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about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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SavartiTN said...

Ah...the twitter bird got the worm...uh...weiner.

June 7, 2011 at 1:42 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO BE STUPID

Apparently, the congressman hit 'reply all' instead of 'reply.'

Not sure that's as stupid as not knowing who Paul Revere warned or where the 'shot heard round the world' was fired.

Anyway, I'm sure that the tea bagger knot heads will be pleased as punch that Clay attacked a Democrat.

June 7, 2011 at 2:30 a.m.
alprova said...

I wouldn't call this an attack, per se, but there is little doubt that it has been a slow news week. Much too much has been made of this entire "affair."

While the photo in question has been repeatedly called "lewd," the fact of the matter is that is was hardly lewd at all. All anyone could see was cloth covering what appeared to be a penis in either an erect or partially erect state. That is completely open to interpretation.

Then what triggered his confession were photos of him being unclothed from the waste up, exposing a rather impressive upper chest for a man his age. What's wrong with that?

Now as for his admission that he carried on long distance conversations with younger women over a period of several years, what again is the big deal? It doesn't appear that he actually met any of the women he contacted and there is no evidence whatsoever that anyone was complaining about a thing.

Enough already. The media had their little circus yesterday and it's over. It's out there. Let's move on. Congressmen and Senators have done far worse in their lives with less fanfare as a result of it. As the man said. He did nothing illegal. He's not resigning.

Personally I have only one question. Does anyone know the particular brand of boxers that he was wearing? I'd like to have some of those. They looked mighty comfy.

June 7, 2011 at 4:28 a.m.
alprova said...

Following the procession of this entire debacle, Representative Weiner totally screwed up by claiming the mis-released photo that sparked all of this was released by a hacker. I watched Fox News to get the other side of all of this.

Andrew Breitbart was accused initially as being the source of the leak to the press and as the "hacker" in question, which he denies and I believe him 100%. This one is not of his doing. He has photos in his possession, including an X-rated one of the Representative, but has thus far refused to release and says he will never release it. He expressed on Hannity's show last night that he felt compassion for Representative Weiner's circumstance at the moment and he has no desire to make it any worse for him. Of course, Hannity is calling for his resignation.

Here's the thing; If we were talking about someone who was a Conservative or a Republican, the heat would not be turned up under him, especially by Hannity. This would not be a story at all being discussed on his show and Breitbart would not be a factor in it at all either.

The short snippet on Hannity' ads, that advertised that the woman vetted by ABC News, whom Hannity is slated to interview on Tuesday has already admitted that she is no "victim" in any of this. She was a willing participant.

The best thing that Anthony Weiner can do is to never so much as acknowledge or answer another question about any of this. His news conference yesterday went about a half hour longer than it should have. He kept giving them more and more and more. He should have admitted the wrong he did and exited the room immediately. I heard one woman repeatedly accuse him of carrying on with "women who were young enough to be his daughters." He never gave it any attention, but geez.

It might be a good idea to close his Twitter account. Who reads those things anyway? I've lived just fine without a means to read Twitters firsthand for many years now. I do have a Facebook account however.

Back to business Congressman Weiner. Ignore the shouts, cast your votes, and the heck with the those who are determined to derail you. They'll shut up as soon as something better comes along, and that shouldn't take long to happen. You're human and some deep. deep flirting is about as bad a crime as you have committed. Your accusers have probably done worse. I know I haven't lived a completely sin free life myself. So I'd be the last to judge anything you have done.

Now, let he who is without sin, cast that first stone. I know there are those who think they are pure and without faults who are gonna judge him. Let's see who you are.

June 7, 2011 at 5:02 a.m.
rolando said...

"IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO BE STUPID"

Which is a very good thing for you, blackwater, since you are the one who doesn't know who Paul Revere warned.

Hint#1: He did indeed warn the British not to attack armed and alerted Americans. Read, as Paul Harvey said, "The Rest Of The Story". Revere even wrote about what he did and who he warned about what.

Hint#2: Longfellow was a poet, not an historian.

But we will no doubt hear the lie for the next year.

Any boat camper/RV-er knows what black water is...most appropriate login in this case I might add.

June 7, 2011 at 5:24 a.m.
fairmon said...

Who realy gives a tweet if Weiner gets his weiner roasted well done? The Play Boy center fold wanna be posing and sending the pictures to young women he wants to impress is not the issue. His political skills at creating a diversion and in essence lying about it to buy time hoping it would go away or some other news event would occupy the media's attention is a typical political strategy and something for his constituents to judge at the next election.

No one with an ego like Weiner is going to resign and give up his position of power and prestige. The republicans can't say much with their members topless act resulting in his resignation although he didn't have to. I don't recall the name or party of the member looking for a litte gay action in the airport restroom.

There are many examples that show how corrupt and compromised congress is. It is no mystery why lobbyist are so effective. There is no telling what kind of leverage they have on some key members of both parties. The ethics committee can't and won't do much as illustrated in Wrangle's failure to pay 2 million dollars income tax or Water's inapproprite attempt to influence TARP money. Their agenda and objective is to keep a lid on things in D.C. and avoid any outside investigation and publicity about what goes on there.

Is it time for term limits and elimination of the liberal pensions?

June 7, 2011 at 6:29 a.m.
hambone said...

Just like I always say.

99.9% of the crap that happens to a man in this world is self inflicted.

This rest is the weather.

Mr weiner fits this perfect.

June 7, 2011 at 6:43 a.m.
EaTn said...

Is anyone out there keeping score? Mark one up on the left side of the scoreboard. Why do we keep anticipating brilliant solutions from that bunch of sleazy, greedy Washington morons that we spent millions in getting them elected?.

June 7, 2011 at 6:51 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

good, timely cartoon....balances nicely with the one bennett did about gingrich and his hypocracy.

balance...nice to see

"enough already"....boy, you can't wait for this to go away, can you, alprova? what a double standard....you know damn well if it were a republican you'd never let this go.. we are all human and we all falter, but all of us do not minimize it, wear it like a badge of honor and act as if it's no "big deal"...it does go to his character..just like it did for clinton, gingrich, edwards, that jackass democrat congressman in new york who sexaully harrassed male on his staff,....or eliot spitzer, craig..or whoever else

it does matter when someone in a position of authority or responsibility behaves immorally or unethically....corruption does matter. no one is perfect, but they should be held to a higher standard...and they should know better. to think anyone in weiner's position would think that they could get away with that or not have it get out, speaks to their stupidity and arrog- ance......he was probably thinking, bill clinton got away with it, so why can't i? i understand he's has some conncection with clinton....there you go......great example.

alprova....to say it doesn't matter because he never actually met the women,..tells me bad character is acceptable to you as long he has the "correct" political philosophy. it's not acceptable...democrat or republican.....

he should resign..as clinton should've...and anyone else like them.....gingrich trying to take the lead on family values with his past record of cheating on his wives is the height of arrogance.... to think he could even attempt to run on that platform tells me he can't be trusted.

great post, rolando.....palin had it right. blackwater is doing what leftists do best, repeat lies until they're taken as fact.

June 7, 2011 at 7:13 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

it does matter what he actually did....the behavior or act itself........and it matters also that he lied about it and tried to cover it up...... to say what he did doesn't matter, but that he lied about it does, or matters more........makes no sense to me....it's illogical. if it needs to be covered up and lied about, then the act or behavior itself must be bad.

not only was clinton wrong for lying about he did, what he did, the act itself was wrong on many levels...

same with nixon....not only was his attempt to cover it up/lies wrong, the act itself was wrong. it was under his watch.

weiner needs to resign......

June 7, 2011 at 7:52 a.m.
mymy said...

From the Democratic Playbook 101:

"Never miss an opportunity to adopt and use double standards. That’s powerful tool to use against our enemies. Hold them accountable to a different standard than we practice, and you will be rewarded by your emotion-driven voter base who will never notice the difference."

It may backfire this time, but who knows. Rangle got a bye and then re-elected. Enough said re the voters of their districts! There is a chance that redistricting could leave Weener without a district. If he does not resign, we can only hope.

June 7, 2011 at 8:19 a.m.
twharr said...

Rolando, where do I begin, your narcissistic/imperialistic/flip-flip/Kim-Jong-Il/fuzzy math points of view. See, you shouldn't be here, in this domain, debating with intellectuals. I could easily break down you dumb ass post, line by line, but felt dumbing the history down of Paul Revere would make you look even dumber than Sarah Palin. Stop using Wikipedia as your research hub. As we, the intelligent bunch, know, it's a public forum that can be easily manipulated and "dumbed" down to fit your flip-flop points of view. Again, I have to give props to Sea and L4F for their non-flip-flop ways, however, I have zero respect for you and your, how can I say, "bi-partisan/band-wagon" rhetoric. Good day lad!

June 7, 2011 at 8:22 a.m.
limric said...

My Turn

So. It turns out the girthers were right all along. You have to admit, his denials were less believable than OJ's and John Edwards'.

Just once I want to see something like this happen and have the guy and his wife show up at the press conference and admit their swingers and this sort of thing is their bag. Maybe he’ll now say the press conference was photo shopped. Oh I know - he can say, "This wasn't meant to be taken as a factual statement"? Those republicans are good for something after all.

For perspective, at least he's not a self-loathing Christian gay Republican soliciting sex in an airport bathroom stalls ... that's way ickier. But funnier.

The one Democrat with any spine, and he effing self-destructs. What a douche bag. Other than he's a lying sack of crap, like most politicians, there's no reason for him to resign. BUT. It would be nice if there was a rule that said if we catch you, you must pack your pork and head back to Mayberry.

June 7, 2011 at 8:22 a.m.
twharr said...

My my, Mymy, did you get that from Hannity or Beck? I assume you have Skoals in the mouth along with a bottle of Mountain Dew to wash it down with. I guess the south was right - right? You neo-cons humor me. Your third-world ideology is depressing, but if I were uneducated like you I'd probably post such satire.

June 7, 2011 at 8:30 a.m.
Momus said...

@ Rolando:  Paul Revere was sent for by Dr. Joseph Warren to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were marching to arrest them. He was arrested by a British patrol (along with two others) on his way to Concord.  He was not warning the British. For more info you can visit: paulreverehouse.org

  • History major, University of Tennessee Chattanooga.
June 7, 2011 at 8:34 a.m.
chet123 said...

Democrats will kick him to the curve.....He's cooked and done!..to my republican friend...dont celebrate too much...you have your own scandles that you look the other way on.....so clean your own house up

June 7, 2011 at 8:42 a.m.
LibDem said...

When Republicans do this, I'm outraged and want a resignation. When it's a Democrat, I think it's just a boy thing to be forgiven. I'm a Democrat. I'm partisan. Get over it.

June 7, 2011 at 8:54 a.m.
mymy said...

I love watching the left "intellectuals" (?) with no common sense get their panties in a twist trying to defend the indefensible.

Here's another commandment from the Democratic Playbook 101:

"Anytime you find someone supporting the Constitution and traditional American values, call them “extremists” and belittle their intelligence with name-calling. These people are obstacles to our overthrow of the American system and must be marginalized."

June 7, 2011 at 9:03 a.m.
twharr said...

@ Mymy, I guess you're depressed that Beck is being canceled.

June 7, 2011 at 9:08 a.m.
potcat said...

`` He obviously wanted to show someone his big hard on. He obviously thought it was sexy to himself or someone else. If he had panned up and got a shot of that ugly mug of his, or to hear him talk would have been a dealbreaker, no thanks, UGG.

`` Alprova..I can attest to that particular brand of underware. My Hubby wears them. i had to get him out of briefs, he likes them, Calvin Klien is the best.I wear white mens boxers in the Summer to sleep in,hubby likes, shoutout Girls! A Man has to wear clean undies!!!

~`` Bigger is not always better, thats a myth about Women, A smaller, average size, makes a guy work a little Harder.

~`` This post might seem a bit crude, but that was the subject, Wieners-Weiner.

`~~

June 7, 2011 at 9:12 a.m.
bigbearzzz said...

Yeah for all those wanting to throw down on the dems today because of a dudes flaw, remember......we have Palin.....enough said. Every time that woman opens her mouth it reminds me of how much I DONT want her running for office.

June 7, 2011 at 9:34 a.m.
Rivieravol said...

No one has mentioned Wienies criticism of Jewish women's lack of a certain sexual skill, aka as a Lewinsky.

June 7, 2011 at 9:45 a.m.
limric said...

Libertarians4Freedom said...“Oh dear. (sniffle) This is a huge victory for Andrew Breitbart and the blogosphere. (sobbing) I am so proud he has exposed Weiner.” (Sob – sniffle )

As happy as you are, I’m sure you’ll be attending the pathological liar, race-baiter, propagandist, and rabidly partisan dirty-tricksters newest 80’s themed gay dance party tomorrow at Chucks II.
"We're going to have a big ol' gay party," he said, to celebrate Weiner Wednesday. Breitbart says gays and Republicans love to show their junk just as much, or more, than Democrats do. Therefore, we’re throwing an 80's-themed gay party to whip out a new era.

Ah, so this is what it means to be a Libertarian… Fabulous.

June 7, 2011 at 9:49 a.m.
canarysong said...

L4F,

"...I wish he would release the more explicit picture."

--- Aww, it's OK...don't be shy. If you want to see more 'weiner', just go to gaytube, justusboys, or hungdaddy (I did a quick google search for you).

June 7, 2011 at 9:58 a.m.
mymy said...

You lefties sound like you come from California the land of granola: take out the nuts and fruits and all you have left is flakes or illegals.

June 7, 2011 at 10:07 a.m.
hambone said...

Thank you FrancisTrollMonkey for your 2 posts without bashing OBAMA!

June 7, 2011 at 10:08 a.m.
moonpie said...

What a tool.

June 7, 2011 at 10:18 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Blackwater48 said: “Not sure that's as stupid as not knowing who Paul Revere warned or where the 'shot heard round the world' was fired.”

Indeed, Blackwater48. It’s times like this that I think we would be better off to randomly select our representatives by zip code - or maybe a lottery among registered voters. Of course, it wouldn’t totally eliminate the “stupidity” problem, but I suspect it might increase our odds of getting smarter and more effective representation in the long run.

June 7, 2011 at 10:24 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

it's early yet, hambreath..very early..plenty of time to bring up obama.

in fact.....speaking of weenies...i wish obama would concentrate on his job like he did on those two chilli dogs he jammed down his throat the other day..and fries...what concentration ....wow.. it seems the simpler the task the better off he is.....maybe he could be a professional food taster.

so that 's two weenie episodes in one week for the democrat party...two nasty images stuck in the pulic's mind......yuck

June 7, 2011 at 10:50 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

in honor of obama's tremendous performance in attacking those chilli dogs, and anthony weiner's day in the sun, ..or monitor light......let's all sing the oscar meyer weiner song.....but adapted to honor democrat weenie week.....ready...everyone...

oh i wish i was anthony weiner...that is what i'd truly like to be...cause if i were anthony weiner.. everyone online would be in love with me.......

June 7, 2011 at 11:08 a.m.
canarysong said...

L4F wrote,

"He's obviously a self-hating Jew, his own wife is a Muslim."

--- OMG..... You are ignorant beyond words......

June 7, 2011 at 11:12 a.m.
canarysong said...

L4F,

Look, you pea-brained moron....

You know nothing whatsoever about the thoughts of Jews, or even the thoughts of normal, intelligent, people who don't automatically hate everyone who is different from themselves.

June 7, 2011 at 11:37 a.m.
limric said...

Making fun of gays? Moi? Au contraire mon ami. I was making fun of Y-O-U - and Weeener - and Breitbart, using gays as a foil. After all, you’re the one that wants to see more explicit photos of a Hebrew National hot dog. Are you gay? Ebn El Sharmoota!, now I’m anti Semitic. Ta'ase li tova !

Todays forum subject is about the stupidest thing anyone even remotely in the public eye could ever do. It should be full of hilarity and one-liners but nooo - we get cranky rantings from....wait a minute. Is turn about supposed to be fair play? OH CRAP – Never mind.

June 7, 2011 at 11:38 a.m.
potcat said...

`` Libber,, Do you think being a size Zero, should keep a Husband from cheating. Man you have bought into the media hype ( (Can Have It ALL), Good sex, Respect, if you are a skinny weenie.

~` "In the REAL WORLD" Healthy is Sexy, Skeleltal or Fat is a turn off. Normal, Healthy and someone that knows who their sexuality and are true to themselves are sexy, knowone likes a cheater, liar, thats the part i don't get , why do they have to be such Liars about it.

June 7, 2011 at 11:39 a.m.
limric said...

C'mon Canarysong. L4F's last post was pure...umm...I don't know what exactly, but if you read it a few times you'll start laughing.

"He's obviously a self-hating Jew. Muslims hate Jews, it's in the Koran, they're supposed to hate Jews. So why would Weiner marry a Muslim unless he was self-hating himself?"

Dang, thats priceless.

June 7, 2011 at 11:44 a.m.
alprova said...

Rolando wrote: "Hint#1: He did indeed warn the British not to attack armed and alerted Americans. Read, as Paul Harvey said, "The Rest Of The Story". Revere even wrote about what he did and who he warned about what."

Leave it to you to believe anything tht Sarah Palin proclaims. Apparently, there are no limits to the amount of American history that tea-partiers are willing to rewrite for whatever reason under the Sun that there may exist for doing so.

You're as ill informed as she is. The only people "warned" of anything by Paul Revere were Americans and of the fact that the British regulars intended to disarm households as they passed by to arrest Samuel Adams and John Hancock.

It's a very simple story, one that has been told year after year, and leave it to the most ignorant woman on the face of the Earth to muck it up and have her minions defend her for it.

Even Fox News correspondent Chris Wallace knew it and he faced her with the truth. She is holding on to her ignorance like she seems to always do when she goofs. For Pete's sake, she was in Boston.

She claimed later that she was hit with a "Gotcha question." The question asked was "What are you going to take away from your visit up here?" And she went into her ignorant diatribe.

Here, Click here to go to CNN for the video of the moment in question and the resulting aftermath. They document it well.

Rolando, you're defending her ignorance with your own.

June 7, 2011 at 11:51 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Limric said: “For perspective, at least he's not a self-loathing Christian gay Republican soliciting sex in an airport bathroom stalls ... that's way ickier. But funnier.

To date, I agree the Senator with the “wide stance” was probably the funniest and most pathetic, but I think the all time creep award should go to that Senator from Florida who was emailing and stalking all of those young congressional pages. Everything about that situation was creepy. Foley’s colleagues knew all about him, but stood by and did nothing. They even let him serve as chairman of a congressional committee that targeted sexual predators - talk about a creepy scenario. As for the cornered rat award, I’d say Newt and Clinton will have to share this one – Edwards being a close runner-up, of course.

June 7, 2011 at 11:52 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

good point about clarence thomas, L4F....any black man who is a conservative or in the republican party is viewed by democrats as an uncle tom. clarence thomas, thomas sowell, walter williams, herman cain...and probably tim scott and allan west now....certaily j.c. watts...will always be kept at arms length by the liberal media because they don't know how to handle a black man who is not a democrat.....they're afraid they'll be viewed as racist. i suggest to you lefties to look at the content of a man's character rather than the color of his skin........

let's illustrate:

obama is a black-american...so is herman cain....(i'll hyphenate for you dems because that's how you prefer it.)............i completely disagree with obama's ideology and philosophy...i'm more in line with herman cain's.......i'd vote for herman cain..i'd rather chew on broken glass than cast a vote for obama........i t hink obama's a jackass who has damaged this economy nearly beyond repair..i think herman cain is a self-made man who respects the constitution and in free enterpirse......he knows economics and business.......herman cain knows "feets" is not the plural of feet...apparently obama never came across that at harvard, columbia and the university of chicago....

yet i'm racist to you libs because i'm not supporting the "correct" black-american.....i guess herman cain doesn't count because he's not really black if he's a conservative or a republican.

June 7, 2011 at 11:55 a.m.

I love it when libs obsess on Sarahcuda... as if she matters. Weiner matters. Geithner matters. Rangle, Frank, Clinton, and Dodd... they matter.

Focus people. The politicians will come after you if you lie or cheat.

June 7, 2011 at 12:12 p.m.
Livn4life said...

WOW, I am astonished at all the "open-minded" people on here who are suddenly in attack mode when a fellow lefter gets caught in the act and is called to accountability. Just let anyone who does this from the other side claim he or she is not resigning and fireworks fly. As for Clay the Drawboy, one out of about fifty on this side, is not balance at all. Problem in society; there is no shame. If there were, many would not do the utterly ridiculous things they do and especially would not pretend it is nothing when they are caught. If voters enjoy supporting liars, that's their prerogative. To me it insults the intelligence of the Hillbilly Mountain Dew drinkers across this nation as well as the arrogant Intellectuals who by golly just seem to know it all! But thanks Clay for one anyway.

June 7, 2011 at 12:45 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

see how you libs do it......blackwater.......you must really have palin on your mind..always...you bring up palin in this weiner scandal?.....desperate to change the subject, are we? ..sorry, won't work.

obviously..;weiner couldn't handle her.....nor could you........

it's isn't just stupid what weiner did, stupid. it's immoral and unethical.....and sleazy......is this the kind of person we need in office..demcorat or republican? no, dummy......as soon as bennett makes an attempt to be evenhanded you soil your boxers.......

grow up.

June 7, 2011 at 12:58 p.m.
alprova said...

The Salt Water Primate Humanoid wrote: "i guess herman cain doesn't count because he's not really black if he's a conservative or a republican."

Herman Cain doesn't count as outside of the city of Atlanta, he is an unknown quantity, that is unless you count his talk show on WSB, which no one who is not white, and outside of Atlanta, listens too in any great numbers.

June 7, 2011 at 1:05 p.m.
potcat said...

~`~ Who the f*** is herman cain?

June 7, 2011 at 1:29 p.m.
mymy said...

"Leave it to you to believe anything tht Sarah Palin proclaims. Apparently, there are no limits to the amount of American history that tea-partiers are willing to rewrite for whatever reason under the Sun that there may exist for doing so."

You should tune into one of the lefts favors targets at GBTV coming soon in order to reach a broader audience vs. preaching to the same choir which is already informed. Time to move on in order to inform a larger audience. Like it or not many things he predicted would happen HAVE! One interesting program will be Beck University to teach our history as it really happened not as the progressives have hijacked and changed it to fit their ideology.

You are a hoot people keep it up.

http://www.gbtv.com/shows/

June 7, 2011 at 1:31 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

who cares about his talk show...i never heard it either. i'm going by his campaign and by what he stands for. by that logic no one should run for president unless they're already well known. the media won't cover him because they're scared of a black man who can communicate and who is a republican. they won't give him coverage. he clearly out performened the other candidates last month on stage. obviously that was national.

and pawlenty and huntsman are well known outside of minnesota and utah? i don't think so.. by that logic no governors should run because they're only known in those states....

no....cain is being given a raw deal..not just by the media, but by the establisment, country club republicans.........you won't see any pieces on him pm cbs, nbc or abc that might make him more of natnional name....if the republican party wanted to they could prop him up.....

June 7, 2011 at 1:32 p.m.
mymy said...

Alprova: Your wrong. Check interview for yourseles folks-mid way through the intervew with Chris Wallace. http://video.foxnews.com/v/979109544001http://video.foxnews.com/v/979109544001

June 7, 2011 at 1:34 p.m.
alprova said...

What EXACTLY am I wrong about MyMy? Your link is not found and most of America wouldn't trust ANYTHING uttered over the air on Fox News.

Sarah Palin is a dolt on this latest goof and so are you if you believe otherwise.

Ah, you double posted the link. Wrong interview. Watch the one I posted. Chris Wallace called her on her obvious goof.

June 7, 2011 at 1:50 p.m.
ITguy said...

Rolando,

It is a truly sad day in America when conservatives would rather re-write the history of our revolution than to admit that one of their darlings is an idiot. This is what scares the beejesus out of educated, thinking people in this country.

If you will just admit that she is a moron and move on, you will be much happier and you may actually learn the truth some day.

As far as Weiner goes, he is also an idiot. There must be something in the water in DC that turns men into teenagers.

June 7, 2011 at 1:51 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

harp3339 said... "Who realy gives a tweet if Weiner gets his weiner roasted well done?"

Amen! Although I applaud Clay for showing that he can make fun of his own side this cartoon is not funny and there is no real point. Men in power for some reason have a hard time exercising self-control in this area. That was true thousands of years before twitter and it will be thousands of years after twitter.

The only interesting part of this story is that moral creep allows weiner to think he can keep his Congressional seat after publicly displaying his poor judgment, lack of self-control and willingness to lie to serve his self-interest as necessary.

It is also interesting that Pelosi is not demanding that he step down but instead is actively working to help shelter weiner and others involved from questions from the press.

Love that transparency!

June 7, 2011 at 2:02 p.m.
canarysong said...

Itguy wrote,

"As far as Weiner goes, he is also an idiot. There must be something in the water in DC that turns men into teenagers."

--- Yes, he is an idiot. This is an example of what happens when an otherwise smart man's 'turgid member' prevents the proper flow of blood to his brain. Incredibly stupid....

BTW, that "something in the water" is success, power, and influence - powerful boosters to the male ego and powerfully attractive to women (and that attraction has a evolutionary basis - it can be hard to overcome our biology, sometimes).

June 7, 2011 at 2:06 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

ITguy said... "There must be something in the water in DC that turns men into teenagers"

Teenagers, or self-absorbed megalomaniacs. I agree with you whole heartedly.

Now ask yourself, are these mentally twisted individuals to be trusted with managing any aspect of your life or the economy?

That is what I do not get about progressives. They know at an intellectual level that politicians are not to be trusted, but then they want to turn around and trust nearly every aspect of their life to them.

Go figure!

June 7, 2011 at 2:08 p.m.
alprova said...

MyMy, I was wrong in saying that you posted the wrong interview. I simply could not wade through 25 minutes of her crap to find one minute in it. The CNN video documented that exchange completely.

Her ya go all you Sarah Palin apologizers:

Click on this to see the man's words himself and to learn the truth. Palin is a certifiable and a repeated, confirmed moron.

Remember, all people are known by the company they keep and by those whom they defend. There are simply some things that can never be defended, but that doesn't stop everyone, as we see in this very forum.

June 7, 2011 at 2:08 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "Palin is a certifiable and repeated confirmed idiot."

Why do you worry about Palin so much? We have a certifiable and repeatedly confirmed idiot Marxist in the Whitehouse. Does that concern you at all?

June 7, 2011 at 2:17 p.m.
Momus said...

Of all the post above, the undisputed quote of the day is from L4F: "I am so proud he has exposed Weiner, I wish he would release the more explicit pictures."

June 7, 2011 at 2:29 p.m.
limric said...

Momus,

I second that, L4F gets the undisputed quote of the day prize.

You have to admit. "He's obviously a self-hating Jew. Muslims hate Jews, it's in the Koran, they're supposed to hate Jews. So why would Weiner marry a Muslim unless he was self-hating himself?" Rates a close second.
I liken this quote to riding a motorcycle around in the wall of death at the county fair.

June 7, 2011 at 3:01 p.m.
rolando said...

Momus -- I will let you duke it out with the historians from Boston U or wherever...they are mjy sources and are the real thing, not just someone who studied history as his major.

You might glance at Revere's book for his comments concerning what he did...written twenty-odd years after the fact. You could always claim his memory undoubtedly failed him and he couldn't remember such a very minor occurrence in his uneventful, hum-drum life [sarc=OFF].

Yes, Revere was captured by the Brits and he warned them of the arming and readiness of the Americans and advised them not to attack them. They considered this and released him -- no reason not to -- but without his horse. They even noted the bells ringing and random gunshots but went ahead anyway...which shows just how badly they [again] underestimated armed "peasants", serfs. and assorted freemen.

If the crap going on in DC keeps up, hopefully they will witness it firsthand.

But what do I know? According to the chief twerper [or is that twitterer] here, I shouldn't even be posting here because there are so many intulectuls [sic] here.

June 7, 2011 at 3:04 p.m.
rolando said...

Momus -- I will let you duke it out with the historians from Boston U or wherever...they are mjy sources and are the real thing, not just someone who studied history as his major.

You might glance at Revere's book for his comments concerning what he did...written twenty-odd years after the fact. You could always claim his memory undoubtedly failed him and he couldn't remember such a very minor occurrence in his uneventful, hum-drum life [sarc=OFF].

Yes, Revere was captured by the Brits [never said he wasn't] and he warned them of the arming and readiness of the Americans and advised them not to attack. They considered this and released him -- no reason not to -- but without his horse. They even noted the bells ringing and random gunshots but went ahead anyway...which shows just how badly they [again] underestimated armed "peasants", serfs. and assorted freemen.

If the crap going on in DC keeps up, hopefully they will witness it firsthand.

But what do I know? According to the chief twerper [or is that twitterer] here, I shouldn't even be posting here because there are so many intuh-lect-chuls [sic] having discussions.

June 7, 2011 at 3:06 p.m.
rolando said...

Thanks for the kind words, SeaMonkey.

You do quite well for yourself, I must say. Very telling points you make...you can tell by the number of idiot leftist you thoroughly PO.

June 7, 2011 at 3:08 p.m.
limric said...

Y'know Rolando, I may be a pompous ass (moniker compliments of Sea monkey), but I heartily agree with your statement: "If the crap going on in DC keeps up, hopefully they will witness it firsthand." It ain't just conservatives and the tea party that are edging towards insurrection.

Uh oh. I'll bet that set off alarms at the 'pfftt' DHS.

June 7, 2011 at 3:19 p.m.
rolando said...

You just went on Big Sis's watch list, limric. Hope you don't fly much. Get ready for the rubber glove treatment if you do.

And THAT is a sad comment on our nation's state of affairs...

I am readying a new non-inflationary, non-depreciating form of currency...ammo. Or maybe its an old one.

June 7, 2011 at 3:30 p.m.
limric said...

I've been saving my brass for a long time. Maybe Clay will do another about the TSA or DHS. If you think I rant now, you ain't seen nothing.

June 7, 2011 at 4:06 p.m.
canarysong said...

L4F wrote,

"I admit that "self-hating himself" was redundant and the consequence of typing fast and being in a hurry. However, the difference between you and me is that I debate the SUBSTANCE and you debate the STYLE."

--- It's the "substance" that everyone is mocking you for, you moronic twit!

June 7, 2011 at 4:14 p.m.
limric said...

L4F- My substance is embedded in my style. It just takes depth to identify, and intelligence to understand it. Try as ye may Libertarus Minimus, it alludes thee.

Y'never noticed that sometimes I can use 50 feather weight words to say something obvious and simplistic, or pound knuckleheads down like John Henry swinging a hammer to rebut idiocy...have ye.

For now though, it's off to warm my heart with Tequila, a Camel non filter, maybe some of the oib supoib and a big fat steak. I shant be back till daybreak Lucy. Back to the highway - which is already in progress.

I do however like your writing. You and Canarysong are such beasts.

June 7, 2011 at 4:26 p.m.
canarysong said...

Limric wrote (to L4F),

"Try as ye may Libertarus Minimus, it alludes thee."

--- There is much that "alludes" our so-called libertarian, like the idea that anyone might be able to see another person as an individual and judge them based on their own merits. L4F can never see beyond skin color, ethnicity, religious background, or political party. Laughable, yes. But more than anything, sad.

June 7, 2011 at 4:44 p.m.
canarysong said...

Limric,

I certainly hope that you were chuckling as you put me in the same sentence with L4F. Make sure that you drink enough tequila to numb you, you'll need it when I kick your backside for that! ;-)

June 7, 2011 at 4:50 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

sorry...alprova....but no matter what you say about palin it can never top obama's use of the word "feets" as plural for feet..."their feets to the fire"......my gosh....are you kidding me?

mr. 57 states...is no freakin' genius...

watch an interview with obama when he's actually challenged by a reporter, put on the spot and asked a tough question.......he gets defensive, angry and tries to talk over the interviewers.. he actually looks offended and glares......lost without a teleprompter...the dull look of trapped animal.....

June 7, 2011 at 5:28 p.m.
ibshame said...

Weiner was stupid to allow this to happen to him. He's not the first politician to do something this stupid and he won't be the last. As for Sarah Palin's attempt to re-write history, she is stupid and ignorant. No other way to put it. She appeals to those who(for whatever reason) feel she's like them. She is not now nor will she ever be PRESIDENTIAL material. As for being scared she will run in 2012, I say Bring it on. I hope she does get the nomination. I have no doubt she will carry Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, Texas and South Carolina. Fortunately, she won't carry the other states so it won't be a Nixon vs McGovern or Reagan vs Mondale smack down but it will definitely be a wipeout for Obama and Biden.

June 7, 2011 at 5:31 p.m.
rolando said...

Ah, yes. As I said early on, we will have the lie with us forever. Much like the other non-quote about seeing Russia from the front porch...or something that was never said.

Leftist simply cannot speak truth where Palin is involved. They simply cannot. Not even in 400 or more word posts, they cannot.

Amazing that so many of them actually believe the lies.,,perhaps that is a prerequisite...stupid things like Revere warning the Brits who captured him, saying "The British are coming! The British are coming!"

That's like Col Travis telling Gen Santa Ana, "The Mexicans are coming! The Mexicans are coming!" Obviously, Revere and Travis were a whole lot smarter than the leftist crew here who believe just that.

Bet they call them "feets" too, SeaMonkey, and just know there are 57 states. But what can be expected of intuhlekchuals [sic]? LOL

June 7, 2011 at 6:35 p.m.
rolando said...

ibashame -- Obozo has proven over and over again that he still isn't presidential material. He is a confused little boy in search of a clue.

I especially loved his "I'm Irish!" declaration. That must have really endeared him to the Irish.

That was done much, much better than he -- and without a teleprompter -- some 50 years ago in a city named Berlin with the words, "Ich bin eine Berliner!"

Obozo, you are no John Kennedy...Diving Ted, maybe...but not John or even Bobby.

June 7, 2011 at 6:43 p.m.
alprova said...

The Salt Water Primative Humanoid wrote: "sorry...alprova....but no matter what you say about palin it can never top obama's use of the word "feets" as plural for feet..."their feets to the fire"......my gosh....are you kidding me?"

You're kidding yourself. Obama never said such a thing and I challenge you to prove that he did.

"mr. 57 states...is no freakin' genius..."

As I've posted to you before, Snopes.com rebutted that one a long time ago.

Click here to learn the facts surrounding that one.

June 7, 2011 at 6:47 p.m.
alprova said...

Rolando wrote: "Leftist simply cannot speak truth where Palin is involved."

When video so eloquently catches the moment in question, there's nothing to lie about. Her words speak to the level of her own ignorance.

I don't know what your excuse is. Abject stupidity I suppose.

If you want to believe that Paul Revere warned the British regulars to a thing, more power to you. You're not going to find a CREDIBLE source that will support you, and that's the bottom line. You care not about credibility and that you have demonstrated repeatedly in this forum.

You have none and you never will have any credibility. You squandered all of yours more than a year ago.You and the Salt Water Primitive Humanoid are in the same boat, and you both love it, and each other I suppose.

June 7, 2011 at 6:59 p.m.
mymy said...

alpo: sorry, thought you were so smart you would know to move the icon to the mid-section of interview to hear the topic in discussion.

June 7, 2011 at 7:07 p.m.
inthemiddle said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

Snopes didn't watch this video then.

June 7, 2011 at 7:12 p.m.
inthemiddle said...

And the constitution was written "20 centuries ago"

They all do it. Right or left but there seems to be very short memories when its the party of choice, but when its the opposition the memory becomes a steel trap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4&NR=1

June 7, 2011 at 7:17 p.m.
rick1 said...

Listen to Robert Allison, a professor and historian at Suffolk University, tell the NPR host that Palin basically got it right.

http://www.npr.org/2011/06/06/137011636/how-accurate-were-palins-comments-on-paul-revere#

June 7, 2011 at 7:19 p.m.
sd said...

Verbal gaffs do not make a person an idiot. Everyone makes mistakes and gets tongue-tied. Rambling incoherently when you're put on the spot doesn't necessarily make you an idiot, either. But making crap up on the spur of the moment and insisting it is fact DOES make you an idiot.

I have no idea why people are even bothering to defend the Palin Paul Revere thing. In the clip it's obvious she was caught off guard and just started making crap up. She always sticks her foot in it because instead of giving a short answer she feels compelled to display her ignorance by saying whatever she thinks will sound good to her base. Then it turns out it isn't factual and her critics take her to the plinking range. Rinse, repeat.

June 7, 2011 at 7:21 p.m.
rick1 said...

It is being reported Weiner sent emails to former X-rated performer Ginger Lee – to whom he’d previously acknowledged sending innocuous messages via Twitter – coaching her to deny that they had been communicating, reported TMZ, which obtained the messages and says the two had exchanged “scores.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56395.html

It is time for Weiner to go.

June 7, 2011 at 7:25 p.m.
mymy said...

Lord, it's time for a break. The problems are much bigger than beating up on Sarah. She's having a good time and laughing all the way.

As far a Weiner is concerned, he is a typical male: God gave them a penis and a brain but only enough blood for one to function at a time. Most ment wear their brains below the belt. Some are so stupid they get caught in time.

June 7, 2011 at 7:35 p.m.
alprova said...

inthe middle said: "Snopes didn't watch this video then."

Never wrote that he didn't say it. Snopes explains in detail why he said it.

What?You've never in your pathetic life ever misspoke or made an error while speaking.

Do you really think that President Obama does not know that there are 50 states in this country? Goodness Gracious.

June 7, 2011 at 7:36 p.m.
rolando said...

alpo --

Here's still another history professor who so aptly tells us where your head [still and forever] is:

Boston University history professor Brendan McConville said, “Basically when Paul Revere was stopped by the British, he did say to them, ‘Look, there is a mobilization going on that you’ll be confronting,’ and the British are aware as they’re marching down the countryside, they hear church bells ringing — she was right about that — and warning shots being fired. That’s accurate.”

Short and succinct takes the day...

June 7, 2011 at 7:46 p.m.
alprova said...

My My wrote: "alpo: sorry, thought you were so smart you would know to move the icon to the mid-section of interview to hear the topic in discussion."

Look you jerk, it wasn't in the middle and it was buried about one third of the way in that 25 minutes of horse hockey coming from that bimbette.

The point being that the exact same exchange was ALREADY imbedded in the clip that I posted. You acted as if there was something different in your clip, and there wasn't.

I have no idea what the purpose of you posting what you did and what you claim I was wrong about. CNN captured it all. Do you have any idea what you claim I was incorrect about? Chris Wallace called her on her obvious untruth and she stupidly stuck by it and added more utter crap to it.

And I don't care how many more Palin apologists come crawling out of the woodwork. The facts are what they are and no one is going to get away with rewriting history, at least not on this one. And if you believe the bimbette, then you're just as deluded as she is.

June 7, 2011 at 7:47 p.m.
dude_abides said...

"not only was clinton wrong for lying about he did, what he did, the act itself was wrong on many levels...

same with nixon....not only was his attempt to cover it up/lies wrong, the act itself was wrong. it was under his watch." ---SeaMonkey 7:52a.m.

Have you really revised history in your mind enough to equate Clinton's infidelity with the biggest scandal in our country's existence? The scandal that put "gate" into our national lexicon? Nice try, but nothing approaches Nixon. Nothing.

June 7, 2011 at 7:53 p.m.
alprova said...

Rick1 wrote: "Listen to Robert Allison, a professor and historian at Suffolk University, tell the NPR host that Palin basically got it right."

All this proves is that there exists a differing view by a Massachusetts historian. I would rather believe the words of the man himself, as previously posted, who made it clear that he desired no encounters with the British Regulars, and who spent the bulk of his time avoiding them at all costs.

The man did not spend his time ringing bells and warning them that the Americans were armed, and any assertion thereof is ludicrous.

June 7, 2011 at 7:54 p.m.
rolando said...

alpo --

Someone as "clean and articulate" as Obozo is touted to be [provided he has his constant companion and dependent tax deduction teleprompter], does not make those kinds of mistakes at his age. He was visibly searching his head for the number. He did everything but scratch it...

Reminded me of Slick Willie's hesitation when he said, "I never had sex with that....that woman." He obviously couldn't remember which woman he was talking about, Monica, the harassment lady, or the unfortunate grope-ee he grabbed in the hallway after the recent death of her husband.

Gotta say one thing though, you lefty Democrats sure know how to go bad in a big way. Weiner, Clinton, Kennedy [pick one], Edwards, Frank...wow. Whatshisface tapping his foot in a men's room isn't even in the same league as your guys.

June 7, 2011 at 7:58 p.m.
rolando said...

Nothing approaches Nixon, huh, dude? Yet he wasn't impeached...he had the decency to resign first.

How about your side, hm-m-m? Nary a resignation one...only an impeachment.

June 7, 2011 at 8:02 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Nothing compares to Watergate. Decency to resign...come on.

June 7, 2011 at 8:12 p.m.
alprova said...

Rolando wrote: "Short and succinct takes the day..."

Rolando, you quote one one word written prior to the first week in June, 2011, and not uttered by some historian that is aligned with a Massachusetts school this same week, and I'll consider it.

It's pure conjecture what, if anything Paul Revere said to his captors. No mention was made of such conversations until this week, when Sarah Palin attempted to rewrite the entire affair.

Palin pals are all over the place, and as such it's not hard to imagine that they are crawling out of the woodwork to take her side with anything and everything to attempt to change history to fit what comes from her mouth.

Most of us are a bit smarter than that. A historian or two suddenly in the past couple of days who think they know what Paul Revere said and did does not make anything a fact. Get real.

June 7, 2011 at 8:14 p.m.
rolando said...

"I would rather believe the words of the man himself, as previously posted, who made it clear that he desired no encounters with the British Regulars, and who spent the bulk of his time avoiding them at all costs."

What, alpo, you now claim Revere didn't want to be captured? Of course he didn't, you nitwit. But he was captured and he warned the Brits not to proceed with their mission because he did not want to become involved in a fight with them.

So #1 -- he did warn the Brits not to continue since the Americans were ready.

So #2 -- bells were ringing and guns were being fired during their march.

Obviously, since the Brits heard them during the march and Revere was under detention, it wasn't Revere who did the ringing/shooting.

I notice you dropped your earlier bogus claim that Palin lied in her statement. At least two university historian/professors in Boston independently stated that Palin was basically correct...at least on the Democrat charge that she flat out lied about the warning.

So #3 -- Palin was basically correct in here contention and was merely unclear who did the ringing/shooting...a rather minor detail since the ringing/shooting DID occur.

June 7, 2011 at 8:19 p.m.
rolando said...

alpo, I fall back on Revere's own words in his own book written 20ish years after the fact. Find it and read it.

But I doubt you would believe anything contrary to your already formed opinion...nor do I care overly much.

Interesting that you accept as fact what you call pure conjecture as to who did what to who and when...yet you challenge anyone else who dares to contradict you... Things that make you go, hm-m-m.

June 7, 2011 at 8:24 p.m.
rolando said...

And it is the Progress Democrats who have made a bogus federal case out of the misstatement, alpo. You [and they] do that a lot.

June 7, 2011 at 8:27 p.m.
alprova said...

Rolando wrote: "Whatshisface tapping his foot in a men's room isn't even in the same league as your guys."

I'm amazed that you typed that with a straight face. It's amazing what some people will defend. You think Republican Larry Craig was a decent guy I guess. What do you do when someone taps their foot in a stall next to yours? Inquiring minds would like to know. Maybe it's better that you don't answer that question. That's your business.

For the record. None of the above are "my guys." I have no idea what that exactly is supposed to mean anyway.

Rolando it's a shame that I have to keep doing this, but if you are of the opinion that President Obama did not know how many states there are in our union, then you truly are as stupid as Sarah Palin repeatedly proves herself to be.

The man had been up for most of two days. It was loud in the general vicinity around him, and the man was tired. I'll bet you never misspoke when asked a question under similar conditions. I know I sure have, many times. To even suggest that he would have a teleprompter in a situation like that is moronic. I guess you don't even know what they look like or how they are used.

Who cares what you and the Salt Water Primate Hemorrhoid think is true? You're both as dumb as dirt and without an ounce of credibility between the both of you.

You both need to go tap dancing in the nearest public restroom. It'll be obvious what you're trying to achieve.

Just don't forget to brush your teeth in the morning.

June 7, 2011 at 8:34 p.m.
rolando said...

Nothing compares, dude? Really? Obozo's unconstitutional seizure of unprecedented power is not comparable? How about his refusal to follow the constitutional requirement to defend our borders from invasion? Or his refusal to prosecute threats of violence at our polling places? Or the damage he is doing and will continue to do to our country, our economy, our security, our international standing, etc., etc., etc., to addaminfinitum.

If we had a decent Senate, we would impeach this one, too. Only this time throw the bum out on the street.

June 7, 2011 at 8:34 p.m.
alprova said...

Rolando wrote: "And it is the Progress Democrats who have made a bogus federal case out of the misstatement, alpo."

You have no basis whatsoever to determine the political leanings of those who criticized Mrs. Palin. No one said much at all until Chris Wallace faced her down with the error on national television -- Fox News, no less, and what did she do? She dug her heels into the concrete and stuck to her story, stupidly.

"You [and they] do that a lot."

I make no bones about the fact that Mrs. Palin is her own worst enemy and who causes all her own grief, and that I get a great deal of enjoyment at her expense.

Why? Because that Bimbo and her minions think she is qualified to run a country. She's not qualified to operate a dishwasher. And the funniest part of all of this is watching people like yourself defending her idiocy time and again. It's better than watching a reality show.

June 7, 2011 at 8:41 p.m.
rolando said...

Nowhere at all did I defend Craig or call him "decent". alpo. Quite the opposite...I merely put him in a lower category of perversion that the others. His offense isn't even in the same league as the others, disgusting as it was.

You sly innuendo gets you nowhere, alpo. There is Google to answer that question, after all...although past experience with you on this forum indicates you well knew the meaning of teabagger and teabagging without resorting to google. Go ahead, pretend you don't know. Perhaps it is better that way. We all understand...you are still in the closet, right?

Ball's in your court... No, a tennis ball.

June 7, 2011 at 8:43 p.m.
rolando said...

Hey, alpo, you give good spin to Obozo's lack of real life knowledge.

Dumb as dirt, huh? Smart enough to call you out for your lies on this forum...more than once, actually. So fall back on your self-proclaimed "superiority" and look down your nose at what you must call the hoi polloi, alpo, just as you have always done. You do it out of self defense and by rote.

June 7, 2011 at 8:47 p.m.
rolando said...

You grow tiresome, as always, alpo, so I will give you the last word.

June 7, 2011 at 8:49 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Nothing. Not even Iran-Contra.
addaminfinitum...is that one of your patented (sic) words that cannot be assailed in any way, or is that what you meant to post, like goddaminfinitum? Or something?

June 7, 2011 at 8:49 p.m.
rolando said...

You got it, dude. Only certain words -- my choice -- get the [sic] treatment. But I neither hold nor desire a copyright on the phrase...feel free.

June 7, 2011 at 8:51 p.m.
alprova said...

"You sly innuendo gets you nowhere, alpo. There is Google to answer that question, after all...although past experience with you on this forum indicates you well knew the meaning of teabagger and teabagging without resorting to google."

Now you're going off the deep end. I have no idea what teabagging or teabaggers has to do with the anything we are discussing today. I can't help the fact that you cannot express yourself in clear terms. Your post appeared as if you were defending Larry Craig. Type what you mean in the future and you can avoid unpleasantness in the future.

"Go ahead, pretend you don't know. Perhaps it is better that way. We all understand...you are still in the closet, right?"

What are you, 12 years old? Grow up.

June 7, 2011 at 8:51 p.m.
alprova said...

Rolando wrote: " Smart enough to call you out for your lies on this forum...more than once, actually."

The day that you call me out for lying in this forum, is the day that I leave it for good. You have NEVER ONCE proven me to be lying in here, and you never will.

Now if you think you have, post it and link to it. All of our exchanges are documented in the archives. Post it. Just one.

Now, on the other hand, I have no less than a dozen times proven your dishonesty to a perfect "T." Shall I post those for your reading enjoyment?

June 7, 2011 at 9 p.m.
rick1 said...

Alpo said this about Obama making the comment about 57 states: The man had been up for most of two days. It was loud in the general vicinity around him, and the man was tired.

So what is are your excuses for these comments Obama has made: In March, 2008 on the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday march in Selma, Ala., Obama claimed his parents united as a direct result of the civil rights movement: “There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.” Problem is Obama was born four years eariler.

"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009

"What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith..." --in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying "your Christian faith," which Obama quickly clarified http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg...

"In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." --on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people

June 7, 2011 at 9:11 p.m.
alprova said...

Rolando wrote: "I notice you dropped your earlier bogus claim that Palin lied in her statement. At least two university historian/professors in Boston independently stated that Palin was basically correct...at least on the Democrat charge that she flat out lied about the warning."

You Sir will find no mention by myself, calling her a liar. I never once accused her of lying. I accused her of being totally ignorant. Two historians, regardless of their claim today, does not undue 240 years of historical writings on the matter to fit Sarah Palin's sudden take on the situation, and it never will.

"So #3 -- Palin was basically correct in here contention and was merely unclear who did the ringing/shooting...a rather minor detail since the ringing/shooting DID occur."

Who cares about ringing or shooting? The issue at hand is whether or not Paul Revere warned the British, during his famous ride, that they would never take their guns away from Americans or not. There is nothing and I do mean nothing, to suggest that Paul Revere so much as warned the British Regulars about a thing.

He did warn many Americans and Samuel Adams and John Hancock of the intentions of the British Regulars, as has been documented for two and a quarter eons without so much as an argument about it.

Sarah Palin opens her mouth and all of a sudden, history is rewritten. She's full of cow patties, and so are you if you defend it in the slightest. One dolt like yourself attempted to rewrite the ride of Paul Revere on Wikipedia yesterday. It didn't work and it's not going to in here either.

Believe what you want. The citizens in this country not enamored by Sarah Palin are laughing at you and her.

June 7, 2011 at 9:17 p.m.
fairmon said...

A lot of discussion about Weiner getting his weenie roast by the press. Some did things much worse. The biggest concern should be the lying regardless of the event triggering the adverse publicity. The ability to tell a convincing lie is how they got elected in the first place. They can look in the camera, hold a press conference, appear at town hall meetings and tell the most convincing lie about anything and convince people thay are so very concerned about our country, that is why they want to serve. What a crock!

These people are elected and trusted to handle the countries business in a responsible manner. The gullibility of voters is evident. Strong party loyalty and the attempt to minimize the scandals of one party versus the other is proof the gullibility and unwavering support based on the fairy tale people want to hear and believe will continue.

June 7, 2011 at 9:27 p.m.
alprova said...

Rick1, regarding the Selma reference, obviously the man was off by a few years. Does this make him evil, or was he being a typical politician? I think the latter is the case.

Regarding the "Austrian" goof, who in the heck knows the proper language term for every country? Personally, I know that German is spoken in Austria, but then I've been there before. He may not have ever been there before. It was a goof.

Regarding the "Muslim faith" goof, it was a misstatement and easily understandable because he had heard himself accused of being a Muslim many times. A goof is a goof and it will always be a goof.

Regarding the "ten thousand people killed" goof. He misspoke again. Someone may have actually given him that number. You're surely not of the opinion that he intentionally misrepresented the number of dead in such an incident, are you?

Look at all the obove comparisons made. When he was faced with the facts, he retracted the goofs, plain and simple, and corrected his misstatements.

Comparing the above to what Sarah Palin does when she is caught making a goof, is not comparable, especially in this latest one. She dug her heels in and is STILL sticking to her goofy words, like a complete moron.

People are going to make goofs. It only becomes a problem when they refuse to admit to them. Obama has admitted to all of his. Has Sarah Palin EVER admitted to ONE of hers?

No she has not. She claims that the media always asks her "gotcha questions" whenever she goofs, and in almost every case, she's been dishonest about that. She doggone sure was being dishonest on this latest goof.

June 7, 2011 at 9:43 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Palin just looks crazy. It's like endorphins start flowing when she's out of her depth, and it just feels too good to stop. She's then instantly recalcitrant, and the "victim" is once again born. Can't you see the crazy? It's on her like a van Gogh parka.

June 7, 2011 at 10:14 p.m.
inthemiddle said...

alaprova

"You're kidding yourself. Obama never said such a thing and I challenge you to prove that he did"

"Never wrote that he didn't say it. Snopes explains in detail why he said it."

Al- I never commented on anything you said what you represent or your political views. I did answer your challenge which was that he never said the quote and I just linked to a video that said he did. For whatever the reasoning is behind the statement it is on the internet for all to see.

I have never commented or critiqued your comments but you were very quick to call me "pathetic". For one you know nothing of me whether I agree or disagree with you only that I called you out on your challenge.

I don't care for any of the politicians personally. Right or Left, progressive or conservative. I especially don't care for someone so quick to judge me when it was your question to this forum for someone to prove you otherwise. You should be more careful when you believe you are more intelligent than the rest of those posting or that I may have some personal agenda against you.

What is pathetic is someone who like Arnold, Weiner or insert your favorite villain, chooses to lie and cover up their indiscretions, but will be more than willing to point out someone else's faults. I personally don't care whose weiner or vagina goes where and does whatever they want.

I am more than sure I have misspoken on several, hundreds, maybe thousands of times. I hope that I have been big enough to admit when I have been wrong and made the necessary apologies. Every one of these candidates have and will misspeak repeatedly throughout this campaign. It will be comical to watch either side try to bury or spin the comments. I enjoy the entertainment it will provide to me in the mean time, but then again I am just pathetic anyway.

June 7, 2011 at 10:38 p.m.
canarysong said...

L4F wrote (5:28pm post),

"It's not about seeing people as individuals, it's not about not judging, it's not about being PC." .... "We all judge, we all hate, we all fear."

--- I couldn't care less about your definition of a libertarian. I DO see people as individuals.... and the bigotry, intolerance, ignorance, and hate that I see you display here regularly is, frankly, very ugly. It may be human nature to judge, even if we wish we didn't quite so much. But we are not all like you. There are many people who do NOT hate other groups of people, but give each individual an opportunity to stand on their own merit. Same goes for fear. That doesn't mean that we never experience those feelings, but automatically feeling them for someone simply because of their race, ethnicity, or religious affiliation is another thing altogether.

Calling someone, whom you don't even know, a self-hater because they married someone of another religious/ethnic background is beyond "not being PC"; it is arrogantly ignorant. What makes you think that you have the insight or the right to judge what may be in the heart and mind of someone else, much less to pass judgement on how they 'should' think because of the ethnic group that they happen to belong to? (one which you, by the way, don't have a clue about)

The way you see the world is very different from what most people experience; I am grateful that you are an aberration.

June 7, 2011 at 10:48 p.m.
rick1 said...

alprova, wow it is amazing that you know excatly what happened in each one of these incidents. I thought Obama was the smartest president we ever had and yet he is off on his birthday by several years. I have to hand it to you those are some creative excuses you came up with. You should be a spokesperson for Obama.

June 7, 2011 at 10:49 p.m.
Momus said...

Rolando wrote: " Palin was basically correct in here contention..." The fact you see nothing wrong with making that statement is the bigger issue.

June 7, 2011 at 11:19 p.m.
alprova said...

inthemiddle wrote: " I did answer your challenge which was that he never said the quote and I just linked to a video that said he did."

Again, and I hope you read this, he certainly uttered the '57 state' goof, but one would have to be off their meds to believe for one second that it was anything but a goof and that the President actually believed that there were more than 50 states.

Now, regardless of your intentions at the time, to dump a link into this forums and to go on to suggest that Snopes.com "must not have watched this video" when the fact that the same video is posted on the page that addresses the verbal goof, is indeed pathetic.

What it tells me is that you did not follow the link to the page I posted. You are of some opinion, although not expressed clearly, that the President must be too dumb to know how many states there are in our union. That's rather pathetic too.

And had Sarah Palin made such a goof, I would defend her as well. She's certainly dumb, but not that dumb.

Now you can act all offended if you want, but you made no attempt to disarm or to disclaim your lack of criticism along with your post, so therefore it can only be viewed as a challenge of some sort, so don't be too offended.

If anyone, including yourself, honestly believes that Barack Obama believes that there are more than 50 states, then they are indeed pathetic. And that's all I've got to say about that.

As to what the President did NOT say ever, was any sentence in which the word "Feets" was used and I again challenge anyone to prove that he did.

The Salt Water Primate Hemorrhoid is lying through his pathetic fingers.

June 8, 2011 at 5:20 a.m.
inthemiddle said...

Al-

First of all it was meant to be a joke, since everyone on here seemed to be getting all worked up over who said what. I read your post and accepted your challenge which was to prove to you that he did indeed say what you said he didn't. I believe that I was successful in my attempt to say that he did utter those words.

So what you are saying is that one goof is better than another goof. I really do not care what was said, or shown. I believe all of these people make mistakes, just like you and I do. What is humorous though is the extent that people will go to in order to justify, prove, disprove or spin the side they like or dislike. Mrs. Palin did make the same sort of goof and forgive me if I misread your posts or misinterpreted them, but I don't see you defending her as you said you would do in such a case.

My opinion would be that the whole discussion would center around integrity, and not semantics of language or brain farts. The point that these people we elect to represent us seem to lie, cheat and steal and all they have to do is say I'm sorry and we should all forget about it, is the pathetic thing. My opinion would be that this isn't the only questionable thing he has done, but this is what he was caught doing. The fact that he lied and tried to blame others sounds like something my kids like to do. It only takes a little prodding to get the truth to come out eventually, just as in this case. As for Mrs. Palin, I would question her integrity also since yes she did quit in the middle of her term.

My opinion on the President has nothing at all to do with my post, only with yours. I would no more defend Sarah Palin than I would Mr. Obama. I don't wait around for a gotcha phrase and start shouting to the world "see I told you". I don't follow a party line and I don't fit into the nice little box that you may define yourself in.

June 8, 2011 at 6:46 a.m.

Rep. Weiner will not resign and will run for re-election. Hmmm. Maybe the shirtless Tweet was just his way of saying that he has the "fire in his belly/ripped abdomen," something Barbour and Huckabee clearly lacked.

On a serious note, I have yet to hear anyone make the following connection about incidents like the Weiner scandal. The fact that he will be easily re-elected and hailed by partisans, that the public will be ridiculed for thinking that this is a reflection of a public official's character, that some people believe that an official’s character or moral example to young people is even significant – these factors have a great deal to do with why Muslim nations (and many non-western nations) hate the West. Our failure (for fear of being called a hypocrite) to summon the nerve to express outrage is a serious matter. The fact that he is not the first and is not likely to be the last politician to disgrace his office and our country is no excuse for failing to call outrageous behavior outrageous (and not merely stupid and marginally relevant to public service).

As far as the mis-speaking and public gaffes by politicians, I think that most of them are forgivable. The more serious offenses involve inflating one’s resume for the sake of obtaining political power. Republicans seem to be doing it with regard to their military service (or lack of it). Bill and Hillary Clinton did it virtually every time they spoke about their qualifications to be president. I’ll have to give first place, though, to Tennessee’s own inventor of the internet, savior of the planet, and towering intellect Prince Albert Gore, Jr. (If you were to roll the egos of Obama, George W., both Clintons, and Gingrich into a giant rock, it would be but a satellite to that of the Planet Goranus.

June 8, 2011 at 8:50 a.m.

Canaryong, your June 7, 2011 at 10:48 p.m. post was terrific. Being a libertarian and being a defensive white southerner are not the same thing. Our Austrian forebears are rolling over in their graves about what passes for being a Libertarian these days. (CS, I still owe you a reply on your religion post from last week. I’ve been busy at work.)

June 8, 2011 at 8:51 a.m.
limric said...

L4F,

In answer to yesterday’s question, here’s a short list of ‘Conservative’ books in my collection:

The Burden of Bad Ideas (How Modern Intellectuals Misshape Our Society ) by Heather MacDonald. This is quite good.

A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (and Pathetic) Story of the Torrid Romance Between Barack Obama and the Mainstream Media, by Bernard Goldberg. Interesting idea – badly executed (see above)

The Secret Knowledge: On the Dismantling of American Culture, by David Mamet. Very good.

To Save America: Stopping Obama's Secular-Socialist Machine, by Newt Gingrich. BS – pure and simple.

Give war a Chance, by P.J. O’Rourke. I actually own most of his books. He’s great.

Next on the list may be: Demonic: How the Liberal Mob Is Endangering America, by (M)Ann Coulter, or Primetime Propaganda. The later has a compelling title.

June 8, 2011 at 10:26 a.m.
chet123 said...

Libertarian/seamonkey....hope your daughter/gran-daughter marry a black man......i've seen guys like you before....a man become that which he hates.....i will love to see your face LOL LOL LOL lOL

June 8, 2011 at 1:56 p.m.
chet123 said...

Libertarian is a republican in hiding LOL LOL LOL

June 8, 2011 at 1:58 p.m.
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