published Saturday, July 30th, 2011

The Driver's Seat

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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blackwater48 said...

EVEN O'REILLY THINKS REPUBLICANS ARE CHILDISH

Oh really? No, O'Reilly. (old joke... sorry)

Republicans must being doing something really stupid AND crazy to draw the wrath of Bill O'Reilly.

Cut and pasted from the internets but you should go check it out for yourself. I've been called a communists on this site by people whose opinions I hold in the highest contempt:

"Bill O'Reilly took some Republicans to task on his Thursday show, saying that they needed to stop their "craziness," tone down their "hateful rhetoric" and pass a debt ceiling increase. Speaking to guest host Laura Ingraham from Los Angeles, O'Reilly said he had taken a "moderate" stance on the debt crisis, and he warned Republicans who have so far been unwilling to pass a debt ceiling increase would only be helping President Obama, who he said had taken an "enormous hit" from the debate. "The only thing that can save Barack Obama at this point is craziness on the right," he said. "...It's not only going to hurt the Republican party, which has already been hurt, but it's going to save President Obama who they hate." "Exactly," Ingraham said. "The irony is, the people who dislike President Obama the most...are helping him the most," O'Reilly said. "You've got to stop this hateful rhetoric. Some of the rhetoric is so hateful...it'd spin your head around. You have to say, listen, we're at a point in the history when we have to save the country."

You think the GOP nut jobs are listening? Hello? Is this thing on? Hello?

July 30, 2011 at 12:15 a.m.
Selah said...

Republicans will pay soon for the continued MESS they created and still are creating. Tea Party...will fall down as quick as they rose up. Pride comes before a fall.

July 30, 2011 at 12:22 a.m.
macropetala8 said...

The GOP made a pack with the devil, AKA Tea Party. The devil is now demanding its due.

July 30, 2011 at 3:28 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

The 'grownups' have gotten us into this mess, making promises we can't afford to keep. The Democrats are guilty, the RINOs are guilty, so the Tea Party/libertarian direction is the way we HAVE to go; everything else has failed. The federal government runs 56 programs for financial literacy, it has NO plan EVER to balance its budget, and real cuts (not just growth slowdowns) are unthinkable? Learn to think!

Blackie, would you agree that Mr Bennett's drawings are "hateful" toward the Tea Party?

July 30, 2011 at 6:32 a.m.
EaTn said...

Anyone else noticed how pale Boehner has turned lately? Guess he's not had enough golfing time to keep that glowing tan.

The voters elected some tea party members to be sent to DC to destroy the existing government process, and it's working.

July 30, 2011 at 6:44 a.m.
woody said...

The scariest thing about all this is that you still won't be able to get any of them to accept the responsibility for this fiasco. They (whomever they proclaim to be) will simply say they were doing the "will of the people" who elected them.

Again, I say, I agree with their simplistic ideals and principles..it was their method I took and still take exception with. There is simply no way to undo overnight that which took years to do in the first place.

The 'booster seat' was a nice touch..it depicts the youthful naive way in which "The Tea Baggers" have driven this fight to the brink. It's too bad Clay couldn't have also shown the training wheels I am sure they cried to have taken off way before it was time.

Oh well..all we can do now is look for cover and hold on for dear life..Woody

July 30, 2011 at 6:48 a.m.
rolando said...

Yawn. SSDD from our resident hack. Bo-o-o-o-r-r-ring.

Joan Garrett's "Schools Falling Behind" on the TFP has more appeal -- and relevance -- than anything Bennett has drawn...and it deserves a whole lot more attention than this pitiful effort.

July 30, 2011 at 8:50 a.m.
limric said...

The tea partiers wailing has certainly affected the cars direction. Having not yet learned how to drive, and not being able to see over the dashboard, they are damaging all the parked cars on the street by yanking the steering wheel to the right all the time.

I'm glad they can't reach the pedals...yet!

July 30, 2011 at 8:53 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHAT I FOUND ON EBAY

China Puts US on eBay

‘Government Sold Separately,’ Sales Listing Says

BEIJING (The Borowitz Report) – Showing its impatience with the debt ceiling stalemate in Washington, China today took the extraordinary step of putting the United States of America on eBay.

Officials at the online auction site said they believed it was the first time a major Western nation had been listed for sale there “if you don’t count Greece.”

In Beijing, the Chinese Finance Ministry said that it had considered waiting until August 2 to see if the US would ever pay back its multitrillion-dollar obligations, but ultimately decided to cut its losses.

“We think we’ll attract a buyer on eBay,” the Ministry said. “Say what you will about the US, it’s still one of the top fifty countries in the world.”

The sales listing for the US contains some interesting information, such as China’s description of the former superpower as being in “fair to average condition.”

The listing also includes the stipulation “government sold separately,” which the Finance Ministry took great pains to explain.

“We thought that including the government in the sale might turn off potential buyers,” the Ministry said. “Plus, the US government isn’t ours to sell anyway – it’s owned by the Koch brothers.”

With no bidders in the first 24 hours on eBay, China admitted that it would be challenging to unload the US, but it still held out hope that a buyer would step forward: “We’ve got our fingers crossed for Zuckerberg.”

At the White House, press secretary Jay Carney said that he understood China’s decision to sell the US, but warned that a buyer would have to turn up on eBay before August 2: “After that, the Internet gets shut off.”

July 30, 2011 at 9:01 a.m.
mymy said...

How about Harry Reid on the buster seat and DOA (dead on arrival) on the car door. The Democratic controlled Senate hasn't even passed a budget in approximately 800 days. The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me. The Democrats want to hit the campaign trail instead of dealing with this problem for the next year - “kicking the can down the road” until after the 2012 election. Well, let’s see how that works out. Obama and company only want to keep borrowing and spending instead of facing up the reality of this country’s problems. “ Never concede a victory to Republicans, even if the nation suffers greatly as a result.”

Are you lefties saying the Tea Party members should fall in line and be trained to be corrupt like everybody else? WOW, that a good idea.

July 30, 2011 at 9:05 a.m.
limric said...

Dear Mr. Obama,

The country needs you to grow a set and say the following:

"During the past decade we sent poor and working class family members overseas to fight and die in two wars they didn't start.

Meanwhile, the rich and powerful profited from their sacrifice.

Now Republicans demand these same working class families sacrifice again while allowing the rich to continue to pile up even more wealth.

I don't think so."

July 30, 2011 at 9:08 a.m.
rolando said...

Better than "Slam On The Brakes And Say No" Reid. Where's their budget for the last two years or more?

TEA Party is just starting...and the Dimocrats are already screaming...wait until Nov next year...their moaning will crescendo to a loud murmur.

July 30, 2011 at 9:11 a.m.
rolando said...

Better than "Slam On The Brakes And Say No" Reid. Where's their budget for the last two years or more? Talk about "reaching pedals" and "steering". Wow.

The TEA Party is just starting...and the Dimocrats are already screaming...wait until Nov next year...their moaning will crescendo to a loud murmur.

July 30, 2011 at 9:12 a.m.
limric said...

Heee Hawww, that's great Blackwater.

What's even funnier, is that whomever the buyer is - WE will still be expected to pay for it.

July 30, 2011 at 9:13 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

I see that Blackwater48 is also a Borowitz fan. Andy's stuff is really good and it too must drive the TeaBagging Rethuglicans crazy just as Clay's does assuming that it ever penetrates the bubble in which they live.

Now donning Nomex underwear in anticipation of the usual vitrolic reaction from the usual suspects.

July 30, 2011 at 9:46 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Woody said: “The 'booster seat' was a nice touch..it depicts the youthful naive way in which "The Tea Baggers" have driven this fight to the brink. It's too bad Clay couldn't have also shown the training wheels I am sure they cried to have taken off way before it was time.”

Yes, Woody, cry baby tears along with a temper tantrum. . . I’ve been thinking Clay should have identified a few of the alleged adult passengers who apparently support the reckless and immature behavior of the drivers occupying those “booster seats,”

Instead of standing up for ethics and principles, I see Corker, Shelby, Chambliss, and Isakson opted to guzzle down a pint of tea and pile in for a reckless ride with the “booster-seat” set – so much for adult role models and responsible decision-making.

July 30, 2011 at 9:51 a.m.
limric said...

FUN - FUN - FUN

In a statement released today, the Office of Rep. John Boehner made public a report it had conducted a suggestion box program.

According to his office, after a visit from the Tea Party Caucus, items found in the box were used gum, used tissues, spare change, candy wrappers, and used condoms. “I never put my hand into the suggestion box,” comments program director Peggy Stiffback. “That thing is truly gross. We found all sorts of trash in there – cigarette butts, lots of them — I don’t know how they got in there, this is a non-smoking facility.”

In regard to actual comments and suggestions, there were notes suggesting what part of a horse’s body Harry Reid is and lewd suggestions as to what Senator Scott Brown does on weekends. “We’ve found an increased amount of comments suggesting where other Congressmen can “stick it” or “cram it,” as well as nicknames for Rep. Eric Cantnor. Also for some reason there are still a lot of notes calling Mr. Boehner a dick.”

Peggy Stiffback said the program is now on hold. “Honestly, you can trust these people to act half their age, or for that matter, to responsibly use a suggestion box. It’s really too much power in their hands, and I think the contents of this box prove that they’re acting like a bunch of babies.”

July 30, 2011 at 9:57 a.m.
hambone said...

I'm amazed that we haven't seen a lot of tears from Speaker Boehner.

He must have a very large decanter in his office!

July 30, 2011 at 10:52 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Clay has a theme to wear out now. I wonder how many of these we will see before he finds a new one.

Reid has blocked every Republican bill that has come to the Senate. Now he is delaying a vote on his own bill because he does not have the votes for that either!

Who is the baby here?

This Democrat' practice of prohibiting debate and amendment to important legislation and driving the process into closed door meetings is destroying Congress's ability to do anything.

July 30, 2011 at 10:56 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

TREASURY ANNOUNCEMENT

The U.S. Treasury, in anticipation of America defaulting of its loans, announced plans to issue Cantor Bonds in honor of Virginia Congressman Eric Cantor. According to a Treasury spokesman, 'They draw very little interest, require no principle, and never mature."

The White House was unavailable for comment.

July 30, 2011 at 11:09 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

CLUELESS IN THE MOUNTAINS

BRP, you must be really hung over this morning. Seriously dude, you're off to a new low:

Reid has blocked every Republican bill that has come to the Senate. Now he is delaying a vote on his own bill because he does not have the votes for that either!

Boehner's tea party turd, masquerading as a Bill, was voted down by 59 Senators including eight republicans. Reid's not delaying the Bill. He asked McConnell for an up or down vote, the same way the House voted on it. McConnell flat out said no. What a shock.

Who is the baby here?

Obviously McConnell.

This Democrat' practice of prohibiting debate and amendment to important legislation and driving the process into closed door meetings is destroying Congress's ability to do anything.

That's how John Boehner 'fashioned' his tea party turd Bill in the House. Over in the Senate, starting at 10:00 Friday morning and continuing into Friday night, Reid kept asking McConnell to sit down with him and write a compromise Bill that the House could agree to. McConnell refused. He said he would only negotiate with President Obama, and then he threaten to filibuster anything Reid came up with on his own.

Republicans threatened to filibuster Senate Democrats about 200 times since 2009. Why? It's a powerful weapon if all you're trying to do is DELAY, DELAY, DELAY.

BRP, what you think is happening really isn't. In fact it's exactly the opposite, but I have good news for you. Remember the character George Constanza on Seinfeld? He was a loser all his life. One day he asked Jerry for advice. Jerry said, "When you think about doing something, do the opposite." George followed the advice and his life turned around. Not only did he move out of his parents house, he landed a front office job with the Yankees.

BRP, EMBRACE THE OPPOSITE! What ever you think is right, believe the opposite. What ever you are going to write, write the opposite. What ever you believe in, believe the opposite. You may not turn your life completely around but you'll sound less and less like a crazy man howling at the moon.

I'm just trying to help.

July 30, 2011 at 11:41 a.m.
mymy said...

Wow, the fairy tale writers are out today. Don't forget the rating agencies gave the subprime mess AAA rating. How did that work out. The agencies said that Cut, Cap and Balance was the only one that met their criteria to stop a downgrade. Well, good ole Harry tabled that. Guess he was afraid he would lose that one also. Now I hear the agencies are backing off their threat. Could they have just been playing politics to scare the hell out of everybody to help the Demos. Hoping a quick and bad Demo solution would be passed? Who the hell knows the truth, but we are in real mess and this country cannot continue down this road led by Obama and company. So if you want to fall for more Obama Drama from our Liar in Chief have at it. Continuing to borrow, spend and then tax will not get us anywhere. Serious and hard choices have to be made and too many refuse to accept that fact. Maybe Rep. Connie Mack’s Penny Plan with a little tweaking might work.

July 30, 2011 at 11:45 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

The leftist seem rather jubilant here today. I wonder why. Because Clay managed a rather funny cartoon for a change?

I was up when CC&B was passed by the house. Disappointed when Reid tabled that bill without debate. Disappointed again when details of the Boehner bill came out. Disappointed when details of the Reid bill came out. Encouraged about news that a balanced budget requirement was added to the Boehner bill. Discouraged again to see Reid table that bill. Now, discouraged again to here that Reid was delaying a vote on his own bill!

It is getting hard to imagine how they are going to pull anything out of their hat before the 2nd. Hardly a time for celebration.

Just got a phone call from Boehner's organization insisting they are going to stand firm on the balanced budget and tax thing. Get ready for a wild ride!

July 30, 2011 at 11:47 a.m.
timbo said...

Ask yourselves one thing, is it logical that an organization, the Tea Party, in existence for two years is more responsible for the 14 trillion in debt and the state of our economy than two parties that have been in control of the government of 80 years. Both ran up the debt immensely.

You people are like drug addicts or alcoholics. When someone finally points out that you, yourself, is the problem, the addict will do anything to make sure his drug, money in this case, keeps flowing. The only childish people here are the establishment in both parties. Both are progressives, they just have different spending priorities, ...but it is still spending.

So, 50 or so people in the Tea Party caucus are holding things up? I know most of you are math challenged but I would think you could understand that 50 is less than 485 other congressmen and senators.

That is something you people know nothing about....logic.

July 30, 2011 at 11:50 a.m.
Clara said...

Isn't it "Apple" that is able to buy America on e-bay?

July 30, 2011 at 11:55 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Mymy said: “Are you lefties saying the Tea Party members should fall in line and be trained to be corrupt like everybody else?

If you follow the money, it’s rather obvious you’ve already fallen in line, Mymy. And like so many others servers in D.C., you exist only to serve your party's corrupt corporate funders like the Koch Brothers – I've heard they like their tea served promptly at 5:00 P.M.

July 30, 2011 at 11:56 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

You people trying to vilify the Tea Party are fast becoming irrelevant.

BREAKING NEWS

Boehner is going to bring Reid’s bill to a vote in the house tomorrow while Reid holds up his same bill in the Senate because he does not have the votes to pass it. The House will not table, but will vote on and defeat the Reid bill straight up.

Yes, the ride is getting more and more interesting. While the lefties here have their noses up the butts of the Tea Party the real show is going to fly right by.

July 30, 2011 at noon
Clara said...

Or at the least, make an offer?

July 30, 2011 at noon
BigRidgePatriot said...

The Democrats are starting to look more and more like a herd of two year olds every day, are they not? They refuse to vote on anything passed by the House and now are refusing to vote on their own bill in the Senate!

Hilarious!

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

Remember when all of you lefties were parroting the "Party of NO" theme on cue from the left wing press? Sheep!

July 30, 2011 at 12:19 p.m.
sd said...

McCain was right when he blasted his colleagues the other day, and O'Reilly is right in his assessment that Republicans are engaging in political suicide FOR NO DISCERNIBLE REASON WHATSOEVER.

Meanwhile, revenue increases, the supposed "sticking point" of the debate, have been neatly shuffled aside, because now the REAL issue is actually lifting the debt ceiling. Now Democrats don't have to pretend they want to take money from their millionaire campaign donors and Republicans can say they took a stand for the people (that actually matter).

Neatly played, except freshmen Republicans didn't realize they were bi-winning--so much for sitting at the big-kids table. Obama folds like a deck of cards (as usual), revenue increases are now off the table in both plans, and Republicans still don't want to salvage their political hides. Or rather, certain freshmen Republicans don't understand the give-and-take of politics. I never thought I'd say this, but I have a lot more respect for career politicians than I used to thanks to this recent infusion of Tea Party wunderkind.

July 30, 2011 at 12:24 p.m.
acerigger said...

When do we start holding these Republicans to their oath to uphold the Constitution? That 14th amendment solution works two ways, as I see it. As sworn elected officials, their duty is first and foremost to uphold and protect the Constitution, which clearly states that the validity of public debt shall not be questioned.

Shall not be questioned. Shall not. Since this is debt already authorized by Congressional appropriations, there would seem to be a Constitutional duty for these Republicans to honor their obligations as delineated in the 14th amendment.

July 30, 2011 at 12:43 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

BigRidgePatriot said: "You people trying to vilify the Tea Party are fast becoming irrelevant."

Hmmmm . . . Yet, another delusional statement from Buffamotus or “he who carries the pickle” to amuse his corrupt corporate masters - their majesties, the Koch Brothers.

July 30, 2011 at 12:44 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

No, the house is going to take up the Reid bill TODAY!

I am in a great mood today. If we can believe the Boehner call this morning he is planning to call Obama's bluff and stand firm on the balanced budget and no tax increase positions.

Was the original Boehner plan a maneuver to feign weakness and embolden the Democrats? Is the MSM going to be able to continue to try to paint the Republicans as the problem? Will Clay and his dim witted followers still be whining about the Tea Party on Tuesday next week?

July 30, 2011 at 12:45 p.m.
mymy said...

Clara: Apple has more money that the government. Why: they produce a good product that works. Why would they want to buy a government that is in debt and poorly run? Geez! Mtn: I would rather have a nice cup of tea at 5pm than poisonous koolade 24/7.

July 30, 2011 at 1 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

IT'S NOT TOO LATE

BigRidgePatriot said: "You people trying to vilify the Tea Party are fast becoming irrelevant."

Remember what we discussed? The OPPOSITE is true. You should have said, "You people trying to glorify the Tea Party are fast becoming irrelevant."

And it's not just me saying that. Even your saintly Charles Krauthammer scolded tea baggers for their rigidity and unwillingness to compromise. "Under our constitutional system," Kruathammer wrote, "You cannot govern from one house alone. Today’s resurgent conservatism, with its fidelity to constitutionalism, should be particularly attuned to this constraint, imposed as it is by a system of deliberately separated — and mutually limiting — powers."

Fred Barnes called it a great article and even Bill O'Reilly (see my earlier post) warned republicans about irreparable damage Tea Baggers were doing to the republican brand.

Keeping chugging that Kool-Aid, Mr. Ridge. Never forget you're fighting for the Lord.

And the Koch Brothers.

July 30, 2011 at 1:22 p.m.
Clara said...

You bags took that Apple Comment seriously?

Another big laugh for me!

July 30, 2011 at 1:33 p.m.
timbo said...

blackwater48...Charles Krauthammer, Bill O'Reilly, etc. and the establishment Republicans like McCain are most of the problem. They sat by why Bush II spent money like a drunken Democrat. McCain loves military spending. Are you sure you want to hold him up as an example?

The establishment Republicans hate the Tea Party because the elites cannot control them. All the establishment Republicans want is for the conservatives to keep quite, vote as their told, and write a check. Them days are over. The establishment Republicans HATE the Tea party because they vote it's principals and all the arguments about sacrificing your principles for the greater good are just plain socialistic. The constitution of this country has flowery rhetoric but the main reason this country is different is because the individual is protected through the Bill of Rights.

So you go on along with the herd fooling yourself about how smart you are and how you are for the little guy and the country while Rome burns. Grow up.

July 30, 2011 at 1:41 p.m.

I have to laugh at you, Mr. Blackwater. Is your backside glued to your chair? Do you have a job? You coudn't possibly hold a job and post as often as you do on here.

You seem to be desperately trying to convince others on this TFP site, and the nation, that the Democratic Party and your fearless leader should be held in higher esteem than the Republican Party.

You're wasting your time.

Do you know what's behind this hysteria, this chaos, this frenzy, this doomsday talk? It's the media and the Democratic Party doing everything they can to save President Obama from himself. As Peggy Noonan put it so well, "he's a loser"

July 30, 2011 at 1:42 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

This is how crazy the left is getting in their desperate attempt to marginalize the Tea Party movement. They are now moving on from "baby" to "Terrorist". While the dichotomy is comical it also shows how the left is not laughing anymore (accept for the slightly retarded leftists that follow Clay Bennett) and are starting to recognize that the Tea Party is a serious threat to their agenda.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/60202.html

How far will they go with the name calling before they start recognizing that they have long been absurd? Will Clay cue his empty headed minions to follow the “Terrorist” lead with an upcoming cartoon?

July 30, 2011 at 1:51 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Acerigger said: “When do we start holding these Republicans to their oath to uphold the Constitution? That 14th amendment solution works two ways. . . As sworn elected officials, their duty is first and foremost to uphold and protect the Constitution, which clearly states that the validity of public debt shall not be questioned.”

Believe self-serving Republicans like Corker, Shelby, Chambliss, and Isakson have already told us what they think of the U.S. Constitution, Acerigger. Clearly, their loyalties lie with the Tea Party along with its radical John Bircher benefactors – the Koch Brothers.

July 30, 2011 at 1:58 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

CSPAN is pretty entertaining today.

July 30, 2011 at 2:01 p.m.
mymy said...

Got that right BRP

July 30, 2011 at 2:12 p.m.
mymy said...

Clara: The laugh is on you. You never make much sense.

July 30, 2011 at 2:15 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

HELP FOR THE MATHEMATICALLY CHALLENGED

LIB asked me politely, Is your backside glued to your chair? Do you have a job? You couldn't possibly hold a job and post as often as you do on here.

Happily retired, which you would know if you bothered to read my profile. Incidentally, fyi, I posted five tmes today and one was a straight cut and paste (Andy Borowitz), another was mostly cut and paste (O'Reilly), and I quoted Krauthammer because I was told by one of you knot headed conservatives that CK is the epitome of conservatism and holds impeccable credentials. Apparently political purity is more fluid when you add a spiritual component.

Since you're keeping score, Big Ridge Patriot, (whom I affectionately refer to as 'Death Valley Fascist LOL) has posted seven times as I write but has been known to spit out as many a 8 in a row! He does that because he admitted that his attention span is about 500 ms. Sad really.

Republicans will get blamed for anything bad that comes out of all this because of their gleeful hatred of government. Fairly or not, they seem to be the ones cheering for the default and a government shut down. Maybe you're one of 'em.

How patriotic is that?

July 30, 2011 at 2:37 p.m.
mymy said...

The Liar in Chief and company do not want this resolved for the best interest of the country. They need a campaign topic to try to convince the kool-ade drinkers it's all the Republicans fault. The Bomb has nothing to run on at this point and his numbers continue to fall. They continue to believe they can fool enough people to win again. Their slogan: "Hope nobody sees what we've done". Time will tell as I continue to be amazed at the stupidity of people.

July 30, 2011 at 2:54 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I thoroughly enjoyed watching the House debate on C-SPAN today. Reid won’t vote on his own bill but it seems clear that the House will, and will give it the rejection it so soundly deserves. I wonder what happens next. Do the crybabies on the leftist side of the isle spend the next three days pounding their fists, pi$$ing and $hitting themselves and wailing at the top of their lungs, or do they get down to the business of passing some real spending cuts and maybe even a commitment for a balanced budget amendment.

You can’t make this stuff up!

July 30, 2011 at 3:10 p.m.
fairmon said...

Turn the democrats lose, give them all the debt they want and let them crash the economy than people may accept that we are in deep trouble.

July 30, 2011 at 3:44 p.m.
mymy said...

BRP: I see a young Sen. in training who will make a good leader in the future. Sen. Marco Rubio! Ole Sen. John Kerry tried to take him on. What a hoot that was.

July 30, 2011 at 3:47 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Marco Rubio is brilliant. I supported him in his run for his Florida Senate seat. My Mom wants him to run for president.

July 30, 2011 at 3:56 p.m.
tderng said...

I agree with harp3339.Abolish the debt ceiling and hang on for the ride!Double all entitlement spending!Double S.S. checks and borrow however much it takes to do so.

July 30, 2011 at 3:56 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I am watching an Obama speech on C-SPAN. He is fear mongering again, no surprise there. The interesting part is that he looks like he is breaking out like an adolescent in rut. I guess the kid is feeling the pressure!

Good!

July 30, 2011 at 4:18 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Mymy said: "I would rather have a nice cup of tea at 5pm than poisonous koolade 24/7.

Sorry to disappoint you, but my mama wouldn’t let me drink koolade so I never aquired a taste for it. As long as we’re talking about unhealthy drinks for American families and their children, what’s in the Koch Brothers Tea anyway? I know the recipe is based on a formula originally developed by the John Birch Society, but may I ask if the Koch Brothers have added any new ingredient to their version of the tea?

I’m only asking because there seems to a lot of history here with this Koch Brothers Tea, and it seems to cause conservative Republicans to act in wild and crazy ways, particularly when it comes to politics. In fact, I just read about a time when the elder father Koch and his collegues accused President Eisenhower of being guilty of treason - a man “entirely without principles and hungry for glory, who is only the tool of the Communists.” Sound familiar?

July 30, 2011 at 4:19 p.m.
tderng said...

Jesus Christ mtlrl...I do believe you have a crush on the koch brothers.You bring them up every chance you get.I tell you what,they are no different than your(liberal/leftist) hero George Soros(Corporate raider and money and stock manipulator).The only difference is that Soros supposedly believes in your leftist,socialist agenda.In truth he is only after the same thing as the Koch brothers....money.By manipulating the liberal media with his money he pushes his agenda for making more of that evil stuff(money).

July 30, 2011 at 4:45 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Tdemg said: "I do believe you have a crush on the koch brothers.You bring them up every chance you get.I tell you what,they are no different than your(liberal/leftist) hero George Soros."

Believe that Koch Tea has stunted your growth, Tdemg. Some people don't buy into the “my billionaire is so much better than your billionaire" mentality, and I’m one of them.”

July 30, 2011 at 5 p.m.
timbo said...

I think next time I hear one of you liberal girly men call me a tea bagger ,I'm gonna give you a demonstration of whatt it really is .

July 30, 2011 at 5:21 p.m.
CarolinaGal said...

The Tea Party finally got the keys to the car...and they have a full tank of gas. Rather than predicting the demise of the Tea Party, Dems better start fearing the demise of their own party. Obama can't be reelected with the economy in the tank and his policies will not change it. If the Dems don't replace him in the primary, then he could be impeached when all the details of "fast and furious" become known. It is already uglier than Watergate and Iran-Contra.

July 30, 2011 at 5:31 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

timbo said... “I think next time I hear one of you liberal girly men call me a tea bagger, I'm gonna give you a demonstration of whatt it really is.”

Dude, that was really gay. Anyhow, a chickenhawk like you wouldn’t know a teabagging if a pair slapped you across the face. Time for you to eat your greens. Have a nice “tossed salad”.

July 30, 2011 at 5:50 p.m.
mymy said...

Glad you brought up George Soros: Top 10 Reasons George Soros Is Dangerous http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=42674 Soros doesn’t like the Dodd-Frank act either something he supported: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/27/gop-senator-accuses-george-soros-evading-hedge-fund-regulations/ This is the person behind Your God Obama. Neither have this country’s best interest at heart, but the kool-ade drinkers keep pouring it down.

July 30, 2011 at 6:12 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Working on the Terrorist cartoon Clay?

You useless Wart!

July 30, 2011 at 6:45 p.m.
timbo said...

I was just wondering , how someone's mind goes off to the left of the political spectrum while someone else who grows up basically the same way goes in the right direction .
I think studies show that's when you are younger, liberal thinking has more appeal . as you get older any more mature you become more conservative . fantasy and emotion fall by the wayside ines replaced by logic and practicality . I was a liberal when I was young. I didn't know how the world actually worked. when I started my business that liberal economic principles didn't work . when I matured and and became an adults I turned more conservative . it is obvious that the tea party are the adults here.

July 30, 2011 at 7:05 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

CaroliniaGal said: "The Tea Party finally got the keys to the car...and they have a full tank of gas . . . Dems better start fearing the demise of their own party."

Don't worry about the Democrats, CarolinaGal. They look OK to me. You might check in on America's poor and middle class though. I heard some cowardly Republicans named Corker, Shelby, Chambliss, and Isakson tossed a mob of tea baggers the keys to their limos – and if they have as you say a full tank of gas, God only knows what the tea baggers will do. If it helps, I heard the tea bagger mob was last seen burning food stamps, unemployment checks, library books, school supplies, medi-care cards, and social security checks in front of one of the Koch brothers' mansions. I don't which one. You'll need to ask a tea bagger.

July 30, 2011 at 7:29 p.m.
fairmon said...

Mntlaure,

What opinions do the Kock's not make public? People can elect to side with them or not. George Soros is a behind the scenes snake that manipulates markets, currencies and people to his advantage. He made billions short selling and almost destroying the British pound. Guess which currency he is shorting now? Unions are the biggest contributors to politicians and have more influence than the Kock's. I don't agree with all their ideology but you seem to have an intense dislike as though they had done you personal harm?

July 30, 2011 at 7:39 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 said: “The Kock's. I don't agree with all their ideology but you seem to have an intense dislike as though they had done you personal harm?”

In addition to the radical politics of the Koch family, Koch industries are major polluters, Harp3339. In fact, Koch Industries has been named as one of the top ten air polluters in the United States. As such, I believe they have the potential to do personal harm to a lot of people who live, work and breathe in the regions where they conduct their businesses.

July 30, 2011 at 8:22 p.m.
hambone said...

What is amazing to me is how some people on here seem to be sitting staring at their laptop waiting for others to post so they can respond.

Get a life!

July 30, 2011 at 8:25 p.m.
fairmon said...

George Soros open society institute donations to progressive and Marxist promoting groups makes other contributors look cheap. A good book is The man who would be king maker. Another is Emperor Soros. He has been credited with bringing regimes down in some countries. He contributed to organizations dedicated to changing the justice system in America. He is a big contributor to Acorn. He is a huge contributor through various vehicles to Obama and progressives in congress. He is a world government advocate. He supports the United Nations handling foreign affairs for the U.S. There are many examples of communist sympathizers heading up organizations supported by the open society institute. He is of Jewish ancestry born in Budapest. He came to the U.S. by way of England then Wall Street where he accumulated billions. He is a wealth redistribution advocate except his. His hedge fund gives him the 15% tax rate on that income. Tell me again how the Kock's are low life subversives.

I don't agree with a lot they advocate but I do agree with their contention there should be a heck of a lot less centralized all controlling government with all the inefficiencies, duplications, fraud and waste.

July 30, 2011 at 8:34 p.m.
inthemiddle said...

When your friends cannot explain why they voted for Democrats, give them this list. They can then pick their reasons from this "TOP 12"

  1. I voted Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene, but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.

  2. I voted Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

  3. I voted Democrat because Freedom of Speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

  4. I voted Democrat because I'm way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know that my local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves.

  5. I voted Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday can tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

  6. I voted Democrat because I'm not concerned about millions of babies being aborted so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

  7. I voted Democrat because I think illegal aliens have a right to free health care, education, and Social Security benefits.

  8. I voted Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as the Democrats see fit.

  9. I voted Democrat because I believe liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would never get their agendas past the voters.

  10. I voted Democrat because I think that it's better to pay billions to people who hate us for their oil, but not drill our own because it might upset some endangered beetle or gopher.

  11. I voted Democrat because while we live in the greatest, most wonderful country in the world, I was promised "HOPE AND CHANGE".

  12. I voted Democrat because my head is so firmly planted up my ass, it's unlikely that I'll ever have another point of view.

It is hard to believe that this is the Democrat stated platform and half of America votes for it.

July 30, 2011 at 9:42 p.m.
tderng said...

dayamn inthemiddle...don't sugar coat it,tell us how you really feel. :)

Careful,you may get hit with plagiarism charges printing from the democrat playbook like that.

July 30, 2011 at 9:57 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

Clay does seem to have a theme here but he also seems to have a valid point.

July 30, 2011 at 10:08 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

Hey, inthemiddle, I voted Democrat because they weren't Republicans.

July 30, 2011 at 10:09 p.m.

Inthemiddle, outstanding! That says it all.

July 30, 2011 at 10:12 p.m.

SavartiTN, I believe BO would fit quite nicely in that car seat. He doesn't have to take a backseat to anyone when it comes to immaturity! In fact, Reid and Pelosi would as well.

July 30, 2011 at 10:29 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

As for the poor oil companies and their pitiful 4% profit, it looks like Chevron only saw a 43% increase in profits this quarter. They only made 7.7 billion. Poor Chevron. I feel so bad for them...NOT. http://news.yahoo.com/chevron-profits-jump-strong-oil-price-124429420.html

This makes inthemiddle's comment look ludicrous. A word that explains the Republican party quite well.

July 30, 2011 at 10:36 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

12 REASONS TO VOTE REPUBLICAN

1) Because Jesus said "Thou shall give tax cuts to the obscenely wealthy." 2) If you believe the government should stay out of your life! Unless of course, it's at the doctors, at the church, in the bedroom, involves guns, or a woman's body. 3) Because despite the only reference to God in any government documents from the Founding Era is the word "Creator" in the Declaration of Independence, which isn't actually a governing document, we are a Christian Nation founded on Christian principles! 4) Because even though gay marriage wouldn't affect my marriage, it's still wrong! (Look what Jesus said about it! Oh wait...) 5) Because women don't NEED rights, dangit! 6) Because we need to help those who were born able to help themselves! 7) Because rich people need tax breaks more than poor people need food! 8) Because we need to invade countries and outspend the rest of the world combined on defense instead of fixing our schools! 9) Because lower taxes magically increases jobs and increases revenue! 10) Because lower spending magically increases jobs and increases revenue! 11) Regulations are for European hippies! God will save the environment! Jesus Jesus Jesus, God, the Bible, guns, Amen. 12) Because science is a global conspiracy. We don't need to ejumacate our kids about no evolution or no global climate change! God will save the environment! Jesus Jesus Jesus, God, the Bible, guns, Amen.

July 30, 2011 at 10:44 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

10 MORE REASONS TO VOTE REPUBLICAN

1) Exxon Mobile made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from the IRS, according to its SEC filings. 2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly $1 trillion. 3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26 billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion refund from the IRS. 4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009. 5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS last year. 6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68 billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction. 7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department. 8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury. 9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received $451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction. 10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11 billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years was just 1.1 percent.

The problem isn’t that we can’t afford Social Security, or that we’re wasteful with our government spending, or that the nation is ‘broke.’ The problem is that the wealthy have set up a system where they can avoid paying their share of taxes.

See? Anyone can cut and paste!

It must make you all feel warm and fuzzy shilling for these scum bags.

July 30, 2011 at 10:44 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

Thank you, blackwater. My sentiments exactly.

Jesus Jesus Jesus, God, the Bible, guns, Amen. My new favorite quip.

July 30, 2011 at 11:23 p.m.
inthemiddle said...

Whaaaah, good grief all you have is oil companies. Come on you can do better than that. Rich people making your life awful, come on step up your game.
Quit blaming everyone else for once. I don't care that they make profits. That's what they are in business. You aren't complaining because Apple raised their profits 93% are you? It's easy for you to pick and choose the good and the bad. Just remember the number one through three wealthiest people in America are on the Democrats side but I guess they don't count cause they support your leader.

The problem isn’t that we can’t afford Social Security, or that we’re wasteful with our government spending, or that the nation is ‘broke.’ The problem is that the wealthy have set up a system where they can avoid paying their share of taxes.

You're joking right? If only the rich would pay more then all of our problems would disappear? That's your solution?

Oh and I don't attend church nor do I own a gun.

July 30, 2011 at 11:30 p.m.
Momus said...

The car should have been drawn in the ditch.

July 31, 2011 at 8:06 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

MAKING MATH SIMPLE FOR THE SIMPLE

ITM bitched, Whaaaah, good grief all you have is oil companies. Come on you can do better than that. Rich people making your life awful, come on step up your game.

Based on your opening I know I'm wasting my time, but I'll give it one more shot. (I don't want to mow the lawn anyway.) Of the 10 companies listed only 4 are oil companies. That hardly constitutes all, or even most or even half.

Quit blaming everyone else for once. I don't care that they make profits. That's what they are in business. You aren't complaining because Apple raised their profits 93% are you? It's easy for you to pick and choose the good and the bad. Just remember the number one through three wealthiest people in America are on the Democrats side but I guess they don't count cause they support your leader.

You're wandering off. You didn't read the post. Again, nothing that I posted was complaining about making a profit. NOTHING. Here is just one example: Bank of America - not an oil company - posted a $4 billion profit, received a $1.9 billion tax rebate, AND received $1 TRILLION in tax payer bail out money.

You're joking right? If only the rich would pay more then all of our problems would disappear? That's your solution?

No, not that the rich would pay more. Just that the rich would pay what they owe. Why should a hedge fund manager pay a lower tax rate than his secretary?

Oh and I don't attend church nor do I own a gun.

Why would you think that I give a crap what you do in your spare time?

July 31, 2011 at 9:38 a.m.
fairmon said...

mntlaurel says the kock company owns businesses that are among the largest polluters in the U.S. Where is the EPA that has the authority to impose fines and require correction of pollution sources?

July 31, 2011 at 9:52 a.m.
tderng said...

yes,because that's where Obama has driven it.

July 31, 2011 at 10:03 a.m.
tderng said...

harp3339,I have noticed that mountainlaurel attacks the Koch brothers and the oil industry(for their pollution)but seems to leave the coal industry alone.I also wonder what the Koches did to her.Perhaps they stole land from a family member or killed someone she knows for their land?

July 31, 2011 at 10:07 a.m.
inthemiddle said...

Ok BW

As you well know Corporate taxes are not figured in the way personal taxes are figured. Corporations pay as they go. That means that all year long they pay on what they expect to earn not what they have already earned. Meaning that at the end of the year they may very well have overpaid and thus deserve a refund. Oil companies may very well make a lot of profit for their product. It is more essential to peoples everyday life beyond that of a gallon of gasoline. Therefore they will have more sales and potentially more profit.

The banks I agree with. They should not have received the money from TARP. When Chrysler said they paid back all their money everyone was praising them and touting the good thing that was done, but when the banks paid it and then showed a profit they were bad. I don't understand the difference.

The hedge fund managers should pay an amount that is proportional and I don't disagree totally with you. The only thing I see wrong is that they were by in large one of the largest supporters of the Democratic Campaign. They hedged their bet and now they are being demonized for it. Remember the AMT that was setup for those ultra-wealthy in the 60's? Well now that has trickled down from ultra to moderately wealthy. Now that figure starts around 250K. I just think it is wise to make a sound tax law not by knee jerk reaction that a small fraction of the people are doing exponentially better. What I would be afraid of is that the tax laws they would propose to combat that would trickle down to the rest of the country in the future.

The god and gun was in response to savartitn, not you.

July 31, 2011 at 10:27 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 said: "the kock company owns businesses that are among the largest polluters in the U.S. Where is the EPA."

Actually, Koch Industries has been repeatedly fined by the EPA, which I suspect is one of the key reasons the Koch Brothers established their Tea Party advocacy organizations. And for those of us who have been paying attention to the activities of their groups, it has become rather clear that Koch’s Tea Party organizations are determined to eliminate and/or weaken the EPA. – just a little token for the grand master polluters Koch & Koch.

Tdemg said: "I have noticed that mountainlaurel attacks the Koch brothers and the oil industry(for their pollution)but seems to leave the coal industry alone."

If an official tally were conducted, I believe the results will show that I’ve expressed equal concerns about dirty oil, dirty coal's efforts to destroy our mountain tops, and the dirty Koch Brothers. If you doubt this, Tdemg, please feel free to conduct that official tally.

July 31, 2011 at 3:15 p.m.
fairmon said...

Mntl,

I doubt there is any connection between the Kock Company and the tea party. The Kock's are libertarians and don't agree with many of the tea party principles and objectives. The tea party apparently lacks a central connection like the DNC and RNC so they will soon fizzle out.

Where can I find documentation of Kock's violations and sources of their violations that have not been corrected? Is there any wealth creating manufacturer that you think operates as they should? Do you know how many businesses and how diverse the Kock corporation is? A recent purchase was Georgia Pacific. Like Warren Buffet they don't buy stock in a company, they buy the company and keep most of the current management of the operation in place.

July 31, 2011 at 3:54 p.m.
Rufus_T_Firefly said...

Having tBaggers in the drivers seat is like having a teenager in the driver seat.

July 31, 2011 at 5:57 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

You are seriously confused, inthemiddle. Blackwater was the one that said "Jesus Jesus Jesus, God, the Bible, guns, Amen." I just find it very amusing. So, why would you direct the God and gun comment at me?

Also, the only corporations that you brought up in your list were the oil companies and, therefore, I commented on what I thought of the oil companies. You get confused easily, don't you?

I see now why it is so easy for the Republicans to razzle dazzle some people.

August 1, 2011 at 12:06 a.m.
inthemiddle said...

SavartiTN,

I just saw that you wrote that and thought it was directed at me, so I wanted to clarify that I don't hold that position. So to lighten the mood for you I provide the following link.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8635624/Pastafarian-wins-religious-freedom-right-to-wear-pasta-strainer-for-driving-licence.html

August 1, 2011 at 5:55 a.m.
fairmon said...

Does the fact that 49% pay no taxes with some getting refunds exceeding the amount paid mean that 51% pay 100% of income taxes? The 49% is up from 19% just a few years ago. The 5% that pay most of all collected income tax better be ready to pay more when the ratio gets to be 80% paying zero and 20% paying 100%. Could it be both parties are corrupt and prefer having a dependent society.

Once something is given taking it back will always cause hard feelings, anger and in many cases aggressive reaction. Once given it is viewed as owned, a right, an entitlement.

August 1, 2011 at 8:14 a.m.
d2edwards said...

I hope the Tea Party's little legs never reach the pedals and their little arms never reach the wheel - at least not well enough to steer. (We know they can honk.) I cannot help but wonder if the GOP will survive the Tea Party and if christianity will survive the Christians. The GOP and christianity appear doomed for many of the same reasons...

August 1, 2011 at 5:12 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

inthemiddle, that was funny! Thanks.

August 1, 2011 at 6:37 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

It is interesting that the baby seat is pink.

August 2, 2011 at 12:04 a.m.

The attacks on the tea party just show what the dems are worried about the most. They are scared to death that the REAL citizens of the USA who make up the Tea Party will rise up and put the pretender in chief and all of the Repulidemocraps out on their rears. Both Dems and the GOP are responsible for this train wreck. Currently TEA has all of the answers while both of the establishment castles are falling in on themselves. REAL americans who still hold traditional american values recognize them for what they are. The new plantation built by both parties is getting too unwieldy to handle now and eventually, you run out of other people's money.

I guess all of you emotional thinkers will need to actually start working since your free ride is just about up.

August 8, 2011 at 3:05 p.m.
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