published Wednesday, September 8th, 2010

The Recall Campaign

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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notlittletommy said...

Why can't you let it lie? It's over. The law rules, whether you like it or not, Clay. But since you're at it, how 'bout recalling Reid or Pelosi? Nah, didn't think you would go for that.

September 8, 2010 at 12:59 a.m.
whatever said...

I don't believe it's been established that Federal officeholders are subject to state recall laws. I'd be very careful about setting that precedent.

September 8, 2010 at 2:14 a.m.
acerigger said...

"I don't believe it's been established that Federal officeholders are subject to state recall laws."Username: whatever "oh yeah?just wait 'til us "Real American"Tea Baggers take over in November!" At least that's what I hear on tv

September 8, 2010 at 2:29 a.m.
whatever said...

Well, if they want to explicitly make themselves subject to recall laws, that could be taken as within the authority of Congress, in Article 1, Section 4(a) and Section 5(b), so I suppose that'd be something they could lawfully do.

Then I guess it'd be the business of the voters in Nevada and in Pelosi's district in California.

September 8, 2010 at 2:36 a.m.
OllieH said...

notlittletommy- I don't think Clay is advocating the recall of Judge Hollingsworth. I believe he's showing how the recall petitioners will be reacting to the court decision.

Sheesh! Don't be such a dim bulb.

September 8, 2010 at 2:42 a.m.
OllieH said...

Uh... Earth to Forum... Earth to Forum...

This cartoon is about an effort to recall the mayor of Chattanooga. It's about Ron Littlefield, and (more specifically) the yahoos that want to throw him out of office for having the fiscal audacity to propose a property tax increase.

This has nothing to do with Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi. Please, try to stay on point. You're just embarrassing yourselves.

September 8, 2010 at 3:10 a.m.
toonfan said...

Really, notlittletommy. Do you ALWAYS have to be such a nimrod?

September 8, 2010 at 3:16 a.m.
whatever said...

This has nothing to do with Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi. Please, try to stay on point. You're just embarrassing yourselves.

I'm not embarrassed, somebody else brought it up, I expressed my thoughts on the matter. I don't know why you'd want to be so hostile over it. If you wish to get things back on topic, you could have chosen a more tactful approach.

September 8, 2010 at 3:17 a.m.
Tax_Payer said...

I believe the recallers have the city counsel's attention now. Everybody now knows the rules on how the next recall should go. I believe everybody learned a real valuable lesson from this activity. Next time, it will work, because the judge said "the state is what counts!"

September 8, 2010 at 6:09 a.m.
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September 8, 2010 at 6:16 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Ollie, I don't like the tax increase, but I especially don't like that Mayor Littlefield didn't run for office on a tax increase platform, and a wastewater fee increase platform, and an annexation platform. He did nothing for four years, he ran for re-election without saying anything (that I noticed), and now he wants to do this stuff. It's lying by silence when he should have spoken (as we Christians do when we don't warn that God now orders all men everywhere to repent); it's breach of contract. And instead of saying Maybe I was wrong, annexation can wait even though city taxpayers paying for county services is a complicated real issue; sorry about the wastewater, though it's kind of hard to avoid now; re taxes, I'll put a libertarian budget on the ballot, with big spending cuts--privatize all parks and recreation centers, for instance--as an alternative to a tax increase--he wants to throw out thousands of signatures on technicalities. (I'd like a libertarian budget, but our mayor has no more mandate for one than for what he has done.) Pride is sin; arrogance is foolishness. Of course a few people are leading the effort, just as our mayor is one man, but has it occurred to him to wonder why thousands of people are willing to sign these petitions, and that maybe they've noticed something worth noticing?

September 8, 2010 at 6:35 a.m.

Judges decision another example of the government trampling on the constitutional rights of its citizens.

September 8, 2010 at 7:34 a.m.
najones75 said...

Earth to Ollie, Earth to Ollie...

This has much more to do with than a property tax increase (pay attention much?). There are several other increases and issues that us "yahoos" have had shoved down our throat, due to this mayor's incompetance as an executive leader. How about some fiscal "audacity" of cutting the budget of wasteful spending like the rest of us "yahoos" have to do in order to make ends meet.

You see, that's real life. When you're having monetary issues, you cut the budget, not increase it. We can't just give ourselves a raise, like the mayor seems to think he can give the city government a raise. And we certainly can blatantly take from other people like this mayor has blatantly taken from us.

But, as usual, you and your liberal comrads on this blog...the same one's who get on here and kiss clay's @ss because of his "genious" and call everyone who doesn't agree with you names, like a 3rd grader...are going to follow along party lines...instead of logic.

September 8, 2010 at 8:08 a.m.
eeeeeek said...

If you don't follow the path of Miss Mary Mack... you will be doomed...

September 8, 2010 at 9:16 a.m.
OllieH said...

najones- I called one person a name and that was 'notlittletommy'. I find his (or her) posts to be singularly uninspired, motivated by personal animosity, or just off point completely (like today's post). To label him as merely a 'dim bulb' was a generous assessment.

As for my attempt to re-focus of the earlier debate, well, it does get tiresome to see these threads hijacked by some mindless right-wing talking points. I understand that discussions can often shift directions, but many times these debates jump tracks completely. It reads like some psychological stream of consciousness exercise. You know, those tests where a shrink says a word and wants you to say the first thing that pops into your mind. Unfortunately, the first thing that seems to ALWAYS pop into some of your minds is- Obama, Pelosi, or Reid.

This cartoon sums up their instincts of the recall petitioners quite nicely. The campaign against Littlefield was totally inspired by an anti-tax mentality. Manny Rico and Jack Benson were then added to their hit list when they felt like those men weren't showing them the proper respect. It just goes to figure that Judge Hollingsworth, having rendered a decision against their campaign, would be the next target of their lynch mob's retribution.

And finally, I find your indictment of those of us who express our appreciation for Clay Bennett as kind of sad. It seems to speak to your own resentment of his skill as a cartoonist. Bennett is a great talent who deserves every compliment he gets. It's just a shame that your own partisanship has caused you to resent, not only him, but also anyone who might admire his work.

September 8, 2010 at 9:58 a.m.
deltenney said...

It has turned into a political ballgame -- but the will of the petitioners and voters should not be ignored; to impose increases and penalties on an electorate that has not had a voice, nor an opportunity to counter the imposition of such burdens is just not fair. A more careful analysis and scrutiny is needed.

September 8, 2010 at 11:07 a.m.
alprova said...

najones75 wrote: "This has much more to do with than a property tax increase (pay attention much?). There are several other increases and issues that us "yahoos" have had shoved down our throat, due to this mayor's incompetance as an executive leader."


Quite honestly, I can't understand how anyone can call Mayor Littlefield incompetent with a straight face.

At a time when other cities are in the dumps, Chattanooga is growing. Businesses are relocating here. Jobs are coming here. Tourism continues to thrive here. the city is vibrant, attractive, and appealing.

These are not acts of incompetence by a city Mayor.


"How about some fiscal "audacity" of cutting the budget of wasteful spending like the rest of us "yahoos" have to do in order to make ends meet."


What "wasteful spending"? For at least a year, that's been mentioned by those who seem to oppose the Mayor, but I've yet to read of any examples of spending that can be considered "waste."


"You see, that's real life. When you're having monetary issues, you cut the budget, not increase it. We can't just give ourselves a raise, like the mayor seems to think he can give the city government a raise. And we certainly can blatantly take from other people like this mayor has blatantly taken from us."


For nine long years, the city of Chattanooga has worked within budgets without any major tax increases. Compare that to other cities across the country. Compare what you pay in taxes to that of other areas across the country.

Tax increases are never welcomed. They never come at a "good time." They are necessary however to fund the functions of Government. Mayor Littlefield, as well as other leaders before him have made this city a great place to live and work, and attractive to outsiders as a place to come and visit.

More needs to be done. There are still problems that need addressing. It all comes at a price.

Those within the city limits of Chattanooga all have an obligation to invest in their community. Everyone benefits from those investments, whether they think so or not.


"But, as usual, you and your liberal comrads on this blog...the same one's who get on here and kiss clay's @ss because of his "genious" and call everyone who doesn't agree with you names, like a 3rd grader...are going to follow along party lines...instead of logic."


I'd love for anyone at all to make a logical argument as to why Mayor Ron Littlefield deserves to be removed as from office, because to date, I have yet to see one.

Don't blame Clay for making points that you may disagree with. Blame those who were too incompetent themselves, to assure that their efforts were being performed according to all the laws on the books.

September 8, 2010 at 1:32 p.m.
lifesaver said...

Clay, I wouldn't be surprised at all if your cartoon was prophetic.

September 8, 2010 at 1:54 p.m.

Odd.. but guess who was City Council Chairman the last time the city charter was (supposedly) reviewed and updated to apply with state laws? Go ahead, take a guess.

Yep. Ol' career politician and Evangelist wannabe, Ron the Don.

September 8, 2010 at 9:36 p.m.
moonpie said...

This is what I'd expect from a group that set out to meet minimum standards. A competent group would have figured out the minimum plus what would be needed if state law was followed and worked toward both.

These guys left so many loose ends, it was bound to unravel at a tug from any direction.

These guys were amateurs. They didn't like it when I noted it before. Perhaps they like it even less now. If you can't organize a simpe recall; how can we look at you to lead at all?

The operative words here are sloppy and naive. We've seen a lot of similar political thought thaws days. You reap what you sow.

September 8, 2010 at 9:39 p.m.
moonpie said...

Perhaps clay can get us all to comment on the merits of burning a Kuran (alt spelling).

September 8, 2010 at 11:04 p.m.
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