published Monday, August 22nd, 2011

Chattanooga area: Train kills two in Hamilton County

Hamilton County Sheriff's Office investigators comb the site where two people were struck and killed by a train near Sale Creek, Tenn.
Hamilton County Sheriff's Office investigators comb the site where two people were struck and killed by a train near Sale Creek, Tenn.
Photo by Tracey Trumbull /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

A man and a woman were struck and killed by a train about 6:10 a.m. today at 15800 Coulterville Road in Sale Creek, Hamilton County Sheriff’s authorities said.

Investigators have not identified the victims.

Hamilton County Sheriff's Office Spokeswoman Janice Atkinson said the train was a Southern Railway train. Company officials called authorities about the accident.

The tracks at the scene of the accident cross private farm land. There are no homes near where the bodies were found.

Update: Victim names released.

Read more in tomorrow’s Times Free Press.

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Rayterry said...

People, please be aware that all railroad tracks are "private property"! These two had no business walking on a Class 1 main-line track. They paid the ultimate price! Being retired from this very railway Company (btw, it is Norfolk Southern Railway) I have seen many incidents like this, all which are totally avoidable. Soon, unfortunately the RR will probably be sued by the surviving relatives and pay a ridiculous amount for the victim's own negligence! Insane! The train(s) on a main-line doing fast speeds CANNOT stop for you or for any vehicle on a RR crossing. Use common sense; stay out of the way of trains!

August 22, 2011 at 1:09 p.m.
terrybham said...

One of life's certainties is that if you stay off of the tracks; the train will not and can not hit you. This type of accident is totally avoidable.

August 22, 2011 at 1:23 p.m.
slov said...

Both of you should be ashamed of yourself. There are friends and family still trying to find out details of a horrible accident and you both are quick to judge their "negligence" and the negative impact on the "RR company." Shame on you for being so inconsiderate you pigs.

August 22, 2011 at 2:40 p.m.
kylster said...

While this is an unfortunate accident, both Rayterry and terrybham are absolutely correct. Loved ones, I am sure will be trying to get through this tough time, but the victims were not supposed to be on those tracks. The lines are the property of the railroads.

August 22, 2011 at 2:53 p.m.
volsfan86 said...

there are two families seriously hurting right now and all you can say are "the lines are the property of the railroads." and this is "private property"? you should all be ashamed of yourselves. When your judgement day comes, God will remember the lack of care and compassion you showed these two families.

August 22, 2011 at 2:55 p.m.
kmb1981 said...

Unbelievable that people would be so focused on a matter of "trespassing" in such a tragic event!

August 22, 2011 at 3:02 p.m.
rickyj49 said...

slov, thank you for your comment. There's no further evidence that what is shown in the above article. So, your assumption is rash and possibly incorrect. It doesn't fully state who was at fault and how the accident occured. I actually know one of the individuals that was involved in this incident. To say that their family would sue the train company is not needed and out of line. Just because you worked for the Train Company and have seen incidents like this first hand, doesn't give you the privilege to make comments like that. Your ignorance is unbelieveable. Yes, I understand where your comming from, but again, thats doesn't give you the right to make judgement and comments like that.

August 22, 2011 at 3:03 p.m.
rickyj49 said...

One more thing, the train tracks ran through their farm/property, so they weren't really on someone elses property and it wasn't really trespassing.

August 22, 2011 at 3:05 p.m.
kris4futbol said...

I know both of the people and I think the comments are way uncalled for at this point or ever!!!!!! Kris Ray

August 22, 2011 at 3:07 p.m.
dao1980 said...

It would be nice to know more about WHY these unfortunate folks were apparently unable to move from the tracks as a quite loud and intensely ground shaking mode of transport approached.

Kinda reminds me of the river barge/fisherman incident.

August 22, 2011 at 3:27 p.m.
Winner said...

I can understand being angry, but I think the anger here is being pointed at the wrong individuals. The posters who point out an obvious fact (it's not smart to walk on active railroad tracks) didn't do anything to deserve such harsh words such as God will remember their "lack of care." By the way, how dare you assume to know what God will or will not do on someone's judgement day.

The point is this: Don't walk on railroad tracks. Especially if you have a problem with getting hit by a train.

August 22, 2011 at 3:47 p.m.
Pizzaguy said...

I have seen quite a few young people in the area, walking down the tracks with headphones/ear buds attachted to an ipod or MP3 player. You won't hear the train, but you might feel it. And it will cost you your life.

August 22, 2011 at 3:56 p.m.
Media86 said...

Pizzaguy: No details have been released, therefore how can you assume that these two individuals had headphones in? I am not saying that was not the case, but I think you need to wait until details are released before you jump to conclusions.

Winner: In defense I think the anger is steming from the lack of evidence at this point. We do not know what happend so how can people judge the individuals as well as their families. Some of the above comments are uncalled for and should never be voiced within hours of two people being killed. These were young lives that have been taken and people need to wait to get the facts before making acusations.

August 22, 2011 at 4:14 p.m.

Media86, Who said they were "young lives"? If it turns out foul play is suspected and they were "young lives", are you psychic or a suspect?

To the ipod crowd, do you really think the driver didn't blow those loud horns? Earbuds or no, you are going to hear that kind of thing unless you are deaf. This was murder, suicide or stupidity.

August 22, 2011 at 4:55 p.m.
Media86 said...

They are young lives because I know who they are. Just because the names have not been released to the media does not mean that close friends have not heard of the tragedy involving the two people. So yes they were "young lives."

August 22, 2011 at 5:02 p.m.
rolando said...

Couple questions from a skeptical observer:

Did the engineer see them walking around or were they just laying there waiting to get run over?

Were they run over or just struck? If the former, any past involvement with recreational drugs? If the latter, any sign of drugs?

No matter how you cut it, it is pretty darn hard not to hear or feel a train thundering down on you. They are not just floating on air out there. Go stand fifty feet or so from the tracks when a train thunders by and then decide.

Not exactly "nice" questions, but these are not particularly "nice" times, either.

Finally, most railroad rights-of-way are either owned by the railroads or they have an easement; much like the land on each side of a public highway...that includes a certain distance each side of the tracks. Crossing onto their private property is indeed trespassing and obviously and demonstrably endangers their safety.

August 22, 2011 at 5:47 p.m.
BravesDave said...

My prayers are with the family and friends of these 2 people. I hope that they can get answers about this tragedy to help provide some form of closure.

August 22, 2011 at 7:07 p.m.
amnestiUSAF84 said...

Some of the above comments are uncalled for and should never be voiced within hours of two people being killed.

Believe me, Media86, commenters here have said far worse things when the victims were 1. from the hood or from the other side of the tracks. 2. From south of the border.

August 22, 2011 at 7:11 p.m.
adolphochs said...

My sincere condolences to both families. I know both families and these kids. No parent should outlive their children.

August 22, 2011 at 7:33 p.m.
ebbosley21 said...

Hey flying why dont you do us all a favor and go jump off a bridge and keep you BS comments to yourself seeing as though you apparently know NEITHER of the two like some of us do!!!!

August 22, 2011 at 8:13 p.m.
rolando said...

Amen to your first and last sentences, adolph.

The train crew reportedly sounded their horn...to no avail.

August 22, 2011 at 9:17 p.m.
rosebud said...

Hey TFP, wake up. Remove these classless, tasteless comments. They serve no useful or constructive purpose while family members grieve.

August 23, 2011 at 12:16 a.m.
Pizzaguy said...

Media86 - I only made an observation about what I have seen in the area. I did not assume anything about this tragedy. You assumed that I said this was the case.

August 23, 2011 at 7:09 a.m.

I did not know these two and I feel for the families that are suffereing right now, but that doesn't change the facts of the case. If they were standing, it was suicide. If they were lying on the tracks, it could have been suicide or murder. If it was drug related, it was stupidity. If it were one of my loved ones, I would think the same thing and be working to find out which it was. Most of the grief could wait until the case was solved. If it couldn't be solved, honoring them and grieving their loss would be the next step. Those on here who let themselves be consumed by their emotions are what is wrong with this world. It is never a good idea to let emotion rule. Emotion balanced by thought and common sense is always best.

August 23, 2011 at 9:42 a.m.
wgroover said...

Those who say this accident was 100% avoidable are 100% correct. If this was someone in my family who got hit- BESIDES being hurt and sad- I'd probably be disappointed that my people actually let themselves get hit by a train. Either there is some sort of foul play at hand here- or worse yet- there ISN'T any foul play. Either way- it sucks for the family. If it WAS an accident and if it was my family- I'd probably say Uncle Who? heh heh... seriously.

August 23, 2011 at 10:26 a.m.
rickyj49 said...

FlyingPurpleSheeplEater: I agree that Emotion balanced by thought and common sense is a good way to approach situations like this and any other, but to say one should wait to grieve and honor the death of a loved one after the case is solved, is pure ignorance and stupidity. There is no proper way to grieve and there is no manual that describes how to handle a situation like this.

August 23, 2011 at 12:07 p.m.
tcrashfx said...

Hey TFP, wake up. Remove these classless, tasteless comments.

Are you kidding? The TFP trespasses to get a photo, in the alleged interest of 'reporting', and then doctors said photo that they subsequently published? Tasteless and classless is the admitted new TFP mission statement. This is the moldy bread and rancid butter of the 'Right 2 Know' TFP. As long as people subscribe and advertise here, it will continue.

Profiting on the tragedy of the sudden death of others is the TFP's current platform, yet subscribers and advertisers still give the TFP a rubber stamp to continue in their current vein of yellow, tabloid journalism.

August 23, 2011 at 8:44 p.m.
Jon87 said...

Do people not remember that in school they told us to stay away from RR tracks. Yeah i feel bad for the family but what about the RR employees operating the train that have to live with the fact they killed two peolpe plus the the other employees involed in the clean up. you can fell the rail moveing from 1/2 a mile away. see the lights and train. and it has a horn and bell what more could you ask for to tast it comeing?

August 23, 2011 at 11:09 p.m.
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