, he's after Rand Paul, what desperation. And what a sore Loser. Rand Paul is a Genius, a Paragon of Virtue and a True Warrior compared to alpie's piddling, diddling little self. No wonder he's so angry and spewing lies as usual. No wonder he invents what he cannot dispute factually.

May 21, 2010 at 1:30 p.m.
alprova said...

Canary wrote: "Rand Paul is a Genius, a Paragon of Virtue and a True Warrior compared to alpie's piddling, diddling little self. No wonder he's so angry and spewing lies as usual. No wonder he invents what he cannot dispute factually."

Uh huh...it was me who went on national television and who spent ten minutes avoiding answering a simple question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3O2rBz9gwo

Then it was me again, who spent nine more minutes proving that there was nothing but rocks rolling around inside my cranium.

Not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqAAfSfap5w&feature=related

Canary, I have a little poem I made up just for you:

Roses are red. Violets are blue. Rand Paul is a kook. And so are you. Ron Paul, his papa, is jumping with glee. His son, the acorn, fell from the same tree.

Come fall, Tea-baggies will try to be heard. They'll so desperately vote for this unpolished turd. The day after the election, he will suddenly realize: That it's back to the trenches and staring into eyes.

"So what if I lost and I have to go back? The Government ain't making me hire no black. I'll eat what I want and choose where I dine. At least I am loved by canaryinthecoalmine."

May 22, 2010 at 4:55 a.m.
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