published Wednesday, November 3rd, 2010

The End

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Tax_Payer said...

Yes we can't, yes we can't, yes we can't!

November 3, 2010 at 12:35 a.m.
SeaSmokie59er said...

You said it Tax! Now nothing will get done.

November 3, 2010 at 1:25 a.m.
fairmon said...

Getting nothing done may be good. The third district of Tennessee sure missed an opportunity when they failed to elect either Savas Kyriakidis or Mark Devol and chose instead flash Fleischmann.

November 3, 2010 at 2:51 a.m.
hambone said...

"Sometimes nothing is a real cool hand"

Luke

November 3, 2010 at 5:51 a.m.
Livn4life said...

Clay I give you credit man, this one is sad but true!

November 3, 2010 at 5:57 a.m.
woody said...

To true, to true, Clay.

However, just as I expected..the sun is gonna rise..milk and bread will still be the 'hottest' items at the grocery, dogs will continue chasing cats and it's 'high time' for all of the big talk to be replaced by hard work.

Ain't life grand?? Woody

November 3, 2010 at 6:07 a.m.
SCOTTYM said...

"Now nothing will get done."

That's a feature, not a bug.

November 3, 2010 at 7:44 a.m.
eeeeeek said...

eeeeeek!

November 3, 2010 at 7:59 a.m.
hambone said...

Clay's cartoon is so true, those that were elected yesterday are busy planing their re-election campaign today.

Until we have REAL election reform prosperity will always be "just around the corner"

November 3, 2010 at 8:58 a.m.
Francis said...

speechless, clay...?

guess the voters who gave republicans and tea party people 23 u.s. senate victories..and 56 or so new u.s. house seats yesterday wanted change, huh?

stopping obama's agenda is getting things done.

November 3, 2010 at 9:10 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Amen Francis. Stopping Obama is the single most significant achievement from yesterday. If someone was really tuned in to what is relevant now they would be concerned about any shenanigans in store under the lame duck congress, not the next election cycle. As usual, clay's politics keep him from achieving razor sharp relevance.

November 3, 2010 at 9:24 a.m.
Francis said...

also..check out the governorships...big defeat for dems...

it is "real election", hambone...just because you don't like the results....

we have had prosperity.....obama is the prosperity killer, the grim reaper, the destroyer of the american dream and the denier of american exceptionalism.

obama's vision is history...just like all the other socialists, communists and totalatarians before him.

i voted for savas kyriakidis as well...by far the best man out there for the office.

November 3, 2010 at 9:29 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

The big ridge log cabin patriot wrote: "Stopping Obama is the single most significant achievement from yesterday...As usual, clay's politics keep him from achieving razor sharp relevance."

Clay's comment was about campaigns. It's just one cartoon.

Instead of getting mad at what he didn't say, why don't you draw your own cartoon?

Oh wait. It's easier to criticize than it is to actually do something constructive, as those newly elected Tea Baggers are about to find out.

November 3, 2010 at 9:36 a.m.
Francis said...

no blackwater...the "tea baggers" and republicans did something..they got rid of a group of people who want to destroy this country..it's called cleaning house.

the election was about obama. period.

patriot is 100% correct.

p.s....the only reason reid won was because of voter fraud...union thuggery and initimidation in nevada. he'll get his soon.

November 3, 2010 at 9:49 a.m.
Francis said...

you libs check out kristi noem...the republican winner in the south dakota congressional race.....she's your worst nightmare...a woman, a conservative, a businesswoman and a farmer......

get used to more like her.

she's a real person who has solved real problems in the real world.

the opoosite of the cold, statist, theoritician, academecian that obama is.....

November 3, 2010 at 10:03 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

Clay's cartoon was about political campaigns. He didn't signify one party or the other. He was referring to the fact that ALL politicians have to start their campaigns right now.

You and cabin boy are criticizing apples for not being coconuts.

And Francis, your comment: "p.s....the only reason reid won was because of voter fraud..." left out the Sharon Angle angle.

November 3, 2010 at 10:07 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

blackwater, clay is always doing a liberal cartoon about two days after it might be interesting. In this case any thinking person is not interested in the 2012 campaign but is thinking about the lame duck session of congress and how the GOP is going to conduct itself. The topic of today's cartoon is just as boring as usual.

Maybe your not doing any of your own thinking so you find clay interesting?

I have considered doing my own cartoons but someone (clay?) has a habit of deleting posts that have a link to another site. I am not all that interested in putting in the time to generate a cartoon for you just so clay can dump it.

I am really impressed by your amazing ability to distort people's usernames. Where did you learn that skill? Do you lay up at night trying to figure out your clever word plays. Someday, if I try really hard, maybe I could do something like that. It would make me really proud!

November 3, 2010 at 10:32 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

Good luck with that, big ridge.

As I drove to the polling place yesterday it occurred to me that every candidate on the ballot had been described by their opponents as someone to fear.

Each candidate was called out of touch, crazy, morally corrupt, intellectually challenged, and so on and so forth. Both sides were guilty, but Republicans had more money so maybe they just yelled a little louder.

I was relieved that we wouldn't be subjected to all that malarkey for at least a little while. Then Clay served up a reality sandwich that made me lose my appetite for politics altogether.

Sorry for being obtuse.

November 3, 2010 at 10:50 a.m.
moonpie said...

The average American voter reminds me of my cat. Whatever side of the door she's on, she thinks it's the wrong side.

Over the past 20 years the balance has shifted back and forth with increasing frequency.

Obviously there were no big surprises in this election.

Congratulations to all the newly elected officials. May you lead with wisdom and humility.

November 3, 2010 at 10:53 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

The overly sensitive BigRidgePatriot wrote,

"I am really impressed by your amazing ability to distort people's usernames."

Sorry if I offended you. Just having a little fun. I guess you're just another innocent victim of my pointless rage.

Here's some help with my name:

bilgewater

sludgewater

blackbile

blackgoo

FYI, my name has nothing to do with private government military contractors. It refers to the creek that flows past our house. In the early morning and late afternoon, partly from all of the trees lining the banks, the water appears to be jet black.

November 3, 2010 at 11:03 a.m.
woody said...

Keep up the good work, Blackwater48..or might I be so informal as to call you "48" for short??

I had hoped all of the 'big talk' might die down, at least for a while, but I guess I had hoped for too much. All I can say is that if the 'ones' Francis and his 'gang' fought to elect legislate the way Francis and his 'gang' talk there will not be one piece of meaningful legislation coming out of congress for a long time to come.

So, since 'peace and quiet' seems not to be in 'their' vocabulary..Rant On You Fools..Rant On!!

So much for being a good winner, Woody

November 3, 2010 at 11:40 a.m.

Today's effort could have come from a 5th grader. And no offense to 5th graders.

So why not the high road, Clay? Perhaps a small kudos to the big winners, the American citizen? Or are you too much like Nan Pelosi?

November 3, 2010 at 12:12 p.m.
Francis said...

ding dong..the witch is dead..the wicked old witch..ding dong..the wicked witch is dead...

November 3, 2010 at 12:14 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

blackwater, I was kidding, don't see any value in calling people names. Good job though. Everyone has to have something they are good at.

November 3, 2010 at 12:20 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

There are only two groups celebrating the Republican landslide:

1) Corporations. The fat cats are giddy about their minions overturning credit card reform, Wall Street reform, health care reform (who hasn't missed the Insurance company's death panels?) and clean energy. Lets keep the middle east oil flowing west and our billions of dollars flowing to terrorists. Oh, a don't forget extending the Bush tax breaks that will add $700 billion to the debt.

2) Editorial cartoonists.

November 3, 2010 at 12:40 p.m.
Sailorman said...

The two parties are nothing more than opposite cheeks of the same butt.

My admittedly cynical bet is that the federal government will continue to grow as well as produce a constant flow of new regulations. The financial morass will continue. The shape of the pile may change a bit but it will remain a stinking pile.

November 3, 2010 at 12:51 p.m.
Francis said...

today we celebrate....the glee felt by those today who believe in american exceptionalism and freedom is in direct proportion to the misery heaped on on this country for the last two years by obama and liberals.

you libs' idea of "meaningful legislation" consists of how much control can the governement have over the lives of tax paying citizens.

obama has been rejected. no compromise, no bipartisnship...nothing..we won...he lost...

today we celebrate..tomorrow all of those who were elected better do what they were elected to do..or t hey'll be out as well.

November 3, 2010 at 12:53 p.m.
hambone said...

Francis, it seems that the only interest you have in politics is your hate for Obama You need to think about the money pouring into the big kettle called Congress and the craving for re-election it creates. Re-election means never cutting entitlements, earmarks and nevers raising taxes which leads to never reducing DEBT.

and so "prosperity will always be just around the corner"

November 3, 2010 at 1:04 p.m.
junepop55 said...

"The two parties are nothing more than opposite cheeks of the same butt."

Quote of the week, Sailorman.

I never would have thought Francis an optimist, but expecting Washington to be different after this election is Pollyannaism to a degree I've seldom witnessed. . .

November 3, 2010 at 1:05 p.m.
rolando said...

I have taken to checking to ensure my comments appear here...Hell of note, that.

November 3, 2010 at 1:14 p.m.
alprova said...

As Clay so eloquently points out, yesterday's election is over, a few races are left to be called, and all eyes are now on 2012 for politicians on both sides of the aisle.

The proof of the Republican determination to start running for office in 2012 is in the comments of those now slated to take office in January, and in those offered by a couple of people in this forum as well.

I think that too much is being made of this election and the end results. Under the circumstances, a swing of the pendulum was very much in order. The job market is still very tight, fearmongering is out of control, and unease still permeates this nation.

Speculating now as to what all this means and what will happen is pointless until the seats are vacated and reoccupied.

All we have been hearing and will continue to hear over the coming 80 days are going to be nothing but generalities. Promises made will be broken, as always. The Republicans do not have the power to reverse or redact anything, as much as they would like to think that they do.

The Senate is still dominated by the Democrats. Barack Obama is still the President.

If the Republicans and their newly elected Tea Party members charge in with a head full of steam, thinking that they have full charge of this nation, and begin enacting radical, conservative agendas, they will be sorely disappointed.

If they spend the next couple of years playing the blame game when those same radical motives are shot down, one-by-one, the pendulum will swing again.

The only thing that is going to impress those who gave Republican and Tea-Party members their day yesterday is very simple; Unless positive steps are taken to produce jobs for the unemployed, unless more is done to prove that life is just as important for those who are in need health care as it is for embryos in a womb, and unless the Republicans work on behalf of ALL Americans, they will not enjoy the pleasure of keeping their jobs in 2012.

So until this coming January, talk is cheap. Actions will indeed speak louder than words. And until actions are taken, discussion of what will or will not be done is meaningless.

'Til January.

November 3, 2010 at 1:52 p.m.
nurseforjustice said...

Username: moonpie | On: November 3, 2010 at 10:53 a.m.

If I remember correctly we don't usually see eye to eye on everything but that was very classy Moonpie.

November 3, 2010 at 2:37 p.m.
Clara said...

When I approached the polling place, there were 8 large Rep. signs, and 2 small Dem. signs all in a row.

From the ads I got through mail, phone, and internet, it's obvious, especially in my rural community, who would win.

November 3, 2010 at 3:30 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

alprova wrote: "Unless positive steps are taken to produce jobs for the unemployed, unless more is done to prove that life is just as important for those who are in need health care as it is for embryos in a womb, and unless the Republicans work on behalf of ALL Americans, they will not enjoy the pleasure of keeping their jobs in 2012."

I respectfully disagree. House Republicans will introduce bills they know either won't be enacted upon by the Senate (the Democratic Senate left plenty of Democratic House measures on the table) or, if passed, Obama will veto.

Then they'll trot enmasse to the microphones where the "liberal" media will repeat the daily sound bite. Then they'll call Democrats outrageous and out of touch and that they (GOP) were sent to Washington to change everything.

Obama wants to work with Republicans! Why does he think they'll start now? When he tried to pass GOP initiatives, like cap and trade, they wailed about it being un-Constitutional. When he included Republican proposals in the Health Care and the Stimulus Bills they voted against it anyway.

Why would they start compromising now?! Their idea of cooperation is total Democratic agreement. When Obama continued negotiating with them progressive voters got very angry.

In the mean time, prepare yourself for plenty of House Oversight Committee hearings investigating Democrats in general but Obama in particular. I fully expect Impeachment proceedings by next summer.

Hope I'm wrong, but this is the GOP. These guys are still peddling extending tax cuts for the rich, adding $700 billion to the debt, and fiscal responsibility.

The 2012 campaign, which began today (thanks Clay) will be about Democratic gridlock. Republicans don't want answers, they just want issues. Not passing any legislation will give them all the ammo they need.

November 3, 2010 at 4:24 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Username: rolando | On: November 3, 2010 at 1:13 p.m.

I am pretty sure it is clay that sensors links to other cartoons. He can't stand to see better work nor the idea of a conservative or libertarian finding something to laugh at on this page.

You don't see the link patrol at work on anything outside of this page.

November 3, 2010 at 4:28 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Someone like Chris Cristie? I don't think he is going to be available by 2012 though.

You?

November 3, 2010 at 4:56 p.m.
sd said...

Ro/BRP: The TFP is removing posts that link to outside newspapers. I've had posts deleted elsewhere for that reason.

Clay, term limits and term lengths are a subject of keen interest to me. A friend worked for a Congressman for years, and while she loved the excitement of her job, it was stressful because they were constantly campaigning. It's tough to have job security for no more than 2 years a stretch. Our Senators get a little breathing room, but 4-year terms with a 2-term limit is probably the sweet spot.

Et al: The real question for our new representatives is, "What now?" or more specifically, "What spending will we cut and what taxes will we raise?" because that's the way out. It's at times like these I most deeply regret that the finer things in life (prostitution, narcotics, and fine Cuban cigars, naturally) are not legalized and taxed out the wazoo. God knows we could use the pocket change.

November 3, 2010 at 5:28 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

sd,

Add royalties on domestic oil! Heaven forbid we tap into that "gold mine".

I hear Cuban cigars are not what they used to be, consistent with my experiance.

November 3, 2010 at 5:34 p.m.
Lightnup said...

Alprova confidently declared on November 2, 2009, "Mark my words Sir. Republicans will not dominate the Houses, nor pick out the china for the White house for at least a decade, if not longer."

Ooops.

November 3, 2010 at 5:58 p.m.
fairmon said...

I don't care for either party and don't think it matters which is in power when the stuff hits the fan and we can no longer deny that we are a bankrupt nation.

Maybe the dems just out smarted the pubs in 2010 mid-terms. They didn't spend their money, they didn't run good races. Could their strategy be; Let the pubs take control, it is going in the tank regardless of what anyone does. We can then keep the presidency and regain control in 2012. But, If they were that smart we may not be in the shape we're in.

November 3, 2010 at 6:11 p.m.
jabbo77 said...

Well now we can become the party of NO and take back the House in 2012. With an incumbent President!

November 3, 2010 at 7:04 p.m.
ouzzy88 said...

OK GOP's we voted you in, you can stop making your employees do your yard work and hire us landscapers back. Also fill those needed postions your making one employee do 3 peoples jobs. This is whats SAD BUT TRUE!

November 3, 2010 at 7:05 p.m.
RiverRat84 said...

I would love to see Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent as running mates for President and Vice President!

November 3, 2010 at 8:20 p.m.
Francis said...

hambone...my "hate" for obama? if you want to slap that comic book lable on me, feel free to do so. while you're at it feel free to do the same to all the other people who feel as i do,...the ones who voted in 65 new republican u.s. house members, 24 republican u.s. senators from various states, many, many republican governors and sate legislaters. look at the u.s. map and see how much red there is compared to the blue after this election.. guess there's a lot of "hate' out there for obama, huh. i'm glad to be part of that ever growing number. i "hate" what obama stands for, i "hate" his attack on freedom, free enterprise, the american dream and american exceptionalism....i hate how he looks down his nose at those who don't like to be told what to do...he's an arrogant, smug, bully and authoritarian...that's the way he comes across.....and millions will back me up on that.

November 3, 2010 at 8:37 p.m.
BobMKE said...

Francis said it all right on his 8:37pm post. hambone don't let Clay off the hook on his hate for the "TEA Party" citizens. Clay hates these people who now have taken the steps to take this Country back. The TEA Party people will now make sure that the people they have helped elect keep their promises they made to get elected. The TEA Party now has put ALL elected people on notice that they better reverse the far left's movement toward big government. Remember, Francis, myself, Rolando and the others hate what Obama has tried to do to this Country. We don't hate our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ like Clay and others do. All of us need to pray for this Country. My prayer is that all of our elected people follow this; The elected person serves his party best when they put their Country first.

moonpie, I also want to compliment you on your 10:53am post. Very classy of you.

November 3, 2010 at 9:19 p.m.
whatsthefuss said...

It must really SUCK to be so faithful to the Democratic Party that all one can say after the American people have spoken is the other side now has to shut up and get to work. After 2 years of super majority and the 2 before a majorty rule the wheels of this train have been screeching with sparks flying and you people are still pretending to be deaf and blind. Dumb still applies. You as a collective group are what is wrong with America!!! Go eat some fiber as I am now certain the lack of it is what creates the cogger in the first place. Where is the FREE BEER!!!

November 3, 2010 at 9:25 p.m.
AlmostAmanda said...

Have any of you geniuses complaining about Clay not giving the appropriate congrats to the GOP considered the possibility that he has a deadline that runs well before most, if any, of the election results were in? I'm no artist by any means, but I would guess that even the very talented need some time to complete their work - especially when it is in color and requires shading. If you haven't seen anything else in a few days, fine, but be reasonable.

November 3, 2010 at 9:25 p.m.
rolando said...

Let us ever bear in mind that impeachment proceedings begin in the House... Maobama keeps doing what he is doing and we might just see it happen. More Senators are up for re-election in two years.

And we are angry enough at the incompetent egotist to do it.

November 3, 2010 at 9:27 p.m.
AlmostAmanda said...

rolando, what exactly has Obama done that qualifies him for impeachment? Not liking him and following the illogical and arrogant idea that people who don't agree with you are anti-American don't count. In case you're not sure, this is what the constitution has to say on the matter:

"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

November 3, 2010 at 10:07 p.m.
hambone said...

The new congresswoman from South Dakota Kristi Noem, that Francis likes so much has been feeding at the farm subsidy trough for years to the tune of $3 million in the last 10 years or so. Poor little GOP farmgirl. Hows that for reducing the debt, smaller government and hypocracy Francis?

November 3, 2010 at 10:10 p.m.
CP7768 said...

I'm a little bit confused. According to multiple posters, the Tea Party is putting elected officials on notice that if they do not toe the Tea Party line, then they will be voted out. So if the Tea Party is supposed to have such a large base of angry Americans, then why did did only 32% of the 140 Tea Party-backed candidates win? Perhaps Christie O'Donnell wasn't the answer to your problem?

November 3, 2010 at 10:17 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

I don't imagine that Obama will get impeached. Even Bush with his high crimes and misdemeanors managed to escape impeachment.

I suppose that the Republicans should be happy. They have already indicated that they will raise the defense budget (so much for smaller government) and repeal the Health Care bill...you know...that bill that will reduces the Medicare donut hole by 75% in the next few years and mandates that Medicare recipients get free wellness checks. Yeah, granny, no free ride for you!

Boehner will continue to make sure that his state receives their massive billions of dollars farm subsidies because the poor farmers are struggling since they only make 30% MORE annual income than the average American family. Yep, only a trillion dollars in farm subsidies since 1995. That's a bailout that the American people won't see any return on.

Boehner also thinks that No Child Left Behind (a bill crafted to allow "intelligent design" to be taught in the classroom)is working. I just wonder if he has really even talked to a teacher about this. Clearly not.

I do agree with Boehner that we need to reduce our energy dependence. And that something needs to be done about illegal immigration (which will be tough since it isn't illegal to be IN the country illegally...just illegal to ENTER the country illegally)but I don't agree that he flat out lies about how the Middle class will pay more taxes (they, in fact, pay less due to Obama's stimulus bill) and how Medicare recipients are going to lose benefits (absolutely not true). Fear may be a great motivator but often motivates a physical response rather than a thinking response...and we Americans need to be thinking right now.

As I have said on previous posts, Republicans will win but nothing will change...except for more spending and more bickering.

Someone had posted a comment about BOHICA on another post. Truer words have not been spoken.

November 3, 2010 at 10:38 p.m.
SCOTTYM said...

"(which will be tough since it isn't illegal to be IN the country illegally...just illegal to ENTER the country illegally)"

Good grief.

Logic = Fail

Such is the effect of imbibing too much leftist drivel.

November 4, 2010 at 12:10 a.m.
SavartiTN said...

Uh...ok, Scotty.

November 4, 2010 at 1:11 a.m.
alprova said...

Rolando wrote: "Let us ever bear in mind that impeachment proceedings begin in the House... Maobama keeps doing what he is doing and we might just see it happen."


See what happen, an impeachment?

You rarely disappoint me by producing more outrageous examples of sheer ignorance each and every week.

What would the charge be?


"More Senators are up for re-election in two years."


And?


"And we are angry enough at the incompetent egotist to do it."


And you are too incompetent to understand your own dependence on the Government, and who is working on your behalf.

Of all the people on this board, your support of the Republicans, whose members want to repeal the first steps in reforming health care for this nation as a whole, makes the least sense of all.

In the absence of realizing what the Democrats have done for you, as a man who is beholden to the Government for all you receive in compensation and for your health care, your anger must be centered on the President's race, rather than any assessment of his competence.

Not that the Republicans will be successful in repealing the new health care laws, you'd cut off your own nose to spite your face, by voting for the party that will do everything in their power to see to it that you join others in eating dog food or choosing between paying your electric bill or purchasing much needed medicine.

Perhaps you are healthy as a horse and have no such concerns today. But you are not a spring chicken anymore, are you?

You're not going to beat the odds forever Rolando. One day, and it could be sooner than you think, you're going to eat your words, and wish you had truly understood which political party has your back, and which one is more likely to pat you on the back, with a very sharp knife in their hand.

I dunno...I guess you deserve all you desire, but then the world does not revolve around you and your misplaced, ignorant anger.

November 4, 2010 at 5:11 a.m.
alprova said...

Lightnup wrote: "Alprova confidently declared on November 2, 2009, "Mark my words Sir. Republicans will not dominate the Houses, nor pick out the china for the White house for at least a decade, if not longer." Ooops."


A year ago Tuesday, I wouldn't have thought it possible.

I was wrong, but only because I, like everyone else, underestimated the stubborn economy and I also underestimated the ability of so many in this nation to use fearmongering as a tool by which to win political scores.

The Republican have the house, but not the Senate. And on this day, there is not one Republican candidate that can dethrone President Obama, despite his low approval numbers.

The game has changed and the Republicans now have a chance to redeem themselves and to prove their ability to do better than the Democrats.

Will they do it? Time will tell.

BTW...where have you been Lightnup? I do miss our exchanges, even if we never seemed to agree.

November 4, 2010 at 5:21 a.m.
rolando said...

I am well aware of what is in the US Constitution, AlmostAmanda...perhaps more aware than you if you cannot see how Maobama has usurped the duties and controls established therein for the Legislative Branch. All those czars with no oversight and no accountability outside the Executive, for instance. The destruction of the dollar in the international market, for another. The examples of his arrogance are legion.

Not that it will happen, of course. The Senate sits in final judgment, after all. But that comes ONLY after a House conviction. Maybe The Messiah [in his eyes only] will take the third fall, maybe not. Not something to be aspired to in any case.

November 4, 2010 at 7:08 a.m.
rolando said...

And even more links disappear! One must wonder just how petty a cartoonist must be to fear an idea so much. Maybe that's why he hasn't won anything in the last 10 years or so. Fear is a powerful motivator. Sounds like total censorship to me.

Exactly which "Term and Condition" or "Ethics policy" is it that I am violating, oh might censor? Or do you prefer to remove something on a personal whim because you don't like what it says?

November 4, 2010 at 7:13 a.m.
moonpie said...

FYI, rolando,

I sent a message to Clay about a month ago. He emailed back and told me that a post I had made linking to a liberal site would probably be removed because the higher ups at the paper don't want people linking away from this site.

Clay said he was trying to pursuade them against this policy.

My post was deleted.

In this case, you're seeing what you want to see. You're carving out a special place for yourself as a victim.

November 4, 2010 at 7:54 a.m.
BobMKE said...

Alprova,

I think that Obama needs to fear someone from the moderate side of the Democratic Party that will run against him. I made this prediction on this post last year; Hillary will quit her post and run against Obama in 2012. I know that she isn't a moderate and neither was Bill, but he had the savvy to run as one and so will she.

November 4, 2010 at 8:23 a.m.
anniebelle said...

Hate to bust your fake reality world over there, rolando, but here's a fact for you if you can digest such as that. Did George Bush have Czars? The answer is yes. Just about every president since Franklin Roosevelt had "Czar" appointees in their administration. Bush had a total of 36 positions filled by a total of 46 different individuals over the years, of which 21 were confirmed by the U.S. Senate.

The number of 46 is still highly objectionable, as some of the alleged czars were only nicknamed czars by media outlets. For instance the Director of National Intelligence was a position created by Congress, that required President Bush to fill. The Homeland Security "czar" was a temporary position until the Dept. of Homeland Security was formally created and funded. At least two other czars were appointed to serve emergency and temporary positions; Federal Coordinator of Hurricane Katrina Recovery Effort, and Special coordinator to respond to health effects of September 11 attacks.

So, what's your 'czar' theory now.

November 4, 2010 at 9:13 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I think links are a valuable way to provide supporting information without cutting and pasting into this forum and having to worry about some kind of copyright infringement.

How about everyone here who cares clicks on the "Feedback" link at the top of the page and let them know what you think. Maybe the TFP should concentrate on content quality and not worry about trying to deter perceived competition from other sites.

November 4, 2010 at 12:16 p.m.
rolando said...

re: moonpie at 0754 hrs today

Thank you, moonpie. My intent was to gain the information you just gave me. Glad to hear it wasn't Clay, actually.

Next stop is the "higher ups".

I find the removal of a link to a Jewish website rather disturbing; the TFP publishes the cartoon I cited on that one at least every Sunday so the "other newspaper" business seems rather weak.

Further, the TFP publishes conservative political cartoons every day on the "right" side of the editorial pages under the Free Press logo. The cartoons are from a variety of artists presumably unassociated with the TFP. This further weakens their argument re; other newspapers.

As you can tell, I find particularly onerous the censorship of or in any public news media based solely on an ideological/religious basis. In my opinion, that borders on a violation of free speech, something every newspaper demands.

The TFP's published "Ethics policy" makes interesting reading. Click below to read it.

November 4, 2010 at 12:52 p.m.
anniebelle said...

btw, rolando, I did come across a section in my home library that could possibly pique your interest. I have a complete collection of Mark Twain's works -- try Letters From the Earth -- most interesting reading.

November 4, 2010 at 2:58 p.m.
AlmostAmanda said...

Well, since you know so much, why don't you spell it out for me. What exactly has the president done that qualifies as an act of treason, bribery, or a high crime and misdemeanor? And please spare me the Beck and Limbaugh-style sound bites - just give me one specific example.

I'm looking forward to your response, though I honestly don't expect much from partisan nitwits who are still so stuck in their post-election tantrum that they rely on childish, nonsensical nicknames and/or thoroughly debunked political urban legends rather than actual reasoned criticism when discussing an elected official they don't like. Grow up, boys.

November 4, 2010 at 11:46 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

"OBAMA IS NOT A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES!!!That alone is grounds for impeachment!"

The tard is strong with this one.

November 5, 2010 at 7:21 a.m.
alprova said...

Tard? I think you meant turd.

November 7, 2010 at 5:28 a.m.
rolando said...

Personal attacks, indian. That is the sore losers' best [and only] response.

You are aware that Maobama's latest appointee to the SCOTUS is the same person who withdrew all those birther lawsuits from consideration by the SCOTUS? It was his payback to her.

That is yet another reason for impeachment...

I would provide the cites for the above statement but the TFP would censor it by removing this entire post, thereby limiting/censoring free speech and the free exchange of information...another Maobama supported idea.

November 7, 2010 at 6:20 a.m.
alprova said...

Rolando wrote: "Personal attacks, indian. That is the sore losers' best [and only] response."


So what's YOUR excuse, since you consider yourself to be such a winner?


"You are aware that Maobama's latest appointee to the SCOTUS is the same person who withdrew all those birther lawsuits from consideration by the SCOTUS? It was his payback to her."


Absolutely and positively FALSE. You never, ever check out the facts when you post ANYTHING, do you?

Do a quick search for "Kagan" on the Snopes website to discover the facts and the truth.

What? Did someone send you that stupid e-mail that has been floating around for four months? Geez...


"That is yet another reason for impeachment..."


Your ignorance as to what constitutes an impeachable offense is only exceeded consistently by the repetitive misinformation and unsubstantiated rumor you attempt to float in this forum.


"I would provide the cites for the above statement but the TFP would censor it by removing this entire post, thereby limiting/censoring free speech and the free exchange of information...another Maobama supported idea."


Could you whine a little louder?

No one is shutting down you right to free speech. The new links policy is not popular with anyone, but the simple fact is that they provide the site and they have the right to put forth any policy they desire.

Get creative. If you think you have credible proof, you can figure out a way to refer to it, as I did above to prove that your idiotic assertion is pure unadulterated bunk.

Kagan had nothing at all to do with so much as one of the "birther" lawsuits that were individually thrown out of court as having not one iota of merit to be filed in the first place.

To sit there and allege that our President was not born in this country AND to consider him guilty of any crime whatsoever that would ever be considered an impeachable offense, only proves that you are nothing short of a complete kook.

November 8, 2010 at 5:44 a.m.
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