published Monday, August 15th, 2011

Cook: My heroes are gay, disabled and obese

This column is dedicated to each and every Hamilton County high school student who doesn’t fit in.

School began five days ago. For some, the August-to-May calendar feels more like survival than education, especially if you are a student who is not attracted to the opposite sex, or whose body doesn’t work or look the way you wish it did.

So if you are gay, disabled or obese, I’d like to add another word to your identity: hero.

“National research tells us that the populations of students that are disproportionately targeted for bullying are gay and lesbian, obese and disabled students,” said Karen Glenn, STARS executive director who oversees Hamilton County’s anti-bullying programming.

As a teen, enduring the violence of taunts and threats is heroic work. Obese teenagers suffer higher rates of suicidal depression. Gay teens are five times more likely to commit suicide, recent studies show.

“Our schools are focused on having safe environments,” Glenn said. “We train school personnel to recognize the signs and respond quickly.”

Bullying can cause alienated teens to create a survival map of sorts: which hallways are safe, which students are not, which teachers are allies and which turn a blind eye.

How to dodge words as poisonous as rattlesnakes.

“I was told I would die and go to hell. I’ve had death threats before,” said Loxley Landrum, 15, and openly gay. Loxley, who used to attend Loftis Middle, told me during our phone interview that she was called “a faggot” while at school.

“It was torturous,” said her mother, Beana Landrum. “We sought counseling. We switched schools.”

To counteract bullying, many U.S. schools have created Gay-Straight Alliances. Designated as a club, GSAs allow gay and straight kids to form community, solidarity and understanding.

By the end of the year, there ought to be a GSA in every school in Hamilton County.

Twice last week I emailed the nine Hamilton County school board members, asking their opinion about the idea. I heard from only one.

“Any form of bullying is unacceptable,” said District 6 board member Joe Galloway. “In all of my years in education, I have never had student or parent address this issue … with me.”

I wonder what our city’s church leaders would say.

“Jesus didn’t say jack about homosexuality,” said the Rev. Brad Rice. “As a matter of fact, he welcomed everybody to the table.”

Rice, who grew up gay in a hostile Southern Baptist home, is the pastor of The Rock Metropolitan Community Church, a Rossville Boulevard church with more lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered Christians than straight believers. A pastor there for 14 months, Rice gracefully articulates his own journey from religious exclusion to being a beloved — and gay — child of God.

“No one can take away my deeply rooted belief in the radical inclusive and radical hospitable love of God,” he said. “My experience with God has been one of wholeness and healing.”

One of Rice’s congregants is trying to heal our city. I’ll call her Zoe, as she asked me not to print her name. She’s involved in litigation over losing her job because of sexual discrimination.

No laws in Tennessee protect workers from being fired for their sexual orientation. (I spoke with at least two Chattanoogans who have lost jobs, they believe, because their boss discovered they were gay.)

Starting a few weeks ago, Zoe plopped open her Yellow Pages of Chattanooga, thumbed to the section on “Churches,” picked up her phone and began calling every single church in our city.

By my count, that’s 563 churches.

“I invited them to spend one day together in fellowship,” she said. “Regardless of race, age, sexual orientation, let’s have one day where we can accept each other.”

It’s called Hands Across the Lake. Beginning at 10 a.m. on Saturday, Aug. 27, at Lake Winnepesaukah and lasting until the end of the day, the event will offer speakers, free food and live music.

As of last week, Zoe couldn’t name 10 churches that had agreed to come.

But they should. There should be miles of Christians lined up for the Cannonball roller coaster that Saturday. Because every human in this city — gay, straight, obese, star athlete, disabled or deaf — should never, not once, feel like a leper, an outcast for being who they are.

“I want them to know there is support. I embrace them fully as they are,” said Rice. “This is not a Miss America answer. I mean every word.”

Maybe that’s what it means to be a hero: saying such words, and also believing them.

David Cook can be reached at davidcook@blumail.org.

about David Cook...

David Cook is the award-winning city columnist for the Times Free Press, working in the same building where he began his post-college career as a sportswriter for the Chattanooga Free Press. Cook, who graduated from Red Bank High, holds a master's degree in Peace and Justice Studies from Prescott College and an English degree from the University of Tennessee at Knoxville. For 12 years, he was a teacher at the middle, high school and university ...

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Boo hoo hoo! Cry babies! Toughen up, you homosexuals. You want to change the definition of normal, be prepared for a fight. You'll never win that battle! Nobody stopping you from doing what you want. You've got the government machine and the hollywood machine backing you up. What more do you want? I think you need to leave us, the normal people, alone. Stop harassing us by finding ways to punish us for not accepting your definition of normal.

August 15, 2011 at 11:46 a.m.

And it is reasons like yours above that warrant such an article to be written. Besides, the main crux of the article was to build awareness of the students around us. If this article helps to save lives while building up humanity's care for each other, then so be it.

August 15, 2011 at 12:37 p.m.
Underhillguy said...

Well now here we are with an article about bullying and one that crosses the great divide of human bullying and we have one person who wants to blame all the bullying on GLBTQ's as cry babies who need to toughen up. I really would like to see a person such as the commentator who tells GLBT's to toughen up go back to being 15 and go to school as a GBLTQ or better yet as a obese handicapped person and see what it is like to be bullied. Then tell folks to toughen up. Bullying is not just about the GLBTQ community it is a country wide problem against anyone who is different and for this commentator to just grab the GLBTQ aspect out of this story is profoundly why we have bullying a crossed our country and well as discrimination and hate!

August 15, 2011 at 12:50 p.m.
keithlandrum said...

@ Chattanoogatennesseeusa – I suppose you advocate bullying and violence toward anyone who doesn’t fit your subjective definition of what normal is, which is exactly the point this article is making. Ignorant children, like yourself, abusing others because of who they are. “Nobody stopping you from doing what you want.” What? Like marriage and equal rights that every American deserves? Actually, the “government machine” as you call it, only recognizes same sex marriage in 7 of the 50 states. So yeah, there are 43 U.S. states that are stopping gay and lesbian couples from doing what they want, which is to be treated equally. Because they are human. The “Hollywood machine backing you up?” Really? I don’t even know what point you’re trying to make with that statement. Who is being punished for being what you consider normal? And how are they being punished? How are you being harassed? When commenting on an article about bullying gay, disabled, or obese children and calling them cry babies, perhaps you should play some other useless card in your deck, because your victim card just isn’t cutting it.

August 15, 2011 at 1:16 p.m.
keninchatt said...

chattanoogatennesseeusa, what is normal? We are all created uniquely by God. You attitude creates an atmosphere of hatred and animosity, if THAT is what you call normal, I choose to be different. I choose love, acceptance, and unity, because I believe these attitudes will make Chattanooga an even better place to live and tommorow a better future for our young people! Thank you to the TimesFreepress for publishing this article!

August 15, 2011 at 1:36 p.m.
keithlandrum said...

@ tnvolssuckbad- They are heros, in this journalist’s opinion because these kids are taking a stand, sharing their stories with others in order to try to change things. School is a horrible place for them because of bullying. But they still maintain their dignity because they are not ashamed of who they are. Didn’t you read the article?

“If you're fat,then eat less and try putting the remote control down.”

That’s your solution to the obesity epidemic we have in America? That’s all you got? Children as well as adults are obese for many different reasons. There are social, economical, environmental and biological factors at work here. Most of America is obese. And even if it were as simple as putting down the remote, that doesn’t give anyone else the right to bully someone else if they don’t.

“Ever been to the movies and seen a young teenage couple making out and have fond memories of your youth? Now picture looking back and seeing 2 boys making out in a public theater…”

Yeah, I just pictured that. I just pictured living in reality, the world as it presently exists. It wasn’t gross. Is that how you remember your youth? What are you doing sitting in the back row of a movie theater watching teenagers make out? That in itself is pretty gross. How do you play “grabsie”? Is it fun?

“That's all we need is some other "Alliance" to bring to light exactly how wrong homosexuality is.”

Your confused. This is an alliance (why did you put the word in parenthesis?) to bring to light exactly how accepted homosexuality is. It’s natural. It exists in nature among other species as well.

“it's an abomination!”

You mean like Leviticus 11:9-12 ? The abdominal snowman?

http://toddhatten.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/abominable.jpg

August 15, 2011 at 7:03 p.m.
Stewwie said...

[Cook: My heroes are gay, disabled and obese.]

Congratulations. You're officially nuts.

Mr. Cook, no one chooses to be disabled. However, being gay is a choice that some people, unfortunately, choose to become. That said, I don't feel sorry for a gay person like I would feel sorry for a disabled person. It's a completely different scenario.

Yes, bullying is wrong for anyone, but like it or not, it's part of the real world. It's something that everyone needs to just get over. What about the skinny nerd in class who is made fun of? Why isn't he heroic to you? We have all been made fun of for something at some point, but eventually you have to move past that and get on with your life.

[“Jesus didn’t say jack about homosexuality,” said the Rev. Brad Rice. “As a matter of fact, he welcomed everybody to the table.”]

Actually, a more correct statement would be that any comment Jesus may have made about homosexuality while he was on Earth is not recorded in the gospels. It doesn't mean that He never spoke about it, however. Yes are examples/stories of Him mingling with the "sinners," but the whole point of these instances are to lead those folks to eternal life, not just "accept who they are" or simply to hang out.

All of Scripture is God-Breathed, and Jesus is God, so whatever the rest of the Bible says about homosexuality is Jesus' stance on the subject. There are numerous references in the Old and New Testaments condemning this sin as well as other sins. One must repent of his sin in order to be a Christian. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that wrong is wrong and turn away from his evil deeds can't be a Christian. That said, one cannot be gay and a Christian at the same time.

People who call themselves Christians need to open their Bibles and READ it to know the truth!! Mr. Cook, this includes you. Stop trying to create your own idea of God and instead acknowledge who He is as noted by the Scriptures.

August 15, 2011 at 8:35 p.m.
wendyt said...

Wow, it’s so difficult to respond to such ignorant, hate filled, narrow minded people without giving in to that knee jerk reaction to sink to their levels, but let me take a deep breath and try. I guess if tnvolssuckbad and chattanoogatennesseeusa had their collective ways about it, all them coloreds would have stayed in the back of the bus where they belonged. For years people have used God’s word to justify mistreating and oppressing others, and I suppose that will never change. It’s just human nature, isn’t it? There will always be a great number of people who in their hate filled, ignorant actions will strive to oppress, deny and control others. And I wonder, tnvolssuckbad, if you adhere to ALL of the old Leviticus holiness code, or do you pick and chose? As far as if any of us would look back on the memories of our youth and fondly recall “making out” with someone of the same sex: only in a far more enlightened and tolerant world than the one you obviously live in. Additionally, I believe ( big surprise) that your grammar usage is sorely lacking: it should read, “tnvolssuckbadly, not bad. You don’t want people to think that you’re an uneducated hick, now do you? To the respondent, “chattanoogatennesseeusa,” I’m seriously offended at your username. I, for one, don’t want people to think that you’re representative of Chattanoogans as a whole.

August 15, 2011 at 8:53 p.m.
kinch7 said...
 I'll be your huckleberry on the Bible, Mr. Stewwie.  In reality there is not a whole lot said that condemns homosexuality.  There is a verse in Leviticus condemning it along with verses condemning two different kinds of material being worn and a verse condemning the seeding of two different kinds of crops in a field.  In fact, most societies, even Jewish ones, rejected what was recognized to be the laws of ancient Israel.  
 The Lot story that folks love to claim as their own personal "right there" text suggests that rape and violence were the primary evils rather than consensual lust.  Compare Lot's story to Judges 19 and you will see that the common factor in both stories is mob violence and daughters being offered to mollify the mob.  
 It is true that Jesus says not a word about homosexuality, but in the Gospel of Mark there is a mysterious guy who is clad only in a sheet on the night Jesus gets arrested.  He runs off naked.  Apparently, Matthew and Luke did not include that tidbit in their gospels.  I wonder why.  Your own belief in inerrancy and plenary inspiration makes me wonder why God in his infinite homophobia and sovereign influence did not proclaim God’s hatred of homosexuality when he was inspiring hands to write about himself when he was his own son on earth.  There is not a word about it.  Not a word.  Apparently, the early church canonized what they believed to be crucial for the Christian life.  You might as well say Jesus told everyone about galaxies, periodic tables, germs, and predicted the birth of Nostradamus, but it just did not make it into the gospels.    
 Paul speaks of depravity in Romans, and he also advises in his first letter to the Corinthians that it is best that a man have nothing to do with women since the Parousia was from his standpoint any second now...  Well, the “any second now” did not happen then, and with all due respect to Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHay, I seriously doubt the any second now will happen anytime soon; so we better make a just society with what we have.  
What is that?  We have conceived in our Declaration and Constitution a vision of inalienable rights unimagined by ancient Israel, ancient Rome, and ancient Europe (and apparently in the minds of my beloved fellow Southerners).  Conceived therein are rights for Jews and Gentiles, blacks and whites, male and female, straight and gay, and so forth.  
 Indeed, Mr. Stewwie, if you are going to cherry pick your Bible verses, rather than read the books and learn what the books said to the people who read them at the time they were written, then let’s stack your cherries up against all those cherry picked verses about being kind.  Your stack will be much shorter than mine.
August 15, 2011 at 9:45 p.m.
yaffay said...

Thanks, David Cook, for a timely article. You are correct about the issues that face our young people, both in school and in society at large.

August 15, 2011 at 9:46 p.m.
kinch7 said...

As for the excellent article, I've seen the way gay children are treated in school. Are we to believe that children and adults choose who arouses them sexually? I do not recall choosing what aroused me. It just happened. Now, I did choose the act of having sex, but since I have the freedom to choose how to quench my thirst I will not deprive another free person the same freedom just because they do not like the same fire water I enjoy. People do not choose what stirs their natural hormones any more than they choose to prefer pizza over broccoli.
But that is all beside the point. I just cannot believe that we still have in this country a spirit of bigotry that would deprive yet another group of people of their rights not because of the content of their character but because of what they do with their genitals. We expunged racial injustice from our laws. There is only one more group to go. I'll march with gay folks since I was too young to march with Dr. King.

August 15, 2011 at 9:51 p.m.
dlandrum7 said...

I used to be narrow minded, until I actually THOUGHT about it, instead of just reciting what the preacher wanted me to believe. It makes me sick to my stomache to hear the whole gay people "choose" to be gay line. WHY would someone "choose" to be gay? So they're families and society will be ashamed of them? Because they like to be made fun of and bullied at school? So they can lose their job if people find out? So they can't get married or adopt children? Because they like pretending to be straight to make others happy? Where are the incentives here? So why is the suicide rate for gay teens sky high? If they "choose" to be gay wouldn't they just "choose" to be straight instead of committing suicide? And, if sexuality is a "choice", then we're ALL bisexual. How silly to argue with someone on whether they were born a certain way or not, I'm quite sure the person themself knows more about that than some bigot who doesn't "choose" to believe it.

August 16, 2011 at 12:08 a.m.
keninchatt said...

FYI - I NEVER chose to be gay. I fought against it, denied it, was married for 20 years with three kids, tried to pray it away, begged God to change me because I was told it was abominable, almost lost my faith when I realized I could not change it, until I came to understand that God loves me and I CAN be gay and Christian.

August 16, 2011 at 1:37 a.m.
kinch7 said...

I got cut! Let's try this again:

I'll be your huckleberry on the Bible, Mr. Stewwie. In reality there is not a whole lot said that condemns homosexuality. There is a verse in Leviticus condemning it along with verses condemning two different kinds of material being worn and a verse condemning the seeding of two different kinds of crops in a field. In fact, most societies, even Jewish ones, rejected what was recognized to be the laws of ancient Israel.
The Lot story that folks love to claim as their own personal "right there" text suggests that rape and violence were the primary evils rather than consensual lust. Compare Lot's story to Judges 19 and you will see that the common factor in both stories is mob violence and daughters being offered to mollify the mob.
It is true that Jesus says not a word about homosexuality, but in the Gospel of Mark there is a mysterious guy who is clad only in a sheet on the night Jesus gets arrested. He runs off naked. Apparently, Matthew and Luke did not include that tidbit in their gospels. I wonder why. Your own belief in inerrancy and plenary inspiration makes me wonder why God in his infinite homophobia and sovereign influence did not proclaim God’s hatred of homosexuality when he was inspiring hands to write about himself when he was his own son on earth. There is not a word about it. Not a word. Apparently, the early church canonized what they believed to be crucial for the Christian life. You might as well say Jesus told everyone about galaxies, periodic tables, germs, and predicted the birth of Nostradamus, but it just did not make it into the gospels.
Paul speaks of depravity in Romans, and he also advises in his first letter to the Corinthians that it is best that a man have nothing to do with women since the Parousia was from his standpoint any second now... Well, the “any second now” did not happen then, and with all due respect to Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHay, I seriously doubt the any second now will happen anytime soon; so we better make a just society with what we have.
What is that? We have conceived in our Declaration and Constitution a vision of inalienable rights unimagined by ancient Israel, ancient Rome, and ancient Europe (and apparently in the minds of my beloved fellow Southerners). Conceived therein are rights for Jews and Gentiles, blacks and whites, male and female, straight and gay, and so forth.
Indeed, Mr. Stewwie, if you are going to cherry pick your Bible verses, rather than read the books and learn what the books said to the people who read them at the time they were written, then let’s stack your cherries up against all those cherry picked verses about being kind. Your stack will be much shorter than mine.

August 16, 2011 at 5:15 a.m.
dthoward1964 said...

No one should live in FEAR for being who they are. African Americans lived in fear of being beat and killed if they sought to have the same privileges as white Americans. After 911, we lived in fear of there being another terrorist attack. And still now gay people live in FEAR of being themselves. All I want is to be able to express my love and compassion without fear of being beat up, called names or even worse killed. I'm not trying to brow beat anyone, I just want the same rights as everyone else. After all, last time I checked I was living in AMERICA, not some communist country.

August 16, 2011 at 9:54 a.m.
cavscout124 said...

To "chattanoogatennesseeusa" how much tougher do i need to be? I served 17 years in the military as a gay man who had to hide and lie about who i am just for my love of country. I served 3 tours in Iraq, been shot at, blown up, had human waste thrown at me. I have endured enough in my life to deserve respect for who i truely am.

August 16, 2011 at 2:10 p.m.
jimcarwest said...

This article is about bullying, and that is certainly wrong. But it is also about asking people to accept homosexuality as normal. Let's not confuse the two issues. The disabled person is to be pitied because he has a condition that cannot change. The same cannot be said about a gay person; he chooses his "condition," which is abhorrent in every civilization throughout all time. We pity a gay person like we might pity an addicted person -- as one who could change and who ought to change, but as one who refuses to change. It is his self-chosen habit of life that condemns him and makes him an object of scorn. Some have accepted the challenge of change and through a relationship with Jesus Christ have embraced the normalcy that a God-changed life brings. No one is excluded from this blessedness.

August 17, 2011 at 10:54 a.m.
keithlandrum said...

@ jimcarwest-

“The disabled person is to be pitied because he has a condition that cannot change”

Why are they to be pitied? The disabled people I know do not want my pity. They want understanding and dignity. I give them both.

“The same cannot be said about a gay person; he chooses his "condition."

How do you know this? Was there a scientific study conducted that produced overwhelming results that concluded that this statement is true? Can you please provide evidence of this study? You make that statement as if it is fact. I’m sure you believe this statement is true regardless of any evidence to support your claim. Why is that? What evidence has been provided to you that allows you to believe that statement is fact? You will not find any evidence of your claim because there isn’t any evidence to support it. I am genuinely asking you this question. How do you know this? Some humans are attracted to the same sex, others are attracted to the opposite sex. Either you are, or you aren’t.

“We pity a gay person like we might pity an addicted person -- as one who could change and who ought to change, but as one who refuses to change.”

Who is we? Do you know anything about addiction? The homosexual people I know do not want my pity. They want understanding and dignity. I give them both.

August 17, 2011 at 1:05 p.m.

Heros You say?My 3 sons are heros.They did 3 tours apiece in Iraq..How dare you compare a faggot as a hero.They should hide their face in shame for being a lover of their own sex..They should get their ass beat in school every day for chosing their sinful,degrading,mental sickness way..

August 21, 2011 at 8:56 p.m.
Ferro said...

To the previous poster: Bigots like you have nothing to teach about heroism. The people who ought to be ashamed are ignorant hatemongers such as yourself.

August 22, 2011 at 9:29 a.m.
observer279 said...

Hopefully some of these comments will be removed. Makes me sick to read hatred and redneck bigotry attached to our local newspaper viewable anywhere in the world.

August 22, 2011 at 9:44 a.m.
jimcarwest said...

What does scientific research reveal about this question? One of the web sites, among many that I researched, seemed to have the most unbiased opinion based upon research. Here are some of its views. “There have been many articles published in various publications regarding homosexuality that do not reflect the scientific literature. In fact, their social advocacy suggests a greater reliance on politics than on science…Are men and women born with a genetic propensity for same-sex attraction? Scientific attempts to demonstrate that homosexual attraction is biologically determined have failed. The major researchers have arrived at such conclusions.” 1. Dr. Dean Hamer, an American geneticist, director of the Gene Structure and Regulation Unit at the U.S. National Institute of Cancer, attempted to link male homosexuality to a stretch of DNA located at the tip of the X chromosome, the chromosome that some men inherit from their mothers. Regarding genetics and homosexuality Hamer concluded: “There is not a single master gene that makes people gay. I don't think we will ever be able to predict who will be gay." 2. Dr. George Rice of the University of Western Ontario duplicated the research and found “the genetic markers to be non-significant….Our data does not support the presence of a gene of large effect influencing sexual orientation.” 3. Dr. Simon LeVay, an American neuroscientist known for his studies about brain structures and sexual orientation, professor at University of Cambridge, at Harvard University and at Univ. of California, in his study of the hypothalamic differences between the brains of homosexual and heterosexual men, offered the following criticisms of his own research, "It's important to stress what I didn't find. I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay. I didn't show that gay men are born that way…. Nor did I locate a gay center in the brain." LeVay observed, “…people who think that gays and lesbians are born that way are also more likely to support gay rights.” 4. Researchers J.M. Bailey and Richard C. Pillard, did a study which focused on twins. This study provides support for environmental factors, but not for genetic factors. If homosexuality were in the genetic code, however, all of the identical twins would have been homosexual. 5. Prominent research team William Byne and Bruce Parsons, as well as psychiatrists R. Friedman and J. Downey, reviewed the studies linking biology and homosexual attraction. They concluded that there was no evidence to support a biologic theory but rather that homosexuality could be best explained by an alternative model where "temperamental and personality traits interact with the familial and social milieu as the individual's sexuality emerges.” In other words it is a social and environmental issue, not a genetic issue.

August 23, 2011 at 4:37 a.m.
Leaf said...

Well, if you know much about biology you know that jimcarwest's post is a gross oversimplification. I suspect some of those quotes are cherry-picked or taken out of context. We certainly don't understand the human genome completely. We also have just a tiny inkling of how hormones and other chemicals interact in our bodies to affect our growth and behavior.

Lacking scientific evidence otherwise why don't we take people at their word? Most gay people say they were born gay, and most straight people say they were born straight. Maybe some of the people who don't believe a person is born gay or straight, were born bisexual or asexual.

In any case, what does it matter? It doesn't hurt me at all if other people have a different sexuality than me. Though I must say I find it annoying how a different letter gets added every year to "GLBTQ" What's "Q", for crying out loud!

August 23, 2011 at 3:49 p.m.
keithlandrum said...
August 23, 2011 at 9:56 p.m.
keithlandrum said...
August 23, 2011 at 9:57 p.m.
keithlandrum said...
August 23, 2011 at 9:57 p.m.
dabbscr said...

GENESIS 2 VERSUS 21-25. GOD MAD WOMAN FROM ADAM SO THAT MAN AND WIFE COULD BE UNTO EACH OTHER.

August 24, 2011 at 1:37 a.m.
keithlandrum said...
August 24, 2011 at 8:48 a.m.

The only ones who get bullied in school are the sissy fags..If they acted like a true boy or girl there wold be no problem, but when you get boys wanting to wear dresses to school ,there lies a problem..

August 25, 2011 at 10:12 a.m.
LibDem said...

The research of Mr. Carwest and his supporters is amusing in what it reveals. Since there are no genetic markers, we assume that they have developed finely honed gaydar after countless hours in gay bars. Are you having fun yet? Simplistically, how is it possible to determine that identical twins are of different sexual orientation? Researchers rely on self-identification, the least reliable criterion when you are researching a characteristic which is viewed negatively by society.

(dabbscr said... "GENESIS 2 VERSUS 21-25. GOD MAD WOMAN FROM ADAM SO THAT MAN AND WIFE COULD BE UNTO EACH OTHER" Well, that certainly cleared things up.)

(EducatedWhiteBoy said... The only ones who get bullied in school are the sissy fags" What is it about these guys that frightens you, WhiteBoy?)

August 25, 2011 at 11:16 a.m.
fairmon said...

Educators need to get on with education and reducing so much leisure time during school hours in addition to lowering the bar of success. Bullying in schools regardless of who and why has to be stopped. All those bullied are not in the categories mentioned.

It is the educational communities role to teach and assure there is equal opportunity to learn in a very disciplined controlled environment. It is not the schools job to encourage being touchy feely and love everyone but they must assure all are treated with respect.

We are so behind and off target with our education process it is rediculous.

August 25, 2011 at 8:56 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

It is the educational communities role to teach and assure there is equal opportunity to learn in a very disciplined controlled environment.

It is our job to prepare kids for real life, which is not a disciplined controlled environment. The way you teach children to treat others with respect is to publicly preserve the dignity of every human being regardless of their "label". As kids get older they must learn how to behave correctly even when no one else is "watching". The most effective way is to start when they are young, exposing them to a great diversity of people so they learn that, despite differences, they are all just people. That requires calling things what they are: physical disabilities, different cultures, different family make-up, different races, and yes, in ways appropriate to the age of the child, sexual orientation.

Those that get on this site and spout hateful, ugly language about others, especially children, obviously never learned that all people deserve to be treated with dignity. No exceptions. I hope for their sake that you never have children that are gay, disabled or obese.

August 26, 2011 at 6:18 a.m.
Ferro said...

@EducatedWhiteBoy: It seems to me there wasn't a problem until mean-spirited people like you who needed to feel good about themselves via putting others down and assert control they don't deserve to have entered the picture.

August 26, 2011 at 7:37 a.m.

Darwin said it best. "Survival of the Fittest." Will we eventually evolve to include gays as part of humanity? I don't know. What did/has/ and still does work seems to include males and females of species being together. If I see two bulls in the pasture snuggling up during my lifetime I might reconsider my position. I don't believe in the Bible because it was written by people like me. Basically, someone else with an opinion!! Evolution has worked for millions upon millions of years. Gays and Lesbians want to change ancient geriatric biology in the blink of an evolutionary eye. It just ain't gonna happen. The last time I checked, it doesn't happen that quickly. You're going to have to give it a heck of a lot more time than you're (gays & lesbians) are asking for it to occur. I accept most tenants of evolution. I say "most" because we don't know everything yet. We are the only animals on the planet that practice male/male and female/female sexual behavior. Give this biological and mental practice another million years or so. Hopefully, it will have sorted itself out by then. Until then, quit pushing and shoving it into our faces. I won't and doesn't make you a hero. If you aren't careful....it will/can and probably will make you extinct.

August 28, 2011 at 9:56 a.m.
lkeithlu said...
  • We are the only animals on the planet that practice male/male and female/female sexual behavior.*

Actually, we are not. It is quite common in mammals and birds.

August 28, 2011 at 10:27 a.m.
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