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about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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AndrewLohr said...

Ha.

Of course, we must judge these gentlemen not by the color(s) of their skins, but by the content of their character.

And the monocultural chamber didn't like vouchers for variety in education? Shame on them too.

July 31, 2011 at 12:23 a.m.
OllieH said...

For those of you living outside the Chattanooga area, here's a link to the latest in a string of stories that have run in the TFP about the Tennessee Multicultural Chamber of Commerce:

http://tinyurl.com/3goqwyv

The group is currently under investigation by the FBI and HUD about how it used millions of dollars in loans and grants over the past decade.

July 31, 2011 at 12:41 a.m.
Selah said...

This is another great one, Clay.

I do believe this is more about mismanagement than unethical behavior. Part of the Hamilton Co. structure has been to give jobs to friends and connections before looking for qualified candiates with a track record of success. It is clear here that the boat floats in one direction here: "It is more about who you know than what you know". This may be fine with certain business but as a general rule it can be devastating to a city's credibility. Hamilton County govt. needs to get its house in order. Starting with the school system.

July 31, 2011 at 1:42 a.m.
woody said...

Black-related Chamber of Commerce??

Hispanic-related Chamber of Commerce??

Asian-related Chamber of Commerce??

Multicultural-related Chamber of Commerce??

Now who's practicing segregation??

Excuse me, but I was under the impression the only color all businesses encouraged or even concerned themselves with was "GREEN!"

Foolish, naive me..Woody

July 31, 2011 at 7:17 a.m.
chet123 said...

an example of good ole boy(girl) system....it really dont work any where....sherrie gilchrist should have never,never,never been over multi-culture or any organization....why would they pay here 130,000 annually for impotency.......think the money was going mostly into pockets.....

July 31, 2011 at 7:17 a.m.
chet123 said...

woody....dont push it woody...dont push it! for someone like you who think you have birth-right to have 100%....let contributors,minorities and the FBI....straighten it out...i assured you that you wont have to look for to find scandles that you are silent about....see no evil, speak no eveil, say no evil

July 31, 2011 at 7:24 a.m.
woody said...

Believe me Chet..I have no more rights than you..I merely get exasperated at times and don't know any better than to 'call 'em as I see 'em'.

Show me a Multicultural Chamber of Commerce and all I can assume is an organization that plays on certain people's fears and biases for their own benefit. Their color is of little consequence, nor their creed or religious background..only their ulterior motive(s).

The "bottom line" is this..if we can't conduct business in a color-blind, "one-for-all--all-for-one" fashion there is little hope the rest of us..Woody

July 31, 2011 at 8:10 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Once again, Clay proves he's a hack for the right wing. Always finding fault with everyone but the tea baggers. When will he ever show a modicum of fairness?

July 31, 2011 at 10:08 a.m.
tderng said...

well,I am sure that our city leaders will probably keep sending our tax dollars to this "enterprise",because it is the 'politically correct' thing to do.If they do not there could be problems.

July 31, 2011 at 10:18 a.m.
dude_abides said...

I see plenty of water buckets, but no fertilizer. Oh wait, here comes SeaMonkey! Emission accomplished!

July 31, 2011 at 10:22 a.m.
fairmon said...

Could the root cause of this problem be the governments involvement in matters it should not be, activities that are beyond the services they are elected to provide?

Confiscating money (taxes) from citizens to make contributions is not appropriate. Using tax payers money for socialist practices like owning businesses and real estate that pay no property taxes but compete with privately owned businesses is questionable.

We are not governed by people that are committed to being good stewards of tax payer money. Business experience and management ability are obviously lacking. They are as influenced by special interest and voter blocks as those in federal government.

July 31, 2011 at 10:28 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

dude....bennett "a hack for the right wing"? what are you smoking. i can't even count how many cartoons bennett has created blasting the tea party movement? you must be joking.

we need to stop promoting a hyphenated society. the media, the establishment of the democrat party, the establishment of the republican party, so called "black leaders", and so called "hispanic leaders", keep it alive.

keeping people divided seems to be a money making enterprise.

obama speaking before la raza is disgraceful. exactly what we don't need. which is par on the course for him.

July 31, 2011 at 10:51 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

It is no surprise that a government enterprise would waste huge amounts of money for dubious, politically correct purposes.

Clay is demonstrating here why government is not to be trusted to make good decisions nor to be trustworthy stewards of our tax dollars.

For some reason, I guess because it is not their money, many people advocate government control of some of the more important aspects of our lives, and then wonder why things never turn out as promised.

When things fall apart, those same people think all you have to do is take even more money from those who work hard trying to make a good life for themselves. After all, you can't have parasites living without television, cell phones and enough food to make them clinically obese, can you?

This is the best cartoon I can remember seeing out of Clay.

July 31, 2011 at 12:39 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

I must say the Chattanooga - Hamilton County region seems to have an overwhelming number of local officials, non-profits, and for-profit business owners who don’t seem to grasp the basics when it comes to professionalism, general accounting procedures, the purpose of audits, and good business practices. In many communities, the local Chamber of Commerce sponsors workshops to help increase the awareness and knowledge of their membership on some of these basics, but I suppose in situations where the Chamber leadership lacks the expertise it would never occur to anyone that there would even be a need for training and workshops.

July 31, 2011 at 12:45 p.m.
LibDem said...

dude_abides: This is a tough crowd for satire.

July 31, 2011 at 2:04 p.m.
acerigger said...

LibDem said...

dude_abides: This is a tough crowd for satire. July 31, 2011 at 2:04 p.m Very true,yet,"chain-yanking" is so much fun!(even if the "yank-ees" are too ignorant to realize.)

July 31, 2011 at 2:28 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Reid votes NO on his own debt limit bill.

Incredible!

July 31, 2011 at 3:11 p.m.
fairmon said...

How many voters think it is appropriate for the city to own and operate the Chattanoogan Hotel, the marina at Ross's Landing, a drug store, a theatre, an auditorium, two golf courses, the old Farmers Market, a health and fitness center is being constructed and will be staffed with professional health care providers. There may be others I am not aware of plus extensive real estate in the city. None of these pay property taxes, I doubt they pay inspection and license fees and public works probably provides some no cost maintenance. This smacks of socialism, what am I missing? Why is my contention the city or county should not own businesses that could be owned and operated by the private sector wrong?

July 31, 2011 at 3:17 p.m.
fairmon said...

The city apparently has significant bond obligations with no provisions to satisfy them at maturity. Recently the council's position was "no choice' but to renew a bond at a cost of of over $15 million dollars exceeding the original obligation. How many more surprises like that are tax payers subjected to? AN often used phrase by some members are "we should be able to find money for that". How do they plan to "find the money" and not increase taxes again?

July 31, 2011 at 3:31 p.m.
moonpie said...

Dude, you are so right!

Clay, I bet you only drink white tea!

July 31, 2011 at 3:51 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Clay is a racist for recognizing the appalling waste at the multicultural chamber of commerce?

Only in the mind of a leftist! Eat your own baby!

July 31, 2011 at 4:01 p.m.
moonpie said...

BRP, you and Francis Santaquliani are certifiable!

July 31, 2011 at 5:16 p.m.

ok...i've had it with you, moonpie, using my full name on this forum. i'm contacting the tfp, by phone, tomorrow. i'm also going to contact my attorney. you continue to use my name on here in order to make me a target. i'm contacting my attorney, and have him take action as well. you're purposely doing that to chase me away and make me a target. if one of my kids so much as stubs a toe, i'm going to file charges against you. if anything suspicious happens anywhere near me, or my family, i'll contact the police. do i make myself clear? i don't know who you are, but i'm telling you to stop using my name on this forum.

you obviously have a difficult time seperating this forum, and the strong opinions people express on here, from real life.

you and other desperate libs on here from day one have commented on my personal life. i have no idea who you are, what you do, or anything about you...as it should be. i expect the same treatment.

i'm not asking you, i'm telling you to stop using my real name on here or else. do i make myself clear. you're clearly making me a target so i don't comment on here. the only problem is, mr. smart ass, you're also involving my family. back off!

i'm also going to find out who you are, and make sure i know who to take action against.

July 31, 2011 at 5:43 p.m.

you don't like me because i use different names...you don't like me because of my blunt attack on liberals and the liberal agenda ...too bad......you need to get off my back.

leave my personal life out of it.....

from now on, moonpie, you address me as seamonkey or liberalismisadisease.....am i understood?

July 31, 2011 at 5:47 p.m.
jwalton said...

Liberalismisadisease,you should contact John Vass Jr., 757-6322, to complain about behavior that violates the Times Free Press' standards and regulations. The rest of you, be civil or be removed. The weekend editor

July 31, 2011 at 7:13 p.m.
fairmon said...

See 3:17 pm post. Apparently no one shares my concern about city politics.

July 31, 2011 at 7:47 p.m.
tderng said...

hey harp....maybe we can all go to work for the city.They keep this up and there won't be anyone else to work for.

I'm with you.I can't figure out why Chattanoogans aren't screaming bloody murder about all the businesses they own.I'm surprised that the competing businesses don't make more of an issue of it.

July 31, 2011 at 9:32 p.m.
moonpie said...

Wow seamonkey, you identified yourself that way...

I thought everyone knew.

July 31, 2011 at 9:33 p.m.
moonpie said...

SM,

So you separate your opinions from your opinions in "real life".

I make no apoligies for my opinions. My main opinion is that we should be civil to one another and not call each other names.

Otherwise, no bridges toward differences can be built. I know the identities of many people on this forum. If John Vass deems it fruitful to identify me, so be it. I still stand for civility. I don't identify other people I know on this forum just because they disagree.

You used your name in your first post. Yet you have multiple identities on this forum. You make very bold statements. And I have defended you on multiple occassions.

I will respect your wish to be anonymous, Francis.

PS I hope your child does not stub a toe.

July 31, 2011 at 9:45 p.m.
Selah said...

What just happened with Moonpie and Liberalismisadisease? Are we missing something?

chet123...where have you been? Someone was looking for you the other day?

July 31, 2011 at 10:56 p.m.
fairmon said...

tdering,

I suspect very few voting citizens know the city owns these businesses nor do they realize with how little intelligence we are governed. How valuable can a department of arts and crafts with a two million dollar annual budget be when compared to an under staffed police and fire department? Just one of many examples of favor showing and vote pandering.

July 31, 2011 at 11:06 p.m.
fairmon said...

We just got another knee jerk reaction bill that no one knows what is really in it. Another bill that has to be passed at the last minute to avoid a perceived catastrophe. This is the strategy used on the Affordable Health Care Act which is one of the most poorly written pieces of legislation in the history of congress. This hiccup may surpass it. Apparently it allows spending to increase 8% per year which doubles the debt in about 9 years.

It may be time to let the Aemrican voters vote yes or no on a balanced budget amendment. I like the concept of if spending exceeds 3% of GDP no sitting member of congress is eligible for reelection. Who can imagine spending 46 TRILLION dollars over the next ten years? The debt rating will be cut, move over Greece, here we come.

July 31, 2011 at 11:19 p.m.
tderng said...

harp...I knew about the two golf courses and the marina.I had heard something about the fitness center but didn't know it was a done deal.where is it being built?

July 31, 2011 at 11:20 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

harp,

I had no idea the city owned all of those businesses. The Chattanooga city government needs to be scaled back. The multicultural chamber of commerce and all of the waste there is probably just the tip of the iceberg.

August 1, 2011 at 12:42 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

moonpie said... "I thought everyone knew"

What a crock. I did not know. I was wondering what that name was that you repeatedly posted with mine.

Maybe this will be an opportunity for all of us here to reel in the silly name calling and vitriol.

August 1, 2011 at 12:48 a.m.
alprova said...

Francis wrote:"ok...i've had it with you, moonpie, using my full name on this forum."

Why should you be bothered by that? You, yourself posted your full name into your very first post in this forum.

"i'm contacting the tfp, by phone, tomorrow. i'm also going to contact my attorney."

And if anything transpires from your complaint, I'll be happy to furnish my attorney to Moonpie, out of my pocket, to fight whatever happens. You have no valid complaint to be made. You posted your name in here. It is common knowledge.

"you continue to use my name on here in order to make me a target. i'm contacting my attorney, and have him take action as well."

Give it your best shot.

"you're purposely doing that to chase me away and make me a target. if one of my kids so much as stubs a toe, i'm going to file charges against you. if anything suspicious happens anywhere near me, or my family, i'll contact the police. do i make myself clear?"

Paranoid much? Maybe you're feeling a little guilty about the way you address people in here. No one has threatened you or is the least bit interested in finding you or your family. In fact, most people ignore you. You're irrelevant to almost all discussions that occur in here.

"i don't know who you are, but i'm telling you to stop using my name on this forum."

Blame yourself. You posted it first.

"you obviously have a difficult time seperating this forum, and the strong opinions people express on here, from real life."

That coming from you is the most hilarious thing you have posted to date.

"i'm also going to find out who you are, and make sure i know who to take action against."

Take action against yourself. You revealed who you were in your first post in this forum, dummy. I urge the TFP to investigate that, for it is a fact.

Word of advice; Address people like you would like to be addressed and you wouldn't find yourself being a coward in real life.

August 1, 2011 at 1:20 a.m.
alprova said...

The funny thing is, Francis, is that had you simply ignored the posting of your name, no one would have been the wiser. When I read that post that Moonpie wrote, I saw it but neglected to take note of it.

When you blew your top over it and called complete attention to your real name, I became curious, and so I discovered that the web has quite a dossier on you. I now know your name, your address, your age, what company you work for, and much more.

But have no fear. I don't wish you any harm whatsoever. Your information is safe with me. It's funny as heck to see you squirm for once. It's not so funny from where you sit now, is it?

Just remember, you're never anonymous online. Never. People are as brave as Thor, until their underbelly is exposed. Then they tuck that tail between their legs and whimper like a little puppy.

Go ahead and change your posting identity and see how long before someone picks up on the fact that it is you, Francis. It only takes a post or two to figure it out.

August 1, 2011 at 2:05 a.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "Maybe this will be an opportunity for all of us here to reel in the silly name calling and vitriol."

If that were to occur, then what purpose would you then have in life? You'd find it difficult to exist, would you not, creep?

August 1, 2011 at 2:09 a.m.
alprova said...

I made an error when I posted earlier. Francis does not work for a company. He owns the company, and it is one that produces products that practically everyone who participates in here has probably seen at one time or another and is somewhat likely to have purchased if you were in the right place at the right time. He's very national.

I'd have bet my right arm that you drew a disability check or something like it every month. Imagine my shock to learn the above.

I can't imagine for the life of me, why a man of your means would play so many games in an online forum.

Oh well.

P.S. - Who designed your website? It needs an update, badly.

August 1, 2011 at 3:45 a.m.
fairmon said...

tdering,

It is my understanding the health and fitness center has been approved. I talked to a city employee that was elated and told me where it would be but I don't recall the exact location. The city employee was elated, they already have this service but this will be a state of the art work out facility with a Dr. and health care professionals.

The council insist it will save tax payers money on health care. A very liberal health care coverage is expensive. God forbid they consider changing it to be consistent with what most people have. The cities benefits and pension package future cost will eventually put Chattanooga in a position similar to Pritchard, Alabama. As I understand it city fire and police personnel do not participate in social security therefore the city provides a pension and health care for life for pensioners and spouse. I have not confirmed this but the source seemed sure and credible.

I am sure city council members have access to the facility and the drug store where prescriptions are provided at cost or huge discounts. Could there be a conflict of interest? I wish the TFP would assign a full time investigative reporter to investigate and educate citizens. Requesting the city to have a published independent financial audit and an independent wage survey with compensation adjusted to be consistent with like work in the private sector will fall on deaf ears. I get no response to emails recommending this to the mayor and my council member.

August 1, 2011 at 7:58 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Did you know that Egan Jones has already downgraded the US debt?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-18/egan-jones-cuts-u-s-rating-to-aa-on-spending-cut-concern-1-.html

It is not about the debt ceiling, it is about spending and our government's inability to curb it. The recent Boehner plan is a sell out.

August 1, 2011 at 10:15 a.m.
OllieH said...

Wow, look at the dust fly when SeaMonkey's true identity is exposed.

The whole episode got me to thinking. All of us who regularly post our opinions here (including me), do so behind a mask of anonymity. Shielded by our pseudonyms, we find ourselves emboldened to present views that might offend some, and we can do this free from any concern about the repercussions. No matter how unpopular our views, none of us have to worry about reprisals from those we anger, the safety of our families, or the security of our jobs.

There is an exception to the rule. There is one person here who expresses opinions that are routinely scorned, ridiculed and despised. He does so under his real name, he includes his work address, his phone number and an email address. He even posts a photo of himself so there's absolutely no confusion as to the source of the commentary. The only person on this page who truly demonstrates the courage of his convictions is Clay Bennett.

Perhaps we've finally found one thing that SeaMonkey can admire about our cartoonist.

August 1, 2011 at 10:34 a.m.
eastridge8 said...

HEY! chet123...where have you been? I was asking about you on another post...you aren't talking in CAPS today...have you been ill? Seriously chet, we've missed you...Welcome back.

August 1, 2011 at 10:34 a.m.
chet123 said...

Selah....i'm back....went out of town for a few days......but i'm back now.....i got to regain my passion.....where's seamonkey??? He knows how to get me fired up....

August 1, 2011 at 10:42 a.m.
chet123 said...

Hello eastridge!......Glad to be back......missed you guys!

August 1, 2011 at 10:45 a.m.
eastridge8 said...

Great! I'm just glad you're OK, chet...

August 1, 2011 at 10:57 a.m.
chet123 said...

I'm SURPRISED THE MEDIA HAVE NOT LOOK INTO SHERRIE GILCHRIST BACKGROUND....SHE HAS A HISTORY OF MISAPPROPRIATING FUNDS...HOPE THE TIMES FREE-PRESS CHECK INTO THE SCANDLE SHE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF AT NEW UNITED CHURCH....THE LADY HAVE NO CONSCIENCE..SHAME ON THE BOARD,SHAME ON THE BOARD...THIS IS A CLASSIC GOOD OLE BOYS SYSTEMS WORKING HERE...MONEY GOING TO PAD POCKETS....GILCHRIST WAS OVER-PAID FOR WHAT SHE ACCOMPLISHED OR FAIL TO ACCOMPLISHED.....IT WILL BE IRRESPONSIBLE IF THE MEDIA DONT LOOK INTO HER PASSED TRANSGRESSION

August 1, 2011 at 11:03 a.m.

moonpie must have found his "Rules for Radicals" with the personal attack. Too bad. It might bring down the entire comments feature.

Idiot move but not shocking behavior... coming from the left.

August 1, 2011 at 4:02 p.m.
chet123 said...

LIBERTARIANS4FREEDOM....YOU REALLY DO FEAR THE NAACP LOL LOL LOL...WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO BRING THEIR NAME UP..LOL LOL MAYBE BECAUSE YOU CANT MISTREAT A SEGMENT OF PEOPLE IN COUNTRY IN AN UNFAIR MATTER WITHOUT REPRISAL...YOU GO FROM MULTI-CULTURE TO RACISM...Hmmm WANDER WHY? Hmmmmm....NOONE DEFENDING THE MULITI-CULTURE PEOPLE LIKE YOU DEFENDED DICK CHENEY WHEN HE WAS STEALING TAX PAYER MONEY THRU HALTONBURTON......SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT....OR ARE YOU CAPABLE OF THINKING....YOU MY FRIEND TRY TO PLAY THE VICTIM AS IF YOU BEING UNJUSTLY BRANDED AS A RACIST.....I SAY TO YOU MY FRIEND...IF IT QUACK LIKE A DUCK WALK LIKE A DUCK,SWIM LIKE A DUCK THEN IT IS A DUCK LOL LOL ....REVEIW YOUR PASSED COMMENT AND YOU WILL SEE YOUR ACTUAL WORDS......LOL LOL SO DONT PLAY VICTIM....TAKE IT LIKE A MAN OR JUST SHOUT UP

August 1, 2011 at 4:13 p.m.
fairmon said...

BRP, More credit rating downgrades will follow driving interest rates on the debt up. The bill congress is bragging about provides for an 8% increase in spending each year. It is impossible to curb the debt increase with GDP growth of 2%. It is impossible to accomplish what is needed with unemployment over 9% and real under and unemployed closer to 17%. No one in Washington is suggesting anything that will improve that situation. They all say we need to be creating jobs but not a one says how except with government spending or stimulus money.

The problem is we have lost millions of decent paying jobs that people can do without college degrees or specialized skills. Building TVs, cell phones, small electronics the textiles industry, making shoes, plastic products, and others no longer exist or struggling to stay in business. We are importing more and more food products. The middle class has lost in number and income.

When people here someone say a business should not pay taxes and other government imposed cost it scares them to death and their greed comes out. Little do they realize any cost imposed on a business is included in what they pay for goods or services.

August 1, 2011 at 6:16 p.m.
fairmon said...

I haven't seen one post that justifies the city contributing to any chamber of commerce. I haven't seen any legitimate justification for the city funding community recreation centers instead of those in the community funding and maintaining their facilities. The councils attitude is we have to do these things instead of we only have so much money and we have future obligations plus we need a rainy day fund to cover economic downturns. They are like a kid in a candy store with money in his pocket.

August 1, 2011 at 6:31 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

It's the internet, folks. You can't hide much on it. Just food for thought.

I've told my kids repeatedly that whatever you put on the internet, floats around out there forever.

jwalton, thanks for posting that number. I have some complaints of my own...especially about how nasty one Francis/SeaMonkey/Liberalismiswhatever has been at times. And, yes, I knew what his name was, too. He POSTED IT ON THE TFP.

And what's with the multiple handles? A person should be confident enough to have JUST ONE and stick with it!

Back to the cartoon...is that a weed, Clay?

August 1, 2011 at 11:59 p.m.
OllieH said...

Libertarians4Freedom stated, that Clay made "the point that when you throw money at multiculturalism, nothing grows."

I think that interpretation is a bit of an overreach. Certainly, this cartoon makes the point that a lot of money has been invested in this particular group with little result, but I don't see it as some blanket indictment of 'multiculturalism' at all. The Multicultural Chamber of Commerce may be a failure as an organization, but not as an idea.

I don't think the revelations about, or the investigation into, the business practices of the Multicultural Chamber of Commerce were inspired by racism, but I'm not at all sure I can say the same about some of the comments on this page.

August 2, 2011 at 9:29 a.m.
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