published Tuesday, August 16th, 2011

5 at 10: NASCAR feuds , Freddie Freeman and the new Mr. 600

Today is the Mrs. 5-at-10's birthday. She is... well, she is awesome. (See how we pulled out of that one? Nice, huh?) Programming note: We're stopping by for a visit with our good friends at SportTalk today around 4 p.m. We'll be around there for a couple of hours.

Let's get to it. From the "7-Up Stinks Studios," here we go...

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    Driver Boris Said, right, talks with a crew member during a practice session for the Gram Am Rolex 24 hour auto race at Daytona International Speedway in Daytona Beach, Fla., Thursday, Jan. 27, 2011.(AP Photo/John Raoux)

He Said, She Biffle

Our man Boris Said has always been a favorite of the 5-at-10 for a couple of reasons: Dude’s name is Boris, which is cool; He looks like El Guapo, the leader of the Mexican Banditos in “Three Amigos,” which is an underrated comedy; whenever he is quoted in newspaper stories, it goes, “Blah, blah, blah,” Said said, and that’s entertaining to newspaper people; and Said never shies away from speaking his mind.

After Marcos Amrbose won some race named for some sort of snack dip Monday, Said stole the headlines by calling out Greg Biffle.

“He wouldn’t even let me get out of the car. He comes over and throws a few little baby punches and then when I get out, he runs away and hides behind some big guys,” Said said. “He is the most unprofessional little scaredy-cat I’ve ever seen in my life. He wouldn’t even fight me like a man after. He needs a whooping, and I’m going to give it to him. He won’t hide from me long. I’ll find him.

“I won’t settle it on the track ... but he’ll show up at a race with a black eye one of these days.”

Get you some Biffle; you can’t be first but you could be next, Boris Said might have said.

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    Atlanta Braves first baseman Freddie Freeman, left, gets hugged by teammate Jason Heyward, after driving in the winning run with a two-run base hit in the ninth inning of a baseball game against the San Francisco Giants Monday, Aug. 15, 2011 in Atlanta. Atlanta won 5-4. (AP Photo/John Bazemore)

Freeman at last

Braves rookie first baseman Freddie Freeman is having a big-time season. A Rookie of the Year-worthy type of season, in fact.

His two-run single with two outs in the ninth Monday off Giants closer Brian Wilson’s beard was the type of moment that makes sports fun. Atlanta’s millionaries bouncing around like 12-year-olds; San Francisco’s millionaires pouting like 12-year-olds. Hey, adolescent fever... Catch it.

Anyhoo, Freeman’s solid single to center jumpstarted a celebration and lifted the Braves to a five-game cushion over the Giants in the wildcard race. Good times indeed.

Sidenote: After working a pressure-packed inning during the dog days of summer, any guesses on how bad that chin sweater Wilson’s fashioned smells? Here’s saying that he gets his own seat on the team plane.

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    Minnesota Twins' Jim Thome rounds the bases after hitting his 600th career home run in the seventh inning of a baseball game against the Detroit Tigers Monday, August 15, 2011 in Detroit. The homer was a three-run shot that gave the Twins a 9-6 lead over the Tigers. (AP Photo/Duane Burleson)

If history falls and no one notices does it make a sound?

Jim Thome on Monday became the eighth player to hit 600 major league homers. Has there ever been a quieter chase for a major milestone, especially considering that almost half — Bonds, Sosa and A-Rod — of the 600-club have an asterick next to their careers? Way to go Jim.

We talked earlier in the summer about some of our favorite numbers in sports, and baseball is flush with them. There's 3,000 hits and the 56-game hitting streak and 300 wins.

Has any renowned number fallen more than 500 homers, and in turn 600 homers? Of the eight players, six have done it in the last decade with Thome and Ken Griffey Jr. joining Bonds, Sosa and A-Rod and the founding partners of Aaron, Ruth and Mays in the elite club.

Thome's chase for 600 seemed to be as noteworthy as a walk-off sacrifice fly. There were highlights and some celebrations, but it kind of caught us by surprise. Granted, Thome hit 599 and 600 in consecutive at-bats and that limited the anticipation, but think about all the hoopla that Jeter's chase for 3,000 got by comparison, and remember that there are five times as many guys (41) in the 3,000-hit club than there are in the 600-homers club.

Yes, Jeter is Jeter and plays in NYC, and Thome has bounced around some, but still.

Chicks may dig the long ball, but apparently history prefers the singles.

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    Texas A&M head coach Mike Sherman, left looks on from the sideline during the second half of the Cotton Bowl NCAA college football game against LSU in Arlington, Texas. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez, File)

This and that

— Texas A&M had a news conference Monday saying they were not going to join the SEC. In related news, the 5-at-10 will hold a news conference sometime this week to announce we’re not joining the United Nations nor Young Republican Women. Glad we got that off our chest.

— Did we read this right, Georgia stud freshman Ray Drew hurt his shoulder falling off a scooter on his way to church Sunday? That may be the exact story, but that just sounds like the lead in to an Eddie Haskell-type story.

— Chris Johnson wants more money. (So does the 5-at-10, by the way.) The Titans want Chris Johnson in camp. (So does the 5-at-10, by the way.) Let's make this happen all the way around. There, that's settled.

— Speaking of running backs, anyone else think it's somewhat strange that after an erratic career with the UT Vols, Arian Foster is now one of the top three running backs in the NFL? Yeah, we do to.

Today’s question

Do you think Jim Thome is a first-ballot Hall of Famer?

Minnesota Twins' Jim Thome (25) hugs Danny Valencia as the Twins celebrate Thome's 600th career home run in the seventh inning of a baseball game against the Detroit Tigers Monday, August 15, 2011 in Detroit. The homer was a three-run shot that gave the Twins a 9-6 lead over the Tigers. (AP Photo/Duane Burleson)
Minnesota Twins' Jim Thome (25) hugs Danny Valencia as the Twins celebrate Thome's 600th career home run in the seventh inning of a baseball game against the Detroit Tigers Monday, August 15, 2011 in Detroit. The homer was a three-run shot that gave the Twins a 9-6 lead over the Tigers. (AP Photo/Duane Burleson)
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Livn4life said...

Arian Foster's metamorphosis has been truly remarkable and I for one am happy for him. He made some faux pas fumbles and dropped some passes in Orange but over all was a solid back. To not be drafted and end up as he has, that is remarkable. Texas A&M in the SEC? What are they moving to become Tennessee A&M? NOT! The conference is fine as is but I can see why the Aggies would want to make that conference out there the Big11!

August 16, 2011 at 10:23 a.m.
patrickd said...

No way the hall passes up the opportunity to accept a non-steroid connected 600+ homerun hitters into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot. Especially since Babe Ruth and Babe Ruth only did achieved the mark in fewer at bats.

That I couldn't pick this guys face out of a lineup is neither here nor there.

August 16, 2011 at 10:32 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Livin(Large) —

Concur on Foster. He had a knack for making a really bad play at a really bad time at UT, and good for him for his success with Houston.

If the SEC is going to expand to 16, then Texas A&M can come (and when the expansion happens, isn't it about time to ask Vandy to improve or get off the pot of SEC gold?) , but until then the Aggies can Texas two-step their way through the stink-pants conference that is the Big 12-minus 2.

PDavi —

Does it matter that he never won an MVP and was arguably never the best player on his own team?

Would you rather have 10 years of dominance like Don Mattingly (not a Hall-o-Famer) or 20 years of number collecting like Jim Thome (who is being celebrated today like he's a hybrid Willie Mantle Aaron)?

Is he getting mad praise for hitting 600 or for not using steroids?

— 5-at-10

August 16, 2011 at 11:13 a.m.
patrickd said...

Nickle and Dime, okay, nice response. I can't argue with any of that so I'm going to do the smart thing here, wait around and see what Eustice thinks.

Nice 5 at 10 today!

August 16, 2011 at 11:29 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

Boris Said. Didn't he get traded for Gary Francis Powers back in 62?

OK, so Thome has never been "the" guy on any of his teams. But he's been a fearsome presence at the plate and is generally regarded as a great teammate by all those who have played with him. Going from 3b to 1b to DH also doesn't help his chances. But 600 bombs is tough to overlook, especially when he has not been smeared with the taint of steriods accusations, as so many of his modern day peers have.

August 16, 2011 at 11:52 a.m.
Blueoval said...

We can all argue for and against Thome being a first year HOF but I think everyone can agree that with 600 dingers he's pretty much a lock in whichever year it does happen.

Arian Foster-WOW, he upset me so many times :) but I'm glad to see him playing the way he is now (not to mention holding onto the ball more now).

As for Boris vs Biffle....I agree with what Tony Stewart once said... When two drivers get angry at each other during the race, let them square off at the start finish line at the end of the race and settle it there. That might just boost the TV ratings too.

August 16, 2011 at 12:23 p.m.
jgreeson said...

BlueOval(loves Andicot Steel) —

Oh, there's no doubt that a steroid-free (allegedly) 600 homers is a Hall o Fame ticket puncher. We just wanted to throw out there some counter points.

Agree 100-percent on Tony Stewart's view. If you're going to dance, dance. Don't push and fall back — that's pass blocking not fighting.

As for TV ratings, well, hold a drawing and let a lucky fan take a swing at Kyle Busch — that'll boost interest for sure.

Sidenote: We're stunned how much Boris Said looks like El Guapo. Seriously. Google El Guapo, and you'll think "Wow, wonder why Boris only did that one movie."

BIspy —

No, Boris Said was partners with Natasha on the compliance committee at Whatsamatta U. that had to deal with Bullwinkle and Rocky.

Thome was a fearsome presence and a good dude, but does that mean Bob Horner is a Hall o Famer? Yes, that's an overstatement (but Champ Summers didn't want any of Bob Horner) but still.

PDavi —


— 5-at-10

August 16, 2011 at 12:56 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Yeah, but Horns didn't go 600 bombs. Maybe 600 double Whoppers, not 600 bombs.

And pass along my very best to your understanding and gracious far better half.

August 16, 2011 at 1:09 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Boris always has a plethora of rides for the road courses, wouldn't you say?

And other than the aforementioned Boris Badunov, Boris Becker and Boris Karloff, just how many other notable Bori are there?

August 16, 2011 at 2:06 p.m.
jgreeson said...

BIspy —

Yeah but Bob Horner's "bombs" would have to be overwhelming, right? Ay caramba.

And thanks for reminding me of one of my favorite exchanges from "Three Amigos"

From the

Jefe: I have put many beautiful pinatas in the storeroom, each of them filled with little suprises.

El Guapo: Many pinatas?

Jefe: Oh yes, many!

El Guapo: Would you say I have a plethora of pinatas?

Jefe: A what?

El Guapo: A plethora.

Jefe: Oh yes, you have a plethora.

El Guapo: Jefe, what is a plethora?

Jefe: Why, El Guapo?

El Guapo: Well, you told me I have a plethora. And I just would like to know if you know what a plethora is. I would not like to think that a person would tell someone he has a plethora, and then find out that that person has no idea what it means to have a plethora.

Jefe: Forgive me, El Guapo. I know that I, Jefe, do not have your superior intellect and education. But could it be that once again, you are angry at something else, and are looking to take it out on me?


As for other famous Bori, well, we're stumped.

— 5-at-10

August 16, 2011 at 2:32 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Just let me know when you want me to tee another up for you, and I will gladly do so.

There's no sneaking a 2-2 changeup past the old 5 at 10, folks, even if he's sitting dead red.

August 16, 2011 at 2:58 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

Gang- Yes I'm well aware that I am late to the party, but here it goes...

Sunday Night we had some good ol fashioned Rock'em Sock'em Robots on Versus... Dan Hardy and Chris Lytle traded blows for nearly 15 minutes until Dan Hardy shot in for a double, Lytle Sprawled and caught Hardy with a Guillotine...Good Night Dan Hardy...

But for the Question De Jour...First and Foremost...Although Thome spent his early years with the Inidans he is always going to be a former Phillie and we all know how I feel about The Phillies Organization as a whole.... So is Jim Thome a First Ballot Hall of Famer...It is tough because this is a classic case of longevity leading to stats...Thome Never won an MVP or a World Series.. but I think P Davi has a point that the Baseball Writers of America will be salivating over a non- Steriod using 600 HR Club Member.

August 16, 2011 at 9:37 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

So to answer the Question De Jour...I will go with my Gut and Say a few days Thome will Fade into Bolivian, returning to his Every other Day Minnesota Twin DH Duties and his 600th HR accomplishment will be only a small highlight of 2011 overshadowed by Jeter's 3000, College Football's Pay for Play Scandals and Brian Wilson's 400+ Day Old Beard.... which leads me to my question...which I will leave for the group and check back later tomorrow to see what developed if anything... Brian Wilson's Beard, Pedro Martinez's Chilli Bowl-jheri Curl and Rod Beck's Mullet-Mustache Combo... which Fashion statement are you(you being defined as whoever you wants to be) most likely to adorn???

Mad Props to my man Boris "Right" Said (Fred)...Biffle is a punk..knuckle up Chump!

Way to go 5er, heard ya on sport talk on the way home! ...Way to go!

August 16, 2011 at 10:04 p.m.
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