published Sunday, June 12th, 2011


about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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blackwater48 said...


This cartoon is in poor taste. it's difficult to imagine anything worse than associating the Congress of the United States of America with a house of ill repute. Good grief.

It's really naive comparing congressmen and prostitutes. Which one serves the public and which one screws the country?

Whores everywhere must be outraged, and justifiably so.

June 12, 2011 at 12:37 a.m.
moonpie said...

Cynics will question the Democratic leadership motivation for asking for his resignation, but it was still the right thing to do.

June 12, 2011 at 2:53 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

weiner the pervert will remain...rangal the crook is a bad boy, but he's here to stay.....and pelosi, well she wasn't called "madam" speaker for nothing......just ask all the fat cats in her district clutching those obama- care waivers and with pockets full of stimulus cash.

June 12, 2011 at 3:18 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

how hilarious...charley rangel showing his support for anthony weiner...a legitmate crook defending a's not just the "right thing to do"'s the obvious thing to do...the same with rangel. yet he reamains, as will weiner because when a democrat engages in immoral behavior or breaks the law, like rangel, he gets to stay, but when a republican does something similar he's gone. double standard.

if bill clinton would 've been a republican he would;ve been gone, same with rangel and weiner.

June 12, 2011 at 3:28 a.m.
anniebelle said...

Hey seadookey, when that diaper wearing, whore hopper David Vitter steps down from the Senate we'll discuss this -- NOT until - you flaming hypocrites. Vitter is not only a hypocrite he broke the law in D.C. and his home state of Louisiana with his prostitute visitations. Prostitution is UNLAWFUL in both. I thought it was totally rich that Vitter's wife stood there looking like a fool, oh, I guess she is. She's the one, with all piousness said, "If my husband did what Bill Clinton did, I would not stay like Hillary. ROFLMAO. And the repukes insisted on protecting Ensign until he finally resigned in disgrace. Speaking of perverts, I see that Mark Foley's out on the talk circuit again. You have to quit traveling under the assumption that everyone is as stupid as you are and we don't keep up with THE FACTS instead of fiction drummed up by one of your "Think Tanks".

June 12, 2011 at 6 a.m.
Yano said...

They are whores, every one of them, to the lobbyists who fund their campaigns and write our laws.

June 12, 2011 at 6:16 a.m.
sandyonsignal said...

Looks like the C Street roommates in drag. By day they are well-dressed men in pinstripe suits and by night they dress up. One thing is for certain, they are 100% for sale to the highest bidder.

This isn't a partisan issue, both Republicans and Democrats, it's a male issue. I can't recall a woman in Congress doing this kind of sexting or picking up prostitutes. If we want to clean up Congress, the men need to go. We will have peace and prosperity. Our children, the elderly, disabled and poor will be looked after and cared for; while, drones, bombers, tanks, and aircraft carriers will have to come back home.

June 12, 2011 at 7:14 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

aren't we touchy, anniebelle..when the shoe is on the other foot...and lot of times lately...

sorry, anniebelle..but corruption is plentiful in both parties....both....and right now it's democrats in the spotlight...

stupid, no, no anniebelle....stop being a hack and and look at your party honestly.....

and bill clinton has made quite a bit of money making speeches..even though he's treated women like pieces of meat....and what about barney frank and his prostitute boyfriend....come on... we can go back and forth like this all day.....corruption is rampant in washington..on both sides.. the difference is you lib democrats won't call your rascals the right thing..

democrat good and republican bad...just doesn't work anymore..especially after the last two years....

you need to grow a little.....your knight in shining armor, the democrat party, is as corrupt as the day is long.....grow up.

June 12, 2011 at 7:18 a.m.
fairmon said...

This 'toon is not appropriate! It should show well dressed "high dollar" prostitutes. Our congress members are not cheap. They will do whatever their paying "John" likes, even get a little kinky for the right price.

The whore said "my bad" and checked in to get treatment for lying, misleading and attempting to manipulate, How much more do the pimps expect? Surely the pimps remember those financing our bordello have memories about as long as that of a gnat and many of them think a little kink on the side is OK and will forgive and forget.

June 12, 2011 at 7:39 a.m.
woody said...

If and when you are willing to sell yourself to the highest bidder the name of your 'party' makes no difference. Loose morals..also nothing to do with 'party' affiliation. And if no female member of congress has been caught, as yet, doing anything wrong..I submit the 'operative words' here are "as yet."

"Personal responsibility" is what is missing here, and "Proffessional responsibility", is also lacking. Both of these are what separates the actual "whores" from those we elect.


June 12, 2011 at 8:04 a.m.
fairmon said...


The female members stay within the bordello. Pelosi may be the most active that hasn't strayed but has served as madam of the house and brought in more money than any other male or female congressional prostitute. Could it be we haven't elected a woman good looking enough to attract a prostitute for a little side action? Not being caught doesn't mean no participation. Female members may be smarter, they limit their prostituting to high dollar corporate and special interest donors.

You may be right. Enough women in office and they would want to be a mother to everybody and insist those working not only care for the needy, which is good, but divide any remaining income equally among every body. If somebody hits you or beats you up don't hit back, tell mama.

June 12, 2011 at 8:08 a.m.
Momus said...

They are all perves and whores! It has become a stigma on our gov't and our society. Just last week someone posted this:

"I am so proud he has exposed Weiner, I wish he would release the more explicit picture."


June 12, 2011 at 8:15 a.m.
sandyonsignal said...

Blackwater's comment is too rich: *It's really naive comparing congressmen and prostitutes. Which one serves the public and which one screws the country? Whores everywhere must be outraged, and justifiably so."

Yep, hookers don't deserve such disrespect.

June 12, 2011 at 8:27 a.m.
fairmon said...

High dollar prostitutes deserve more respect than this cartoon gives them. They admit they are screwing you for money and keep their end of the bargain. They don't promise you the money will be used in your best interest, to make sure you are provided for and protected from all threats or harm to justify taking more of your money.

Congress denies screwing you while in the act then confiscates against your will as much of your money as they want to in order to screw you some more.

June 12, 2011 at 8:51 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

sexual misconduct seems to be a strictly male pastime on capitol hill, ..but, as far as corruption goes....nancy pelosi is the epitome of the corrupt politician....she holds her own with the big corrupt as anyone gets....and probably as dumb, as well. she came in bragging about how her tenure would be the most ethical ever...bull****.......a literal crook, rangel, is still there. that's good leadership on her part. i guess it's one crook looking out for another.

June 12, 2011 at 8:53 a.m.
Momus said...

Wasserman Shultz just destroyed R. Priebus on Meet the Press!

June 12, 2011 at 9:11 a.m.
chet123 said...


June 12, 2011 at 9:19 a.m.
hambone said...

The defference between Congress and a real hooker is that a real hooker delivers what the public wants.

June 12, 2011 at 9:40 a.m.
chet123 said...


June 12, 2011 at 9:44 a.m.
Momus said...

We are witnessing "end of Rome decadence." Peggy Noonan, NYT.

June 12, 2011 at 10:09 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Newt will clear it all up for us like he did in '94. Oh, wait. Newt's team suddenly decided that he sucks! Woe is us.

June 12, 2011 at 10:17 a.m.
tderng said...

who's doing these cartoons? Its strange that there have been two or three recently that weren't a direct attack at the republican party.I wonder if Clay hasn't been Body Snatched!I'm not complaining,mind you,but I think that maybe I have entered the twilight zone here.Quite eerie and unsettling.That having been said...I agree with the cartoon(dam& that felt weird),congress has degenerated to a bunch of lobbyist loving,money grabbing whores.Voting for lobbyist concerns over the peoples concerns.This goes on,on BOTH sides of the isle.There isn't a nickles worth of difference between the parties when it comes down to actually taking care of America,neither seems to care what is in the best interest of the country as a whole.Both parties will sell this country out for money and/or votes.

June 12, 2011 at 10:31 a.m.
Momus said...

Lesliesmart - who " 'sext'[ed] underage girls."?

June 12, 2011 at 11:34 a.m.
tderng said...

lesliesmart said...If you're for single payer healthcare you can do whatever you want...even 'sext' underage girls.

the left always gets a pass. Very few repubs get a pass...

According to the young lady the texts she got were not sexual in nature.however even texting 17yo is just plain creepy.When someone starts down that path it usually leads to a very steep slide.If he had not been caught there is a real possibility he may have traveled down a road to actual criminal behavior.

June 12, 2011 at 11:39 a.m.
sage1 said...

First and Foremost, as a whole politicians of both parties are full of GREED and are CORRUPT beyone measure. They place themselves safely above and out of harms way of the laws they place upon us "common" folks. (Social Security, Medicare, Obamacare....etc.) They give themselves raises and perks far and above anything we will ever see.

They really don't give a whit about what we think....they just go ahead and DO....and sometimes in a most stupid way. Take for instance "We've got to pass this bill so we can see what's in it!"

Oh yeah.....that really shows an interest in the welfare of Americans.

June 12, 2011 at noon
blackwater48 said...


I think it's rich how the 'holier than thou' crowd rises up in anger and disdain every time a celebrity - politician, actor, athlete, preacher, whomever - is found to be guilty of being human.

No one is perfect. We are all flawed to one degree or another. Ask yourself if the indiscretion affected their job and/or hurt someone else.

Making mistakes is not endemic to one political party or one religion or one ethnic group.

Please can the fake outrage and stuff all that pomposity where the sun don't shine. Aren't we are all just too fascinated when somebody else gets caught stepping in crap.

People in glass houses, etc., etc.

June 12, 2011 at 12:15 p.m.
fairmon said...

This may be the perfect oxymoron; lol,lol,lol,lol,lol,lol, giggle, giggle.


June 12, 2011 at 12:19 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

chet, you were hoping to have an adult conversation? what's stopping you?

sorry momus...i saw that too..that's not what i saw.

debbie wasserman shultz..the women who accused the republican party of wanting to make illegal aliens illegal.....that's a smart one..

very true sage...."we've got to pass this bill so we can see what's in it"..may be the dumbest thing ever uttered by a politician....the scary t hing is she said it with a straight face...and bulging eyes of course.

dude, must be tough having a democrat in the spotlight like weiner, huh?

you dems have to face it...the culture of corruption is washington push that only one party owns it is dumb.

June 12, 2011 at 12:19 p.m.
fairmon said...

Weenie exposing Wiener signs up for rehab. No wonder his peers are throwing him under the bus. How dare him expose to the public rehab for lying, misleading and attempting to manipulate is available. The public may demand all members attend and those elected in the future attend before assuming office. Hello, they may even demand members of congress participate in follow up group.

I assume the turmoil is about lying and not two consenting adults sending each other sexy pictures and talking dirty to each other by email, texting or tweeting. Despicable behavior but not illegal.

His behavior certainly violates congress ethics policy but the ethics policy has not been strictly upheld in so long it is practically useless. The penalty for ethics violations is not very punitive, probably by design since the committee may be just as vulnerable and compromised as the member being investigated.

June 12, 2011 at 12:38 p.m.
carlB said...

Regardless of what we want to call, this country there will always be conflicts between the different groups of people who want control of this Republic for their own political and ideological agendas. Whether it is a religious group, capitalist, Socialist, progressive party, Independents, Libertarian and etc. This tends to cause the country's conditions to swing from one extreme condition to another when there should be a “narrow band” between the different extremes in place. Is it the lack of knowledge by the voters or is it the voters convinced by these different groups to vote them in as elected leaders of this Nation, thereby leading the country into crisis conditions as we are experiencing? It is hard for me to come up with a single name of what caused the country to be lead into all of these crisis issues/conditions that we now have to deal with. Having a Representative Republic with the Constitution of the United States as a guide does not guarantee, there will not be fraud or greediness occur or prevent the Nation from being lead in both directions from center, depending on who has been elected as leaders of the country, having their outside influences. Yes, it is proven by the facts that our Congress persons have been "bought" by lobbyist who work for the "special interest" who put their interest above what is best for this Republic.

Ben Franklin Was Correct: A Republic, If We Can Keep It By John Hoefle

June 12, 2011 at 12:39 p.m.
blackwater48 said...


...Still have the power to have the Country we want.

Too bad voter turnout is so abysmal.

...Still have the power to have the educational system we want.

Too bad voter turnout is so abysmal.

..Still have the power to make a better future for our children.

Too bad voter turnout is so abysmal.

If you don't like politicians, if you don't like policies, if you don't like the direction, just look in the mirror.

As a great American once said, 'Ask not what your Country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Country.'

And stop crying about it.

June 12, 2011 at 12:52 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

i wouldn't call this much of a republic anymore, it's some kind of a tyranny.

it's out of control..agencies and czars that don't have to answer to congress, a president who feels he doesn't need the approval of congress to take military action, and i'm not talking about bush.....our president wants to "transform" the constitution into a document that will be more about what the government can do to us rather than what it can't do.....bureaucrats, lobbyists, democrats, republicans, presidents who have one set of rules for them, and one for the rest of us. beaurocrats and congress get the best health coverage for life, and we're supposed to get some crappy ass obamacare. that is unless you get a waiver..but you have to kiss ass to do that......

is the government acting in the best interests of the people...hell no......subsidies need to go, yet both parties won't get rid of them. charley rangel is a crook and a tax cheat..yet he remains... he's still's not just the stupid asses in his district who voted him back, but the failure of a so-called "leader", nancy pelosi, to do her job and set and example. rangel should be in prison, the rest of us would.

June 12, 2011 at 12:56 p.m.
fairmon said...

Good post. In my ignorant opinion it is checks and balances as designed that causes the swings. However, the extreme swings may result from too few checks on the judicial branch where judges consider themselves an all knowing diety that uses personal opinions by which they make decisions. Congress has fallen victim to the root of all evil and the administration is drunk on power and prestige with a hunger for more power. Keeping the republic as designed and envisioned is a tremendous challenge.

June 12, 2011 at 12:57 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

We all know politicians are self-righteous whores who care more about themselves than the citizens (with few exceptions).

The Libertarian responds with the realization that you cannot trust the political class with any more than a very limited responsibility so it is easy to keep tabs on them.

The Left, stunningly, wants to continue to heap more and more responsibility on individuals we all know cannot be trusted.

Over the years progressives in both parties have been successful in giving the political class countless playgrounds to misbehave in. There is no way we citizens can keep up with it all and hold them accountable.

We wonder why the country is in the mess it is today?

June 12, 2011 at 1:12 p.m.
Clara said...

I hadn't caught up with what is happening with Weiner until today, but I ran across an article in the following in CSM that seems more balanced than what appears on this blog ...

June 12, 2011 at 1:15 p.m.
MTJohn said...

BRP - you can't trust the political class because you can't trust the electorate, either. No matter how you slice it, people - you and me, included - are selfish. And, not matter how you construct our government, it will best serve the selfish interests of those who pay the most to put people into office.

June 12, 2011 at 1:17 p.m.
blackwater48 said...


A tip of the hat, then, to the republican party, those who are more interested in doing the bidding of their corporate sponsors than listening to their constituents.

Check the poll numbers on social security and medicare, for instance. Even 70% of republicans say they like both programs exactly the way they are, yet the right wing nut jobs in the House continue to push for changes because their corporate overlords insist.

You have to admire people so corrupt they ignore the will of voters who can kick them out of office in order to serve a few fat cats that foot the campaign bills.

Yeah, yeah, sea cow, democrats have corporate campaign contributors, too, but I don't believe one single democrat is supporting medicare vouchers or Aetna presents: social security.

I doubt those facts will prevent another frothing, spittle driven rant, so step right up.

I need a good laugh.

June 12, 2011 at 1:17 p.m.
stanleyyelnats said...

Truth hurts.

People have to talk about something just to keep their voice boxes in working order so they'll have good voice boxes in case there's ever anything really meaningful to say.

Kurt Vonnegut

Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.

Mark Twain

Astonish the rest...................

June 12, 2011 at 1:29 p.m.
anniebelle said...

No, you are the one who said it and I quote "when a democrat engages in immoral behavior or illegal activity, he gets to stay, but when a republican does something similar he's gone. double standard." That is a straight up lie you idiot -- Vitter still sits in in high chair in the senate. Are you denying that fact?

June 12, 2011 at 2:18 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

no, sweet but misguided leftist......i stand by what i say....when it comes to sexual misconduct it's dems stay, republicans go. how many examples do i need to give of this. really, i don't have time. democrats get a free ride by the liberal media. sorry, but the culture of corruption label fits both parties...right now it's on weiner. maybe that's why you're irritable..or maybe there's another reason why, which i don't want to get into. when bennett came out with his cartoon blasting gingrich's hypocracy regarding his attempt to be the family values candidate, i thought it was very much appropriate. gingrich is a hypocrite. though i think bennett is a leftist tool, occassionaly he gets it right. you need to get off the democrat party good-republican party bad thing......they've both failed...on so many levels. i happen to think it's 60% democrat to 40% may think it's the reverse...but they both have let this country down.

June 12, 2011 at 2:46 p.m.
blackwater48 said...


For years I have attributed to Mark Twain the following quote:

"Always tell the truth. It will impress your friends and infuriate your enemies."

Unfortunately, I tried to google Twain, friends, etc., but couldn't find it. Anyone know if it really is a Mark Twain quote? Not that I often impress or infuriate anyone. Just wondering.

June 12, 2011 at 4:07 p.m.
AndrewLohr said...

7:14am wasn't the first thing women voters did elect Warren Harding?

June 12, 2011 at 4:11 p.m.
woody said...

Blackwater48..been meaning to send you a big "Tip of the Hat" for all your great posts today..oh well..better late than never.

This has been one of those 'toons' that could cause a man with a full head of hair to go bald or merely bring out the worst in others..then there's "The Monk". You know..the one who is so insistent that there are 'evil doers' on both sides of the aisle, and yet can't help but 'harp' on just a few..who just happen to be of a different 'party', 'mind-set', and, likely as not, species than him/or herself. (Heaven help me, but I was tempted to say itself..but I didn't.)

Oh well..another day..another comment..Woody

June 12, 2011 at 4:13 p.m.
AndrewLohr said...

1:17pm, 70% like Social Security and Medicare the way they are? They're BROKE. The way they are is not sustainable. The Republicans are offering improvements. Harry Reid's Senate hasn't passed a budget in two years. Our President is supposed to offer a Medicare plan 15 days after being officially told 45% of its cost is coming from general revenue instead of from Medicare taxes. He's been told and done nothing. Both are breaking the law, or at least the rules. Democrats are defending the problem against any kind of solution, eh? Shrink the government and there'll be less money for the harlots to chase. Jesus is libertarian, and not for sale (despite the best efforts of many.)

June 12, 2011 at 4:21 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

well, woody...once again you're way off base, you ancient liberal.....

there's nothing sadder than an old lefty who realizes his dreams of a marxist american state will never be realized in his lifetime.

too bad you wasted your vote on jackass like obama.

do i have to name all the "evil doers" on both sides to satisfy you?......there're plenty on both sides. i made my point. you just have a stick up your ass, like anniebelle, because right now weiner is on the hotseat. why don't you libs name them all...i'm sure your list will be extensive given that anyone who is a conservative is automatically on your bad guy list.

next week it could be a seems that you just can't stand the fact that corruption is a bipartisan disease.....and that the democrat party is nothing special.

why don't you stop being a party pooper and join the weiner roast...

by the way, i just heard there're a bunch of new photos of weiner...a few taken in the locker room of the gym on capitol hill, i think it was...enjoy

June 12, 2011 at 5:36 p.m.
fairmon said...

Anyone know where Wiener found a center that treats lying, misleading and attempting to manipulate? What is their success record of converting those with the disease to becoming open and honest even when it is uncomfortable? I can imagine him telling people in group he has an addiction to oral sex because he likes to talk about sex by any electronic media.

I can see why a runty looking crooked nose little twerp like him would want to retain a position of prestige. He probably couldn't get a decent date before being a congressmen. Poor fellow probably thinks those women are actually sexually attracted to his scrawny ass. Yep, he probably does need treatment. I assume his good tax payer provided health care insurance will pay for it.

Republicans are understandably quiet, they have had their share of perverts. If the country wasn't broke an elaborate study to see if voters elected people with a credibility defect or they became defective after exposure to the D.C. environment. I suspect the defect enabled them to be elected.

June 12, 2011 at 5:45 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

i am 100% correct in that the liberal media will do whatever they can to downplay democrat party misconduct and corruption. if rangel were a'd never hear the end of it...and clinton as well.

the liberal media will do anything they can as well to distract from a scandal like weiner's, as well.

this sick, bizarre and perverted obsession with sarah palin's emails is the perfect example.

the washington actually asking its readers to read her emails for them because there are so many? outrageous, assanine and moronic......

what do you libs hope to find? what is your end game? what do you want to ultimately happen to her?

sorry, it won't work.

i'm awarding you and anniebelle, woody..the weiner's weiner award of the day. it's a tie.... in honor of anthony weiner. i give it to the person(s) who best display the liberal mindset. which is characterized by lack of logic, lack of facts, being out of t ouch with reality, and an absense of common sense.

June 12, 2011 at 5:58 p.m.
fairmon said...


It is perfectly understandable why 70% like social security and medicare A,B & D as they are. A social security recipient averages receiving 3X their contribution. Medicare A,B&D have never come close to taking in as much as paid out with the current outflow around 2-3X revenue. At some point the social security ponzi scheme quits working. Medicare, a welfare system in disguise, contributes significantly to state and federal budget issues. A poll of those 50 and under contributing the max may be interesting and reveal what they think about the antique known as social security and medicare.

June 12, 2011 at 6:03 p.m.
rolando said...

Other than the switcheroo into the General Fund, harp, another problem with SS is -- as you pointed out -- more is taken out than is put in. But that is simply inflation.

Had the gov't invested the funds paid in instead of paying the lazy not to work, those [relatively] few dollars I paid would have grown to a million or so. Or so they always told us. That means the lousy $500/month I now draw would last a whole lot longer than I will [compound interest being what it is.]

So the problem is not how much is being paid out but how much the Gov't wasted. But you know that, I'm sure. The SS recipient is not to blame...the gov't made more than one promise.

June 12, 2011 at 7:26 p.m.
delmar said...

"harp3339 said... Anyone know where Wiener found a center that treats lying, misleading and attempting to manipulate?"

Yeah, I believe it is in D.C. at a house with the address-133 C-Street S.E.

June 12, 2011 at 7:55 p.m.
Clara said...

If I remember correctly, delmar, the house catered to Republican clientel. POO

June 12, 2011 at 8:09 p.m.
mymy said...

You should be watching a special by John Stossel on Fox: The Money Hold. A look at the national debt and the role the government has played in the crisis. It will be repeated at 11 pm. Watch or record.

June 12, 2011 at 8:25 p.m.
BobMKE said...

A whiskey class and a woman's ass will make a horses ass out of you. Now's the time to pass term limits.

June 12, 2011 at 8:54 p.m.
stanleyyelnats said...

seamonkey look in a mirror. there is something sadder than an "old lefty".

I'm guessing you will take your "sadness" to the grave..............

June 12, 2011 at 9:23 p.m.
moonpie said...

Can we all just celebrate that the good guys won tonight!!!!

June 13, 2011 at 12:15 a.m.
potcat said...

`~~ I notice one of the Lady's taking a break and reading the Newspapper. She is the one who reads the Newspapper Aloud, a serious pet peeve, she does have the other Lady's attention though.

June 13, 2011 at 6:18 a.m.
anniebelle said...

Ah, seadookey, you did not disappoint. Just like your repuke cohorts, you lie and you lie and you lie, and you stand by your lies. I didn't expect any truths to flow from your piehole.

June 13, 2011 at 7 a.m.
fairmon said...


Social security was actually established similar to a ponzi scheme. Those working would provide enough revenue to support recipients. The number working for each recipient was in the double digits. Congress has liberalized eligibility without making adequate adjustments to cover them. The number working per recipient is now just over five but will drop to three over the next 20-25 years at which point about 75% of current benefits can be paid. AARP acknowledges this is an accurate projection.

Allowing, actually requiring, people to invest in U.S. treasuries with their and the employers contribution not accessible until age 65 then buying an insured annual yield for life annuity would yield significantly more to the recipient. Unfortunately the government can't afford to transition to such an arrangement with the current commitment to those eligible and nearing eligibility.There is no fund and current and near eligible recipients would have to be paid from the general fund without any revenue coming in.

Most "fix it" proposals increase the eligibility age and includes means testing which means those with other income will receive reduced or no benefits depending on the amount of the other income. Another share the wealth disincentive program. An individual planning for their retirement and working and sacrificing to increase their income in their senior years are not likely to benefit from doing so.

Medicare is a nation bankrupting plan in the making with Ryan's proposal the only one attempting to address it. Either his plan or a major increase in premiums and taxes will be required to avoid an eventual catastrophic situation. State budgets are already reaching a point where they cannot meet their medicare/medicaid commitments and meet the legal requirement of a balanced budget.

June 13, 2011 at 7:34 a.m.
fairmon said...


The center you identified for treatment of lying, misleading and manipulation has a zero success rate.

June 13, 2011 at 7:38 a.m.

"Every government is a parliament of whores. The trouble is, in a democracy, the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. " - P. J. O'Rourke

June 13, 2011 at 7:40 a.m.
fairmon said...


I did see parts of the special by Stossel, The Money Hole. The piece about free bicycle helmets in a wealthy neighborhood was typical of government waste and extravagance. One woman said it wasn't tax money it was a federal grant, is that not revealing of people's understanding of the budget problems?

One of our local city council members said the sustainability position in local government wasn't a problem it was paid for by a federal grant. The only local cost was the cost to support the position. I'm not sure she understands who pays the federal taxes that funds grants. She didn't attempt to explain the ROI of the position. In my opinion our mayor and city council are economic idiots. Local progress is in spite of city leadership with some positive credit to the county commission.

June 13, 2011 at 7:48 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

no lies, anniebelle....corruption is rampant in both parties. the difference is you dems are in denial. those on here who usually vote republican have no problem calling out the republican party for it's ineptness, failures, corruption, hypocracy and misconduct. you libs won't do it. in fact, you minimize it and will even defend it. as a frequent republican voter, i have no problem saying the republican party has failed many times over to do the right thing for the people of this country. both parties are miserable failures and are probably too corrupt to really solve the tough issues like social security, medicare , our borders, illegal aliens...and all the other problems.

you're also a hyporcite anniebelle....expecting the republican party to clean house and get rid of bad apples...but you don't have the same standards for your party. sexual misconduct and corruption are not necessarily a reason to be dismissed by your party.

why don't you call out weiner, rangel or clinton? clinton and weiner have no respect for women. you feminits/democrats are remarkable condem males who are in positions of power who take advantage of women in the work place. you condem their lack of respect for women and that they take advantage of them, yet you give clinton a free ride for using his position to take advantage of subordinate.....massive hypocrites....

remember gary studds...the congressman who had sex with a 17 year old male page in the early 1980's? .he was reelected...yet, mark foley, made inapropriate sexual texts to males pages and he resigned..and rightly it should be.

your post doesn't make any sense, stanleyelnats.

June 13, 2011 at 7:55 a.m.

blackwater48 said... “HYPOCRITES - I think it's rich how the 'holier than thou' crowd rises up in anger and disdain every time a celebrity - politician, actor, athlete, preacher, whomever - is found to be guilty of being human. No one is perfect. We are all flawed to one degree or another. Ask yourself if the indiscretion affected their job and/or hurt someone else. Making mistakes is not endemic to one political party or one religion or one ethnic group. Please can the fake outrage and stuff all that pomposity where the sun don't shine. Aren't we are all just too fascinated when somebody else gets caught stepping in crap. People in glass houses, etc., etc.”

I have yet to hear anyone make the following connection about incidents like the Weiner scandal. The fact that he will be easily re-elected and hailed by partisans, that the public will be ridiculed for thinking that this is a reflection of a public official's character, that some people believe that an official’s character or moral example to young people is even significant – these factors have a great deal to do with why Muslim nations (and many non-western nations) hate the West. Our failure (for fear of being called a hypocrite) to summon the nerve to express outrage is a symptom of our shift from republican citizenship to spineless servility. The fact that he is not the first and is not likely to be the last politician to disgrace his office and our country is no excuse for failing to call outrageous behavior outrageous (and not merely stupid and marginally relevant to public service).

As Mark Shields remarked on the Weiner affair: “Well, the first lesson is that shame is dead, officially dead in American public life.”

June 13, 2011 at 8:10 a.m.
limric said...


The second P.J. O'Rourke quote is one of my all time favorites. Nothing could be more appropriate for this cartoon.

Nice choice.

June 13, 2011 at 8:11 a.m.
mymy said...

Harp: unbelievable how the left thinks, isn't it?

Did you see the part re Puerto Rico and Canada where cutting turned things around?

So many US citizen are so dumb and don't understand even simple economics. So, who would expect them to see the big picture. Look at the mess so many got themselves into by living beyond their means. Let the good times role. Well, the good times are over. This includes all not just one side of the isle. I feel no sympathy for them as I made many sacrifices not to go there and now being hurt by an incompetent government that is destroying this country.

Agree re our locals.

June 13, 2011 at 8:30 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

now obama wants to wine and dine wall street types at the white house in order to get them to invest in his hope and change again. what a whore obama is ...attacking them, but taking their money, then attacking them again..then sucking up to them like never's all so nauseating......

June 13, 2011 at 9:46 a.m.
Clara said...

And, Delmar, the site was an easy way to evade observation.

I think it was exposed as such about a year ago or a bit more.

Put in the address at Google and the information will come up.

June 13, 2011 at 9:56 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Blackwater48 was right: Why compare hardworking hookers to Congressmen? That's not being fair to the hookers, comparing them to the lying, cheating, backstabbing, thieves in government.

June 13, 2011 at 10:23 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

*whats_wrong_with_the_world said...

"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. " - P. J. O'Rourke*

This is a great quote. The reason the US has been as successful as it has is because our founders realized this. Too bad we have thrown pretty much all of the limitations on the federal government away. We've given them a liter of Jack, all the contents of the medicine cabinet and the keys to a Lamborghini on a rainy day, and they are holding nothing back.

June 13, 2011 at 10:57 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

exactly, bigridge. big government types, like obama, don't think it's big enough and needs less limitations. they don't like that our constitution limits what it can do to the people. those with weak moral character, like wiener, are drawn to an out of control government like flies to a cow pie. it's nothing more than a playground for them in which they can make themselves rich and give in to their hedonistic tendencies.

libs can make fun of the tea party people all they want, but they see our government for what it is, a big orgy of greed, hedonism and fraud....but both the democrat party and the republican party are incapable of doing anything about it because they like it.

June 13, 2011 at 11:31 a.m.
mymy said...

Obama's Economic Experiment Has Failed -- Time to Get Back to What Works Couple comments: “The reason there is no recovery is simple. Keynesian Economics is a farce. It exists only to give socialists a model to follow. It works right up to the point you ask the following question:

"Where does the money you inject into the economy come from?"

The answer comes from the economy (i.e. the taxpayers). In other words, you take it FROM the people and give it back TO the people. It's just a redistribution. Because no PRODUCT is created in the process, there can be no wealth creation. Without the creation of wealth, there IS NO GROWTH and NO RECOVERY. Simple as that.

The solution (summed up very well in the article)...stimulate business by:

  1. Reducing regulation.
  2. Decreasing corporate tax.
  3. Reducing the debt to lower future economic uncertainty and potential tax burdens to business going forward.

This isn't rocket science. It's REALITY based on REAL economic theory.”


“Balancing a budget is not liberal. It is the antithesis of Liberalism/Progressivism. All taxes are collected from the top half of income earners. The lower half pay nothing to the IRS. The lower half are the ones getting most of the financial assistance from the Federal Programs.

You cannot just keep taxing the top 50% and increase the benefits to the lower 50%. Eventually you tax the top 50% out of business. When there is no one left to increase taxes on, where do you go? No more tax increases as the budget must be balanced. How to do that? Simple, balance the budget by reducing spending dramatically and requiring all to pay at least a portion of their income to the IRS.”

June 13, 2011 at 11:55 a.m.
mymy said...

More Disgrace:

The Truth About the GM Bailout Did you hear that GM CEO thinks a $1 gas tax is needed. No wonder they were/are in trouble. He is sucking up to O’Liar-in-Chief, you think?

June 13, 2011 at 12:22 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

mymy...great contributions.

when logic and common sense are involved the less likely it is to be supported by the left.

liberalism promotes waste and fraud.

June 13, 2011 at 2:13 p.m.
bigbearzzz said...

blackwater, that sounds word..its mine. Some of my favorite Twain quotes:

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."

"...I never can think of Judas Iscariot without losing my temper. To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature, Congressman."

"The political and commercial morals of the United States are not merely food for laughter, they are an entire banquet."

"An honest man in politics shines more there than he would elsewhere."

June 13, 2011 at 2:16 p.m.
dude_abides said...

SeaMonkey: "what a whore obama is ..."

You treasonous pig. His speech today was the backdrop for my reading of your post. I bet his I.Q. is like twice as high as yours. No exaggeration.

June 13, 2011 at 2:17 p.m.
mymy said...

O’Liar in Chief: A Disgrace Obama Making Sales Pitch in North Carolina Today. Then he is on to Florida and Puerto Rico. With the desperate situation at hand all he seems to have time for is campaigning and playing golf. He is good at spending our green dollars though.

“Republicans are hammering the administration for choosing to highlight the accomplishments of lighting manufacturer Cree in Durham, N.C. Cree got nearly $30 million is subsidies from the president’s 2009 stimulus to encourage the manufacture of environmentally friendly LED (light emitting diode) bulbs and is a growing operation. But the company’s growth seems mostly to be happening in China, where more than 50 percent of the company’s workforce now resides. Republicans say Cree took money borrowed from China at the expense of American taxpayers to subsidize Chinese jobs. While Obama likes to highlight Americans who are operating in China, Cree may be a bridge too far for American (and North Carolinian) voters at a time of massive unemployment, a shaky domestic economy and a gathering debt crisis.”

June 13, 2011 at 2:35 p.m.
mymy said...

Another Disgrace: Congress to Hold Holder in Contempt? I thought Janet Reno was bad, but…….

June 13, 2011 at 2:45 p.m.
limric said...

While you retards are busy being distracted, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas appears to have "knowingly and willfully" filed falsified Financial Disclosure Forms which withheld disclosure of nearly $700,000 his wifey poo received from the right wing Heritage Foundation for the better part of the last 20 years. Only once it was pointed out publicly this year did Thomas bother to file "self-initiated amendments" to the forms he had signed just above the legal warning in bold and all caps which reads: "NOTE: ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO KNOWINGLY AND WILLFULLY FALSIFIES OR FAILS TO FILE THIS REPORT MAY BE SUBJECT TO CIVIL AND CRIMINAL SANCTIONS (5 U.S.C. app. § 104)"

It looks like Clarence Thomas and his wife Virginia Thomas may be been doing "Judicial Insider Trading."


The DoJ of course seems to be looking the other way, but there was one person trying to bring attention to this issue. Guess who?? - Rep. Anthony Weiner...

Y’all discuss it amongst yourselves.

June 13, 2011 at 3:46 p.m.
mymy said...

Already heard about that some time ago. How about all those Dems in the current administration. The Treasury Sec. and don't forget Rangle. Thomas has amended just like the "others" that have been caught.

Rangel writes the laws, Thomas reviews them.

Bingo. Chuck “makes law.” Yet, the far left loons think he should be held to a lower standard for some strange reason.

June 13, 2011 at 4:11 p.m.
alprova said...

Reading over today's contributions, leads me to ask the question, "Do any of the right wing political commentators have any original thoughts of their own? Clearly MyMy doesn't. Four posts have the words written or video of Fox News contributors.

And has there been one post by those on the right, that has offered one point about anything contained on this page, that has not been offered by that person repeatedly in here before?

No. It's "yada yada yada. Blah blah blah."

This thread may have 100 comments, but very little in the form original or interesting commentary.

All I'm seeing is one huge circle jerk and apparently, all of the usual suspects want to be in the middle of it.

June 13, 2011 at 4:42 p.m.
alprova said...

Hey Sea Monkey, it might be worth a little effort to understand the meaning of a word you are throwing around. I'm betting you live in a glass house as well.

What Representative Weiner has done is not perverted. He is not a pervert for flirting with women via the internet. By most people's standards, what he did was rather normal for a healthy, heterosexual male to be doing in the year 2011.

And let's be honest. To flirt with women younger than themselves is not that unusual at all. It goes on all over the world, in high numbers, and on a daily basis.

If the man were single in all respects, no one would bat an eye at what he did. Well, maybe a few self-righteous hypocrites would, but then what else would be new?

Of all the scandals that have occurred on both sides of the aisle, this one does not compare when applying the word "pervert" to it.

Most people are quick to judge and to throw those stones while living in a home made of pure sugar glass.

Go ahead and deny anything you want, but I know the nature of humans, and you're hardly without sin, and if the truth were known, you've very likely committed worse in terms of sin that you openly condemn in here frequently.

Let's not get holier than thou.

June 13, 2011 at 5 p.m.
mymy said...

Alpo: just waiting for you to catch up on some real news! Of course you are too brain washed to get it.

Society is broken and there is no shame today and there should be.

Weiner is sick, period and he's not the only one. Anybody that hangs on your "faux" comment is in my humble opinion.

June 13, 2011 at 5:12 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...'re just following the liberal're out to get thomas because he's a threat to all of you. a conservative black man. which is a crime to you guys. you just want him out of there when it comes time for obamacare to go to the supreme court. sorry, but you libs are busting a gut because his wife dares to have the view she does. want thomas to recuse himself...well, sorry..ain't going to happen...but, elena kagen and sonia sotomayor will have to recuse themselves....kagen was involved in obamacare.....see ya!!

i want everybody to read alprova's have got to be kidding me. i never said i'm without sin. he is a pervert...just because this country's full of perverts doesn't mean we should just accept what he did. my gosh...the moronic logic...nuts "pure sugar glass"......???

sorry, alprova...your attempt to legitimize his behavior is laughable.....your post is the perfect example of how you libs try and muddle things and make something that's black white into gray.

i know a pervert when i see one...

you sound just like every other lib, alprova

you libs are desperate to make this go away...forget is what it is.......a congressman standing in the lockeroom of a congressional gym on capitol hill taking a picture of himself in a towel in front of mirror with his hand on his weiner is ok with you?????

just because it may be common, doesn't make it not perverted and certainly not acceptable..

June 13, 2011 at 5:16 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

"holier than thou"...are you kidding me....?? believing he's a pervert is a holier than thou attitude?.....i'm sorry, but you must engage in the same kind of behavior to go to such lengths to defend that.

if that's not perverted...then nothng is. there's no shame anymore......look how far we've devolved in 235 years.....we're at the point that it's acceptable for a representative of the people to send pics of his weiner all over america......? ....why not have congressman yank out their weiners in front of school kids when they pass through the capitol on a tour?....why not have them display their weiners on the walls of their congressional offices to impress females?.....stupid...

and you libs laugh when people compare this country to the last days of rome.

June 13, 2011 at 5:25 p.m.
chet123 said...

Seamonkey...what is a conservative black man???? A black man who is a boot kisser for the RICH AND GREEDY!! LOL LOL LOL....What case can he make for the Family...the can dont have a family LOL LOL.....

June 13, 2011 at 5:41 p.m.
mymy said...

Chet: he is the man that has taken advanage of the opportunities this country has offered to improve his and his family's life unlike those that expect just a handout. He understands what works and what doesn't! Apparently not like you with your hand out for others hard earned dollars. I don't owe you a damn thing.

June 13, 2011 at 5:46 p.m.
chet123 said...

Seamonkey...see you are shooting that mouth off again....The democrats will take care of their own....

Let me remind you of your own republican party sex scandles..LOL LOL

(1)John Bolton: Republican us ambassador..guilty of forcing his wife to engage in group sex act...LOL LOL

(2)David Vitter: Involved with prostitution(now serving LA senator

(3)Mark Sanford: South Carolina Gov...vanish from his job...later it was learn he had a lover outside his marriage i argentina...he abandon is wife and 4 children

(4)George W. Bush:Accured of Raping Margie Schoedinger who later committed suicide...Bush also accured by Tammy Phillips of having an affair that last until 1999...Wife of Red Blount claim while AWOL from AIR NATIONAL GUARD at age 26..he was involve with their 14 yo daughter(amazing how stories can get kill when your father president and CIA director)

(5)Neil Bush: Divorce deposition admitted having sex with strange women while on Asian Business how was impregnated

(6)Helen Chenoweth: republican Congresswoman from Idaho...she call for bill clinton to step down because of sex was found out she had been sleeping with a married associate

(7)Mark Forley: Republicab 16 district...accsured of page boy...which h asked a 16yo boy about his genital

(8)Bill O'reilly: While conversating on phone with his female staffer he would talk dirty and mastubate...she made recording of it in her law suit

(9)Rush Limbaugh: caught with illegal sex enhancement drug while traveling to a topical island(like his women dark) LOL LOL

(10)Ensign: Sen Nev. having affair with his best friend wife(what a back will stab each other in the back)LOL LOL

(11)Stom Thurmond: Rape a 16yo black house keeper and impregnanted her..afterward went on to fight against civil right...(what nerves!!)

(12)Dr Laura Schlessinger: republican talk show host..peach family was found she had a affair with a married man...he later release nude picture of her showing everything..leaving nothing for the imagination LOL LOL

I have about 200 more republican sex sandles and the republican party say no evil, see no evil, hear no evil..when its their own LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

June 13, 2011 at 6:38 p.m.
chet123 said...

mymy...he is a product of what the democrat fought behold me how old fool like herman cain...reap the benifits many democrats fought for and that fool dont realize it..LOL LOL...and i like the word you use...HAND OUT LOL LOL LOL...that fool couldnt do anything without capital investments lol...are you so dumb that you beleive he bust his butt LOL LOL...Pizza been around a long time....dont take a whiz to do it could if you had investors willing to invested billions....(corporate connections the same as Donald Trump) hes trying to pay them back.....see you dont know the GAME bro...thats all it is a GAME

June 13, 2011 at 6:48 p.m.
SavartiTN said...

Hey Seamonkey, "illegal" aliens aren't illegal once they are in the country. They are only illegal if they are crossing into the country "illegally." But once they are here, no one cares. So Wasserman Schulz comment wasn't off course. However, despite being a Democrat, I would like to see them officially declared "illegal."

June 13, 2011 at 6:58 p.m.
chet123 said...

mymy...i cant stop you from beleiving in a con job...if you want to beleive in Santa Claus and Easter Bunny thats your problem....but Herman Cain is a Big is Sarah buy their people....people with low intellect...dollars chasers...with no CORE VALUE....they go with the money...and they are easy to be bought....the democrat party may have taints of people like that(chris Dodds)..but republican as a whole support the rich and greedy and is anti-america.greed have no loyalty to country only to money

June 13, 2011 at 7 p.m.
fairmon said...


sexual activity using various electronic media is not normal although some people, not a majority for sure, do it. I can't imagine it being worthwhile but to each his own. Frankly I don't care if he shows his runty naked ass to adult women other than his wife. Why in the heck they would be interested other than the fact he is a member of congress willing to behave that way is beyond me. Wiener and others in both parties participating in inappropriate behavior after accepting a position of trust and responsibility have no business in that position. In my opinion forgiving and forgetting is not the correct reaction. No wonder our youth think it is OK.

More serious than the behavior is the bare faced lying, misleading and attempting to manipulate. For that there is no effective treatment. Once trust is compromised in any relationship it will never be the same. There will always be a nagging wondering if their words or actions are credible. Neither party has a clean record, in fact both have atrocious records in this arena. To allow anyone reflecting on congress in that manner and in violation of the ethics policy should not be allowed to continue serving.

Lying in a court of law is perjury and a punishable crime. Lying or giving false testimony to congress is perjury and a punishable crime. Congress threatens to charge a baseball player with perjury due to their belief he may have given false testimony. Apparently congress can lie to each other and to the public without penalty.

It is time to reinvent America via major changes such as term limits and standards of behavior. It is time to have each party identify their candidate then provide each of them free TV time each week to define their agenda, outline their plans to accomplish their objectives and who they will select for each cabinet position. I know, it ain't gonna happen that way and we will keep getting our leg pissed on and told it is raining.

June 13, 2011 at 7:10 p.m.
fairmon said...

Is prostitution legal in New York? Obama was on Wall St. soliciting today. Apparently he was asking the big money folks what their favorite way of "doing it" was and that he wanted to partner with them. He will really have to perform to beat out the other D.C. prostitutes and their pimps.

June 13, 2011 at 7:17 p.m.
tderng said...

Hmmm...I just realized that chet encoded his IQ in his name 1+2+3=6

June 13, 2011 at 7:43 p.m.
mymy said...

Chet123: apparently you can only count to 3. That is what your stupid comments reflect.

You should do some research into something more worthwile than sex scandles. History perhaps and what made this country great that has been slowly eroded for many decades. There is enogh blame to spread around, but I blame the left the most expecially with the breakdown of our society.

With Obama and the Democrates we are now is a tail spin from which we may never recover and you don't have a clue or you would be as distraught as those who do.

“Balancing a budget is not liberal. It is the antithesis of Liberalism/Progressivism. All taxes are collected from the top half of income earners. The lower half pay nothing to the IRS. The lower half are the ones getting most of the financial assistance from the Federal Programs.

You cannot just keep taxing the top 50% and increase the benefits to the lower 50%. Eventually you tax the top 50% out of business. When there is no one left to increase taxes on, where do you go? No more tax increases as the budget must be balanced. How to do that? Simple, balance the budget by reducing spending dramatically and requiring all to pay at least a portion of their income to the IRS.”

June 13, 2011 at 7:50 p.m.
mymy said...

Alpo still want to talk about the Wienergate. Well, here it is.

If he has a whit of sense left in his twisted head, he'll drop the sham of a leave of absence, resign and slink off into his personal nightmare. The final straw for Pelosi was a report of his online communication with a 17-year-old high-school student from Delaware. Cops are looking into it, even as Weiner insisted it was all "innocent. " But why would anyone believe him? That's the thing about trust. It's an all-or-nothing deal. In his case it's nothing. He's an admitted liar with a penchant for pornography and exhibitionism. Next case. He did get the support of Charlie ("The Crook") Rangel, who professed to see nothing wrong. Good grief. When Rangel sees nothing wrong, you know there's plenty wrong. While Weiner destroyed his own reputation, the failure of leaders to break with him was morphing into an integrity test for the party. Each day they remained silent, Pelosi & Co. risked turning Democrats into the Party of Weiner. If he is good enough for them, they are not good enough for America. Look at it this way: Weiner's toxic conduct would have gotten him fired instantly from any private job in the nation, and no sane employer would hire him. Even by the low standards of government, his behavior is so far out of bounds that it was obvious he has to go.

June 13, 2011 at 8:02 p.m.
fairmon said...


Your 6:38 post was your most if not only cognisant post to date. Are you saying unacceptable behavior by republicans make it OK for democrats to do those things. Does wrong + wrong=right? 25% of those you list did not hold public office. GWB were all unproven allegations. This list proves both parties suck and neither are to be trusted. Not one of the deviates in either party should be allowed to continue holding office. That includes tax cheats Charlie Wrangle and Tim Geithner or any other ass in either party that cheats on taxes.

You may be more influential by telling people specific actions by your party that is good instead of grading the intellect of the other party inviting an in kind response which is not likely to do any more than prove both parties have serious deficiencies. I admit it is difficult to describe anything either party is doing that will effectively address the issues this country is facing so the temptation is to try to portray the other party as uglier.

June 13, 2011 at 8:04 p.m.
fairmon said...

Anyone want to start a pool to see who can guess the closest date when Wiener's wife will pull the plug on him. How could she ever trust him again? She did marry him so she may not be the sharpest pencil in the box. Politicians wives do seem to have an unusual high level of tolerance.

June 13, 2011 at 8:30 p.m.
dude_abides said...

I just saw SeaMonkey dancing at the strut on Newschannel 9!

June 13, 2011 at 11:04 p.m.
blackwater48 said...


What law did Congressman Weiner break?

If he chooses to quit I won't lose any sleep over it, but I was reminded today of the 1983 case involving Congressman Gerry Studds. He's the guy who was censured by the House for having a sexual affair with an underage page. An underage MALE page. Studds lost his subcommittee chairmanship, but his district went on to re-elected him five or six times.

Go figure.

Senator Vitter has been mentioned here for soliciting prostitutes innumerable times, which is illegal, (why isn't he in jail?) but he was re-elected by the good people of Louisiana.

Go figure. What the hell. If that's who the voters want...

I thought you tea baggers were all about 'states rights' and 'freedom' and all that. So why not let his district decide if they want him as their representative? Is that too basic? Too obvious?

Or too obtuse?

While you're mulling all that over, remind me: what law did Weiner break?

June 13, 2011 at 11:27 p.m.
tderng said...

bw48...Vitter was not charged because the statute of limitations had run out,he had already come clean with his wife.He did drop out of the governors race he was in.Then ran for a congressional seat in the next election.

To the best of our knowledge Wiener hasn't broken any laws unless there was something with the 17yo high school girl he was texting with. He may not have broke any laws(that we know of) but carrying on an online "conversation" with someone that young is absolutely creepy. If you don't agree,then there is something creepy about you!

June 13, 2011 at 11:48 p.m.
alprova said...

tderng wrote: "To the best of our knowledge Wiener hasn't broken any laws unless there was something with the 17yo high school girl he was texting with."

It has been widely reported that the girl has specifically stated that the Congressman texted nothing at all indecent to her. The fact is that none of these women are complaining at all about what he did. None. None are claiming to be victims either. They were all willing participants in what constitutes nothing more than simple flirting online.

All you people calling it creepy would have a point if it were YOU that he were flirting with. But you're fooling no one. If a twenty something were to throw herself on any one of you, and if any of you were able to perform, so to speak, you'd jump on it in a heartbeat.

So putting on a show in here is rather pointless. You're all still men, or so we hope, you have natural attractions, be they whatever they are, and you're not dead yet, so again, let's not get holier than thou.

June 14, 2011 at 2:51 a.m.
fairmon said...


No indication he was trying to hook up with these women for some real action. He wanted to exchange sexy pictures and talk about it which is kinky but not illegal. Lying to his peers and the public is unethical and in violation of congressional ethics policy. In my opinion, which will never prevail, anyone lying to the public or congress should not hold office. Anyone involved in criminal acts of any kind should not hold office. The fact both parties have their share of deviates doesn't make it OK for either party.

It may be a challenge to find anyone to fill the positions if all that attempted to mislead or manipulate were removed and barred so it best be limited to those obviously lying.

June 14, 2011 at 8:08 a.m.
chet123 said...

Resonding to Posting by SEAMONKEY...June 12 5:58pm

mymy/harp/tderng/seamonkey....glad to hear from you...what took you so long???? i'm not a sex police...but your republican party is just that without holding themselvs accountable. I personally think the congressman from NY should be ran out of the Country. I'm a Proud Democrat and think that kind of childish behavior should never be tolerated....however your good friend SEAMONKEY went on a rant about the so-call liberal media LOL lOL

i just exposed the hypocrisy in the republican party and how George W. Bush and Bill O'Reilly , John Bolton got a free pass by the so-call liberal media....sorry to embarass your party...but couldnt sit back and let seamonkey flat out lie.

You republican should just shut up when it come to sex are the king-pins....Harp, sorry to hurt you like that...but politic is BRUTAL...OBAMA BETTER LEARN TO FIGHT BACK..ITS NO PLACE FOR A GOOD GUY..THAT WAS PROVEN WITH JIMMY CARTER,WHO WAS A GOOD MAN. When it comes to politic i beleive in eye for eye tooth for tooth....hope Democrat get political Advisers and strategists like JAMES CARVELLE, RON BROWN...OBAMA WILL NEED PIT BULLS AROUND HIM WHO WILL FIGHT BACK FOR THE PEOPLE AS ROOSEVELT DID...Obama Administration is too soft, TOO COMPROMISING! He will be running against coporate and lobbyist butt kissers...

June 14, 2011 at 3:21 p.m.
chet123 said...

Sarah Palin is an exception..shes not a corporate butt kisser..the girl just need a brain LOL LOL LOL

June 14, 2011 at 3:26 p.m.
fairmon said...


You are a dum ass. Where do you think Obama is getting his almost one billion from? Corporations and unions, check it out if you know how. $80 million from the ISEU yesterday. Why do you think he visited Wall St. this week? Good god man get your head out of your ass. The other thing that proves you are ignorant as a rock is to think I am a republican or loyal to any party. Just because I don't think your man is worth a darn and that he is an economic idiot doesn't mean I like the other parties idiots any better. Why don't you get a job that will allow you to pay enough taxes to help other people? Your blind loayalty and gullibility have no equal.

June 14, 2011 at 10:39 p.m.
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