published Wednesday, September 15th, 2010

Letters to the Editor

Fairchild a great asset for the city

My family, including two children, moved to Chattanooga 32 years ago. My first job was to get the children in local schools and try to make a smooth transition.

Everett Fairchild was principal of Hixson Middle then, and I went to him for help with my son, who had been in high school at our previous location but whose grade level was middle school here. It was difficult to preserve high school credits he had earned when several of his courses weren’t even offered in middle school.

Mr. Fairchild bent over backward to help and actually created a unique solution to our problem. I learned that he, in all situations, put the students and their education and well-being first.

If you’ve read the paper lately you will note he was one of the School Board members who voted against pensions for himself and the remainder of the board. The jobs these people do is very important but it’s not full-time. Mr. Fairchild is a fine man who sets an outstanding example through his service to this community. His honesty, integrity and kindness to everyone he encounters make him a great asset to this city. Chattanooga is lucky to have him.

CAROLYN R. MCCRARY

Hixson

Right-to-work law attracts industry

Your editorial regarding Whirlpool’s remarkable investment in Cleveland was refreshing as it was one of the rare times you did not attack corporations.

However, you neglected to mention that one of the compelling reasons Tennessee is attractive to manufacturers is that it is a right-to-work state.

I hope you and your readers really understand the competitive significance of a non-union environment in the new methods of producing quality marketable products.

DONALD M. LORTON

Cleveland, Tenn.

Reverse retirement plan for board

School Board retirement. This was a bad decision, chosen at a bad time. People are out of work. [Many] have been out one year or more.

This will cause people to take a bad look at education in our county.

A lot of people are going to call for a cut in the school budget.

If they have this kind of money, why do the schools need single mothers working for minimum wage to buy books?

I’m sure if Chester Bankston had had time to think about this, he would have tried to stop it.

Rhonda Thurman has been my hero on the board, and she didn’t let me down on this. Chester, Mike Evatt and David Testerman are people of integrity. I worked with them, and I’m sure they will set this right.

Rhonda Thurman is a lady of integrity.

These are hard times, and they are going to get worse. Retirement benefits for the School Board should have never come up.

The people of the county can’t let it rest. When money is so tight and they’re trying and having such hard times.

The sooner they reverse this plan, the better for the system and the schools.

ROBERT C. LONG

Hixson

Don’t let the GOP ruin Social Security

Republicans are all about privatizing Social Security and have openly said so in many of their election campaign speeches and on Fox News.

They have even gone as far as to say if they win the House of Representatives this November, they intend to make it a major issue.

Why? So their super-rich Wall Street playmates can control all of our money!

You may want someone like Goldman-Sachs or AIG handling your Social Security, but I think I’ll stick to the federal government handling mine.

Under privatized Social Security, the next time Wall Street creates another financial meltdown (and they will) that will be the end of the middle-class, and as usual, the GOP will see to it that their pals sail away again under golden parachutes with billion-dollar bonuses in their pockets.

Keep Republicans from playing with the retirement money we worked all our lives for by not giving them the House of Representatives this November.

BEVERLY M.

SHANKEN

Rocky Face, Ga.

Bed bugs dwarf 9/11 coverage

What’s wrong with this picture? The Times Free Press editors choose as their lead story for their Sept. 11, 2010, front page a large photo of a bed bug with accompanying bold print, which dominates the front page, as compared to a much smaller and subordinate photo of a New York deceased firefighter’s 9/11 memorial at the bottom of the same page.

WILLIS MARTIN

Doonesbury in poor taste

Doonesbury (Sept. 12) Cartoon has never been in such poor taste, absolutely disgusting, to show two men hanged in one of their panels. These are the “Sunday Funnies” that kids most likely get to read. There is nothing “funny” or entertaining about Garry Trudeau’s cartoon.

I wonder how many kids have seen this and will have nightmares, or even if ideas have been planted in their heads? I know there are movies that are rated, there are computers that can lock the kids out of certain areas, there are TVs which can be controlled, but how do you stop a kid from reading the “funnies”?

I hope I am not the only one who took offense with this “cartoon.” Do your editors get to see these cartoons before they are printed?

TERRY KEISTER

Harrison

Don’t let attacks alter our future

Sept. 11 is a day that will always be a day of remembrance for what our nation endured in 2001.

It should also be a day of remembrance that when called to action, ours is a nation that can, should, and will stand together to face any threat arrayed against us.

Our citizens united when called upon by attacks against our liberty and freedoms. The attacks on 9/11 weren’t just attacks by Muslim extremists against our country. They were attacks by an extreme ideology against constitutional liberty and democratic freedoms. We were attacked not for something we did but for something we are: a nation of liberty and equality that at its heart is moral and Christian.

We mustn’t allow those attacks to change our identity or alter the direction of our future.

I thank our men and women in uniform for all they do to keep the wolves of the world at bay. They serve us in far off places and dangerous lands. I pray God will keep them safe by the power of His name.

Ours are the greatest troops in the world who, when called upon to thwart danger, never shrink from duty. I’m proud of them and proud to be counted among them.

MAJOR SAVAS

KYRIAKIDIS

Look at the facts about the economy

Correspondents with letters and some editorials published in this newspaper complaining about the current administration’s economic policies ignore certain pertinent facts.

Beginning with Eisenhower, Republican administrations, most notably that of Reagan and both Bush presidencies, were concluded with a deficit. Presidents Truman and Clinton passed on to their successors a substantial surplus only to have it frittered away.

President Obama inherited from Bush two questionable wars and the worst economy since the Great Depression.

While still a long way from complete recovery, stock market growth, steady retail sales, manufacturing profits, job increases in certain areas such as American automobile manufacturing saved by President Obama, are increasing in exports, banks just beginning to lend, tax relief in prospect for small business and Americans saving — all positive indicators.

Another depression has been averted, and full recovery is in prospect with no help and only hindrance form the opposition.

JOHN BRATTON

Sewanee, Tenn.

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Francis said...

mr. bratton...yes, obama, obama he's our man, if he can't do it, nobody can.

yeah, boy..obama knows how to breath fire into this economy...look at it chug along. we're all just so inspired and blown away by his leadershp and knowledge. he truly is the messiah.

your analysis of what's going on now is absurd and, frankly, just democrat party talking points peppered with propaganda..completely not rooted in reality.

September 15, 2010 at 2:51 a.m.
Francis said...

ms. shanken.......bull....the financial meltdown started with the f.m. & fm fiasco ....the subprime lending garbage...which was a completely democrat party creation...christopher dodd, barney frank...etc..

there's greed everywhere...but nothing compares to the greed displayed by the federal governemnt composed of politicians, who gained wealth after becoming "public servants" caving to lobbyists and beurocrats.. who only care about getting theirs at the tax payers expense.

golden parachute...like the one christopher dodd is floating away with...?

nobody wants to destroy the middle class more than obama.

September 15, 2010 at 3:05 a.m.
eeeeeek said...

francis, francis, she's our girl, count on her posts to make one hurl

September 15, 2010 at 6 a.m.
hambone said...

After reading Francis the talking Mule's post for about two weeks now seeing him (or her) cotradict His (or her) self trying to belittle anyone that tries to reason with him (or her) I have come to the conclusion that the Mule IS a GOP Troll.

September 15, 2010 at 9:25 a.m.
Francis said...

let me tell you how america works, you liberal knuckleheads....how it works without the government.

this is a great day in america.

today i just hired the guy who lives 4 houses down from me, who works for himself, to do work on my house. i work for myself, as well. two people who work for themselves entering into a business arrangement. the government has nothing to do with it. both of us are independent and successful. we both started with nothing and made something of ourselves. no beurocrat and no politician had anything to do with...

he's black and i'm white.

that's why america is a great country. it's great because of this kind of stuff. not because of the government. the governments needs to get out of the way of entrepenuership and let it explode. you liberals respect entrepenuership about as much as extremists muslims respect the concept of freedom of religion, or freedom from religion, if you prefer.

the guy who lives 4 houses down and me...are you big gov. liberals worst nightmares.

obama has nothing but disdain for us. he hasn't a clue about how great this all is.

by the way, hambone, you liberal slug, francis, with an i, is male, frances with an e, is female.

you liberals deserve all the ridicule i ditch out..every ounce of it. when you say "reason" you mean do as you say and believe as you do....when you reveal yourselves, as obama and the liberal majority have done, people are repulsed by your overstepping and desire to control people and limit freedom.

going forward i'll refer to you liberals on here as liberal slugs.

my comments are spot on....deal with it.

September 15, 2010 at 9:51 a.m.
eeeeeek said...

hambone... please don't insult the trolls :þ

September 15, 2010 at 9:54 a.m.
nucanuck said...

Francis,your ardor is admirable,your analytical skills,less so.

By viewing everything in black and white,good and bad,you are missing much of what is really happening.

September 15, 2010 at 10:32 a.m.
hambone said...

Chill out Fannie. I guess all the Women i'll known that spelled it witha (i) were wrong. It's kinda like being a MULE NAMED SUE!!

September 15, 2010 at 11:12 a.m.
Francis said...

not at all, nucanuck.....you liberal, psuedo intellectuals on here....grading my "analytical skills", my reasoning ability(a.k.a seeing things your way)... etc..etc....ignore common sense, logic, facts and history...i just illustrated to you, by my own personal experience, how well things can work without he government...but that doesn't matter..."real life" takes a backseat to your sophistry and theorizing and ideology.

there is black and white....right and wrong, normal and abnormal, good and evil., ....somethings require no compromise.

it doesn't matter what i say.....you just don't like that i call it as i see it.

somethings require no analysis at all..no sophistry....no graying at all...

they are what they are...through and through..

100% of all terrrorist on 9/11 were mulsim males, illegal aliens from mexico are here illegally, charlie rangle is a crook, timothy geithner is a tax cheat, the new black panthers are guilty of voter intimidation, the more money the government takes from you the less you get to keep, bill clinton was guilty of perjury, bill clinton took advantage of a subordinate, forcing some- one to buy a commodity or face prison is a loss of freedom, obama's morit- orium on drilling is devastating the gulf states, other countries drill in the gulf but not us...etc..etc...

none of all that is disputable...yet liberals have tried to muddle it, gray it, cast doubt on it...

September 15, 2010 at 11:39 a.m.
Francis said...

how many women have you known that spell their name francis?

i'd like to know. an exact number.

because they may not be women at all.....where do you hang out?

even something as indisputable as the name francis, spelled with an i, as opposed to an e, being the masculine version, you deny...typical liberal..

September 15, 2010 at 12:03 p.m.
Francis said...

apparently you live in a neighborhood with sidewalks dotted with dog crap that all looks the same and you know a lot women with a man's name.

not a pretty picture.

September 15, 2010 at 12:08 p.m.
whatever said...

there is black and white....right and wrong, normal and abnormal, good and evil., ....somethings require no compromise.

And some things do. If you never compromise, then you'll be in a bad place too.

it doesn't matter what i say.....you just don't like that i call it as i see it.

It doesn't matter what any of us say, you just won't admit that sometimes you are seeing things wrong.

illegal aliens from mexico are here illegally

You might want to run that by the Department of Redundancy Department.

the new black panthers are guilty of voter intimidation

Find a single voter who claims they were intimidated.

C'mon, find one.

the more money the government takes from you the less you get to keep

OMG! And then they just pile it up and burn it! The scoundrels! You get no value out of it at all!

bill clinton was guilty of perjury, bill clinton took advantage of a subordinate,

Bill Clinton is out of office, has been for the past decade. Get over the past.

forcing some-one to buy a commodity or face prison is a loss of freedom,

Go join the Whiskey Rebellion.

obama's morit-orium on drilling is devastating the gulf states,

A 6 month moratorium that will impact maybe 33 wells out of 3600 is devastating? In that case they need a more robust Economic base in general.

other countries drill in the gulf but not us...etc..etc...

Name three.

none of all that is disputable...yet liberals have tried to muddle it, gray it, cast doubt on it...

I just disputed quite a few. You can go around ranting about all these things that aren't true, but do you convince anybody? NO. You are ruining any validity to the arguments you might have by your insistence on clouding them with falsehoods, petty grievances and out-of-date complaints.

There may be good ideas in your positions, but they're buried under a layer of trash. Do you not realize how you're doing folks on your side a disservice? Clean up your presentation, make better arguments, stay current, and you'll do a whole lot better.

BTW, Explosions are bad.

September 15, 2010 at 12:17 p.m.
Francis said...

you just proved my argument.

and you have no idea how.

you liberals are quite consistant.

September 15, 2010 at 12:25 p.m.
tennstar said...

I totally agree with Mr. Martin. BED BUGS?? On 9-11!!!! Of course, the media does not want us to remember the horrific acts of terror on that day so we won't profile the enemy. True Americans know who they are--please do not forget!

September 15, 2010 at 12:37 p.m.
whatever said...

you just proved my argument.

Wrong, you just proved my argument!

and you have no idea how.

I know how you think, but um, guess what? I disagree completely. Picking apart your house of cards does cause it to come tumbling down.

Well, it would, if you weren't so convinced of your own self-importance that you probably blame the nail for being in the wrong place when you hammer your own thumb.

you liberals are quite consistant.

You are quite consistent. Can't accept criticism, can't admit you were wrong, can't rebut arguments against your position, so you pretend they don't exist, or you attack the person involved. Because you can't be wrong, you can't be making a hash of your own arguments, and you can't be showing yourself off for a joke. Instead of focusing on problems, you focus entirely on antagonism. Terribly sad really when you think about it.

September 15, 2010 at 12:59 p.m.
Francis said...

tennstar. exactly. the liberal media has done everything it can to downplay 9/11. thanks.

September 15, 2010 at 1:01 p.m.
whatever said...

After reading Francis the talking Mule's post for about two weeks now seeing him (or her) cotradict His (or her) self trying to belittle anyone that tries to reason with him (or her) I have come to the conclusion that the Mule IS a GOP Troll.

No, it's something else! I think he's trying to pretend to be one in order to discredit their ideology entirely! He's a beard for the Vast Radical Left Wing Conspiracy.

Unfortunately, he's way too unsubtle, so his agenda is obvious.

September 15, 2010 at 1:04 p.m.
Francis said...

illegal aliens from mexico are here illegaly....it is redundent...but yet you libs are confused by it...as obvious as that is...you liberals can't grasp it..you even have trouble with that stupidly obvious fact and try and muddy it....for politically correct reasons, of course.

"your going to be ruled by the a black man, cracker" that's a quote attributed to one of the black panth- ers by a voter... ......it's one of the most blatent examples of voter intimidation in quiet a while....not disputable

"just pile it up and burn it "....exactly..that's a good a good way to describe what they do with a lot of our tax dollars...

typical liberal...no empathy....go down to the gulf and ask them how bad it is. see how real life com pares to theory and idealogy.

brazil, mexico and i think venezuela drill in the gulf

"get over it"....sounds like a democrat party talking point....

that's a real deep response.....you liberals are the ultimate hypocrites.. letting any liberal get away wiht murder as long as they say the right things........first of all.....the example of bill clinton is good one. it's timeless. so set aside your arrogance and desire to toss out the cliche "get over it"...and think about the consquences of it...

it points out a double standard and destroys the myth that the government is somehow superior to the private sector.

i would be mortified and ashamed if a candidate that i supported had sex with a subordinate on the tax payers dime and committed perjury. if he had any integrity he would have resigned....i'd demand that of the person i supported.

September 15, 2010 at 1:39 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

liberal media? The TFP is hardly 100% liberal. Or is it the Times that is solely responsible for the bedbugs taking the front burner? Oh, and by the way, I am liberal and I know that Francis is a masculine name, and Frances is feminine. It's stupid to link that to liberalism.

September 15, 2010 at 1:59 p.m.
whatever said...

illegal aliens from mexico are here illegaly....it is redundent...but yet you libs are confused by it...as obvious as that is...you liberals can't grasp it..you even have trouble with that stupidly obvious fact and try and muddy it....for politically correct reasons, of course.

It's redundant. You should have come up with a conclusion, to support why it's a problem. That's much more convincing. Or just say "illegal immigrants" and leave it up.

But the way you spoke? Very sloppy.

"your going to be ruled by the a black man, cracker" that's a quote attributed to one of the black panth- ers by a voter... ......it's one of the most blatent examples of voter intimidation in quiet a while....not disputable

Produce a voter who alleges voter intimidation. One vote.

Can't do it, can you? Besides, you do know it was dismissed under Bush's administration, right? The same administration that dismissed charges against a group called the Minutemen. Do you know what weapon they carried at a polling place?

Where is your outrage against that?

typical liberal...no empathy....go down to the gulf and ask them how bad it is. see how real life compares to theory and idealogy.

I just talked to my friend who lives there last night, not a problem for her, she's still more upset over the oil on the beaches and not being able to go fishing.

brazil, mexico and i think venezuela drill in the gulf

Two out of your three are wrong. Have you even seen a map?

Or are you alleging that those two countries have invaded the sovereign waters of the United States? If so, I suggest you call the Navy, and tell them to get on the ball.

"get over it"....sounds like a democrat party talking point....

Ok, then the next time somebody talks to you about reparations, no complaining.

i would be mortified and ashamed if a candidate that i supported had sex with a subordinate on the tax payers dime and committed perjury. if he had any integrity he would have resigned....i'd demand that of the person i supported.

Too late, he's out of office. Been so for a decade. You can keep crying over it, but Congress didn't remove him from office, so all it shows is...you're the one who can't move on.

That doesn't speak well for you. Especially since it's so partisan on your part. Did you know what Reagan lied to the country about? ACTUAL matters of public policy, and criminal acts on his part. Can we go back and put him on trial? Nixon we can't since Ford pardoned him, but hey, if that hadn't happen, would you do so? No?

Also no more complaining when anybody blames Bush II for events today. None. Otherwise you're going to be a hypocrite.

September 15, 2010 at 2:13 p.m.
whatever said...

It's stupid to link that to liberalism.

Yeah, stick to stuff with real connections, like cancer, diabetes and the increase amount of super-villain crime in Gotham.

Wait, no, that last one is because of Batman. Wait, Batman is against Guns and the Death Penalty. That means he's a LIBERUL!

Oh noes!

September 15, 2010 at 2:28 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Silly whatever! All conservatives are upstanding, righteous, clean living citizens. Think of Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Mark Sanford, Newt Gingrich...

uh, nevermind...

September 15, 2010 at 2:40 p.m.
fairmon said...

Carolyn McCrary,

I agree with your comments regarding Mr Fairchild. He is truly a gentleman and he was an outstanding principle several years at Hixson High School. Mr. Fairchild obviously serves on the school board for the right reasons and did not participate in the scandalous behavior five of them did. We need more school board members like him and Ms. Thurman and the other two that chose not to participate in the scandalous behavior.

It is frightening to think an employee in private industry or public service can decide they have not been properly compensated and give themselves a retroactive pension for an unlimited number of past years plus health care.

I wonder if there is a cap on the amount they can take from the school treasury? In private industry the unauthorized taking of funds from the company account would result in discharge and possibly criminal charges. This sets a concerning precedent and makes one wonder just how trustworthy some members will be in carrying out their school board duties.

Unfortunately we have apparently elected a greedy few to an entity that can legally take for personal use tax payer money. Tax payer money allocated by a very quiet county mayor and commission for operating and maintaining our schools. It is like they won a shopping spree. I'll have a pension please and oh yeah give me some health care also. Do you want fries with that? I hope they don't want a desert.

You would think they knew the terms and conditions of compensation before seeking multiple terms in what may not even qualify as a part time position.

September 15, 2010 at 3:27 p.m.
whatever said...

In private industry the unauthorized taking of funds from the company account would result in discharge and possibly criminal charges.

Unless you're high enough in the executive ranks and can get away with it.

But hey, at least Ken Lay and Bernie Ebbers were convicted. Too bad Lay died.

Besides, at least we're not as bad as these guys:

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7668965

September 15, 2010 at 3:50 p.m.
hambone said...

Francis seems to have a gender identity problem. Says he's a Jack not a Jenny. But when you consider how Mules are produced I can see his (her) confusion.

September 15, 2010 at 4:16 p.m.
fairmon said...

Thanks for the link. I did recall the news report about California officials. Same behavior by our board on a smaller scale. They would probably enter a no lo contendre re plea if charged.

The list of convictions of criminal acts and conviction of executives in recent years is long, probably not as long as it should be.

I am meeting with some people tomorrow evening to discuss recourse options.

Some adjustment for board members may be appropriate but not retroactively and not effective the current term. You would think there would be some approval process by a responsible party other than those receiving the increase. I personally believe voters would approve if justified and adequately explained.

September 15, 2010 at 4:52 p.m.
whatever said...

Well, once they revote, and repudiate the increase, I'll accept that as done.

The terms under which any elected board should be able to alter its compensation...I don't know. I could imagine something equivalent to the 27th Amendment, or even putting it under state authority, but I can see some problems with that too. Oh well, the only thing I'm sure about is that whatever the details, it needs to be open to public scrutiny like almost every other single government function.

September 15, 2010 at 5:07 p.m.
tnjay said...

Ms. Shanken:

The plan to "privatize" social security offered by Republicans would be voluntary. It permits (but does not require) workers under the age of 55 to invest a portion of their social security payroll tax into a private account. This account would be the worker's personal property, meaning that the government could not raid it to pay for other programs, a major cause of the problem with the current system. Furthermore, the money in the account would be guaranteed and would still be managed by the government, not an investment banker at Goldman Sachs. More details can be found here: http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/Plan/#retirementsecurity

The next time you write, please remember that discussing facts and specifics contributes to a healthy and vigorous debate. Scare mongering, without an understanding of the subject matter, can only mislead and confuse.

September 16, 2010 at 10:49 a.m.
whatever said...

Good advice tnjay! Pass it on!

September 16, 2010 at 11:36 a.m.
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