published Wednesday, June 15th, 2011

Was a president in GOP debate?

When seven Republicans hoping to become president of the United States appeared together Monday night for a debate, did you see “the next president of the United States” in the lineup?

Alphabetically, the hopefuls were Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, businessman Herman Cain of Georgia, former Speaker of the House of Representatives Newt Gingrich of Georgia, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum.

There’s a reasonable likelihood that one of them will be the Republican presidential nominee and will be facing Democrat President Barack Obama in November 2012 — although others still might enter the race.

And while many Americans still wonder how the extremely inexperienced Obama managed to get to the White House, that doesn’t answer the question of which Republican should replace him.

There obviously is no Washington or Lincoln — from either party — in the 2012 presidential field, and yet soon, we will be called on to elect someone to the most powerful position in U.S. government.

None of the Republican presidential hopefuls scored a knockout blow against the other candidates in the debate Monday. But neither did any of them look inadequate — especially when compared with Obama, whose mismanagement of the economy alone indicates that he should be retired next year.

We need a great president to lead our country, to inspire our national confidence and to unify us around sound economics and reasonable policies on other domestic issues — as well as one who can lead us in facing both known and unpredictable international challenges.

Did presumed front-runner Romney “look more presidential” than some of the others on stage? Maybe. But will his political record, philosophy and personality propel him to the nomination? It’s far too early to say.

More important is the question of whether any of the likely Republican candidates can defeat Obama.

We surely have the finest nation in the world, with the greatest Constitution any country has ever had. But do you see a great president, or potential president, when you look at Obama and the GOP field?

If not, what could one of them do or say to give you confidence that he or she is “the one”?

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nucanuck said...

If the GOP nominee were to be determined from this debate, then Michele Bachmann will be the nominee. She far outshown the boys.

June 15, 2011 at 12:21 a.m.
EaTn said...

Were there any presidential material in the lineup? No, but they were all weak enough for me to have a choice when I vote in the GOP primary.

June 15, 2011 at 7:54 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

the question should not be "was a president in the gop debate"...but do we have a president now?

we have a guy there who eats a mean chilli dog, or two..and who is a pretty dedicated and crappy golfer, ...and a guy who uses the constitution to wipe his back side, but we don't really have a competant and responsible leader. we have an idealogue with marxist leanings who has backed off a bit since 11/2/10, but who still has visions of "transforming" the u.s. into some kind of a marxist-like state.

i don't like gingrich because he's a hypocrite and a liar...and a cheat.....but any of the other candidates on that state are far superior to obumble......obama either doesn't know what the hell he's doing, or he knows and doesn't care. bad either way.

you can also toss rick perry and john huntsman in there.

you libs blather about none have "star quality"...but look what "star quality" got us....a disaster.

i'd take an ordinary, plain spoken person who knows that you don't spend trillions more than you take in, over a demagogue and dictator wannabe who acts like our money is monopoly money.

June 15, 2011 at 11:03 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

yeah...herman cain is fine with me...no nonsense and he'll leave people alone.

we don't need some dufus sticking his long fingers into every aspect of our lives just because he can and believes he has the power to.

with this libya thing going on i think even congress, dems as well, are realizing obama thinks he's king or a dictator.

members of congress as far apart politically as dennis kucinich and ron paul agree obama is con- ducting an illegal/unconstitutional war in libya.

June 15, 2011 at 2:29 p.m.
Leaf said...

The only ones who seemed intelligent and actually answered questions were Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich. But one is a kook and the other is a crook. Bachmann's botox has seeped into her brain, and Cain, ironically, hates minorities. Romney is a waffler with no mind of his own, and I can't recall what Pawlenty or what's-his-name said.

I personally didn't see presidential material in the debate. But then again, you don't necessarily have to be presidential material to be President these days.

June 15, 2011 at 3:08 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Regarding the comment that Obama is an "ideologue with Marxist leanings" who has "visions of 'transforming' the U.S. into some kind of a marxist-like state,"... what garbage! Only someone with his head stuck so far up his libertarian/teaparty ass would make an asinine comment like that. Obama in actuality is so centrist that he could have passed for a Republican just a few decades ago. The Republican party has become so extremist, has moved so insanely far to the right, that anything even slightly to the left of it seems "Marxist" by their standards.

Those who embrace some fairy tale vision of a government-free, tax-free country of unregulated markets and complete individual freedom to do whatever the hell they want without regard for others are no more rational than grown people who still believe in Santa Claus. I wish they could all secede and form their own libertarian "paradise" of guns for everyone, no taxes, no government and then see how long their society lasts. Of course, that has already been tried - it was called the "Wild West."

June 15, 2011 at 3:40 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

rick, you're a moron...obama is a leftist who campaigned as a centrist so he could get elected, then stampeded like a braying jackass to the far left as soon as he was sworn in. after he had his scrawny ass handed to him on 11/2/10 by the voters he slinked back to the center... and to this day is pretending to be a moderate, and a reasonable man.

leaf..." i personally didn't see presidential material in the debate"....really?...i got news for you.. we have a guy in the white house who isn't presidential material.

rick, and he rest of you libs....obama is whatever he needs to be liked and stay in power... but above everything he's narcisist.....at heart he's a marxist...but he's also a dictator, a thug, an ass kisser, a liar, a mob boss and very much a corporatist, the coporations that kiss his thuggish ass...

"the republican party has become so extremist"....you have got to be kidding....look at your party! the democrat party is as left as it can get...far, far left...extremist and anti-american.

the democrat party is about imposing it's will on the american people..and the constitution and freedom be damned......it's a party of extremist minorities who will engage in any corrupt behavior to impose their will on the majority, a majority who think you're a bunch of nutbags....

June 15, 2011 at 4:36 p.m.
chet123 said...

OHHHHH I FORGOT...SEEM LIKE TO ME BANKERS ARE GODS...TAKE ADVISE FROM NOONE...PAY THEMSELVES WHAT THEY WANT TO PAY(WITH TAX PAYER MONEY)...THIS IS THE WAY REPUBLICAN SEE THE WORLD...MIDDLE CLASS DONT EVEN DESERVES COLLECTIVE BARGAINING...BETTER NOT SAY ANYTHING...BANKERS BLOW TRILLION DOLLARS AND DARE THE PRESIDENT TO SAY ANYTHINGS LOL LOL LOL LOL.....

June 15, 2011 at 4:41 p.m.
chet123 said...

MICHELE BACHMANN...WILL BE THE REPUBLICAN PREZ CANDIDATE OR VICE PRIEZ CANDIDATE,,,SHE HAVE THE REPUBLICAN T-PARTY SUPPORT...THEY MAY BE THE MAJORITY OF THE PARTY....THEY ARE REBELING AGAINST THE ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN....NO REPUBLICAN CAN WIN WITHOUT THEM...AND SHE HAS THEIR SUPPORT ALL THE WAY.

GINGRICH IS COOKED...HE'S DONE...ITS ALL OVER...THE FAT LADY READY TO SING

June 15, 2011 at 4:47 p.m.
Plato said...

As a centrist Democrat I thought Mitt Romney looked and sounded presidential. He was the only adult on the stage IMO. If the Pubs tap Romney they have a good shot in the general, but if they choose any of these other nitwits and empty suits I saw up there, then they will be waiting another 4 years for their turn.

June 15, 2011 at 6:36 p.m.
SeaMonkey said...

gee, plato....it seems that you dems want to decide who'll run against obama.....like you did in 2008...the media kept pushing mccain and you libs voted for mccain in some republican primaries where you don't have to state your party because you knew obama could beat him. not going to work this time.

why is romney the only adult on the stage? ...could it be because he appeals to you centrists and moderates?.......thats's a bad sign...you stand for nothing , and you sure were fooled in 2008 by obama..

the fact that you dems chose obama makes you a poor judge of who's presidential material... you picked a jackass in obama.......yeah, you really know how to pickem

obama is the ultimate empty suit.....just a dumb ass who reads a teleprompter really well...but is as clueless as those expensive sneakers he wears to shoot hoops.

i hope the republican party pics the most conservative ticket possible..

i wouldn't mind seeing a michelle bachman/paul ryan ticket....or bachman/cain...or maybe.. rick perry/michelle bachman...

June 15, 2011 at 10:44 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense."

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

"Only a fool would try to deprive working men and working women of their right to join the union of their choice... workers have a right to organize into unions and to bargain collectively with their employers, and . . . a strong, free labor movement is an invigorating and necessary part of our industrial society."

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

All of the above are direct quotes from Dwight D. Eishenhower, Republican President (1953-1961) and decorated hero of WW2. At a time when taxes - both capital gains and earned income – were 91% for those in the top income bracket, he had this to say about those tax rates: “We cannot afford to reduce taxes, reduce (federal) income, until we have in sight a program of expenditure that shows that the factors of income and outgo will be balanced."

He also signed into law the Kerr-Mills Bill, generally considered to be the forerunner of Medicare. Kerr-Mills provided for government payment of medical bills of 70% for citizens aged 65 and older.

And of course everyone knows about Ike's well known advocacy for and implementation of the Interstate Highway System. It was funded to the tune of 90% by the federal government. Supposing it had never been created and Obama were trying to do that today, he would be getting all kinds of flack from conservatives crowing that the government has no business building and financing highways.

I stand by my previous statement: the right wing has moved so ludicrously far to the right, they have lost all sense of reality. If Obama is an “ideologue with Marxist leanings,” then conservative, Republican, war hero Ike must have been a card-carrying member of the Communist party.

June 16, 2011 at 12:43 a.m.
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