published Thursday, June 2nd, 2011

5 at 10: The end of the Shaq era, Steve Spurrier quotes and THE Ohio State blame game

Radio reminders: We'll be on "The Show" on 1310 AM with Chris Goforth today around 2 p.m.

From the "7-Up Stinks Studios" here we go...



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    Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor arrives for a players only meeting at the Woody Hayes Complex in Columbus, Ohio. (AP Photo/Terry Gilliam)

As Columbus turns

Terrelle Pryor, THE quarterback at THE Ohio State University, has now moved into the crosshairs. Pryor has been the high-profile name among the gear-for-tattoo scandals that have led to OSU coach Jim Tressel's downfall and his resignation earlier this week. Pryor has been linked to more than a half-dozen "loaner" cars, including the 350Z he drove to the team meeting on Tuesday. He drove to that meeting despite not having a valid driver's license.

Pryor, who currently is suspended for the first five games of the upcoming season, has more than likely played his last game for THE Ohio State University.

It appears Pryor has made more than his fair share of mistakes, and he will pay for them. But to say Pryor is to blame for Tressel's downfall is at best misguided and at worst it could be racist. Tressel is a multi-time NCAA violator, leaving Youngstown State amid NCAA controversy for the Ohio State job a decade ago. Tressel's three best/most high profile Buckeyes — Pryor, Maurice Clarett and Troy Smith — all committed NCAA violations, and the only link to the three was Tressel.

This is not to excuse Pryor, who broke the rules and should be punished. But to make the player the scapegoat here is the easy, traditional way out. THE Ohio State University players started this gear-for-cash/tattoos stuff as far back as 2002, according to Sports Illustrated. In the fall of 2002, Terrelle Pryor was 13 years old and as far as we know, did not have any tattoos.

Pryor made mistakes, sure, but the blame firmly falls on Tressel and THE Ohio State University. And AD Gene Smith, you're turn in the crosshair is coming sooner rather than later.



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    South Carolina head coach Steve Spurrier looks up toward the scoreboard after a touchdown and extra point during the second quarter of an NCAA college football game against Tennessee at Williams Brice Stadium on Saturday, Oct. 30, 2010, in Columbia, SC. (AP Photo/Rich Glickstein)

Paying players

Leave it to Steve Spurrier to pull a rabbit out of his visor at the SEC Spring Meetings. From the Ole' Ball Coach on Wednesday at the Sandestin Hilton in Destin, Fla. "A bunch of us coaches felt so strongly about it that we would be willing to pay it — 70 guys, 300 bucks a game," Spurrier told reporters. "That's only $21,000 a game. I doubt it will get passed, but as coaches in the SEC, we make all the money — as do universities, television — and we need to get more to our players." Spurrier wrote his pitch out and had some of his SEC colleagues sign it. (Of course that "noble" gesture is paramount to the 5-at-10 writing a proposal that says, "If we had a billion dollars, we'd give a lot of money to charities," then signing it and then having Oso and EC sign it.)

The 5-at-10 has passed the Tired exit on this highway of discussion of paying college players and speeding toward the Exasperated rest area. The system has major flaws — MAJOR

flaws — and they need to be addressed. But paying players hardly seems like the answer; in fact it seems that paying players will only introduce more problems.

Coaches giving kickbacks to their 70 players — and as noble and altruistic as Spurrier's offer is, it has the appearance of kickbacks — certainly does not seem like a solution. First, like all proposals, the Title IX questions must be answered. If any paying players plan comes from the school — or its employees — then it has to be offered across the board. And if you're going to pay all college athletes, well, that will be the end of college athletics as we know it. Remember, there are all of like 20 schools turning a profit, and the rest are doing their best to break even. (And a lot of them are losing money.) And if you add salaries — even if it's cut from the coaches' salaries — Secondly, and this is borrowing from SportTalk's Dr. B (he is a doctor, after all), "Where does it stop?" If the $300 a game is the answer today, where will that lead? And even if the players are legally given $300, will that stop the illegal money and benefits? No.Done



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    Miami Heat's LeBron James, center, shoots as James Jones, left, looks on during a practice session, Wednesday, June 1, 2011, in Miami. The Heat will play the Dallas Mavericks in Game 2 of the NBA basketball finals on Thursday in Miami. (AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee)

Finals preview Game 2

Simply put, tonight is a huge, Huge, HUGE game for the Dallas Mavericks. A win makes this a series; a Miami Heat blowout gives this series the feel of sweep.

How will Dirk Nowitzki play with the injured finger on his left (non-shooting) hand? Can LeBron James follow up his nearly flawless Game 1 showing? Will the Heat bench outscore the Mavs bench again? Will Dallas shoot the ball better?

The 5-at-10's answers: Very good; Yes; No — not even close; Yes.

And all that said, unless the Mavs start very, Very, VERY quickly, the Heat will win tonight. Miami has three of the four best players on the floor, and the Heat are incredibly tough in games that are decided by one or two possessions because LeBron can guard anyone.



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    Orlando Magic's Shaquille O'Neal dunks the ball and comes down on Denver Nuggets' Dikembe Mutombo during action at the Orlando Arena Tuesday Feb. 13, 1996. Orlando defeated Denver, 121-93.(AP Photo/Steve Simoneau)

Bye-bye Shaq

"Can you dig it?"

Shaquille O'Neal retired Wednesday, leaving behind a legacy as one of the game's most physically dominating players of all time. The 5-at-10's clearest memory of O'Neal was in college, when the future NBA Hall of Famer came to Auburn with his LSU teammates. How impressive was O'Neal? Well the game was a sell-out at Auburn, and selling out an Auburn basketball game is doing something.

O'Neal won four NBA titles and was a 15-time all-star. He won an NBA MVP and will be a first-ballot Hall of Famer. And as great a player as he was, Shaq was one of the more enjoyable and energetic and infectious personalities in all of sports. (Thank you, Neon Boudeaux.)

But where does O'Neal rank on the list of all time centers? As physically unstoppabe as Shaq was -- and he was impossible to stop physically -- there are some slights on his resume.

He missed more than 8,000 free throws in his career. Read that again. His 53-percent free-throw shooting often forced O'Neal to the bench at crunch time of close games.

Depending on your criteria, here's the 5-at-10's 5-in-10: NBA Centers

1) Wilt Chamberlain — Averaged 50 ppg one year; Shaq before Shaq

2) Kareem Abdul Jabaar — Owned sport's most unstoppable shot; still whining about statues

3) Bill Russell — The game's most accomplished champion

4) Hakeem Olajuwan — So skilled, clearly the best player on two-time champion

5) Shaq — So strong; and a gift for fans and basketball



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    Boston Bruins defenseman Andrew Ference (21), collides with Vancouver Canucks defenseman Kevin Bieksa (3), in the first period during Game 1 of the NHL hockey Stanley Cup Finals, Wednesday, June 1, 2011, in Vancouver, British Columbia. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)

This and that

— The Braves avoided a sweep against the Padres with a 4-3 win Wednesday night in large part because of what has become an all-too-expected outstanding pitching performance.

Other than one bad pitch — a Tommy Hanson hanger that became a two-run homer for Kyle Phillips — the Braves pitchers were great. And the back end of the bullpen of set-up guy Jonny Venters and closer Craig Kimbrel continue to be dominant. Venters fanned the three batters he faced in the eighth and Kimbrel struck out two in the ninth. The offense is still struggling; Brian McCann is hitting better than .300, but no other regular is hitting better than .280. And Sweet Mendoza Line, Dan Uggla's down to a less-than-robust .175 after taking another bagel last night. Wow.

— Vancouver scored a goal in the final minute to beat Boston 1-0 in Game 1 in the Stanley Cup Finals. But, holy preschool dust-ups, one of the Vancouver players bit (yes, BIT) a Boston player. What's next, hair pulling?

— Allegedly, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell had a secret meeting with a handful of NFL owners. The mental image is the cartoon millionaires (picture the "Monopoly" guy with top hat and eye piece and the whole works) lighting cigars with $100 bills. Seriously, any time the words "secret" and "meetings" are linked it's rarely a good thing, but with late-breaking news that the head of the players association was in attendance, this may be the first good news in months.

Until tomorrow.

about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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Eustice_Chase said...

It is hard for me disagree with your evaluation of NBA big men...even though...IF Jordan doesnt leave the NBA for a AA Minor League Baseball experience..Hakeem doesnt get those Championships...but if "Ifs and buts were candies and nuts we would all have a Merry Christmas"

If you compile a list of NBA superstars off the court its hard not to put Shaq at #2 or #3 behind MJ and Magic only... I for one will miss the Big 401K...hes the reason I started watching the NBA at the ripe age of 7...does that tell my age?? 19+7= (Im a man..Im not 40 but Im a man..thats turns 26 this year)

can someone explain the term "Non-Shooting" hand...with the exception of Lay ups, Sky Hooks and some slam dunks....it takes two hands to shoot the ball....Dirk will not be bothered with this....but he will be bothered by going to Dallas down 2-0...sorry Dirk..its not in the cards...in 06 you met a Ticked of Shaq and a Hungry D-Wade...in '11 your facing the BIG 3 who wanna prove everyone wrong/right....

and for the love of John Lennon's sunglasses...Ricki Rubio is coming to the NBA..finally...Did Kevin's love right guard commercials seal the deal for Rubio??? I think so!!

Heard ya on Sports Talk yesterday! Way to go! If You need my "Hurbie Hancock" on any documentation just holla...as long as the NCAA isnt involved in any way....

Dan Uggla...Someone Show the Braves front office were Mulligans can be purchased please.....

June 2, 2011 at 10:30 a.m.
patrickd said...

I read the 5-at-10 each day for the 5-at-10-recap by Eustice_Chase at 10:05.

Eustice, think about a name change... 5-at-10:05!

June 2, 2011 at 10:38 a.m.
bigbearzzz said...

lol...thats awesome patrick! Ummm...group question..."But, holy preschool dust-ups, one of the Vancouver players bit (yes, BIT) a Boston player. What's next, hair pulling?" Cant we just say that he pulled a Tyson from now on? And I think we should officially declare Thursdays as "Anything Goes Thursdays" from now on cause if you go back...every Thursday...the comments on Thursdays are crazt...not sure why...maybe different rotation in Ursula Minor or something....just...freaky is all im sayin

June 2, 2011 at 10:51 a.m.
jgreeson said...

EC —

Sweet Mother of Eddie Murphy's stand-up... That's an OUT-standing way to start the day.

Braves' mulligans, a Gundy "I'm a MAN, I'm 40 reference," John's Lennon's spectacles, the shooting hand question (which is both funny and deep, chew on that BIspy) and some real NBA knowledge, and a Tommy Boy "Herbie Hancock" shout-out. Wow.

We would say, "Well-played, sir," but that does not do it justice.

Agree on Shaq-Fu being ion the top 3 of NBA personalities of our lifetime (And we are 40). Great line about Dirk, which could have been Hakeem's scenario if Jordan had not "decided" to play minor league baseball. Hey, Rubio and Kevin Love, nice start for the T-Wolves. Here's saying Rubio somehow ends up in a three-team deal to NYC (and if Russell Westbrook doesn't wake-up and smell the coffee that the Thunder are Durant's team, Rubio may be headed to OKC).

Love doing SportTalk, and doing the Goforth Show, too.

PDavi —

Great line, but if EC is going to change his name, we will have to have some sort of "The Decision II: Where will EC take his talents" type of of thing.

Oso —

Spot on about crazy Thursdays. Never know where we're heading. And yes, the unexplained bite can be called the "Tyson" from now on. (That reminds us of "The Simpsons" episode where they coined the term, "Pulling a Homer.")

Great start gang.

— 5-at-10

June 2, 2011 at 11:10 a.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

After looking over the 2009 NBA draft...Ricky Rubio was pretty much all that was left worth taking??....Griffin, Harden and Evans were off the board...but is Rubio really that great? Im not too current on my global basketabll players....

Anybody seen the youtube video of the little boy getting his finger chewed off by Charlie...Pretty sure the kid says..."Charlie Tyson'd my finer...that hurt Charlie"

Speaking of Tyson...his cameo in The Hangover Part II..is stunning!!! left me speechless...

I enjoyed hearing that the LA Lakers will be planning to retire Shaq's #34 before he is HOF eligible...talk about awesome...how will Kobe handle this particular day? and will Dwight Howard be in attendance?

If we start paying College Athletes...how long before our High School football teams are cashing checks? and we are hearing about XBOX 360/PS3 pay for play scams in the halls of our local Middle Schools...Good Gravy Bill...this has to stop before it gets started!!!

June 2, 2011 at 11:33 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

Too busy to type. Still chewing on the non-shooting hand. Need some salt and ketchup. It's no catfish fingers, but it is lunch time.

June 2, 2011 at 11:58 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

Shaq was certainly one of the most imposing, dominant big men ever. And for what it's worth, Wilt was no great free throw shooter, either. But with Shaq, his last couple of years will be remembered for being forgettable. He's going to enter that area of "he played for us? really? when?" for Cavs fans and Celtics fans, who may recall the brief Pete Maravich era before they associate The Big Aristotle with the green and white. Still, he was fun to have around. Never seemed to take himself too seriously. A quality that is less and less prevalent among today's egocentric, narcissistic professional athlete. And at THE Ohio Cheat University.

June 2, 2011 at 12:06 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

BIspy4- I have to ask, how do you feel about Kevin McHale being named the new Houston Rockets Coach?..Nice Line about Ohio State...

TMZ reporting Live- Mark Sanchez is currently dating Hayden Pan of Tiarras...A little advice to the Jets QB...her Ex..Wladimir Klistchko..is a bad dude...and she played the daughter of Coach Yost on Remember the Titans...those dudes wont play Sanchez!...Rex Ryan Wont save you if you screw this up!!

June 2, 2011 at 12:14 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

like the Center list, agree with all but Hakeem. Not sure about that pick and kinda agree that if MJ hadnt of retired, H.O. wouldnt have gotten his rings. As far as the pay for play....yeah exactly next topic please...hey while were at it....did you guys hear about this steroid scandal thats supposedly rocking the MBL? Some are even saying Barry Bonds is involved...cuhrazy!!! side non sports realted note (Anything goes Thursdays) had an eight year old come up to me at church last night (teaching the kids class) and tell me that her favorite movie is Titanic..at what age is Titanic appropriate to view? Hello...Kate Winslet on the couch scene...yeah thats approriate TV for an EIGHT year old...sry...had to vent. Back to sports shall we....TIGER HAD AN AFFIAR?!?! WHAT?!?! Cinco I am right on board with you on this, enough already. There has to be something else sports goin on right now to discuss. Although the stupid coaches are the ones that keep putting it back out there. And yes...major part of the responsibilty rests on the coaches. They know whats goin on...they always know....like the Godfather...

June 2, 2011 at 12:17 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Have always loved McHale. Is there any sport where coaching is more overrated and superfluous than the NBA? Seriously, there’s like two plays in the NBA — the isolation and the pick and roll. There are others, like take one dribble and hoist a 24-footer with a guy in your grille with 17 seconds still left on the shot clock. That’s always a good one. In five years, will anyone remember who coached the Mavs and Heat in this year’s Finals? Will they say the guy who used to coach the Pacers or something and the dude who was Erik Estrada’s stand-in? McHale had more moves in the low post than Gregory and Albert Hines had on the stage. Unless he gets Yao Ming back to health or suits up himself, it may not matter much who’s coaching the Rockets. Just hope McHale doesn’t decide to order pizza on the bench again or get caught up in counting the number of bolts in the parquet floor. A Shaq story for you all. Knew a fella who was a PE teacher at the base where Shaq lived for a couple of years (Eric Zeier was on the same base at about the same time). PE teacher was not a particularly big guy. Probably about 5-7, 5-8, but a great great guy. Well, one day young Mr. O’Neal acted up and Mr. Baker had to paddle him. Next day, a big dude, and I mean a dude just eat up with big, comes strolling across the schoolyard in his fatigues. He walks up to the PE teacher. “You Mr. Baker?” “Yes.” (And Herman told me he was shaking because this guy was a foot taller, with shoulders broader than Claudell Washington’s). “You paddle my boy Shaquille yesterday?” Gulp. “Yes I did.” The big man stuck out a giant hand. “I want to thank you. And if you need to do it again, just go on and do it.” “Thanks.” Yep, it was Sgt. Harrison, Shaq’s step-daddy.

June 2, 2011 at 12:34 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

Blspy, loved the "He played for us?" line...awesome! Wonder if that ranks right up there with the baseball team MJ played on? Or the team that Joe Montana retired from? (TRAGEDY BY THE WAY! NO WAY HE SHOULD HAVE WENT ANYWHERE ELSE!)And yes...if Sanchez blows that one he can expect to get blitz aaaallll night long! Blitz every play! As far as coaches in the NBA goes, do they really still run plays in the NBA?!? They're some coaches that will be remembered but will they be remembered for WHO they coached rather than WHAT they accomplished while they coached?

June 2, 2011 at 12:36 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

I also want to throw one Bill Walton into the best centers mix. His feet betrayed him but when he was healthy — and not in northern California and Oregon on, um, “vacation” — he was terrific. His last year healthy was 86 and he was a huge difference maker for the Celtics that year. His years with the Clippers were wasted years (has anyone’s time with the Clippers not been classified as wasted?) but his early years with the Trail Blazers, he was awesome.

June 2, 2011 at 12:40 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Geez, fellows, a 5-at-10 goes to Wally's for lunch (lima beans, black-eyed peas and chicken & dumplins) with the 5-at-10 family and you guys go nuts. By the way, as bad as 7-Up stinks, that's how much Wally's rocks.

BIspy —

Love that Shaq story. And yes, he was among the giants on and off the court. Walton's probably top 10 centers (his career kind of mirrors Koufax's, brilliant for a short period, but not enough to mount a serious charge among the all-timers). And yes, everyone's career with the Clippers has some wasted years (and yes, you used "wasted" and Walton in the same sentence and weren't discussing the herb or the Grateful Dead).

List time in honor of BIspy's great "He played for us" point:

Top 5 worst jersey images to end a pro career: — Montana with the Chiefs — Jordan with the Wizards — Tony Dorsett with the Broncos — Emmitt Smith with the Cardinals — Favre with the Jets, Vikings, and whichever teams he signs with when the labor unrest is over

Thoughts?

EC —

How old is Coach Yost's daughter? And weren't there whispers about Sanchez and some teenager like last year? Be-wary careful when hunting wabbits, Mark. Especially when those rabbits used to date 6-foot-10 heavyweight boxing champs from Russia.

Oso —

Great call on Titanic. As for Hakeem, the 5-at-10 may be a little biased (we loved, Loved, LOVED those Phi Slamma Jamma teams with Hakeem and Clyde Drexler and Michael Young at Univ. of Houston). But Hakeem led the NBA in rebounding multiple times (Shaq never did) and in blocks (Shaq never did) and was an MVP. Plus, dude had three go-to offensive moves and was the best free-throw shooter of the five names on that list.

Yes, if MJ stayed with the Bulls rather than joining the Barons Hakeem may not have won a ring — and we would not be having this discussion. But we can play the "But" game with a lot of the names in all of the all-time great discussions.

— 5-at-10

June 2, 2011 at 1:17 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

Wow...thanks for ruining my 160 cal non-flavored non-filling chicken noodle soup lunch by mentioning Wally's...you rock cinco. I would almost put Steve McNair on that list just cause I was a Titans fan (Pre Young Era...didnt like seeing him in the Ravens uniform....

June 2, 2011 at 1:35 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Wally's ... dang it, 5er, you had to go and get in a Wally's today, didn't ya? Well, I did go to Baldino's earlier this week, so I guess it balances out.

June 2, 2011 at 1:47 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

Wally's...love that place...Me and friend went one morning for Breakfast, i was asked if i wanted to read the TFP with my coffee by a waitress....DUH...Winning!

Not sure how old she is... Sanchez has become quite the playboy...fitting of a South Cali grad...There are only a few coaches that People Remember... Red Auerbach, Phil Jackson, Pat Riley and maybe if we try hard Larry Brown....thats it..can anybody name the coach of those teams before those guys took over??? Nope!...You gotta win, win big, win often...and ITS ALL ABOUT WHO YOU COACH...Mike Brown doesnt get the Laker Job or the 18 Mill over 4 years if Lebron played somewhere besides Cleveland...Cant wait for Gm 2 tonight...and hopefully a semi-interesting Baseball game will be on the TV....was forced to switch between Braves Vs Padres & 1993 Riddick Bowe vs Evander Holyfield last night... how is it an 18 year old boxing match is more entertaining that a Live Braves Game....???? thank goodness Tommy Hanson was on his A game last night other wise that game is sickening !!!

Involuntary muscle spasm…look at the show…look at the show

June 2, 2011 at 1:57 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Wally's rules. "Sorry folks, park's closed, Moose out front should've told you."

Oso —

McNair could be on that list. Karl Malone in Lakers gear could be, too.

And the pictures of Babe Ruth in a Dodgers uni are troubling.

BIspy —

Baldino makes a fine sammich. "That's some high quality H-2-O."

EC —

Wally's is the best breakfast in town. Period.

Coaching in the NBA is all about managing egos. Isolating problems and picking your battles and rolling with the flow have become way more important than calling plays and timeouts.

Listen to the coaches when ABC looks into the huddles tonight: "C'mon guys we have to rebound." "Hey guys, let's get open shots." "We can't turn the ball over." It's not like Jim Carey's lookalike or Erik Estrada are "Runnin' the picket fence at them. And boys, don't get caught watching the paint dry."

Managing the egos is no easy task, mind you but that's the biggest chore for NBA coaches. "It's all ball-bearings nowadays."

— 5-at-10

June 2, 2011 at 1:58 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

EC i totally agree. I mean sure we'll remember Pat Summit for ever but that has to do with demograhpics and her accomplishments. But if i were to lay it out and say ok which coach has the highest winningest % versus who coached both MJ and Kobe....im gonna know the second one! And thank you for mentioning Wally's breakfast bar...which is nowhere as filling as my 90 cal Special K breakfast Bar...have i mentioned this week that i hate dieting.....Wh what....who dat...who dare......oh and i saw a really cool pic the other day (since you mentioned the babe cinco) of the lady down here in Chattanooga that struck out the Babe in Engel Stadium...i love, love LOVE old skool baseball memorabilia like that....old black and white, faded photos...this was taken at Engles Stadium with the babe in the background....great pic!

June 2, 2011 at 2:03 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

and as far as Players ending their career in the wrong uni

Hows Greg Maddux in a Dodger Uniform...or a Padre uniform...(seeing that a few of us are Braves Homers)...that just hurt

June 2, 2011 at 2:16 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

The worst example of a player ending his career in another uni - and I know this may get lost on those who don't follow hockey - is Bobby Orr in a Chicago Blackhawks jersey. Just ... gut-wrenching. Also, Murph in a Colorado Rockies uni. Just wasn't right, you know.

June 2, 2011 at 3:05 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

Well since we discussed players finishing the careers up with teams they shouldnt have, how about players that played their entire career stuck on teams they shouldnt have been on. The first one that pops to my mind of course is Barry Sanders. There is a guy who no way should have ever played in a Detroit Uni....and of course how about Dan Marino? Does he fit into that category? just thinking out loud

June 2, 2011 at 3:06 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

Muprhy was chasing that 400th HR...sadly he never got it...what an underrated player on some terrible Braves teams...

June 2, 2011 at 3:09 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Very quickly on the anthems before last night's Game 1 of the Stanley Cup Final (no "s" at the end, and I don't get it, either): Dude singing the Star Spangled Banner sang it quickly, which is good, because it is uptempo and needs to sung at a quick pace. But he sang it like he the cops were giving him a parking ticket outside. No booing, though, from the Canadians, seeing as how their best player is from the U.S. When they sang "O Canada," the anthem singer (a different dude) did not sing the second verse. He stops and lets the crowd sing it by themselves. And everybody in the building complied. That was awesome to hear the crowd, the entire crowd, singing it.

June 2, 2011 at 3:10 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Murph in a Phillies uni wasn't much better?

Like the mention of Maddux and hated seeing Smoltz in other colors, too.

Oso —

We see what your saying, guys that would have been much bigger stars than they already were if they had been on another club, but stayed with that club anyway. Here are the top five guys that stayed true to their clubs despite up-and-down years and less-than-ideal situations (we'll call this the All-Pure-Decision team — guys that took their talents to the ball park):

Ripken, Cal

Gwynn, Tony

Sanders, Barry

Marino, Dan

Stockton, John

BIspy —

Orr is great one. So is Johnny U in a Chargers jersey. And Jerry Rice. And Curly Neal. He'll always be a Globetrotter to us. And Ole Anderson will also be one of the "Four Horseman" depsite the fatc they kicked him out and replaced him with Lex Luger. How could Arn Anderson be a part to that. It's his own cousin for cryin' out loud.

The humanity.

— 5-at-10

June 2, 2011 at 3:28 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

Please Dont even get me started on the Four Horseman... The Anderson's were a Tag Team Dream! The Enforcer Double A Arn Anderson and Ole Anderson..not only did those guys look like they could beat the crap out of you...they could probably out drink you...square dance better than you...and replace the restrictor plates off the Red Dragon!!!

Then they got rid Of Arn and Tully temporarilyof course! How about in the mid 90's when Flair recruited Steve Mongo McMichael?!?!? Come on give me a break!!!!

June 2, 2011 at 3:41 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

You did not just play a Four Horseman Card!?!?! But you have to admit...Ole was the weak link there...and who wouldnt want Lex Lugar on ur side?!?! And im sorry but the Andersons dont beat Animal and Hawk nor Rickie Morton and Robert Gibson.....Go ahead wrestling buffs...name those teams! (the first one is too easy)

June 2, 2011 at 3:41 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Arn Anderson ... who played on West Rome's state championship teams for one Nick Hyder. If what I'm told is true. Gene Anderson was the wrestling version of the other Cunningham brother. Montana wasn't bad as a Chief (saw him engineer a last minute game winning drive against the Falcons in the Georgia Dome as a Chief) and Rice had moments with the Ray-duhs. But yeah, Johnny U in anything other than the blue and white Colts garb is aback taking. Murph in a Phils uniform (Tommy Greene had a couple of good years for them till his arm went south) wasn't easy to get used to. OK, it never made sense.

June 2, 2011 at 3:50 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

The Road Warriors or Legion Of Doom and the Rock N Roll Express

June 2, 2011 at 3:52 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

There was something pure and classic about the Andersons...Nobody tops The Road Warrios..NOBODY... they are in a class all their own.... who remembers Stan Lane and Beautiful Bobby Eaton??

Bobby Eaton, that mullet and his leg drop from the top rope..THE ALABAMA JAM... classic!!!!

June 2, 2011 at 3:55 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

Midnight Express? Is that it? With Jimmy Mouth of the South Heart?! Man those were the golden years of wrestling...Dusty Rhodes...and nobody tops the Road Warriors although i believe the Ultimate Warrior tried...no where near it. But the Rock and Roll Express, they were my heroes....never forget seeing them at the UTC Arena when they came to town....

June 2, 2011 at 3:58 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

actually it was Jim Cornett with the Tennis Racket... The Mouth of the South had the Megaphone and those crazy air brushed jakcets

June 2, 2011 at 4:01 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

yes sir you are correct and i do stand corrected. it was Jim Cornett and that tennis racket....

June 2, 2011 at 4:04 p.m.
Eustice_Chase said...

That escalated quickly...I did not see that coming

June 2, 2011 at 4:16 p.m.
jgreeson said...

"Yeah, Brick killed a guy."

Knew today was going to be a good day (didn't even have to use my A-K).

Guys, great stuff. But where's Tommy "Wildfire" Rich. Or Tony Atlas. Or JYD. The guys that Gordon Sole brought home to our living room on Saturday nights on WTBS 17 in Atlanta before it became a Superstation.

Picture an 8-year-old 5-at-10, hopped up on Coke-Cola and M&M's, wide-eyed and screamin' and here comes Wildfire Rich down the aisle at the Omni. It was the screamin' highlight of our young lives.

Southern boys are always going to have at least brief love affairs with all of the following:

— Braves baseball

— Fishing

— Cars that are too fast for us

— Girls that are too fast for us

— And wrastlin'

And that's all we got to say about that.

— 5-at-10

June 2, 2011 at 4:41 p.m.
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