published Sunday, August 7th, 2011

Chattanooga man dies during surgery after being shot in back

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The night after Charles McCaine died during emergency surgery at a Chattanooga hospital, city police had no new information to release on the shooting that took his life.

Police spokesman Nathan Hartwig said in an email at 9:10 a.m. Saturday that McCaine was shot in the back during a home invasion at 2508 Latta St. about 1:30 a.m. He said police are looking for three suspects.

No new information was available at 8:30 p.m. Saturday.

Seven houses cluster on Latta Street. The house where McCaine was shot was dark and no one answered a knock on the door. One window was shattered and a pink-and-purple tricycle lay in the yard.

Court records show McCaine had been found guilty of burglary, theft and domestic assault in 2007, 2008 and 2009, respectively. He also had a string of lesser drug and traffic charges.

Detectives ask that anyone with information about the three suspects call the police department at 423-698-2525.

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328Kwebsite said...

Look at the "two line" and consider deleting the placeholder text. Thanks.

August 7, 2011 at 5:15 a.m.
LibDem said...

Sometimes bad things happen to bad people.

August 7, 2011 at 9:30 a.m.
amnestiUSAF84 said...

LibDem, and sometimes bad things happen to good people. There's really no connection between an individual's character and what can happen to them.

jack, living in certain parts of the city, it's near impossible to avoid being arrested. Especially when the individual is a minority male. Some arrests maybe warranted and some are to meet quotas. Certain groups in the city are easier targets for arrests.

August 7, 2011 at 11:21 a.m.
Veritas said...

One less THUG on the streets of Chattanooga but many more to go.

August 7, 2011 at 12:33 p.m.
allGODSchildren said...

Indian if you read more on the arrest instead of just counting the number of times the individual was arrested, you'll notice that many of those arrests were ridiculous, unnecessary and that's why they were dismissed. Likely made so the arresting officers could spend the rest of their shift playing footsies and spend time with their other family. ;)

Many of those the police prey on are poor and, therefore, do not know any dismissed charges can be expunged, but they have to take the initiative and get the record expunged themselves. That's where some of these local organziations like the NAACP and others could come in handy and reach out to these young men. Holding classes. Teaching and explaining to them how to go about such things as getting a record expunged. Records are not automatically expunged when a case is dismissed. Although, the courts will often tell the individual their record will be expunged. The individuals still have to go about getting the record expunged themselves.

August 7, 2011 at 12:43 p.m.
LibDem said...

There's actually a very strong connection between a person's character and what happens to him.

August 7, 2011 at 12:52 p.m.
amnestiUSAF84 said...

LibDem, so you're saying a child molested by the molester is somehow at fault? A rape victim somehow asked to be raped? The individual who comes down with cancer is being punished because somehow his/her character is flawed? Victims of serial killers, mass murderers are at fault because they crossed paths with the serial killer and mass murderer? For someone who goes by the screen name LibDem, your observation is troubling.

From the very first time an individual, especially a poor minority individual, is arrested he becomes an easier target for police to make future arrests. Looking at Mr. McCains earlier arrests, note how those arrests were quite minor and actually unnecessary.

From that first arrest everything goes downhill and escalates. What the African-American community needs to do, instead of begging for more police who only see them as a smorgasboard to meet quotas, is to do whatever they can, especially for their young males, is to protect them in the first place. Otherwise, they're nothing more than job security for police.

August 7, 2011 at 3:12 p.m.
LibDem said...

Your words, amnestiUSAF84, "There's really no connection between an individual's character and what can happen to them." An excellent lesson for youngsters.

August 7, 2011 at 3:36 p.m.
amnestiUSAF84 said...

Lib, I was only responding to your implication that bad things only happen to bad people. Bad things also happen to good people. And some really really bad people have gotten away with committing atrocities. Furthermore, some innocent and good people have ended up on deathrow.

The point being, good or bad, things happen. Regardless of a person's character.

August 7, 2011 at 4:48 p.m.
LibDem said...

"Sometimes bad things happen to bad people." That's rather precisely what I said.

August 7, 2011 at 5:01 p.m.
fedup350 said...

amnestiUSAF84 he was killed because he was a criminal. Your statement that his character played no part in his murder is utterly ridiculous. Just like the last drug dealer that got home invaded and killed and his girlfriend shot. It was because the suspects were looking for drugs or drug money. He was killed BECAUSE of his character. I find it outragEous that you and others that share your mind set were so upset that 3 white drunken idiots were calling names and throwing fircrackers, "call in the Feds" you and yours said, but when blacks are killed by other blacks you say ho hum, could have happened to anybody. Except for allGODSchildren and he or she blames the white man because the black drug dealers are killing each other.

allGODSchildren your post is so far out it is laughable. You belong in the "perpetual victim" catogory. Instead of minorities taking responsibilites for there actions you say "oh they were black, it is the ol' bad Polices fault, It cant be our fault because we are black. hence the "perpetual victim". I would bet money that you, allGODSchildren, are living in subsidized housing, are eating off of an EBT card and have a free minute phone, no job AND a large flat screen TV in your house with an XBOX with countless games. I grew up poor as dirt with many siblings in a BAD part of town and NONE of us were ever arrested, we all have jobs, so much for you "bad part of town garuntees an arrest theory".

August 7, 2011 at 8:52 p.m.
amnestiUSAF84 said...

"call in the Feds" you and yours said the black drug dealers are killing each other.

fedup350, we see you're at your usual rambling, incoherent self again. I had nothing to do with calling in the feds. Nor did I personally suggest it. I just didn't speak against it. As for black drug dealers killing each other, white drug dealers are doing the same.

OH, btw/I'm not black. One of those gotcha moments? Ha! ha!

Another, GOTCHA: I've never lived in subsidized housing. Never had a need for an EBT card, whatever that is. Along with the rest of your senseless rhetoric. Don't own an XBOX. Although, I could if I wanted. Have owned my own business for several decades. That is after having made a career of Serving MY country**.

However, I'll never be the one to look down my nose at those who do live in government housing or use an EBT card. You're such the bitter synic.

You should be more worried about those CEOs who've brought jet planes and several mansion, compliments of yours and my tax dollars than worrying about someone who may have an XBOX or big screen TV purchased from a pawn shop.

Did you know Community Kitchen and other organizations have been known to give away TVs, furniture and other items to individuals to help homeless and other individuals transition into their living quarters? Giving away complete dining room sets, with china cabinet included. I know, I've donated several items over the years myself.

The Bible says: Judge NOT! For that way in which you judge another, so shall ye' also be judged.

August 7, 2011 at 10:49 p.m.
LibDem said...

amnestiUSAF84, read before you respond.

August 8, 2011 at 7:57 a.m.
sangaree said...

So much hatred in America. There's no need for anyone to travel thousands of miles to destroy the nation. There's enough hatred and division within for America to collapse and implode upon itself. So sad.

August 8, 2011 at 2:13 p.m.
dao1980 said...

I don't understand the "shot in back two line" part of this headline.

What's a "two line" anyways... is that slang for something?

August 8, 2011 at 2:22 p.m.
LibDem said...

dao1980: 328Kwebsite says it's a printing instruction, a placeholder. Beyond my vast newspaper experience.

August 8, 2011 at 2:49 p.m.
dao1980 said...

Hmm, interesting. Though not as interesting as it could have been.. were it new slang stylee of some sort.

Thanks for the info LibDem & 328Kweb.

August 8, 2011 at 3:14 p.m.
fedup350 said...

amnestiUSAF84 how many "gotcha" moments do you want? You have told me that you are white several times now, "Gotcha"? I dont think so. It doesnt matter anyway, I dont care if you are purple and polka dot. If you are an able bodied poerson living in subsidized housing and eating off of an EBT card then you are a worthless tick on society. If the show fits then were it, black or white. Let me see, there have been 17 black on black killings IN CHATTANOOGA this year alone. Not 17 white on white killings, quit making excises. They are worthless drug dealers killing each other. You argument holds no water. As usual with a liberal if anyone disagrees with them then they are rambling. Furthermore, even someon as liberal as you doesnt really believe that evrery big screen TV in the projects was given to them by the community kitchen, if you really believe that then you are either the most naive person in the world or an idiot. Which is it? I reraly dont care about what ypou own or how you got it. Why would I/ Why would you even tell the world? No one cares. Again, if you are an able bodied person living in subsidized housing and eatimng off of a ebt card then you are a leech on socety and I am tired of the Gybment taking my hard earned taxes and giving it to worthless people. Oh and the next time you respond to me, and I hope you do, try not to get any more "gotcha" moments. yopu have told us all several times you are white and again I couldnt care less...

August 8, 2011 at 5:27 p.m.
macropetala8 said...

"even someon as liberal as you doesnt really believe that evrery big screen TV in the projects was given to them by the community kitchen"

But they could have rented it from a rental center.

I wholeheartedly agree with sangaree. There's just far too much bitterness and hatred. What's that old saying Anne Landers or Dear Abby often said: "Hate is like acid. It destroys the container that holds it." fedup350 stop being so bitter and hateful. You're only hurting yourself. The poor always makes for an easier target than going after the real culprits screwing the taxpayers. The filthy rich. Only a fraction or less of our tax dollars actually go to help the poor.

In fact, public housing was originally created for whites. Mostly soldiers returning from World War II and getting poor white farmers into the city and factories. More so, with the exception of one public housing projects in Chattanooga {now torn down Poss Homes}, all local public housing projects originally were built for Chattanooga's white population. Poor blacks had to live in shanty like dwellings like those sometimes seen in South Africa apartheid era.

Poss Homes apartments built to make way for the freeways that were to be built in the area. Some black citizens who owned a home or property lost what they owned through imminent dormain, I think. This started in or around 1959 or 1960.Some say even they, Poss Homes, were originally built for whites, but they didn't want to live in such close proximinity to blacks. So the new apartments were hand-me-downed to blacks, like Howard School is said to have been originally built for whites who turned down the school, because they didn't want their children to attend school in a predominantely black area. Hence: Both Howard, although built before Poss Homes and by default, became the very first NEW anything blacks every had a chance at back then.

For decades, East Lake, Harriet Tubman(originally Boone Hysinger), Alton Park had only white tenants. No blacks were allowed to live in public housing.

August 8, 2011 at 7:32 p.m.
2fedup25 said...

My Family did not deserve to die no matter what he did he never hurt anyone he has always believed in God and owned up to his mistakes he also was taken to soon from his twin brother and his 3year old daughter and Jack for your information what u did in ur past does not make u liable for death u a-hole im sorry for my language but im pissed cause instead of trying to find out whos out here committed all of these senseless crimes people are sitting around talking about the deceased Rip My Brother Its in GODs Hands Now.

August 8, 2011 at 8:40 p.m.
amnestiUSAF84 said...

2fedup25, Please accetp my condolences. I'm truly sorry for your loss. Please don't pay attention to the anger, hateful and insensitive comments here. These individual hearts are so darken with hatred that they will one day explode because of it.

To: fedup350. Or maybe you'd prefer lady Mc'F'350? The tea party, which has been heavily financed by Murdoch and the Koch brothers, is not a friend of the working people. You're all, working tea partiers included, are being had. Once these wealthy individuals get their way they'll drop all of you like a scalding hot potato.

They feed the naive with this gullible hate talk and you guys pick it up and run with it. Not realizing how disdain they hold from anyone who's not of their class.

fedup, or Mi' LadyF, you're too naive to realize how much your own livlihood relies on taxes. You're naive to immediately assume that people living in public housing do not work, do not pay taxes. They do. You're naive to assume that neighbor living next door to you might not be receiving some kind of government assistance.

When I briefly, very briefly, worked with a state agency, many of my clients did not live in public housing of any kind. They were primarliy white rural and suburbanites. They lived in fine homes and drove even finer cars. But things can happen. An illness. A child born with a serious deformity. A job loss that can throw an individual off budget within only a couple of months. As the old saying goes, most all are one paycheck from living in the streets.

People don't receive public assistance or get to live in public housing because they don't have a job or are on a fixed income. They qualify for assistance when their salaries fall below the poverity line which, I think in today's market, might be around 30K, dependant upon household size. There are military persons who qualify and receive foodstamps and other government assistance. This does not include their military paycheck.

I don't care what you think of me. I know my heart is pure, honorable and right. I don't care if you think I'm white, blue, red, brown, yellow or a combination of all.

No matter what you think, we're going to always pay taxes. No matter what the GOP and tea party instills in their diehard followers, you'll never have controll over how or where those taxes go.

I'm not so naive as to believe there aren't those who take advantage of the system. Even corporate America takes more advantage of the system than you might think. But my conscious is more settled on those who do need. On those corporate CEOs and the likes who are honorable. Should we deny all poor based on what some might be doing? I think not! Should we deny all companies that apply for federal help in times of need because some CEOs are crooks? Again, I think not!

August 8, 2011 at 9:18 p.m.
amnestiUSAF84 said...

continued:

fedup, My Lady:

I can't change your mind, and you can't change mine. I'm going to continue giving every chance I get. I'm going to continue paying my taxes, regardless. If I have to pay a little more to help America get back on its feet without cutting programs for those in need, I'll pay more taxes. I sleep well at night. My conscious is clear.

I enjoy the quirks my tax dollar provides. Such as paved streets, fresh water, jobs and subsidies to companies that ordinarily wouldn't hire individuals in the past because of their color. I enjoy when I get up in the mornings all I have to do is turn on a light switch and I have light. Plug in the coffee pot for electricity. Just about everything you, I and your fellow taxpying complainers complain about, are subsidized in some way through federal funds. You'd be surprised that your own job, livlihood is federally funded. And if ever the poor are knocked down, you'll just find yourself taking their place.

Good night. Hope you don't let that hateful eat you up. For me, at least, the subject is closed. END!

August 8, 2011 at 9:19 p.m.
fedup350 said...

amnestiUSAF84 lets me guess..you are white! I wouldnt have guessed. Why didnt you tell me sooner? I guess you got me huh? Why is everything about race to you? I dont care if you are white or black i really dont. If you want to pay more taxes to worthles non working leeches then be my guest, have at it. Words are cheap. I bet you are not as benevollent as you proclaim. If so get out of you easy chair and go to the projects. See how many people, able bodied mena and women are sitting on the stoop in the middel of the day drinking beer. Oh but you would have to get off of the computer and out of the air condtioing to do that. You are the naive one. You dont have a clue what goes on in the real world and you like all the other liberals dont mind giving other peoples money away. The "right" path? Your path is destroying our country, amking everyone think they cant make it without the govt's help. I pay my taxes to pay for things like roads, police, schools and such not to a leech who wont get a job? You know what is funny? All those unemployed "poor" people living in the projecst and eating off of EBY cards and just a short distance away are factories filled with hispanics because they cant give away jobs to those "poor" underprivaledged people you sit in your cahir spouting off about. This is America though and you are entitled to you opinion and so I am. The dofference between us is that you are so arrogant as to think mine doesnt count. I look forward to countering your msiguided posts

August 9, 2011 at 2:35 p.m.
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