published Thursday, August 4th, 2011

Writer says Chattanooga has an ‘incredible stench’

City workers place deodorizing tablets into downtown grates.
City workers place deodorizing tablets into downtown grates.
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In Chattanooga to test drive Volkswagen's new Passat, a New York writer for a national auto magazine has taken the city's downtown to task for what he called "the most incredible stench."

In a column in the September 2011 issue, Jamie Kitman, Automobile Magazine's New York bureau chief, said the smell that at times hits downtown "makes recommending the city as a vacation destination -- or as a place to locate your heavy industry -- problematic."

"One thing's certain: it's definitely not time for VW to launch its factory-delivery program here," wrote Kitman, an award-winning journalist who was in Chattanooga recently with other auto writers to critique the Passat.

Kitman won the 2009 National Magazine Award in the columns and commentary category. It is one of the country's most prestigious journalism competitions for magazines. Kitman's award, sponsored by the National Society of Magazine Editors, is believed to be the first of its kind won by an automotive magazine.

The city Wednesday blamed hot weather, dry conditions and aging sewer infrastructure for the odor, which waste officials have tried to mask in recent years by dropping large deodorant blocks into manholes.

"Chattanooga has spent millions of dollars correcting the myriad issues that are associated with a combined sewer system that dates to the early 1900s," said Richard Beeland, Mayor Ron Littlefield's spokesman. "Aging infrastructure presents unique challenges for every American city."

Kim White, who heads the nonprofit downtown redevelopment group The River City Co., said downtown work is never finished, but infrastructure would be on her list of things to fix.

"It's overdue," she said. "I definitely think it's one of our biggest challenges."

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Josh Carter, manager at St. John's Restaurant downtown, said the eatery gets comments from patrons about the smell.

"It would be great if the city would address that odor," Carter said. "We have people coming to our city. It would make a better impression."

Jerry Stewart, the city's director of waste resources, said the problem is the city's storm and sanitary sewers lines are combined. When it's dry, he said, there's nothing to flush out the solids.

"Anyplace we get complaints, we tend to deal with it," he said.

Flushing out the sewers with water on a regular basis helps, he said, but gets expensive. One of the corrective options is to separate the sewers, Stewart said, but that would cost upwards of $400 million.

Kitman addressed about one-fourth of his column in the magazine, which boasts a readership of 4 million, to what he called downtown's "world-class pong" rather than the Passat.

"O death, where is thy string?" he wrote. " I know where your stink is."

Kitman said city economic development leaders ought to get busy and launch an initiative to fix the problem. Or if that's not affordable, spring for a "It Only Smells Bad At Night" or "What Reeks in Chattanooga Stays in Chattanooga" campaign, he wrote.

In a phone interview Wednesday, Kitman said he tried in a lighthearted way to raise the odor issue.

"I did have an otherwise good experience," he said. "The VW plant is great. Air quality is poor, and I say that, as an expert in poor air quality for a long time, I've never experienced that."

Ironically, the criticism comes after the city has lauded itself in recent years for improving air quality.

Local officials said Wednesday they don't think the odor adversely affects economic development or tourism.

Bob Doak, president of the Chattanooga Area Convention and Visitors Bureau, said he doesn't hear much about the odor.

"We do surveys of conventioneers," he said. "We don't get the feedback" that it's an issue.

J.Ed. Marston, the Chattanooga Area Chamber of Commerce's vice president of marketing, said the city has attracted millions of visitors and recruited billions of dollars worth of investment from companies.

"One of the symptoms of success is having detractors," he said. "This isn't the kind of story we want. The city is aware of the issue and working on it from the perspective of what's going to be best for the community at an appropriate cost."

Meanwhile, Bill Mish, the Doubletree Hotel's general manager, said he takes exception to a New Yorker telling Chattanooga it has an odor problem.

"Not everybody likes the smell of corned beef wafting through the air," he said.

about Mike Pare...

Mike Pare, the deputy Business editor at the Chattanooga Times Free Press, has worked at the paper for 27 years. In addition to editing, Mike also writes Business stories and covers Volkswagen, economic development and manufacturing in Chattanooga and the surrounding area. In the past he also has covered higher education. Mike, a native of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., received a bachelor’s degree in communications from Florida Atlantic University. he worked at the Rome News-Tribune before ...

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bluedagger said...

I think I found the source of the stench and it emminates from 100 E 11th St. Funny how it works out in that it is the same address as City Hall.

August 4, 2011 at 2:11 a.m.
fftspam said...

Even though we have a public works department, I remember the Mayor handing some consultant a couple of years ago $600,000 to identify the problem. I would have told him for free.... Poop stinks and it don't flow uphill.

August 4, 2011 at 2:16 a.m.
rolando said...

"Meanwhile, Bill Mish, the Doubletree Hotel's general manager, said he takes exception to a New Yorker telling Chattanooga it has an odor problem.

"Not everybody likes the smell of corned beef wafting through the air," he said."

To say nothing of the smell of boiled cabbage.

And that's on New York City's good days. That and its denizens are animals who have no concept of personal and public hygiene.

August 4, 2011 at 5:59 a.m.
riverstronghold said...

Specifics on the progress of a plan to improve this situation would be more impressive and useful than variations on "it's not my fault" or "they shouldn't say that."

"Detractors" don't make the air smell bad just because they mention it.

"Supporters" don't make the air smell better because they tell us this is what we deserve for what we're paying and they know best.

But the emperor's clothes sure are pretty, even so.

August 4, 2011 at 6:09 a.m.
smadave said...

I am fairly new to the area, coming from New Jersey, I haven't noticed an odor but I know this...this article is going to be a thorn in our side until this problem is remedied. Four million is nothing compared to the what the total damage will be if this percieved problem is not corrected. You can take that to the bank...

August 4, 2011 at 6:26 a.m.
OldBuckeye said...

Repairing infrastructure should be THE number one priority after getting Volkswagen and Amazon to locate here. The influx of new residents and businesses related to these companies has not even begun to be realized. If you think the sewers, storm drains, roads, utilities, etc., are weak and stressed now, just wait 2 or 3 years.

August 4, 2011 at 6:42 a.m.
fftspam said...

"AT LEAST HALF THAT STINK COMES FROM BUEHLERS MARKET. JUST WALK BY THERE AT THE BACK ENTRANCE"

Not from Buehler's but from Smelly Fingers. Those are their dumpsters that are always overflowing and leaking trash juice all over the sidewalk. When I see how much Sticky Fingers cares about keeping the outside clean...the dumpsters... I can only imagine how much they care about keeping the inside clean.

August 4, 2011 at 6:49 a.m.
WhitePineVol said...

Nothing like the smell of very strong and fresh bowel movement while you're trying to enjoy the $30 steak you ordered at dinner.

August 4, 2011 at 8:15 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Ahhhh, the "Stinky City", what a topic.

I can't imagine that this is really news though, any more than a headline stating that the sky is blue on a clear day.

August 4, 2011 at 8:20 a.m.
minddoc said...

Having worked downtown (in the Market and 4th Street area) for more than 8 years, I would dread the days where I could already smell the stench as I passed through I-24 and Rossville Blvd. A maintenance person took me for a little "tour" underneath the building I worked in (for those who don't know, most of downtown Chattanooga is built on top of old buildings to elevate it to a level that wouldn't flood every time the river rose). Underneath this building is another world, which, although fascinating from a historical perspective, is, quite literally, dripping with raw sewage. The "infrastructure" problem is more than just the combined storm and sewer lines - it is pipes that have cracks and gaping holes where the sewage leaks (or, when it rains, it pours) out. Many of us wrote letters about the smell to the City going back to 2003 as our concern was not just the nauseating stench but the potential health consequences of exposure to the raw sewage. The only response we received was that the "odor" was only a problem on certain days. True, but when it is present 80% of the time (and higher than that in the summer), that is little consolation and certainly doesn't solve the problem. And I never saw (or rather smelled) any benefit from those "deodorant" tablets. Thank God I no longer work downtown-I am in a much nicer area that is a fraction of the cost of downtown rental space with the added bonus of no smell! Chattanooga, get your head out of your...sewers...and FIX this problem!

August 4, 2011 at 8:27 a.m.

I have worked downtown for several years and I have only gotten a whiff of raw sewage once or twice. Once or twice is bad enough, but far more frequently what I smell walking to the office is chicken stink. It's the exact same smell you get when you're unfortunate enough to be stuck behind a chicken truck heading up Broad St. Southside is awash in chicken stink, and the attempts to deodorize it smells like chicken stink and urinal cake.

August 4, 2011 at 8:39 a.m.
missyhopey said...

Downtown smells do not seem to affect New Orleans tourism.

August 4, 2011 at 8:45 a.m.
sbm362 said...

Just another uppity Yankee.

I hate to break the news to him, but New York doesn't exactly smell like flowers. I've been there several times and always thought it smelled like an old lady farted through an onion. Then again, that's just me.

August 4, 2011 at 8:48 a.m.
inquiringmind said...
  1. The city Wednesday blamed hot weather, dry conditions and aging sewer infrastructure for the odor, which waste officials have tried to mask in recent years by dropping large deodorant blocks into manholes.

  2. "One of the symptoms of success is having detractors," he said. "This isn't the kind of story we want. The city is aware of the issue and working on it from the perspective of what's going to be best for the community at an appropriate cost."

These attitudes are just classic brush it under the table menality and defend the status quo. Since I moved here in 1999, the smell passing downtown on US27, or crossing the Veteran's bridge has been revolting, and try sitting at a ball game sometime when the wind blows right. Cities have been separating their storm and sanitary sewers since at least the 1970's. Atlanta spend billions on theirs in the last decade or so.

Deoderant blocks? Really, who is being played the fool here? A sickenly swet smell over that of excretment...

$400 million is not much to fix what is not just a bad smell but an environmental insult. Surely there is some Federal infrasrucure funding for part of it. Oh, wait a minute, Rep. Fleishmann and his tea party traitors trashed all that...

Everything is tied together in a complicated web. We might have to pay the bil ourselves, but $400 million, for a population of (I am guessing) 200,000 works out to $2,000 a person, say amorized over 10 years for about $300-$400/person per year, or what, $30/mo on your water bill? Taking women and children into acount may be twice that asuming no grants, Federal, private or industrial, are available.

August 4, 2011 at 8:49 a.m.
aspen77 said...

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I suspect there is some liberal agenda behind this article. I'm sure it doesn't make them too happy that VW brought their company to a right-to-work state since they are in bed with the unions. They would love to tarnish the city's name. But this article is SUCH A JOKE! I have lived in both New York and New Jersey and I have never smelled anything in Chattanooga that can compare to what I have smelled up there, and on a much bigger scale. But the article is intended to target people who are unaware of this fact.

August 4, 2011 at 8:55 a.m.
dogdays22 said...

at least he didn't go near the chicken plants!

August 4, 2011 at 8:57 a.m.
Carl said...

And, let's take a drive by one of the chicken processing plants on a hot day!

August 4, 2011 at 9 a.m.
timbo said...

No amount of deodarant tablets will hide the stench of the $500 million debt for downtown. The smell is magnified by the fact that we according to a 2005 article by Dave Flessner that the debt service on the downtown is 9 million per year and the tax collections are around 2 million. For those of you who are math challenged it will take about 100 years to pay it off.

Yea, the stink increased with the VW deal. Another stupid boondoggle by these amateurs running this place. Another $700,000 the other day for rail sightings .

They are stealing money from all the small struggling business to give to the third richest car company in the world that then send it to Germany in profits. When will it stop!!!!!!!

August 4, 2011 at 9:01 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

The sewer odors are a problem, but I bet the poor guy also got a big whiff of the slaughterhouse on Broad St. It’s truly gross and completely ruins the Southside.

August 4, 2011 at 9:01 a.m.
fairmon said...

No worries, the city council will explain and defend the deficiency. Much easier than addressing the problem which is more than combined run off and sewer lines. We can't give up funding of arts and crafts and similar spending to fix a fundamental problem that gets worse with growth.

Would it be asking too much for the city to sell the city owned non tax paying businesses that compete with those privately owned and their vast real estate holdings and use the revenue to correct the sewer problem?

August 4, 2011 at 9:04 a.m.
fairmon said...

Identifying other cities with worse odor problems doesn't make ours OK. New York, Baltimore and others are very noticeable to visitors while residents don't notice it because to them it is normal. People living near a paper mill don't notice the rotten egg smell we all react to when passing near one. Visitors to Chattanooga often have that "WHEW, what is that smell" reaction.

August 4, 2011 at 9:14 a.m.
riverstronghold said...

Could be i'm math challenged, but if debt service (amount paid on a debt per period)is $9m /year and income (taxes) is $2m a year, we're going into further debt $7m per year (more than 3x income)?

Really? In 100 years, it wouldn't be paid off, rather we would owe $700m at that point. Hmmm...This may not all be correct and complete info? And/or maybe more of us than just me is math challenged?

Much of downtown's redevelopment has been paid for with private dollars that taxpayers never did anything but enjoy the benefits of and somewhat poorly manage some of their (our) own projects that were part of the combined effort (The Passage, for instance). Much of the rest of it was financed and completed with designated dollars on schedule with financing retired at project completion. Our people have done very much very well.

I don't know what the solution to this stinky problem is, but i know this: this problem is clearly a public one which needs public solution for public benefit...in the sunshine, with public participation, informative, respectful, enthusiastically effective public servants in leadership and line positions, and electoral accountability for administration of public services.

One of the challenges to public support for combining governments locally is the reluctance of the public to trust elected officials enough to wish to give them more consolidated power. At least now when corruption is uncovered, the powers that exercise it don't exercise all the power they could if city and county powers were combined, the thinking goes.

This looks like a custom made opportunity for city and county leaders to work together on a long range mutual benefit capital investment plan to fix our sewer issues. There are distinct issues in the urban core and the suburban growth areas that will be challenging to resolve, but which are essential to long term sustainable and profitable growth. Along the way to solving these challenges we (the public) can observe carefully to figure out what structures and people can work together and what changes might benefit the public the most in effective, transparent, cost-effective, and cooperative solutions to challenging problems. Maybe a metro government would be best. Maybe that can be demonstrated. But the polarized complaints of philosophical opponents is less persuasive to the public than plain talk, pictures, numbers, and real solutions we can all gather around.

A lot of things that stink could be improved by such an approach. Urinal cakes are good too, but our city isn't a urinal, or shouldn't be allowed to be one forever because we can't acknowledge, quantify, or discuss the problem or cooperate to solve it. Let's move on to more advanced problems, and more effective solutions. Please.

August 4, 2011 at 9:39 a.m.
aspen77 said...

I think the odor problem should be addressed, but it is irrelevant when it comes to VW. The point in making the comparison to other cities is to say that Chattanooga is certainly not a less desirable place to put a company like VW than many other cities, which the author of the article seems to be implying. In my opinion it is a much more desirable city and obviously VW felt the same.

August 4, 2011 at 9:56 a.m.
sweetdream20 said...

A NEW YORK magazine writer complaining about the smell? "The not so sweet smell of success" Right! Tell him to wash his clothes before he packs them. All cities have smells, New York not the least of them. The city has been trying to work on the sewer systems. Kitman came here looking for something to insult and he did exactly that. Here is at least one web blog http://cartalk.com/blogs/jamie-kitman/?m=201102 where Kitman slams VW with insult upon insult for building in Chattanooga and the new Passat. The guy has a personal vendetta against VW, and we're sitting in the crosshairs. Yes there may be a smell, but we'll take care of that. Unfortunately we can't keep the trash from coming back. How's that "aah" fresh air in nyc feel today?

August 4, 2011 at 10:03 a.m.
sig4ever2 said...

While a New Yorker talking about smell is certainly "the pot calling the kettle black", this only points to a marketing and media truism: bad news travels much faster and is read with greater fascination than good news.

Chattanooga has done a lot of things right. Among them are cleaning up its air pollution, rebuilding and developing its water front, building a beautiful river walk, and most recently, building a world-class fiber optic network to deliver crystal clear television to the home and the fastest internet speeds in the country.

Yet all of this can easily be disparaged by the olfactory nerve of a visiting journalist who happens to have a couple of awards for his work hanging on the wall in his office.

Especially embarrassing is the fact that Chattanooga lauds itself as being an environmentally friendly city. This rude observation blackens the eye of those who clamor on about how green we are, and should serve as a springboard to prioritize this as a high priority problem that needs to be reckoned with.

Ironically, repairing the problem will require tearing up the streets and sidewalks and causing great inconvenience to those who try to conduct business in our fair city, but we must all grin and bear it until the work gets done. So lets get to it. Even if we can only afford to do it in stages, a realistic effort needs to begin and begin very soon.

In the meanwhile VW, there are a significant number of hotel rooms closer to your plant in the Hamilton Place area where the air and the infrastructure may be more pleasing to the senses of visiting friends - rude or otherwise.

August 4, 2011 at 10:10 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 said: "People living near a paper mill don't notice the rotten egg smell we all react to when passing near one. Visitors to Chattanooga often have that "WHEW, what is that smell" reaction."

What you say might be true for those who reside next door or within a few blocks of a problem area, but beyond this I don’t believe your theory applies. My point is that it’s not just visitors who say WHEW when it comes to these stinky odors.

August 4, 2011 at 10:14 a.m.
sweetdream20 said...

I just wanted to add that I would like to see the chicken processing plant moved to a more rural area (and something done about the stink from plants near the river bend as well). Relocating that plant and looking into the cause of the other factory smells might be a start.

August 4, 2011 at 10:21 a.m.
timbo said...

sweetdream20.. It is not your fault you are ignorant. The main source of sewage smell is sewage, fecal material, caused by humans. Any "factory smell" is insignificant because there is nothing downtown any more. They already ran them off. Again, I forgive you for your ignorance but I Bet you don't know the top 4 polluters in the Chattanooga area do you? It ain't the evil manufacturers. It is, in this order... 1. Your smelly car fumes. 2. Your smelly gas station that emits gas fumes all day. 3. Your stinky restaurants that emit smoke and vegetable oil fumes all day. Aren't there 40 or fifty downtown right now? 4. Your smelly body shops, cabinet shops, etc. 5. Your smelly hind end that emits a fecal material that then turns in to green house gases. Why don't you have it sowed up to "save the planet." Then I guess you really would be full of ..... Industry is way down the list. So get your facts straight before you blame us evil, immoral manufacturers. If you want to see who is responsible. **LOOK IN THE MIRROR. It is all consumer businesses, not industry. Get it right.**

August 4, 2011 at 10:42 a.m.
bryseana said...

He's from New York? lol

Maybe a clean smell is foreign.

August 4, 2011 at 10:43 a.m.

Well... it's true folks. Our city sits in a bowl surrounded by mountains and ridges and on those hot hazy and humid summer days the winds cannot carry the odor away.

And too often we can smell the delightful combination of petroleum plant, sewage, and Moon Pies from Moccasin Bend.

Now, who was complaining about the cold winter?

August 4, 2011 at 10:53 a.m.
hushmymouth said...

Four hundred mil. to update the waste water system would be a small price to pay to combat the bad press. They could just take it from the school system's budget since it seems unlikely they'll have to buy out another school superintendent's contract for a while.

August 4, 2011 at 11:25 a.m.
timbo said...

Riverstronghold... EXCUSEEEE...MEEEEEEE! It will only take 71.4257 years. I don't want to exaggerate. No one does that on this page do they? It couldn't be what you just wrote. You said,

"Much of downtown's redevelopment has been paid for with private dollars that taxpayers never did anything but enjoy the benefits of and somewhat poorly manage some of their (our) own projects that were part of the combined effort (The Passage, for instance). Much of the rest of it was financed and completed with designated dollars on schedule with financing retired at project completion. Our people have done very much very well."

That is not just exaggerating, that is an outright lie. There are actually two THP articles by Flessner that verify the debt for downtown. Private money was a drop in the bucket and only used to control the bulk of money that was public. This is not my first rodeo ole buddy. It should have all been private money if it was such a good investment but it wasn't. That is why the taxpayer was the only one flapping in the wind with your "private" people profiting.

From your tone and the way you express yourself it is pretty obvious that you work for a government entity or tax sucking non-profit like River City.

August 4, 2011 at 11:32 a.m.
eastridge8 said...

WE smell worse than NYC??? NO WAY!!! NYC smells like rotten garbage all day, every day, because it's sitting on it's curbsides along with dog poop!!

August 4, 2011 at 11:38 a.m.
kitdoc said...

Looks like timbo had a big bowl of grumpy flakes this morning. Unfortunately timbo, you missed sweetdream20, mountainlaurel and Pickles_Mcfinger's point--most people know the difference between the smell of methane from sewage and rotting chicken guts. The smell from the chicken processing plant on South Broad is simply disgusting!

August 4, 2011 at 12:45 p.m.
grease said...

Now we know why the Mayor wants to annex outlying areas....he needs a larger tax base before undertaking this project.

August 4, 2011 at 12:56 p.m.
timbo said...

Sorry, I did get up on the wrong side of the bed.

August 4, 2011 at 1:09 p.m.
cbinflux said...

Note to the Choo Choo Engineering Dept: Insituform's mold and cure in-place liners can solve most of this problem.

August 4, 2011 at 1:24 p.m.

When the stench reaches a point where it overpowers the northern part of downtown, which it frequently does, that's not just the pipes in the ground. It is coming directly from the entire operation at the sewerage treatment plant. The last two times we took in a Lookouts game, we just about choked. Nothing like eating a hot dog, drinking a beer, surrounded by the smell of s#$t.

August 4, 2011 at 1:36 p.m.
Munkmunk said...

The smell of RockTenn and the waste treatment plant at Moccasin Bend account for a lot of the odors around the riverfront. Not sure if anyone has mentioned those places but it's true.

August 4, 2011 at 3:49 p.m.
NoMyth said...

Yes, downtown Chattanooga does smell terrible and worse than New York. Chattanooga has been sued by the federal government to invest in its sewer system. New York has not. It is quite shocking that little is being done about it...and people are still complaining about increases in their bills that are to address the problem. Time to join the 20th century, Chattanooga...let alone the 21st!

August 4, 2011 at 7:58 p.m.
sunshine411 said...

You all are criticizing the reporter, the council, the city and more, but here's the thing: Chattanooga's air quality is horrible. Those with allergies suffer greatly and something needs to be done about it. The aging sewer system contributes to this. The air quality will affect population numbers. For instance, when my husband retires, we plan to leave Chattanooga--a city we both love-- because I can't handle the constant fog I am in from allergies caused by the poor air quality.

Tourism and population numbers will be affected if something is not done about the sewers and the overall air quality. That's a fact and a very sad one, because Chattanooga is a fantastic city.

August 4, 2011 at 8:42 p.m.
328Kwebsite said...

If I remember right, it was only about a year ago that raw sewage came spewing up through manhole covers in Coolidge Park. Tens of thousands of gallons spilled.

I think Mayor Littlefield responded by suggesting that everyone who ignored the problem receive a tax break. Meanwhile, the uncontained sewage seeped around into the ground and river.

Fortunately, only middle class kids play there.

I know I decided against buying real estate on the Southside solely because of the stench of that chicken slaughterhouse. The smell of rotting blood and entrails in the summer is just too much to bring a wife and kids home to. I'm surprised we don't have ordinances against foul odors like that.

I'm also surprised that anyone would run a business where they expected employees to work under those conditions without some serious effort at mitigating that problem. Apparently, they just don't give a damn about anything other than their profit.

Of course, the ADM flour mill next to the Free Press probably couldn't meet basic air quality standards, either. There's another skyscraper filled with rotten food in the summer; it only seems to stink as it gets empty, though. It belches rotten flour dust that settles in a thin film on anything that doesn't move in the summer. Right about that time the rats diffuse from the silos through the area to reproduce in the favorable weather.

They probably get a tax break from Republicans.

Add in the sewer treatment plant on Moccassin Bend and the propane leaks from the tank farm across from 2 North Shore and the posh but unsellable One North Shore condos, and the Unmentionable Stink List is almost complete.

I am surprised that astute Republican real estate tycoons seeking to be politico bigwigs in town haven't lied to the public about someone else's property stinking. Maybe the Republicans own all of the big stinkers around here.

If only there was a way we could disparage poor minorities, schoolteachers and the police, at the same time, for stinky real estate, then we could get a PR job with Mayor Littlefield's administration.

I'm surprised Manny Rico hasn't shouted out that everything smells great at the Republican Chamber of Commerce. They have the cleanest money laundering in town. April fresh websites for only $328,000.

Well, there's plenty of stinking to go around. As soon as I heard about this story, I thought the real stink was about trying to persuade people to spend or not spend money. It's all about influence, and none about the actual problem of the stink.

August 4, 2011 at 10:43 p.m.
fiberopguy said...

It has smelled like hot runny shiit since I was a kid . Always stinks way bad on my way to work in the mornings it seems.

August 4, 2011 at 10:49 p.m.
dao1980 said...

That's a funny illustration fiberopguy.

Nothing like the dank wafting of some Chatty style H.R.S. to start the day off right!

August 5, 2011 at 7:41 a.m.
eastridge8 said...

WHEW!!!

August 5, 2011 at 11:46 a.m.
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