published Friday, December 2nd, 2011

Remains believed to be those of Gail Palmgren found on side of Signal Mountain

An aerial photograph, distributed by the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office, shows the crimson Jeep Rubicon belonging to Gail Palmgren. The Jeep and the human remains believed to be those of Palmgren were discovered Thursday on Signal Mountain.
An aerial photograph, distributed by the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office, shows the crimson Jeep Rubicon belonging to Gail Palmgren. The Jeep and the human remains believed to be those of Palmgren were discovered Thursday on Signal Mountain.
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  • Human remains found near Palmgren's Jeep
    Watch raw video of Hamilton County Sheriff Jim Hammond during a news conference announcing the discovery of human remains believed to be Gail Palmgren. Palmgren, a Signal Mountain mother of two, went missing April 30. Her Jeep was discovered Thursday on Signal Mountain in the woods between East Brow Road and the W Road.
Statement of Matthew Palmgren
Statement of Matthew Palmgren

  • Gail Palmgren's Jeep found, no body inside
    The Hamilton County Sheriff's Office and the Tennessee Highway Patrol located Gail Palmgren's Jeep Rubicon on the side of Signal Mountain near the W Road on Thursday. There was no body inside the vehicle. Palmgren has been missing since April 30.
Jeep's Location
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    An aerial photograph, distributed by the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office, shows the crimson Jeep Rubicon belonging to Gail Palmgren. The Jeep and the human remains believed to be those of Palmgren were discovered Thursday on Signal Mountain.
    Photo by Contributed Photo /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

The remains believed to be those of a missing 44-year-old woman were found Thursday afternoon and recovery efforts are beginning now.

Officials said they are awaiting confirmation from the Hamilton County Medical Examiner’s office as to the identity.

Investigators with Hamilton County Sheriff’s Office withheld the information to notify Gail Palmgren’s family members before releasing the news to the media.

Most of what are believed to be Palmgren’s remains were recovered more than 100 yards from her Jeep, officials said. Her 2010 crimson Jeep Rubicon had gone over the edge of Signal Mountain on East Brow Road.

It appeared she was was not wearing her seatbelt at the time.

Palmgren was last seen by her children April 30 after she dropped them off at the family home on Ridgerock Drive, just over two miles away where she wrecked.

The Jeep overturned as it rolled down the mountain, causing extensive damage with the roof and front end badly wrecked, officials said. It came to a rest about 150 feet from the W Road after going over a couple of rock bluffs.

Authorities found the vehicle using rappelers and saw Palmgren’s personalized Alabama tag reading "EAZY ST," a reference to the street address of her lake home in Wetumpka, Ala.

Investigators are in the process of going through the calls and text messages on Palmgren’s cell phone, which was recovered near the wreckage, as well as checking the vehicle’s computer system and GPS device.

Authorities are still brainstorming ways to remove the vehicle and her remains without damaging either.

Sheriff Jim Hammond said they may have to airlift the vehicle out.

Although the area was searched on foot on and around Signal Mountain in the months after Palmgren disappeared, the trees had to drop their leaves before an aerial search could be effective. Using a Tennessee Highway Patrol helicopter Thursday, authorities also used infrared technology to detect abnormalities in the landscape, which located the Jeep, Hammond said.

The W Road will be closed to traffic until further notice and residents who live on the road will be asked to show identification before being allowed to drive on it as authorities continue to process evidence.

Palmgren was on the verge of ending her 14-year-marriage to her husband, Matthew, when she disappeared, family and friends have said.

Signal Mountain police were called to the home on April 22 and April 29 in response to the couple’s arguments. Gail Palmgren also gave money and documents to neighbors and relatives to hold for safekeeping before she went missing, according to court documents.

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skyboxer said...

How ironic her vanity license tag read "Eazy Street".

December 2, 2011 at 10:54 a.m.
AuntJane said...

Sad but glad the remains have been found. Understand why it was hard to spot but why couldn't they use the infrared scan when the leaves were on the trees?

December 2, 2011 at 11:28 a.m.
WEBMAN said...

I pray this brings some closure for the family. The healing process can now start.

December 2, 2011 at 11:32 a.m.
dl said...

Let's see if all those accuser's have the class to apologize to Matt now.

December 2, 2011 at 11:55 a.m.

I hope they all learn their lesson. I doubt it with some of them, but have hope for others. I especially hope her family can reconcile this with Mr. Palmgren. Those kids need their family more than ever now.

December 2, 2011 at 12:05 p.m.
hcdeparent said...

di....wait until all the results are in before any apologizes are forth coming. Wait until the final report on cause of death and then we'll see what happens.

December 2, 2011 at 12:14 p.m.
hparker619 said...

@ dl it want happen , chattanooga , signal mtn ppl are nosy thats what they live for that and drugs & beer !

December 2, 2011 at 12:17 p.m.
Kittensarefun said...

Maybe if the SMPD (LT) would have done their job instead of having an extra marital affair with another mans wife while on duty she could have been located sooner

December 2, 2011 at 12:26 p.m.
littlebrains said...

wow lets see: cell phone found near jeep police couldnt track its last whereabouts?? now they going the gps?? why couldn't they find the vehicle from the gps?? just curious

December 2, 2011 at 12:29 p.m.
sandyonsignal said...

What a stupid comment Kittensarefun. Her body wasn't even in their jurisdiction. It was in Walden, but I suppose you are going to blame SMPD for that.

December 2, 2011 at 12:31 p.m.
myopinion101 said...

Paying for her children, her family and those that loved her. At least now they know she just didn't walk off and leave them and they can have some closure. The investigation won't be like the TV shows, but as the Good Book says,"You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free". The truth WILL come out! Pray for her children.

December 2, 2011 at 12:33 p.m.
skyboxer said...

Yes .. the Good Book ... the Koran. Praise Allah.

December 2, 2011 at 12:57 p.m.

Someone mentioned there was another vehicle found around the same location as Mrs. Palmgrens. Has there been any other missing persons in the area? Whomever the remains belong to, hopefully they didn't suffer and the end came quickly. It's agonizing to think someone may have lain there possibly for hours or days suffering.

PEACE

December 2, 2011 at 1:05 p.m.
rolando said...

She didn't have her seatbelt fastened, topsyturvy. Hard telling when she left the vehicle and whether it was under her own power or not.

For littlebrains -- Cell phone batteries are only good for a day or two. Was the car's GPS even operational? Was the ignition still on? If so, another dead battery. And you can't remotely turn something on with dead batteries.

December 2, 2011 at 1:23 p.m.
potcat said...

You Didn't like what i was saying,so whoever is in charge of this thread erases my post. It didn't have a cuss word in it.

Very Professional!! Do you feel powerful? Are you afraid of someone at the papper, if anyone dare says Train Tracks.

Brown Noser and a Weenie are not good attributes, get a backbone.

December 2, 2011 at 1:25 p.m.
rolando said...

dl -- His accusers apologize?? You are kidding, right? Them? They are mostly men-haters or among those who expect nothing but the worst from men.

They won't apologize because they are convinced Mr Palmgren did something wrong somewhere along the line and he deserves to go to jail, no matter what, guilty or not.

At least now he won't have to wait seven years for full closure...all he need do now is fight off her money-grubbing, child-snatching relatives.

December 2, 2011 at 1:28 p.m.
rolando said...

It evidently takes some pretty strong stuff to get a post deleted from this forum, potcat. It needn't be profanity, either. I had one yanked because I [properly] used the phrase, "Calling a spade a spade". That saying originated 2-300 years ago. Google it for its meaning.

December 2, 2011 at 1:36 p.m.
dustdust said...

So sad to see the site of death like this, but a couple of things. First wasn't Mrs. Palmgren on medication for depression? Could she have in fact been going through an un-diagnosed bi-polar episode? It has been stated that someone on Signal Mountain saw the jeep with her driving and another woman with her the night she went missing. I wonder if this was the friend that has been so vocal? Was alcohol involved? Really at the end though it is just sad. Children lost a mother, and Mr. Palmgren has been vilified and already proven guilty in the press. My heart breaks for all that have been touched by this.

December 2, 2011 at 1:57 p.m.
rolando said...

Indeed, dustdust.

December 2, 2011 at 2:09 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

I would also like to believe that people will stop accusing Mr. Palmgren of foul play, now that it's been established that this was likely an accident, but I am under no illusion that this will happen. There are, unfortunately, born conspiracy theorists who will believe what they want to believe even if the evidence directly contradicts them. Look how many people still believe that the government was repsonsible for 9/11. You present them with solid evidence that the progressive collapse of the twin towers was due to the heat weakening the steel, and they call you brainwashed! Some people just don't have enough brains and way too much time on their hands. And BTW Potcat I have read your posts and you have never said anything that I saw that warranted the removal of any of your posts. And to rolando I say there is also nothing wrong with "calling a spade a spade". No definition that I have been able to find for that phrase has any racial overtones of any sort.

December 2, 2011 at 2:28 p.m.
dao1980 said...

Here is another one for deletion the next time the comment cops amble out of their cave to save our eyes from the "unreadable".. It's the first one, right up at the top, you can't miss it.... http://www.timesfreepress.com/users/dao1980/

December 2, 2011 at 2:39 p.m.
chet123 said...

Rolando,dl,flyingpruple....not so fast...not so fast....let the investigation start...and not with WALDEN POLICE...but the TBI and INSURANCE COMPANIES......

You bird brains let this case be investigated...

How convinent for the husband.....he doesnt loose the KIDS...get to keep the homes......dont have to pay child support...keeps his girl friend...get to claim the life insurance...Hmmmmmmmmmm...Hmmmmmmm....Hmmmmmmmmm...the stars were all lines up right...or maybe i shall have played the lottery that nite.....because what are the chances of that(GAIL PAMGREN) happening BY ACCIDENT Hmmmmmmmm

Rolando,Flyingpurple,dl....i have an acre of SWAMP land in MARION COUNTY to sale you

December 2, 2011 at 2:45 p.m.
chet123 said...

huh huh!...I see RSultz210 is a FOX VEIWER TOO......maybe i can sale him some swamp land too.... ha ha ha

December 2, 2011 at 2:48 p.m.
chet123 said...

HA HA HA...i see dustdust...goose stepping with the other coots...are the people in that area really that gullible?????? HA HA HA HA!

December 2, 2011 at 2:53 p.m.
wtf1234 said...

Chet123 You are so correct. It was no accident!!

December 2, 2011 at 3:10 p.m.
jesse said...

as much leeway as they give the nonsense and garbage chet posts on here i'm suprised that any body gets anything deleted!!

December 2, 2011 at 3:11 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

Even if this is just an sad, tragic accident, Mr. Palmgren, by his previous actions, will have a hard time ever being not seen as the Missing Woman's Cheating Husband.

Mrs. Palmgren held a doctorate degree in pharmacy of some kind. She was not a stupid woman. However, her discovery of her husband's shenanigans and her attempts to remove herself and her children without losing everything probably was a huge contributor to the fact that she went off of that mountain.

Whatever happened, her children have to live with all of the family laundry being put out there in the open and with losing their mother after their father was accused of doing away with her.

It will be a long, hard road for all of the family. Perhaps we should all have a little more respect.

December 2, 2011 at 3:27 p.m.
johnnyhurst said...

Hell if they delete chets posts they'd most likely have scrimination lawsuit on their hands by the naacp or southern poverty folks. Don't get it twisted, Yall crackas be good hunkies hush up that crazy talk now. It's too bad to think about someone taking a tumble off that mountain and having to lay there and suffer. My sister fell off of signal point in the 80s. She laid on the ground for two days before she was found by some hikers thanks to the spd calling off the search claiming she ran away, even after a hound took them to the spot where she fell. It's a miracle she survived that 150 ft fall.

December 2, 2011 at 3:33 p.m.
skyboxer said...

the other car they found is a yellow honda cvcc. it went over the brow about 30 years ago. i was there and on site at the time of that incident. its below the house that sits right on the very edge of the cliff, at a sharp curve in the road. there are black pole cross ties there now.

December 2, 2011 at 3:35 p.m.
chet123 said...

Jesse....let me give you a hint:...POST FACTS!!...POST FACTS!...People like you have tried many time.....what people like you want to do is censor me because you dont have a leg to stand on with your ridiculous comments like rolando, dl,flyingpurple,rsultz,dustdust now you....a 5th grader can post better and more thorough thoughts as comments

December 2, 2011 at 3:44 p.m.
chet123 said...

JOHNNYHURST...HA HA HA HA HA .....So you sister was going thru a bitter divorce....and it was common knowledge that your sister often fought with her husband....OH YEAH...your sister husband had a girl-friend who he worked with..OH YEAH..your sister threaten to take the kids and leaving her husband with child support..OH YEAH....They found your sister dead

YOU NUCKLE HEAD!!!!...YOU ARE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES!!!

December 2, 2011 at 3:53 p.m.
MarshaA said...

It's not so odd for people to think it's strange when a large red Jeep going off the road right in front of a residential section on a busy, sunny Saturday afternoon isn't noticed. She went missing after multiple 911 calls, after her husband and his girlfriend skipped out on a conference to go who-knows-where and buy the girlfriend a new car, after he left threatening messages on her sister's answering machine. He never searched for her, he immediately said she ran off and abandoned the kids and was planning on taking them out of the country. Matt and his mom and his girlfriend lawyered up with criminal defense attorneys immediately, and his friends were seen all over online forums saying Gail had stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars and ran off.

If Matt was suspected of something, it's almost entirely his own doing by his own actions. No apologies to that man are necessary.

December 2, 2011 at 4:43 p.m.
JJohn said...

I am impressed on how many Crime Scene Investigators frequent the Timesfreepress.com website.....

December 2, 2011 at 4:56 p.m.
chet123 said...

THIS MATTER NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED NOT BY WALDEN POLICE NOR HAMILTON COUNTY SHERIFF BUT THE TBI AND INSURANCE INVESTIGATORS.....THERE'S A PATTERN IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY...WIVES ARE DISPOSABLE.....AND THE LAW OFFICIAL HANDLE MISSING WIVES CASES AS IF IT MEANINGLESS.....THE LAW OFFICIAL MOVE TOO SLOW WITH THIS CASE......I KEPT UP WITH THE ORIGINAL STORY......AND ALL MY PREDICTION CAN TRUE.....SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT ABOUT THIS CASE....

ALSO NOTICE ON THE POSTING....MOST MALES HINTING AT CLOSING THE CASE....ASKING FOR AN APOLOGY TO HUSBAND...NOT SO FAST....NOT SO FAST!!!!

HOPE A LOT OF YOU NOW KNOW WHY I DONT CUT ANY LACK TO SOME OF THESE POSTERS.....BECAUSE THEY ARE FULL OF BULL....FULL OF BULL....AND THEY WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY THEY ARE PRO-LIFE ......

WINK! WINK!...THEY SAY IT BUT DONT SHOW IT...WINK! WINK!

December 2, 2011 at 5:04 p.m.
johnnyhurst said...

Only speaking of how treacherous that mountain can be. I don't have a concrete opinion on the matter of Mrs.Palmgren. There are a lot of folks hurting over this, and unlike your wanna be Nancy Grace ass Chet, Im not going to play the part of pharasees and try and influence the crucifixion of a potentialy innocent man.

December 2, 2011 at 5:38 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

chet123 said... huh huh!...I see RSultz210 is a FOX VEIWER TOO......maybe i can sale him some swamp land too.... ha ha ha

You know absolutely nothing about me or my interests. And you are the nastiest, most uncivilized individual I know of. I doubt if anyone on this thread actually takes you seriously. You are nothing but a hydrocephalic gorilla looking for a fight. If you act this way in public I hope somebody gives you a knuckle sandwich. It might teach you some manners. Of course, that assumes that you are capable of learning.

December 2, 2011 at 6:20 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

And by the way "chet" old boy, when did you get your GED? Judging by your grammar and spelling, it must have taken quite some time...LOL

December 2, 2011 at 6:59 p.m.
McRand said...

When looking at the street view of 1417 E. Brow Rd, there is a house directly across the street. Who is going to chance being seen pushing a car over at that point and taking a chance at being witnessed committing a crime? However, if someone were to decide to commit suicide, it would be a choice place. People that choose to take their own lives in a motor vehicle, most likely don't have much care for who sees them.

There are over 30,000 suicides a year in the USA alone each year.

It's very probable that this woman took her own life.

If my memory serves me right, I recall some commentary about her stopping unannounced and visiting some friends for a couple of days, and they stated that she was acting very strange.

My heart goes out to anybody that comes to the point of thinking that stresses in life are so unbearable that they would find death more inviting than going on living, but sadly, the numbers testify to the truth that is is more common that one might suspect.

December 2, 2011 at 7:05 p.m.
romegrl said...

I send my thoughts & prayers to Gail children, family, & friends. The disappearance was either a tragic MVA or homicide. Unfortunately, the LE (SM, Hamilton Co, & TBI) failed terribly & reflects badly upon their abilities. Area search should have been performed earlier especially with cell phone ping in area. Forensic evidence will be challenging to determine cause of death due to the decomposing, weather, time, and animals. Inconclusive death result creates more doubts & speculations for the family & community considering the high profile & contention relationships involved in this case. I hope the police agencies improve their procedures & processes for the sake of a missing person’s families and friends and regain public confidence in their abilities.

December 2, 2011 at 8:35 p.m.
Eric said...

If I was having problems in my marriage, caught in an affair, and my wife soon disappears, I would have lawyered up too. I don't have an opinion on whether Matt is innocent or guilty, but just because he lawyered up after everyone starting accusing him knocking off his wife doesn't mean he's guilty of anything.

December 2, 2011 at 9:11 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

If Gail Palmgren took her own life, as far as I am concerned she had every right to do so. In defense of this position I call everyone's attention to the following excerpt from an article titled "Suicide...A Civil Right":.. "In a truly free society, you own your life, and your only obligation is to respect the rights of others. I believe everyone is entitled to be treated as the sole owner of himself or herself and of his or her own life. Accordingly, I think a person who commits suicide is well within his or her rights in doing so provided he or she does so privately and without jeopardizing the physical safety of others. Family members, police officers, judges, and "therapists" who interfere with a person's decision to end his or her own life are violating that person's human rights. The often expressed view that the possibility of suicide justifies psychiatric treatment even if it must be imposed against the will of the potentially suicidal person is wrong." This is MY opinion also. I am sure there will be many who disagree, and all who do have a perfect right to disagree, and I would be false to my own political philosophy if I tried to abridge that right in any way. And of all who express an opposing viewpoint I ask only that they do so in a civilized manner without name calling and abuse the way some twerps in here do.

December 2, 2011 at 9:54 p.m.
prairiedog said...

No seat belt. Geez, what does it take to convince people to wear a seat belt. I once had my own life saved because I was securely strapped into my seat during a 100 mph crash. Typically, when accidents like this happen, the occupant is thrown out and the vehicle rolls over them. End of story. How sad, and what a waste.

December 2, 2011 at 9:55 p.m.
rolando said...

But prairiedog...seatbelts wrinkle your clothes. And they hurt your neck.

At least she didn't hurt her neck or wrinkle her clothes with one of the stupid things.

Although, in truth, I doubt her life would have been saved even if she had been wearing one.

Seatbelts are like bicycle/motorcycle helmets...those not wearing one are foolish and apt to die early.

December 2, 2011 at 10:55 p.m.
chet123 said...

JOHNNYHURTZ,RSHULTZ210,MCRAND,ROLANDO....THOUGHT I'D NEVER HEAR FROM YOU....ITS INTERESTED HOW YOU COME TO MATT RESCUE BEFORE ANY INVESTIGATION IS STARTED.....IS IT SOMETHING IN YOUR CULTURE....LET ME SEE....YOU BEAT YOUR WIFE AT HOME!!!! A HIT DOG WILL HOLLAR HA HA HA HA...ARE YOU WIFE BEATERS??? HA HA HA

SO YOU ARE WIFE BEATERS.HA HA HA...IS THATS WHY YOU ARE ON THE DEFENSE HA HA....THIS AREA IS KNOWN FOR HUSBAND BEATING AND KILLING THEIR WIVES.....MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE CRONIC COWARDS IN THIS AREA..

WE ALL REMEMBER SAM PARKER...YOU KNOW THE SHERIFF OF LAFAYETTE GA. OH SAM WAS A GOOD OLE BOY....HE WOULD NEVER HURT HIS WIFE....WELL SAM WAS A LAWMAN...HE WITHHOLD THE LAW....THAT WHAT THE RED NECK LIKE YOU SAID....WELL,WELL,WELL...THERESA PARKER REMAIN WAS FOUND 2YEARS LATER...DIED.....SAM HAD CLAIM SHE HAD RUN OFF HA HA HA...BUTT HEADS LIKE YOU DEFENDED A KILLER

OH YEAH, DONT FORGET TONEY POPE--- THIS LOONEY BEAT HIS WIFE TO DEATH WITH A HAMMER....CRACKED HER SKULL LIKE A WALNUT,THEN CHOKED HIS 12YEAR OLD STEP DAUGHTER TO DEATH,THEN CHOKED HIS 6MONTH OLD INFANT SON AND STOMPED HIM IN THE CHEST...THIS LOONEY WAS OUT ON PAROLE(BECAUSE THE JUSTICE SYSTEM DONT VALUE FEMALE LIFE)AFTER BEATING HIS GIRL-FRIEND TO DEATH WITH A SKILLET....HE WAS OUTRAGE BECAUSE HIS WIFE ASKED FOR A DIVORCE...

THEN THERES JOHN WISER...THIS FOOL BEAT WIFE TO DEATH IN FRONT OF THEIR TWO SONS

AND RECENTLY KENNETH GANN STRANGLED ROBYN GANN TO DEATH IN HIXSON

I CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.....THE STRANGE THING IS THERE ARE FOOLS LIKE YOU AND RSHULTZ210(RSHLTZ210 GET WIND IN HIS JAWS LIKE MATT IS HIS LOVER)WHO DEFEND WITH STAINS ON YOUR HANDS...I READ IN HISTORY BOOKS THE SOUTH WAS A PENAL COLONY FOR EUROPE..AFTER READING YOUR WATER-HEAD COMMENTS,,.I TRULY BELEIVE IT NOW.....HAVE A GOOD DAY FELLOW!!!!! HA HA HA

December 2, 2011 at 11:55 p.m.
chet123 said...

DID RSHULTZ210 SAY ANYTHING ABOUT POLITICAL PHYLOSOPHY HA HA HA HA....DONT SAY IT ..DONT SAY IT...DONT SAY IT....YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN HA HA HA HA

December 2, 2011 at 11:58 p.m.
MountainJoe said...

ALL CAPS LOL LOL WHATEVER chet123. Learn where the CAPS LOCK button is. Geez.

December 3, 2011 at 12:21 a.m.
jgg said...

I wouldn't be so quick to blame law enforcement for inaction. First of all, if she did drive (or was driven) off the brow, chances are she died on impact or shortly thereafter. Nothing that law enforcement or anyone else could have done (then or after) would bring her back from the dead.

Furthermore, there were several citizen organized search which also failed to discover either the jeep or her remains. What do you say to that?

There's not enough evidence processed at this point to either prove or disprove the husband's and/or girlfriend's involvement, much less rule suicide or negligence in or out. At least law enforcement has tangible evidence and a scene to process now. If there's anything to be found it will reveal itself soon enough. After 7 months, a few more weeks of forensic investigation isn't going to alter the outcome.

December 3, 2011 at 12:29 a.m.
Momus said...

How can we blame this on Obama?

December 3, 2011 at 4:01 a.m.
chet123 said...

They will...Obama or Clinton......ha ha

December 3, 2011 at 7:24 a.m.
dl said...

I am glad to see all those who unfairly accused Matt of murder have apologized.....oh wait, I haven't seen even 1 apology. All I heard for 7 months was "he did it".

December 3, 2011 at 7:24 a.m.
chet123 said...

What I am saying....Let the Investigation start.....Dont make this a closed case....and let experts investigate this case..not some of the local boys..guys who may be second cousin to MATT on their mama side..gail cant talk for herself....Let see what happen....and if i am wrong i will apologize...but if i'm right i look for an apology from people like RSHULTZ210 who seem to be absolute certain that gail committed suicide..RSHULTZ HAVE ALREADY DRAWN THE CONCLUSION GAIL PURPOSELY DROVE OFF THE ROAD..(this lady love her children)..she can not defend herself from bogus accusation like SOME HEARTLESS BOZO LIKE RSHULTZ210..let see what the investigation reveals.

December 3, 2011 at 7:45 a.m.
chet123 said...

DL....this is what i say to you....poor matt...poor matt...dont you think you may be a little premature Hmmmmmm i know this is wishful thinking for you.......but do me a favor.....Lets wait this out...OK?.......because there may be a chance....just maybe....just maybe....YOU WILL OWE THE APOLOGY!!!! OK? OK?? OK DL??

December 3, 2011 at 7:52 a.m.
dl said...

I hear you chet - BUT everyone drew the conclusion 7 months ago that he did it. That was what was premature. Let it play out before you convict him (or before we clear him). My point was that even if he is cleared, he will never get apologies owed to him by those who called him a murderer.

December 3, 2011 at 8:47 a.m.
chet123 said...

DL.....I WILL HOLD OFF FOR YOU.....YOU MADE A COMPELLING CASE....YOU ARE NOT LIKE THE REST OF THESE MORONS....YOU EXPRESS HUMILITY....have a good day DL!!!

December 3, 2011 at 9:29 a.m.
RShultz210 said...

For the record I never said that Gail Palmgren committed suicide. I said it looked likely that she did, and also said she had every right to. I also never said that Matt Palmgren was guilty or innocent. And chet123, you are STILL an oaf who can't read or write english properly. The only improvement in your ranting is that you finally dug all the toe jam out of your caps lock key. It so happens I'm not a Republican or Democrat and I decline to defend or even discuss my political philosophy with the likes of you in any case. If Matt Palmgren did indeed committ murder it will come out eventually, and if he didn't he is still unlikely to get an apology from the media or the people who have convicted him in the court of public opinion. And it won't do you any good to call me names because I don't care what you think of me. YOU are the only "bozo" I've seen in here. The crimes you were raving about happen everywhere, not just in the South. If you don't like the South, nobody is holding you here. You can leave anytime and I can promise you that you WON'T be missed.

December 3, 2011 at 10:09 a.m.
chet123 said...

RSHULTZ210....AH SORRY BOSS....AH JEST UH POE BOY FROM CHATNOOGIE...AH DIDNT GO TO SOCKY DAYCIE SCOOL LIKE YOU....I FETCH MY LEARNING AT MASTSHER HOUSE HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

DL I MADE A PROMISE TO YOU.....BUT WHEN DEALING WITH PENAL COLONY TRASH WHO BEAT HIS WIFE....ITS HARD FOR ME NOT TO UNLOAD.....

RSHULTZ....I KNOW YOUR WIFE.....SHE WILL BE MINE NOW PEE WEE!!

December 3, 2011 at 8:19 p.m.
chet123 said...

HA HA HA

December 3, 2011 at 8:20 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

This drivel doesn't deserve an answer. You don't know me or my wife and and you are a complete idiot. My wife will never be yours and if you intended that statement as a threat, be advised I am armed to the teeth and if you DO ever lay hands on her or even try, I will have no problem with shooting your dumb ass.

December 3, 2011 at 10:33 p.m.
chet123 said...

SHULTZ210....Hmmmmmmm.....stop crying..just having fun with you moron....i'm a lover not a hater...i will leave the violence to you .i really dont know if you are married or not ..and dont care ....if you want to be civil we can.....but you need to learn to respect....you want to be a smart butt....stop whining and crying and behave like an adult......

December 4, 2011 at 8:39 a.m.
chet123 said...

SHULTZ210...I RESPECT ALL WOMEN....THAT THE WAY I WAS RAISE FROM A CHILD...ALWAYS RESPECT THE FEMALE......AS MEN, WE ARE SUPPOSE TO PROTECT THEM NOT HURT THEM...This is why i'm concern about what happen to Gail.....but for you its just an accident..CASE CLOSED.

I DONT SEE IT THAT WAY.....Any Man who dont want his wife...beleive me there are men out there who would treat them like loyalty

December 4, 2011 at 8:55 a.m.
RShultz210 said...

You pick dangerous ways of "having fun". I know people who would track you down and shoot you just for posting that idiotic remark, and you are fortunate that I am not among them. I have been married to the same woman for 28 years and I have NEVER disrespected or committed violence on a woman. Your attitude toward, and disrespect for, the South is liable to get you killed if stupid remarks like the one you made don't. I don't know if Gail Palmgren died in an unfortunate accident, committed suicide, or was murdered. That is for the investigators to find. And none of my posts have been disrepectful to her or women in general and I defy you to find even one instance of disrespect. And, for the record, you are STILL a semi-literate oaf who can't read or write english properly and I don't intend to be civil to you. Your remarks about me and the South preclude my EVER being civil to you. You don't understand civility, and, in fact, I don't think from reading your posts that you would recognise it if it walked up and bit you on the ass! Your constant spelling errors,your incorrect punctuation, leaving out words, and general lack of semantic rigor of any sort indicate to me that you likely barely made it through high school and it was probably one of those schools that promote kids to keep them in the same age group. I hold a Bachelor's degree in secondary education and had I been teaching you either english or civics you would have failed both courses miserably. YOU are the disrespectful smartass. Not me.

December 4, 2011 at 1:25 p.m.
MarshaA said...

The problem, Eric, is not that Matt lawyered up after he was accused by many people. He lawyered up before he was accused at all -- and he was never accused by police. Plus his girlfriend and mother both lawyered up, too. They prevented police from searching the homes for months, and they took computers out of the homes before police could see them. These lawyers went to the media to say Gail was mentally ill, and Matt and the lawyers filed paperwork with the court to specifically imply she was heavily medicated and a danger to herself and others.

Much of the problem with this case has been the way Matt and his criminal defense attorneys acted. If the lawyers and police both knew all along that Gail's cell phone and GPS showed a 500 foot drop toward sea level at 12:25 PM on April 30th, WHY did they go to all that trouble to make Gail look bad? WHY didn't they help try to find Gail? It would have been so much easier to release the info and state they think an accident had occurred... but they didn't do that, and I would really like to know why.

December 4, 2011 at 10:52 p.m.
chet123 said...

RSHULTZ210....BLAH BLAH BLAH!..BLAH BLAH BLAH!!...YOU ARE BEING LAUGH AT BY OTHER POSTERS...DO YOU KNOW PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE READING AND LAUGHING AT YOU MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF.. It look like you are a violent person..and very fragile...if you cant talk an issue and tolerate other posters pushing back without going into a rage you should stay off of here pee wee.....I knew you were a weak man....and cry like a baby..whineeeeeeeeee!....get another past time interest buddy....you dont belong here.....did I bruise your ego by exposing your vulnerability????.....make you look inferior????...Got everybody on here laughing at you....WHITE GUY WITH BACHELOR DEGREE FROM TENNESSEE TEMPLE OUT FOXED BY 3rd grade non-writing, no good,ghetto BLACK GUY ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

You are a balloon head...ha ha ha....do you know how you sound...."I have a Bachelor's Degree" ha ha ha ha..."in secondary education".ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.....so you werent smart enough for medicine, engineering,or finance ha ha ha.....we call that Pseudo intelligent...ha ha ha what an EGG-HEAD YOU ARE!

December 5, 2011 at 2:32 a.m.
chet123 said...

A investigation, by TBI and other experts that are not local, need to be done before the door is shut on this case....This lady love her Children.....She would have never made it this convenient for HUBBY and HIS girl-friend!!!

He now get INSURANCE PAY OUT,Hmmmmm All three homes,Hmmmmm Dont have to pay child support,Hmmmmm keep the kids and the girl-friend!!!!

This doesnt look right....and the timing Hmmmmmmmm????

December 5, 2011 at 2:56 a.m.
chet123 said...

MARSHA...It sound as if they were setting up alibi by created doubts about her mental state.....It look very suspicious...Why didnt he bother looking for his wife....Thats his wife....cant understand how he could be so disdain and disengage.....Did he already know her faith and was covering his own tail???

December 5, 2011 at 8:23 a.m.
chet123 said...

What happen to my friend RSHULTZ210....maybe his head exploded!

December 5, 2011 at 1:44 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

Actually I'm sure that people are laughing but I'm also sure that it's YOU they're laughing at....you and your illiterate raving. Actually I hope I can keep you raving at me, because it's highly entertaining...to ME anyway. It's so easy to push your buttons it's incredible! And I'm sure the horrible grammar and the incredibly bad spelling are useful as bad examples if nothing else. BTW I went to UT, not Temple. And if you are worried, as you seem to be, that I'm "technically challenged" I also hold an HONORS Associate's Degree in Information Systems Technology from Chattanooga State with a GPA of 3.54 and I am a certified Journeyman Nuclear Instrument Technician having gone through TVA's Apprenticeship Program where I made record high marks. So tell us, where did YOU "gradgeayte" from third grade? Dickville Elementree? LOL!

December 5, 2011 at 2:23 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

MarshaA I think I can tell you why Matt Palgren did what he did. It's really very simple. He was well aware, as anyone who has had first hand experience with cops can tell you, that they are Neanderthals who would simply look for someone to railroad in a situation like this so they could get their paperwork done and go back to swilling coffee and cramming doughnuts into their faces. He was simply taking logical precautions. I am sure that this makes him look guilty to a lot of folks, but as I've said before, there are many born conspiracy theorists out there ready to look for the worst in anybody, and COPS are TRAINED to look for the worst in everybody. I don't blame for him doing any of what he did because their are going to be people who will be sure he's guilty of SOMETHING no matter what he does, and even though the data from the event recorder on the jeep all indicates that this was indeed probably a tragic and unfortunate accident.

December 5, 2011 at 2:52 p.m.
chet123 said...

RSHULTZ210....there go mr.bachelor degree..ha ha ha you are kind of old to only have a bachelor ha ha(4years)..and i was reading your comment bragging on graduating from chatt.Community college.....as smart as you are i would think you had a DOCTORATE IN QUANTUM PHYSIC FROM MIT,,or at least a PHD or a DJUR DOCTOR OF JURISPRUDENCE..ha ha ha ha.....are you so stupid that you dont know that you sounding like an idiot...maybe you got a corresponding high school diploma....ha ha ha You are kind of old to only have a bachelor DEGREE Secondary Education.....How does it feel to be upstage by a non-writer,non-reader,oaf, no good,ghetto BLACK MAN ha ha ha ha ha

RSHULTZ210...I know who i am....but its a shame you dont know who you are ha ha ha....i would have been ashame to boost such a weak resume as you have..... you claim to be teaching at your age with only a bachelor degree ha ha ha.WHAT SCHOOL WILL LET YOU THROUGH THE DOOR OLD MAN.........RSHULTZ210 YOU ARE A GENERATION FROM A PIG FARMER....you are so proud of that bachelor degree because you are a first generation to get a high school and college education....you bar was set LOW ha ha ha.ha ha ha ha....

December 5, 2011 at 7:56 p.m.
chet123 said...

RSULTZ210...I hope you dont try to back peddle what you said earlier about the w-road case.....You were trying to plant the seed of Suicide.....But i call you out!!...now you trying to play the middle ha ha....posters can go back and read your comments on Gail!

December 5, 2011 at 8:04 p.m.
chet123 said...

LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO RETURN

December 5, 2011 at 8:06 p.m.
MarshaA said...

RSchultz, I honestly don't think that makes a lot of sense. The police didn't appear to be out to get Matt from the beginning. It wasn't like Matt was badgered by the police and had to get lawyers to get them off his back. Let's say for the sake of argument he did feel badgered by the police and wanted to prevent false accusations, why then did the lawyers badmouth Gail in the press? It didn't help them at all, it just made them all look bad and more suspicious than they already were.

December 6, 2011 at 8:04 a.m.
hixsondave said...

Chet if you really have a BS degree in secondary education like you say. It explains a lot about our schools and you. Thanks for the clarity.

December 6, 2011 at 8:18 a.m.
chet123 said...

HIXSONDAVE...Learn how to read !!!!!!And if you going to put your 2cents in read Shultz210 comment on Dec 4th 1:25 am and Dec 5th 2:23PM.......

December 6, 2011 at 10:55 a.m.
chet123 said...

POOR GAIL PAMGREN have lost of life and we have people posting their pseudo degrees......What insensitivity to Gail and her children!!!

December 6, 2011 at 10:59 a.m.
RShultz210 said...

MarshaA I see your point, but you must understand that you are looking at this from the point of view of someone who does not have a great deal of first hand experience with cops. From Matt's actions at least it appeared to me, and I could be wrong, that Matt was doing what anyone who has a bad time from cops at some point would do. If you don't know what lowlifes they are, and how they can intimidate people without saying a word, just from their mannerisms and tone of voice because thay are TRAINED to do that, then NO it would not appear to make sense. I can only tell you that from MY experience with them, which has been ALL BAD, and none of which was my fault, Matt was doing what I would have done in his situation. As to the lawyers, I have had to deal with them a fair amount also, and they're kind of breed of their own. They don't ALWAYS consult with a client before they do something, and for all I know, Matt may not be any happier about that than other folks are. I would also be the first to admit that this is speculation on my part and I could be wrong. I also would have to admit that my opinion of all law enforcement personnel is obviously VERY low and does influence the way I think about this whole situation. I am trying to keep an open mind despite what this moron chet123 says about me, and I'm ignoring him now anyway because it's way too easy to bait him and set him off and it's getting boring. I would simply like to point out that at no time have I said that Gail Palmgren took her own life. I have merely stated that from the data available that explanation is at least as likely as it being an accident. We may never know because the data only tells us WHAT she did, and not WHY. I only hope Matt Palmgren is granted privacy, and the benefit of the doubt because he deserves both until proven otherwise. I am not usually this long winded, but unlike some others that I need not name, you are civilized and deserve as clear and civil a reply as I can give.

December 6, 2011 at 12:52 p.m.
chet123 said...

YEAH YEAH YEAH...SURE SURE SURE...YOU trying to back peddle....please read your posting on DEC 2, 2:28PM...you said "It been established that this was likely an accident...You telling Marsha you are trying to keep an open mind??..AN OPEN MIND????,,,AN.....OPEN....MIND???? THANKS GOODNESS POSTING ARE KEPT ON RECORDS..OR YOU WOULD BE IN DENIAL!!..AND CALLING ME OUT OF MY NAME

SHULTZ210...I called you out on implying this case is closed and you get mad called me a Moron, a oaf,...goes into a rage....behave as if you would kill yourself!! I have nothing personal against you SHULTZ...but be honest...I MAY BE A BUTT sometime....but i dont double tongue..I dont lie....honesty is the best policy.

December 6, 2011 at 2:49 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

To HIXSONDAVE

I will not rail at you about learning how to read, as you are obviously well educated and aware of the problem we have had with our public school system for about the last 30 years or so. It's emphasis on self esteem and political correctness has produced a whole generation of people like Chet123. Unfortunately the real world bears very little resemblence to what they are taught. As you undoubtedly know, the REAL world requires that you actually accomplish something before you feel good about yourself. I will simply suggest that you read both my posts and Chet123's and you will quickly discover who has the Bachelor's degree and who doesn't and who has a self esteem problem and who doesn't. I wish you a good day.

December 6, 2011 at 2:51 p.m.
chet123 said...

RSHULTZ210...what do you know about well educated....RSHULTZ210....This area is not the cradle of education....maybe your "BAR" is set low

December 6, 2011 at 3:03 p.m.
chet123 said...

SHULTZ, THIS IS HOW YOU SOUND...I have a bachelor degree.....you still dont get it..you just dont get it!!!!...reader from all over this state and world are reading these posting....WAKE-UP MAN!...a bachelor degree is not a big deal....you must be the first generation of college...you are a generation from a dirt farmer...is that why you boosting???? Hmmmm

Mrs Gail Pamgren lost her life and you talking about you went to college..HOW INSENSITIVE CAN A SO-CALL EDUCATED MAN BE......now who the EGG-HEAD

December 6, 2011 at 3:16 p.m.
chet123 said...

RSHULTZ....YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS BEING A PROBLEM IN THE LAST 30 YEARS.....

My Question to you is what did Chattanooga OR Hamilton SCHOOL SYSTEM produce in the previous years....Please tell me....just tell me.....I WILL TELL YOU!...NOTHING!...NOTHING!!!...NOTHING!!!....

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS....FOLKS LIKE YOU HAVE DRIVEN THIS TOWN IN THE GROUND.....CITIES LIKE NASHVILLE AND SMALLER CITIES LIKE HUNTSVILLE ALA.. AND KNOXVILLE HAVE LEFT CHATTANOOGA STANDING IN THE DUST....THEY HAVE BETTER PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF HIGHER EDUCATION 4yearsINSTITUTION with accredit hours.....HOW MANY 4year COLLEGES DO WE HAVE HERE IN CHATTANOOGA OR HAMILTON COUNTY THAT ARE ACCREDITED SCHOOL...Hmmmmmm...UTC!.....your degree is no good....SORRY SHULTZ

December 6, 2011 at 3:30 p.m.
RShultz210 said...

Chet123 You STILL don't get it do you? I've baited you for 4 days now and you've been sucking it in like a catfish every time.....LOL You're so up in the air you don't know whether to sh*t or wind your watch! LOL I LOVE doing this but it REALLY is getting boring....{ho hum} BTW I went to UT Knoxville not UTC...sorry...couldn't resist one last little tweak.

December 6, 2011 at 5:23 p.m.
chet123 said...

RSHULTZ...."I dont get it"...Hmmmmmm....Where have i heard that from....stealing my lines Hmmmmm...you said you been baiting me in...ha ha ha ha.....baiting me in ha ha ha ha.....I had to back off on you....you were crying like a baby whineeeeeeee...i felt sorry for you ha ha ha ha....YOU WERE TALKLING ABOUT FIST FIGHTING...HA HA YOU AND I FIST FIGHTING LIKE A JUVENILE HA HA HA....go back and see your posting DEC.4 1:25PM.. HA HA HA HA

DEC.4th 1:25PM....SHULTZ210 posting.....ha ha ha ha ha...i had to back off...thought the OLD BOY WAS BLOWING A GASKET ha ha ha "didnt want you to push my jeep off a cliff" it was so funny ha ha ha ha...yeah i had you going....but i really think you are OK...maybe sometime you and i will do the lunch thing at my expense..i wont inflame nor incite you....

SEE YOU HAVE COLLECTED YOUR COMPOSURE!!!! I PUSHED YOU TO THE LIMIT...NOW YOU TALKING WITH MORE CALMNESS. HA HA HA

December 7, 2011 at 9:16 a.m.
hurricane74 said...

@AuntJane..... dead bodies and cold engines kinda don't give off heat, DUH.

December 9, 2011 at 11:39 a.m.
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