published Sunday, July 10th, 2011

Short Order

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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nucanuck said...

Clay has thrown political correctness to the four winds. To point out that we either have to consume vastly less or reduce population vastly does not go down well in these parts.

Can anyone here imagine Big Ridge Patriot living in a yurt and growing his own food?

Can anyone here imagine worldwide population back down to two billion?

The planet earth is yelling UNCLE.

July 10, 2011 at 12:16 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

WELCOME BACK, CLAY

Sorry the weather didn't cooperate. Hope you had a good time anyway and sorry we couldn't make it over there. Next time, give us a heads up that you'll be in town and we might even spring for lunch!

Anyway, do you really want to remind the ignorant masses that the population is growing while the supply of fossil fuel is shrinking? Really? The tea bagging pro-OPEC cabal will howl in outrage.

Again, welcome back.

July 10, 2011 at 12:17 a.m.
Momus said...

In a year we use resources that it takes the earth 1.3 years to restore. (National Geographic)

July 10, 2011 at 12:34 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

A.D. 1850: Ooh, we're running out of whales. What can we burn in our lamps when whale oil runs out? A.D. 1900: Ooh, every horse in America generates 40 pounds of manure every day. We'll be overwhelmed by this pollution! And at the rate telephones are spreading, soon we'll need more telephone switchboard operators than we have women in America.

Read Genesis 1. God is creative and communicative, and He made man in his own image. Yeah, there are problems. And creative people solve them.

nc, PC generally means liberal orthodoxy, and Clay's cartoon toes the PC party line, as usual. Your definition is clear (thank you), but eccentric.

blackie, care to tell us how educated you are, as distinct from "the ignorant masses" you love so much and write about so politely? Ron Paul is a doctor in a real subject, medicine.

May I remind you that the national debt is growing at a higher rate than the national production of wealth? ('The trouble with liberalism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money'--Margaret Thatcher?) Oil isn't the only somewhat-limited resource.

July 10, 2011 at 12:44 a.m.
hambone said...

**OK! OK! Who's charading as Andrew?

July 10, 2011 at 12:57 a.m.
hambone said...

**OK! OK! Who's charading as Andrew?

July 10, 2011 at 1 a.m.
nucanuck said...

Andrew, do you think God could could have made a mistake in his human engineering design? Evidence seems to be piling up that we are making a muck of things.

July 10, 2011 at 1:25 a.m.

Andrew,

I am sure "God" created people like you in his own image..

Big fat asses in huge oversized gas eating SUV's with a gun in the back with the daily goal of maximising food and energy waste...

I am sure if there is a god his creation failed miserably with idiots like you

July 10, 2011 at 2:15 a.m.
EaTn said...

Last year was bumper year for the little critters that depend on nuts and acorns to survive the winter. Come spring they were all around fat and happy. These crops come in cycles, and this year I noticed very few nuts and acorns are on the trees so many critters will not survive the coming winter. Intelligent humans have overcome cyclic and limited resources as is evident in the exploding populations, but has nature finally said "the bar is closed"?

July 10, 2011 at 5:28 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Andrew - God is, indeed, creative. But, with dominion, we also have been given the responsibility of stewardship. Dominion is not license for selfishness and humanity is selfish.

July 10, 2011 at 7:02 a.m.
jimbob said...

Man is his own worst enemy.

July 10, 2011 at 7:13 a.m.
Clara said...

MTJohn,

Yes! I agree. And the numbers of politicians who have been placed in position in every country to see to it that true dominion is followed is negligable.

Thanks Clay.

July 10, 2011 at 8:48 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

oh, i think you libs are doing your part to thin out the population. sliding toward 60 million abortions since 1973.... the chinese have done a bang up job with it as well.

how about you lefties put your money where your mouth is and lead the way.....lead by example. plenty of cliffs to jump off of, plenty of oceans and rivers to drown in, plenty of skyscrapers to jump off of....you get the picture. how about bicycling down to brazil and then throwing your- selves into a pirhana infested river....?

sorry, blackwater new and large discoveries of fossil fuels are found all the time. just waiting to be tapped. meanwhile, you libs start working on some "green energy" that will actually work and be profitable. it's oil, gas, coal, hydro and nuclear. until you have a real alternative...shut your pie holes.

hey, austrian...why do you feel the need to grace this forum with your fat, nazi ass? shouldn't you be shoving some weiner schnitzel down your throat while reading mein kampf for the 700th time? you seem irritated this morning. is your lederhosen to tight for your ever expanding, pasty white posterior? you nazis did a good job of trying to depopulate the earth. you thinking of doing it again?

July 10, 2011 at 9:35 a.m.
rolando said...

Whew! This thread has gotten down to the essentials rather quickly; think I'll sit out the remainder of this one...

July 10, 2011 at 9:47 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

i find that you lefties have become much more testy over the last few weeks. you must be thinking mark halprin is right.

i know what you libs are thinking..is there any way to dump obumble and replace him with n.y. governor cuomo.

i also notice much more gray in on obumble's empty, lightbulb shaped noggin.

time to go to maa'tha's vinyard again and slurp icecream, and strap a helmet on that big ol' noggin and ride bicycles again. it 's good to get away from reality.

July 10, 2011 at 9:54 a.m.
JoeHill said...

It's fitting that Mr. Bennett used a hamburger patty to bring attention to the increasing rate of upheaval and conflict related to the growing scarcity of natural resources for a crowded planet.

While cows evolved to eat and digest grass, we've ineffeciently diverted grain crops for direct human consumption to feed cattle for beef production for later human consumption. This process is very wasteful. Ecological ecnonomists have noted grain fed cattle production accounts for much of the fact that a serving of meat uses 20 times more energy than an equivalent serving of bread. This at a time when fossil fuels are in increasing demand relative to supply. It also takes almost 20 times more water to supply 500 calories from beef than from rice. This when water aquifers are being depleted throughout the world.

It's interesting to note that the Arab Spring revolts are occuring in countries that have had to not only import large quantities of their grain consumption, but also have water scarcity issues. Egypt and Yemen, for instance, are cases in point.

July 10, 2011 at 10:49 a.m.
NoMyth said...

Tennessee, with a 32% obesity rate, clearly needs a bigger hamburger.

July 10, 2011 at 11:17 a.m.
sandyonsignal said...

Affluenza days are over. Look at places like Atlanta, who now need our water;yet, they did no planning or conservation. Why should we give them anything when they will just continue to consume it until its gone with no regard to planning and development?

Years ago, I read someone's take on the water woes: there is both good news and bad news. The good news is we will all be drinking sewage in our water; the bad news is there won't be enough of it to go around.

July 10, 2011 at 12:37 p.m.
rick1 said...

Take a look at ethanol and how it has caused the high cost of food prices through out the world. Both demorcrats and republicans are in the pockets of big agriculture.

In an excellent article written earlier this year by Robert Bryce he writes. This year, the US corn ethanol sector will consume 40 percent of all US corn – that’s about 15 percent of global corn production or 5 percent of all global grain – in order to produce a volume of motor fuel with the energy equivalent of about 0.6 percent of global oil needs….The quantity of grain to be consumed this year for US ethanol production – 4.9 billion bushels – boggles the mind. That’s more than twice as much as all the corn produced in Brazil and more than six times as much as is grown in India. Put another way, that’s more corn than the output of the European Union, Mexico, Argentina, and India combined.

Bryce also stated: “Congress not only lavishes subsidies on the corn ethanol scam, it has mandated the use of corn ethanol, and provided tariff protections to an industry that is helping push global food prices to all-time highs and shrink grain reserves at the very same time that global grain production is faltering and protests over food prices are commonplace.”

http://www.energytribune.com//articles.cfm/6681/Biofuels-Driving-Up-Food-Prices-As-Iowa-Primary-Approaches-

Once again government makes reckless policies, which hurts the poor people they are claiming to help.

July 10, 2011 at 12:42 p.m.

seamonkey,

your comments reach again an intellectual all-time-low. Is Hitler the only thing you can come up with ?? This reflects your narrow southern horizon ...

By the way, not even five years in Alabama could let my ass grow fat, I was always wondering why being conservative and humongously fat is so correlated. Like the republican convention, which reflects the picture of a horror tunnel of uglyness...

July 10, 2011 at 1:32 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

not really, austrian.....actually i've lived in many places before i lived down here. if you hate it so much, why did you come here? hitler comes to mind when i think of euro-trash like you who love demagogues/thugs, and slamming a boot to everyone's neck.

leslie is right on....did you read her post, austrian.,you dummkopf? how about moving to texas and spouting your philosophy and see how quickly you're laughed at? i love texas....the worst nightmare for leftist trash like you.

rick, great post on the ethonal..the perfect example of the influence of enviro-wackos on stupid leftist politicians.

July 10, 2011 at 2:11 p.m.
fairmon said...

There are only so many resources and so much wealth in the world. When one nation increases consumption and wealth it stands to reason another will have less unless more resources are available and more wealth is created. Wealth is only created by manufacturing, mining, farming and fishing. All other activities are in support of these or services paid for either directly or indirectly by the wealth creators.

Enabling American producers to be more competitive by passing H.R. 25 and S. 13 is a way to essentially eliminate all the deficiencies and unfairness in the current 11 million and growing words of tax regulations. Compliance and enforcement cost equal about 22-23 cents of every dollar of revenue. A large number of economist and several members of congress endorse and support it. But, there is an uphill battle with the power brokers in congress and the wealthy sector. Both pretty formidable opposition.

See testimony in front of the ways and means committee at:

fairtax.org

July 10, 2011 at 2:26 p.m.
rick1 said...

Thank you Seamonkey, the article is an eye opener.

July 10, 2011 at 2:27 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

A RISING TIDE SINKS ALL BOATS

Government subsidized ethenol makes no more sense than government subsidized petroleum.

If you monkeys are trying to score political points by grandstanding by all means knock yourselves out. Literally.

Try to think in terms of what's best for the poor and middle class, not just what's best for the filthy rich.

A wise man would invest in petroleum futures because as supplies dwindle and demand increases - just look around the world and see what's going on - the price of EVERYTHING, including food, will rise.

Thank you for your attention. We now return to another round of incomprehensible rants from the knot headed tea bagging fools.

July 10, 2011 at 3:04 p.m.
rolando said...

The millennium has indeed arrived...SignalSandy and I agree on something...see her 12:37PM posting.

As a SoCal native son who witnessed the rape of natural resources to satisfy those who refuse to conserve, we could not agree more about Atlanta's wasteful ways re: water.

Those fools in SoCal diverted entire rivers - huge ones - using aqueducts and canals to feed their greed with the result of turning the lower reaches saline [from the ocean tides]. Their Department of Dirty Tricks worked overtime. Their misdeeds are legion.

Frisco has gone so far as to empty/divert water from what naturalist John Muir called "The Little Yosemite" valley...all for its private use...and barred all but the elite from the lodges it built up there. [Google John Muir Trail in Tennessee for his input to our part of the country.]

The day Atlanta develops and puts in place a realistic water-use program will be the day I begin to support them. Otherwise they will eventually empty Nickajack.

July 10, 2011 at 5:30 p.m.
Clara said...

This Blog has sunk to a new level of irresponsible posting by the likes of Seamonkey!

That's the last thing I feel I can write about him.

There are a few spots that have risen to the challenge of food shortages. Isreal has done wonders with the desert they were given. Now if only their problems with their neighbors could be solved.

When giant food corporations took over, profit was the motive. Every time their was a failure in producing food, due to drought, storm or insect infestation, the price of the article went up and never came down.

Here is just one Web site from the Chinese that exposes China's failure to guard against tainted food and its attempt to remedy the problem. Their population control attempts have aided the country in feeding their own, as unpopular as it is with the masses.

Those that lost children in the earthquake that killed many, wer at least compensated by being permitted to add another child to the family. It sounds hard but fair. It's food producers, however are an example of greed in producing sub-standard food.

Guess I'd better shut up as I get weary of being called unhealthy names.

I haven't the time to look up how much it costs us for processed animal products and safety. It hasn't been very good these last few years.

POO!

July 10, 2011 at 5:37 p.m.
hambone said...

I've said this before, but today it seems to fit many.

"If they were giving out free ice cream, there are some people who would grip about the flavor."

July 10, 2011 at 7:21 p.m.

The scheme only works if humans are merely expendable consumers.

OVERHEARD INSIDE GREEN MOVEMENT TURF BATTLES:

Simon Butler of the Green Left Weekly reports:

“The world is not 'full.' The world is not experiencing runaway population growth. While population is growing, the rate of this growth is actually slowing down. This is mostly due to rising urbanisation and marginal improvements in women's access to birth control technology. The rate of population growth peaked at 2% annually in the 1960s, and has fallen consistently since then.

“According to the UN, the average number of children born per woman fell from 4.9 in the late 1960s to 2.7 in 1992. A December 2008 assessment from the US Census Bureau predicts a steady decline to 0.5% annual population growth by 2053. “Between 1950 and 2000 world population increased by 140%. Experts predict a rise of 50% between 2000 and 2050 and just 11% in the 50 years following that.”

“For centuries, simplistic population theories have been advanced to explain the existence of poverty, hunger, famine, disease, war, racism and unemployment. In each case, the real social and economic causes of these social ills have been glossed over.”

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/41758

July 10, 2011 at 9:01 p.m.

Simon Butler of the Green Left Weekly reports:

“Population control has a disturbing history. In practice, there has never been a population control scheme that has led to acceptable environmental or humanitarian outcomes. Columbia University professor Matthew Connelly has thoroughly documented this disturbing history in his 2008 book Fatal Misconception.

“China's one-child policy has been hailed as an environmental measure by prominent population theorists such as Britain's Jonathan Poritt. But he and others ignore that China's population control has hardly solved that country's growing environmental problems.

“The human costs of the policy, however, are shocking. Until 2002, Chinese women were denied any choice of contraceptive method — 37% of married women have been forcibly sterilised. Female infanticide has reached epidemic proportions. The global ratio for male to female births is 106:100. In China today, male "births" outnumber females by 120:100.”

“At its worst, population control schemes put the blame for climate change on the poorest people in the global South — those least responsible for the problem in the first place …"

“Who holds political power is the real 'population' issue … Population control narrowly looks only at the quantity of human beings to find a solution to climate change. Ultimately, its narrow vision makes it a divisive policy.”

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/41758

July 10, 2011 at 9:06 p.m.
AndrewLohr said...

blackwater48 (3:04pm), all prices are going up? Julian Simon bet the opposite and won, and nobody'd bet him again.

austrian (1:32pm), is Sarah Palin really a "horror tunnel of ugliness"?

rick1, right on on ethanol, government starving the poor to enrich ADM. Maybe this boondoggle is going down at last?

sandyonsignal, 30 years ago we knew how to make sewage-plant output clean enough to drink; read Jerry Pournelle's A STEP FARTHER OUT used or online, and still worthwhile--Carternomics resembled Obamanomics.

MTJohn, I agree. Stewardship not just consumption. And "humanity is selfish," including big-government politicians and the voters whose votes they buy with tax dollars and with regulations protecting special-interest groups from competition. Remember how James Buchanan won his Nobel Prize: pointing out that rulers are human.

austrian (am), I think you were describing Bill Clinton, not me; you obviously know nothing about my lifestyle. (Look me up on associatedcontent.com, youtube.com, and amazon.com, and, oh yeah, my website lohr84.com. As here, I use my real name. Think of it as a rehearsal for the Judgment Day.)

nucanuck, my Bible tells me people goof up. Sorry you didn't get past the first page. (My mirror, my newspaper, and this website tell me the same.) Bible also says God can handle messes, and loves us enough to do so. People mess up except for Jesus Christ, so follow Him. That's an order (Acts 17). I'm not the Enforcer.

[Off topic, hambone, if you don't recognize me, maybe the theological liberals who chatter of 1st/2nd/3rd Isaiah and the like should think again and repent.]

July 10, 2011 at 10:18 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

RELEVANCE?

Andy said, "blackwater48 (3:04pm), all prices are going up? Julian Simon bet the opposite and won, and nobody'd bet him again."

You were trying to present a 'gotcha moment' to my statement that as petroleum supplies dwindle, "the price of EVERYTHING, including food, will rise."

Your hero, Mr. Simon, bet that during the decade of the 1980s, the price of chromium, nickel, tin, and tungsten would not rise. Sorry dude, I don't see the connection.

Tungsten?

Remembering Julian Simon showed how commodity futures can be tricky, but in 2001, anyone should have recognized, with the past as prologue, the chaos Bush and his trickle down policies would inflict on the U.S. economy. Not everyone agreed. Maybe Simon would have bet against gold rising in the 2000s, but if YOU begged and borrowed every penny you could get your hands on in 2001 and bought gold at $270 an ounce, you would be sitting pretty in 2010 when gold soared over $1400 an ounce.

If you could make a bet with Simon today, and he predicted that in ten years the wholesale price of crude would be lower than it is today, would you take the bet?

July 10, 2011 at 11:23 p.m.

Seamonkey,

I was talking about the majority on the street. (White) fat guys are overwhelmingly republicans. That was a statistical obvservation.

I would not care less about you doing whatever you want if it would not affect all of us in particular on the topic of environmental protection. Your idiotic resistance against protective measures concerns all of us, together with your immense waste of energy and resources.

And the worst of all is that YOU do it in the name of GOD... like the middle ages.

July 11, 2011 at 1:41 a.m.

“The assistant professor of history at Columbia University has delivered a devastating account of the population-control movement; he demonstrates, detail by shocking detail, how a movement that believed it was acting from the highest humanitarian ideals became responsible for callous abuses of human rights on a global scale, ruining millions of lives in a grotesque eugenic experiment.

“It is appropriate that such a book has been written by an American. For, as Connelly shows, the population-control movement was bankrolled by America's biggest private fortunes - the Ford family foundation, John D Rockefeller III, and Clarence Gamble (of Procter & Gamble). These gentlemen shared not just extreme wealth but a common anxiety: the well-to-do and clever (people like them, obviously) were now having much smaller families than their ancestors, but the great unwashed - Chinamen! Indians! Negroes! - were reproducing themselves in an irresponsible manner. What they feared was a kind of Darwinism in reverse - the survival of the unfittest.

“Their patron saint (though she would have abhorred this term) was Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. Sanger, herself the sixth of 11 children, proclaimed that, “The third group of society are those irresponsible and reckless ones having little regard for the consequence of their acts...many of this group are diseased, feeble-minded and dependent upon the normal and fit members of society for their support. There is no doubt in the mind of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped.

“This was to become a global mission for the likes of Gamble, who saw the teeming masses of Asia as ideal subjects for his gimcrack experiments with low-cost contraception. Gamble cooked up in his own laboratory something called “salt rice jelly” which, via the good offices of the International Planned Parenthood Foundation, was pushed up the vaginas of countless Indians.”

from Dominic Lawson’s book review of Fatal Misconception by Matthew Connelly (The Sunday Times, May 18, 2008)

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/non-fiction/article3938455.ece

July 11, 2011 at 7:34 a.m.

“This was nothing compared to some of the devices that these characters inflicted indiscriminately on the bodies of the women of the subcontinent. The interuterine device known as the Dalkon shield had already been the subject of lawsuits in America: it featured rows of prongs that made it extremely painful to insert or remove and had a multifilament “tail” that provided a path for infection. Hundreds of thousands of these unsellable monstrosities were enthusiastically picked up on the cheap by the head of USaid's ‘population programme’ - with inevitably gruesome consequences.

“This was not considered a problem by those in the front line of the “war against population explosion” - far from it. A note of a 1962 conference speech by one of those warriors, JRobert Willson, the chair of obstetrics and gynaecology at Temple University, makes this all too clear: ‘We have to stop functioning like doctors. If we look at this from an overall, long-term point of view...perhaps the individual patient is expendable in the general scheme of things, particularly if the infection she acquires is sterilising but not lethal.”

from Dominic Lawson’s book review of Fatal Misconception by Matthew Connelly (The Sunday Times, May 18, 2008)

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/non-fiction/article3938455.ece

July 11, 2011 at 7:41 a.m.
sandyonsignal said...

That burger could be a lot bigger, if you were to supplement it with soylent green.

July 11, 2011 at 7:43 a.m.
jaredstory said...

The problem with this cartoon is that it oversimplifies our ecological crisis as a population problem when it is a problem of capitalist, imperialist exploitation of resources. When the crisis is oversimplified as a population problem, it makes it easy for the capitalists to blame the ecological crisis on developing nations and poor people. Capitalism is incompatible with the earth's ecology; incompatible with the just and sustainable use and distribution of resources; and,ultimately, is incompatible with the survival of humanity. A more appropriate cartoon would be a couple of Americans elbowing their way past eight other people representing the rest of the world to grab half the burger for themselves-half of which to eat and the other half to throw in the garbage.

July 11, 2011 at 10:01 a.m.
Clara said...

In addition to the following posted link, the page offers other links attending to the problem.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101111092652.htm

July 11, 2011 at 1:03 p.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Gotta stop breeding like flies in them third-word countries. And maybe nuke China, India and Pakistan, then we got food and not so many people.

July 11, 2011 at 2:01 p.m.

Leftist wackos, like Clayduh, drag-out the well-worn "over populaton" and "food shortage crisis" every few years or so. And what happens?

Logical thinking people continue to thrive and improve our lives and lifestyles because we know that life and time does not stand still. We innovate, we invent, and we improve life and lifestyles. Has Clay ever heard of fire? Electricity? Microwave ovens?

Read Matt Ridley's The Rational Optimist where he highlights the foolishness of these wackos and their energy, food, climate, and disease crisis.

July 11, 2011 at 4:27 p.m.
rolando said...

Here is today's counterpoint -- also know as the Mallard Fillmore strip --- http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Mallard_Fillmore/

July 11, 2011 at 4:50 p.m.
fairmon said...

Enabling American producers to be more competitive by passing H.R. 25 and S. 13 is a way to essentially eliminate all the deficiencies and unfairness in the current 11 million and growing words of tax regulations. Compliance and enforcement cost equal about 22-23 cents of every dollar of revenue. A large number of economist and several members of congress endorse and support it. But, there is an uphill battle with the power brokers in congress and the wealthy sector. Both pretty formidable opposition.

See testimony in front of the ways and means committee at:

fairtax.org

If you agree contact your senator and congressman.

July 11, 2011 at 5:09 p.m.
rolando said...

Here's an even better counterpoint to Clay's effort:

http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/2011/07/11/89607

July 11, 2011 at 5:49 p.m.
WhitesCreek said...

Clay points out the disparity between resources and population and the righties go off accusing him of advocating population control. Rational discussion is difficult when one side holds to a civility below the level of a middle school hallway.

July 12, 2011 at 7:25 a.m.
tderng said...

ho-hum......

July 12, 2011 at 9:05 a.m.
potcat said...

`` Sunday, i wasted 30 minutes of my time writting a comment on "Short Order" for this thread, and after clicking post 5 times and it not accepting my comment, i gave up.

`` Complete waste of time... hmmm...

July 12, 2011 at 10:36 a.m.

"Clay... yada, yada, yada... rational discussion is difficult when one side holds to a civility below the level of a middle school hallway."

One side... are you new here?

July 12, 2011 at 11:29 a.m.
alprova said...

Update: The Republicans believe that the solutions to reducing deficit spending are best addressed by drastically reducing spending in Social Security, Medicare, Planned Parenthood, school lunches, college tuition aid, and many more worthwhile programs.

But there can be no discussion whatsoever of taxing the rich another dime. They cannot afford it.

When GWB was in office, four trillion Dollars was borrowed and the debt ceiling was raised seven times. $2.7 trillion was borrowed and is still owed to Social Security. The Republicans have fought for years to end social programs.

Clearly, given the public statements of John Boehner and Mitch McConnell, there can be little doubt at this point that they are absolutely protecting the wallets of the rich and could not care less about the well being of those who have much less.

The Republican Party, by and large, got us into this mess and they are trying so hard to blame President Obama for it. People with a brain and who have followed this in it's entirety know better.

The 2012 elections are going to involve a very big swing of the pendulum back the other way. If Republicans think that they will convince America that the only course of action to addressing the national debt is to pay it off while walking on the backs of those on a fixed income, while the rich continue to pay nothing more, then they are sorely mistaken.

Seniors are starting to fill the forums across America with commentary that shows that they are not happy with what they are reading and hearing by the Republicans.

I pray this time that the President holds his ground on forcing an expiration to those Bush tax cuts and demanding a closing of the loopholes in other areas. The longer he does, the more reckless the comments that are uttered by those Republicans at the top.

The President played an Ace on the poker table a while ago. He offered the possibility that come August the third, that Social Security checks may not go out. That was pure genius. I'm starting to see that a little of Bill Clinton's influence is being used by the man.

See if Fox News broadcasts that statement by the President. Do they DARE run the risk of alienating most of their audience to the Republicans? I'll bet not. What you will see however, is a rerunning of Boehner and McConnell's statements, over and over.

Because no matter how many times the Republicans try to blame Obama, they know well who is obstructing this process and why. It will backfire on the Republicans just as it did when Bill Clinton was President.

July 12, 2011 at 2:15 p.m.
rolando said...

topcat -- The TFP's censorship machine is a bit strange at times -- it won't tell you what word or word combination you might have used that ticked it off, but that was probably the reason it refused you. Some words are rejected simply because, although unrelated, they contain a proscribed word. "N---erdly" [stingy] is one; "S--de" [a winning suit in cards or part of a 250 year old expression] is another.

So when that happens, re-check your post for those words you think might trip it. Note: It is OK to type Honkie, Cracker, etc just not the reverse. That's just the way it is today.

July 12, 2011 at 2:35 p.m.
mymy said...

ALPOOOO: I heard some time ago on FOX that The Bomb would use the threat of SS checks not going out. So, when I heard on FOX today he had made that threat, I was not shocked. I bet you were? You got a lot of shocks coming as long as The Bomb is in office! He is desperate not a genius.

July 12, 2011 at 5:07 p.m.
rolando said...

"The Bomb". Beautiful, mymy.

July 12, 2011 at 6:26 p.m.
rick1 said...

Only thing Obama knows how to do is use scare tactics and that is what he is doing when he says Social Security checks won't go out. That is nothing but a lie and Ovomit knows it.

J.D Foster,Ph.D recently wrote The facts, in fact, are plain enough. In the unlikely event that the U.S. government would hit the real ceiling on August 2 as advertised, the federal government would still be on track to collect about $2.2 trillion in the fiscal year. That wouldn’t change. And net interest for the year would still be about $205 billion, or less than a tenth of incoming revenues. And in light of the consequences, there is no doubt that President Obama and his Treasury Secretary would ensure that the interest payments are made on time and in full.

Foster stated this view appears to be shared in spades by the credit markets, which so far have reacted to the Obama-media scare tactics with a big yawn. When the markets fear real default, they respond by jacking up interest rates, as we’ve seen in Greece, Italy, Portugal, etc. It’s happening right now in those countries.

In sharp contrast, U.S. long-term rates are actually falling. The 10-year Treasury bond rate, which only a few days ago was around 3.15 percent, has dropped 20 basis points to 2.95 percent. Maybe the markets just aren’t paying attention. Or maybe they know Obama and Company are blowing smoke. Whether the debt ceiling is raised on time or not, markets are confident that the interest will be paid.

Professor Charlie Calomiris of Columbia University Graduate School of Business wrote in a New York Post piece that “just about every private-sector economist I speak to says that Treasury could simply use its ample cash on hand to pay off our creditors first—then begin to prioritize payments for the military and various social programs.”

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/07/11/the-u-s-government-debt-default-bogie-man-scares-no-one/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Morning%2BBell

July 12, 2011 at 7 p.m.
rick1 said...

Here are more facts, as reported by MarketWatch and the Bipartisan Policy Center that the democrats are using pure demagoguery. You do the math: The federal government receives approximately $200 billion in revenues each month. Interest on the national debt in August will be approximately $29 billion. Social Security will cost about $49. 2 billion. Medicare and Medicaid will cost about $50 billion. Active duty military pay will cost about $2.9 billion. Veterans affairs programs will cost about $2.9 billion. That still leaves $39 billion each month. This is where Obama and the Democrats most fear to go. If Congress doesn't agree to raise taxes and the national debt limit, they will then have to make the tough choices about which of the remaining programs gets paid or cut and by how much: Defense vendors IRS refunds Food stamps and welfare Unemployment benefits Department of Education Department of Housing and Urban Development * Department of Justice, etc. etc. In sum, federal spending would have to be cut about 44 percent.

Obama and the democracts once againb turn to lies and scare tactics because the facts do not support their agenda.

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/fundmastery/2011/07/12/the-u-s-treasury-will-not-default/?mod=google_news_blog

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/bipartisan-policy-center-us-wont-default-debt-if-congress-fails-raise-debt-ceiling_576408.html

July 12, 2011 at 7:30 p.m.
dude_abides said...

As far as the water supplies are concerned, it is important to note that the EPA is only testing for radioactive Iodine-131. There are no readings or data available for cesium, uranium, or plutonium -- all of which are being continuously emitted from Fukushima, as far as we know -- even though these elements are all much more deadly than Iodine-131. Even so, the following water supplies have thus far tested positive for Iodine-131, with the dates they were collected in parenthesis to the right:

Los Angeles, Calif. - 0.39 pCi/l (4/4/11)

Philadelphia (Baxter), Penn. - 0.46 pCi/l (4/4/11)

Philadelphia (Belmont), Penn. - 1.3 pCi/l (4/4/11)

Philadelphia (Queen), Penn. - 2.2 pCi/l (4/4/11)

Muscle Shoals, Al. - 0.16 pCi/l (3/31/11)

Niagara Falls, NY - 0.14 pCi/l (3/31/11)

Denver, Colo. - 0.17 pCi/l (3/31/11)

Detroit, Mich. - 0.28 pCi/l (3/31/11)

East Liverpool, Oh. - 0.42 pCi/l (3/30/11)

Trenton, NJ - 0.38 pCi/l (3/29/11)

Painesville, Oh. - 0.43 pCi/l (3/29/11)

Columbia, Penn. - 0.20 pCi/l (3/29/11)

Oak Ridge (4442), Tenn. - 0.28 pCi/l (3/29/11)

Oak Ridge (772), Tenn. - 0.20 pCi/l (3/29/11)

Oak Ridge (360), Tenn. - 0.18 pCi/l (3/29/11)

Helena, Mont. - 0.18 pCi/l (3/28/11)

Waretown, NJ - 0.38 pCi/l (3/28/11)

Cincinnati, Oh. - 0.13 pCi/l (3/28/11)

Pittsburgh, Penn. - 0.36 pCi/l (3/28/11)

Oak Ridge (371), Tenn. - 0.63 pCi/l (3/28/11)

Chattanooga, Tenn. - 1.6 pCi/l (3/28/11)

Boise, Id. - 0.2 pCi/l (3/28/11)

Richland, Wash. - 0.23 pCi/l (3/28/11)

July 12, 2011 at 8:32 p.m.
tderng said...

whats your point dude?

July 12, 2011 at 11:15 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Check this out:

www.liveleak.com/view?i=d2d_1310412269

July 12, 2011 at 11:40 p.m.
alprova said...

Rick1 wrote: "Only thing Obama knows how to do is use scare tactics and that is what he is doing when he says Social Security checks won't go out. That is nothing but a lie and Ovomit knows it."

It's only a lie if the President knows it to be a lie. John Boehner doesn't even know what's going to happen when it comes to those Social Security Checks;

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/12/boehner-casts-doubt-on-obamas-veiled-threats-on-social-security/

"I don’t know what to believe," Boehner told Fox New's Bret Baier in exclusive interview.

The rest of your response is interesting, in that it seemingly controverts "The sky is falling" claims that Republicans have been screaming for the past two years.

All we have heard is that the debt load that we are carrying currently is going to bankrupt America.

Now, that Obama is demanding tax increases to off-set cuts in spending that Republicans have said must be accomplished, or else, the situation is not so dire after all, eh?

Mitch Mcconnell is preparing to give the President permission to raise the debt ceiling, because they absolutely, positively do not want to give up on the no taxes pledge they have made to the rich.

Again, what happened to all this crap about it being so necessary to cut spending, or else the sky would start falling?

Their lack of conviction is starting to expose those at the top for exactly what they are and what motivates them.

And they think that someone with an (R) next to their name will send Obama packing?

Hold your breath.

July 13, 2011 at 2:36 a.m.
mymy said...

I strongly disagree with Mitch McConnell’s plan. Let the talking donkeys say what they want about Newt he does have good ideas.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1049908175001

July 13, 2011 at 7:26 a.m.
tderng said...

good grief claydo two cartoons in eleven days.Wish I had had a job where I only worked one day every week or so.Perhaps only a half of a day.commenting on the same cartoon for six or seven days is getting extremely boring.Maybe we all should start picking our own topics when he leaves the same toon up for a third day.Three days is bad enough but a week on the last one and so far four days on this lame-o?come on clay get up and do some work.Perhaps his union called for a work slowdown.maybe I can find another story on this website to banter with the lwnj's

July 13, 2011 at 10:17 a.m.
mymy said...

Been thinking this for years especially with the feedback from someone who tells me about what workers are doing or not doing in the workplace today. I saw it myself first hand years ago. Sad but true.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011/07/13/alan-greenspan-its-gen-xers-fault-theyre-out-work/

July 13, 2011 at 1:01 p.m.
rolando said...

I do that all the time on Clay's cartoons, tderng. It makes the overblown stuff halfway readable.

Here's today's Mallard 'toon:

http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Mallard_Fillmore/

July 13, 2011 at 3:55 p.m.

I don't have time to reply to a lot of the arguments but one of the earlier ones about the population growing. The U.N. did a report a year or two ago where hey found the world population was in actuality leveling out from its former over population. Several countries might face population shortages. Keep that in mind with regards to our resources.

July 13, 2011 at 5:04 p.m.
rolando said...

The US population among citizens and legal residents is below replacement levels. About 1.7 or 1.8 per couple if memory serves. If it wasn't for the mink-like illegal aliens [aka "immigrants"], our population would be dropping.

Canada is not much better, replacement-wise.

July 13, 2011 at 6:35 p.m.
rolando said...

Greenspan can't count without using his fingers [and toes],

Generally speaking [as always], our public schools turn out sheep, mymy -- followers, not doers.

Any initiative or creative thought processes they might have str either trained out of them or drugged away. The unions finish off their willingness to work hard right off the bat; they encourage sloth and equal pay for unequal, shoddy work.

Oh, the new kids excel in Women's Studies, Social Services, Psychology, jobs that don't produce anything, etc and that's about it. They have no background knowledge in the hard sciences upon which to build. Not much call for that kind of thing these days...not in private business. So we import workers/professionals who can deliver what the employer wants.

July 13, 2011 at 6:52 p.m.
mymy said...

rolando: The educational system is broke in this country, period. I have a son who I taught to have a good work ethic and he does, thank God. He is a college grad and the stories I hear re peers is unbelievable. They grow up with no real parenting and think they are entitled to starting out with what others have worked years to earn. Their first priority is their next vacation, toys they can’t afford, etc. He has worked with many immigrants trying to do things the legal way to stay in this country, become citizen and has good words to say about them vs. American born who think they are entitled to the good life without working for it. This country is going to hell in a hand basket on many levels and I have said that for years.

July 13, 2011 at 7:56 p.m.
tderng said...

speaking of work ethics...clays seems to be lacking lately.I was talking to a friend of my nephew a few months ago and he was really peeved because he didn't make as much as a co-worker.He had been with the company for 6 months as opposed to 8 years.He was planning to get in his bosses face about it and I tried to explain about seniority and experience,He didn't get it.Felt like hey I do the same as him I should get the same pay.Needless to say he is now unemployed.

it seems to me that the more I talk to young people today the less they seem to know about things I was taught in school. ie history,science,geography.

July 13, 2011 at 9:03 p.m.
Leaf said...

Austrian, It's true that in the South, most fat white guys are Republicans. But in the Northeast, most fat white guys are Democrats.

Hey, how about those Tea Party Representatives! Think they'll sell America's economy down the river to possibly score some political points? I wouldn't put it past them.

July 14, 2011 at 8:43 a.m.
tderng said...

pathetic clay

July 14, 2011 at 9:06 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

wow...looks like obumble is losing his cool..storming out of the meeting like the big baby that he is. was i right, or what.

leaf....the democrats have failed to be responsible stewards of our money, so have the republicans.. if not for the tea party putting pressure on them, nothing would happen.

July 14, 2011 at 11:23 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Guys, Clay may be on vacation. After all, Steve Barrett's last feature was July 3, and no one's complaining about that. Come to think of it, it's kind of nice...

July 14, 2011 at 11:24 a.m.
rolando said...

Since we are still without a new topic, here is another in the series of equal-time cartoons:

http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/2011/07/14/89712

and this one:

http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Mallard_Fillmore/

July 14, 2011 at 1:08 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I like both of those, rolando! And I am not usually a big fan of Mallard.

July 14, 2011 at 1:42 p.m.
mymy said...

Did anybody see the good ole UAW boys at Chrysler? This is the second time they have been caught.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/chrysler-workers-in-trenton-caught-smoking-and-drinking-during-lunch-breaks-20110713-dk

July 14, 2011 at 2:18 p.m.
mymy said...

Here's another good one. What is The Bomb up to Aug. 4 when this country is supposed to default on debt. Aug. 2?

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/07/14/gops-big-debt-ceiling-card-obamas-birthday-bash/

July 14, 2011 at 2:24 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

SALUTE THE BUS DRIVER

Sea cow, any meeting at the White House is over when the President – regardless of political party – says it is.

Obama has backed republicans into a political corner and they can’t figure out how they got there. Or how to get out. Reminds me of the Ali v. Foreman fight; “Rope A Dope.”

At the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue Speaker of the House John Boehner can’t pass a bill raising the debt ceiling without some Democratic support, but if he brings a bill to the floor that has any chance of gaining liberal votes he'll face further rebellion in his own conservative caucus. Heck, he’s having trouble passing Bills that he DOES bring to the floor, but republicans are willing to go to the mattresses to defend hedge fund managers. Ever wonder why these guys so rich? Well, here’s an explanation:

“…Hedge fund managers benefit from preferential tax treatment that middle-income Americans don’t. Due to what’s known as the carried-interest loophole, the income that hedge fund managers receive is treated as capital gains and gets taxed at the capital gains rate of 15 percent, even though the pay is performance-based. Hedge fund managers pay less in taxes than middle-class workers who are subject to a 25 percent top marginal tax rate.”

Collectively, the top 25 hedge fund managers last year ‘earned’ $22 billion. It would take 440,000 workers earning $50K per year to make that much. The number one hedge fund manager, John Paulson, last year made $2.4 million per hour. $2.4 MILLION PER HOUR. Someone making $50K annually would need to work 47 years to make as much as Paulson made in 60 minutes.

Instead of citing ‘shared sacrifice,’ and asking hedge fund managers to pay the same tax rate as the rest of us, republicans would rather have America default on our debts.

Yesterday Harry Reid just punched republicans in face. Again. He brought a NON BINDING RESOLUTION to the floor for a vote. Here’s the recap: Citing the Wall Street Journal, the Bill states that last year the median pay for CFOs of S&P 500 companies increased 19% to $2,900,000. Over the past 10 years the median family income declined by more than $2,500.

The Bill stated something like, It’s the sense of the Senate that any agreement to reduce the budget deficit should require that those earning $1 million or more per year make a more meaningful contribution to the deficit reduction effort. That’s it. It doesn’t define meaningful contribution. Could be one dollar. Could be twenty dollars, but republicans locked arms and unanimously voted down that meaningless Bill.

Republicans will be accurately portrayed in the next election as doing ANYTHING to protect the Fat Cats but nothing at all for the rest of us.

Don’t look now, but Obama and Reid and driving the school bus, and they’re taking the GOP to school.

July 14, 2011 at 2:31 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

REASON NUMBER TWO

John Paulson is the top rated hedge fund manager. Republicans refuse to have these guys pay the same tax rate as the rest of us, but they have a good reason to be a little more critical of hedge fund managers. Do you know who the second richest hedge fund manager happens to be?

Your buddy, George Soros.

July 14, 2011 at 2:35 p.m.
rolando said...

"I am not usually a big fan of Mallard."

Mallard's a strange duck, lkeithlu [pun intended]. Most all of his strips have a lot of truth in them, albeit sometimes painful. He is a down-to-earth kind of guy. And he pokes fun at a lot of sacred cows.

July 14, 2011 at 6:59 p.m.
tderng said...

how bout this weather people!!!what do we want the topic of the day to be since there is no one pointing the way?

July 15, 2011 at 9:45 a.m.
alprova said...

tderng wrote: "how bout this weather people!!!what do we want the topic of the day to be since there is no one pointing the way?"

OMG, will you get over it already? The man is taking a well deserved vacation for a couple of weeks. A good many of the rest of America is doing the same thing and you're not on their case, are you?

You'll be seeing new material soon.

July 15, 2011 at 10:02 a.m.
Clara said...

Be seeing it probably Sunday. Have a good weekend. Poo

July 15, 2011 at 10:31 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Gone for almost a week now and nothing from Bennett? If he had a real job he would work ahead or take a couple of cartoons from the reject pile and have them posted in his absense.

Come to think of it, this cartoon probably did come out of the reject pile. When you address an old topic like this you need to be creative and entertaining, this junk is neither.

Loooser!

July 15, 2011 at 12:30 p.m.
alprova said...

Creep!

July 15, 2011 at 12:52 p.m.
mymy said...

Bad work ethic is my guess. He should have a stock pile of his child-like drawings on hand. I'm not missing him myself.

July 15, 2011 at 12:55 p.m.
alprova said...

MyMy wrote: "Bad work ethic is my guess. He should have a stock pile of his child-like drawings on hand. I'm not missing him myself."

Well good then. Don't let the door smack you on your fat little fanny on your way out if that's the way you feel.

What possible right do you have to assess his work ethics or the content of his work, you pathetic excuse for a human being?

Do you pay one cent towards his salary? No you don't. So do the world a favor and shut-up. You know well that you have been waiting with bated breath for a cartoon, so that you can write some more of that ignorance that has come to define you so well.

July 15, 2011 at 2:05 p.m.
mymy said...

Alpoo: you sound like a pissed off Clay. LOL

July 15, 2011 at 2:11 p.m.
alprova said...

MyMy wrote: "Alpoo: you sound like a pissed off Clay. LOL"

Do you HEAR what I type, like you do the other little voices that roll around in your head?

There's only one person who posts in here, who thinks that he is Clay Bennett incarnate. All ya' have to do is to look for the avatar. He's as ignorant as you are.

July 15, 2011 at 2:20 p.m.
mymy said...

You are a piece of work. It is fun to help get your panies in a twist. LOL

July 15, 2011 at 2:35 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

panies?

July 15, 2011 at 4:21 p.m.
mymy said...

panties/shorts/pants/whatever

July 15, 2011 at 5:17 p.m.
stanleyyelnats said...

In those days the population of America was about 140 million.

A gallon of gasoline was 20 cents a gallon.

An ounce of gold was around $30.

Today an ounce of gold is around $1300.

The amount of gold available for use is limited.

More people. Limited commodity.

Sort of like space on the Garden of Eden planet Earth. Limited.

Can you only imagine a future humanity that can't grasp the consequences of uncontrolled population increases?

Sort of like Rupert Murdoch being an honest information provider.

July 15, 2011 at 7:42 p.m.
tderng said...

good job mymy!

July 15, 2011 at 8:07 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

mymy said... "Bad work ethic is my guess"

Yes, and a lack of wit and talent. I suppose when it is such a struggle to come up with material it is nearly impossible to work ahead for an absence. If it was not for his milk toast graphic style he would have nothing.

Underachievers tend to be Marxist/socialists. Bennett would be a classic example.

July 15, 2011 at 8:14 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Any of you d!ckheads have speaking engagements this week? No? Hey, at least you can come here and congratulate each other on your doggerel.

July 15, 2011 at 11:39 p.m.
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