published Wednesday, May 25th, 2011

The Perch

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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canarysong said...

Wow.... Amazing cartoon.

May 25, 2011 at 12:12 a.m.

whats with the middle east clay?

May 25, 2011 at 4:31 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Problem. Solution?

"There is forgiveness with Thee, that Thou mayest be feared"--Psalm 130.

"Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors, and lead us not into temptation"--Matthew 6.

"Neither do I sentence you. Go stop sinning"--John 8.

Jews and Arabs need the Prince of Peace, first for forgiveness from God, and toward each other, of real sins, and also to stop sinning, to get a just and workable way to live. (So do Chattanoogans.)

May 25, 2011 at 6:24 a.m.
sandyonsignal said...

Brilliant and succinct, Clay.

May 25, 2011 at 6:56 a.m.
MTJohn said...

A picture is worth a 1000 words. This cartoon is a trilogy.

May 25, 2011 at 7:15 a.m.
mymy said...

Ah, Obama and his foreign policy disguised as a peacemaker! Look out world!

He nothing more than a bafoon. (Fool, idiot, one who pretends to know something but does not.)

Obama signs Westminster Abbey guestbook, dates it May 24, 2008?

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/05/president_obama_has_no_idea_wh.html

Fumbles toast...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/05/awkward-moment-during-obama-toast-to-queen-.html

LOL LOL LOL what an embarrassment to this country.

May 25, 2011 at 7:32 a.m.
ITguy said...

Don't worry, the dove will never land. Big Ridge, Sea Monkey and L4F will scare him/her away.

May 25, 2011 at 8:32 a.m.
limric said...

I am always amazed (aggravated?) that Jewish Americans pledge their allegiance to a political party of a foreign state. A state which the US has NO formal treaty obligations, which killed dozens of US sailors aboard a navy vessel in 1967, and which has, time and again, been caught committing acts of espionage in the US - one openly advocating theft of Arab Land and the ethnic cleansing of that land.

And we get ...what, exactly, from our alliance with this increasingly brutal apartheid state?

Isn't the one who pays the allowance is the one who sets the limits.

Israel is a horrible, spoiled teenager who thinks that no rules apply to him. He blames his behavior on a collection of hurts. If you don’t give him cookies and milk, you’re an anti-Semite. Always whining; these hurts are recorded, cherished, nurtured, recited and always referred to in great detail whenever he is called onto the carpet. He has no understanding of or empathy for anyone else. He is completely self-centered.

I say, no allowance for him until he learns to follow the rules of behavior and stop bullying.

May 25, 2011 at 8:37 a.m.
ibshame said...

mymy wrote: LOL LOL LOL what an embarrassment to this country.

You cannot be for real. Just a reminder of the one who occupied the White House before Pres. Obama. LOL LOL LOL

"Let me start off by saying that in 2000 I said, 'Vote for me. I'm an agent of change.' In 2004, I said, 'I'm not interested in change --I want to continue as president.' Every candidate has got to say 'change.' That's what the American people expect." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 5, 2008

May 25, 2011 at 8:39 a.m.
Leaf said...

Mymy said, "He nothing more than a bafoon. (Fool, idiot, one who pretends to know something but does not.)"

You misspelled buffoon and used bad grammar. Was that supposed to be ironic?

May 25, 2011 at 8:48 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

islam and peace are like oil and water.

there will never be peace as long as muslims believe israel and jews should be wiped off the face of the earth, and as long they believe it's ok to murder those of other beliefs ....that means never.

screw them......civilized nations don't have to accept them and their savage behavior.

israel is perfectly willing to let muslims be muslims...arabic is one of the official languages in israel.. muslims can take part in the government....the problem is not israel..it's muslims.

no one has treated palestinians as badly as fellow muslim have in other muslim countries...

i don't see jordan now trying to make up for the fact that king hussein of jordan booted them out of jordan in the 60's and 70's? trans-jordan was their homeland.

muslims are the only ones standing in the way of peace...no one else...

israel doesn't owe them a damn thing.

since obumble has been office anti-semetic rhetoric and behavior has exploded....

why doesn't obama go to israel....because he doens't have the balls to

o'bama ...the retarded leprechaun, who apparently doesn't know what year it is, only makes things worse in the middle east because he feels the need kiss up to savages who refuse to join the civilized community of nations..

May 25, 2011 at 8:54 a.m.
Leaf said...

The real problem is demographics. The Israelis are in a tough position. They are a tiny minority surrounded by enemies who are outbreeding them 3 to 1. It's an unnatural situation. In times past, they would be swallowed up and assimilated. But they have nuclear weapons and the support of the US.

I really don't see how they can survive in the long term without the goodwill of their neighbors. But neither side has much goodwill to spare for the other.

May 25, 2011 at 8:55 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

limric...only an ass would post the crap you just posted about israel....an anti-semetic ass..

"a spoiled child" ......only an anti-semite would have that take on it.......when was the last time an arab/muslim nation gave up land like israel has...? huh? why don't the muslims/arabs give back land they've won through terror and slaughter?

arabs/muslims are the ultimate spoiled child...i suppose that's why obama likes them....if they dont' get their way they'll kill, terrorize and threaten......you truly do have your head up your ass..

"brutal apartheid state".....moronic assessment..........israel shows far more respect for arabs and muslims than muslims do to fellow muslim....

israel is the grown up...surrounded by angry spoiled children..

May 25, 2011 at 9:05 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

jews in this country vote overwhelmingly democrat..and have supported obama.....the democrat party has been brutally critical of israel over the years.....so what loyalty are you referring to.

poor, poor babies...poor arab/muslims...so mistreated...so misunderstood......gag...

the level of anger toward israel by you lefties speaks to your sanity..........your devotion to the idea that if israel is gone everything will be ok..is madness....because that's really what you want.

May 25, 2011 at 9:13 a.m.
hambone said...

Once more, the Monkey has barfed all over this forum!

May 25, 2011 at 9:24 a.m.
Leaf said...

The pre Fox news definition of a liberal thinker was someone who could put himself in the shoes of another and try to see a situation through another's eyes. By doing so we can understand the motivations and emotions of those with opposing viewpoints. We may not agree with them, but sometimes we can find common ground and compromise.

Both the Palestinians and Israelis have legitimate problems and concerns. It's a tough situation but it's made infinitely tougher when non-liberal thinkers are in power. They see the world in black and white - us vs. them. It's easier to think in black and white, but it's intellectually lazy and leads to bad decisions.

May 25, 2011 at 9:25 a.m.
limric said...

And we get ...what, exactly, from our alliance with Israel? A state which the US has NO formal treaty obligations. How are they our 'allies'?

I see that somebody here did not get their milk and cookies today.

The so-called "peace process" is an unendingly bleak charade.

May 25, 2011 at 9:30 a.m.
BobMKE said...

Oblama got the date right. He is adopting what the Hall of Frame Baseball Players do when they sign autographs; they put the date down when they were inducted into the Hall of Frame. Oblama thinks he a Hall of Framer.

May 25, 2011 at 10:10 a.m.
SeaMonkey said...

no, hambreath...i make a lot of good points.....i must say it is fun to irritate you, though..

"non-liberal" thinkers..? ........what could be more black and white than hamas' view of israel and jews.. that they must be wiped off he face of the earth....? that's pretty black and white...jews have shown they can get along, muslims have not...1500 years worth of not getting along...........ignorant..

..........the peace process is a "bleak charade" because only one party is interested in peace..the other will not back down from it's goal of killing jews and wiping israel off of the face of the earth...

get real....

May 25, 2011 at 10:12 a.m.
hambone said...

Francis Troll Monkey, If I ever let a poor pathtic little individual like you irritate me . I'll just shoot myself!

May 25, 2011 at 11:22 a.m.
woody said...

I have a penchant (and I realize it) for borrowing quotes from wiser people to make certain points, at times..So, this time will be no different.

Only this time the quote comes from a movie..not a philosopher..an actor, speaking the lines written for him by a Hollywood penman, but so relevant to today's 'toon', as if (wait for it..) it was written for it.

"...real peace is not just the absence of conflict; it is the presence of justice...." As spoken by Harrison Ford in the movie, "Air Force One."

Even if peace in The Middle East were possible, would justice prevail?? Not, as some have said, as long as there are at least one Arab and one Israeli left alive..unfortunately..Woody

May 25, 2011 at 11:23 a.m.
potcat said...

Monkey, the only thing you have ever gotten right is your name "Sea Monkey," that dust to dust crap is just that, crap! Every living thing on this Earth was EVOLVED from WATER, so Sea Monkey is correct.

As for the Arab Jew, its their written History, they are Arabs! When America gives Israel $2 billion, Egypt $2 billion and 400 million a year to Jordon and supplys their militarys with billions with weapons out the ass, they don't get to dictate to the U.S. squat.

How can the Federal Goverment..the President, Congress, ask American citizens to sacrifice, while we give trillions to other Countrys.. take care of our own first!

I had to get my 2 cents in on this one, it makes my blood boil, we can even blame the economy on the Money Cult...they run us politically, finacially and are working diligently on the rest of the world. We better wake the hell up!

May 25, 2011 at 11:29 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

SeaMonkey said: “brutal apartheid state".....moronic assessment..........israel shows far more respect for arabs and muslims than muslims do to fellow muslim...."

I don't think you're paying much attention to current events, SeaMonkey. The truth is many Jewish Americans are expressing their concerns about what is occurring in Israel, particularly Israel’s human rights violations, and the role that AIPAC plays in distorting U.S. foreign policy towards the Middle East. If you want to know what others are thinking, step outside the bubble.

http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/blog/jewish-americans-speak-out-against-aipac-lobbys-policy-on-israelpalestine

May 25, 2011 at 11:31 a.m.
MTJohn said...

SeaMonkey said... ..........the peace process is a "bleak charade" because only one party is interested in peace..

Monkey - you got that one half-right. the peace process is a bleak charade because neither side is interested in Peace. In his speech yesterday, Netanyahu did not offer peace - he outlined the terms by which he would accept the Palestinian's unconditional surrender.

I think it also is important to remember a little history. Israel's legitimacy as a nation is grounded in a U.N. resolution. That same resolution calls for a Palestinian state. The international community has delivered on that promise for Israel. The Palestinians are still waiting and, in the mean time, live as refugees in their own country.

May 25, 2011 at 11:45 a.m.
mtngrl said...

"According to a Teleseker-Maariv poll, conducted last night, a clear majority of 57 percent of Israelis would have wanted Netanyahu to say “yes” or “yes, but” to the path to a two-state solution outlined in President Obama’s speech. (As pollster Dahlia Scheindlin wrote on this site, such figures correspond to previous polls, which show, for most part, the support of most of the Jewish public for a two-state solution based on the ‘67 borders.)"

"If those numbers represent the real attitude of the Israeli public, then Netanyahu has presented a false picture in the speeches given during his U.S. visit– he enjoys a stronger coalition than he cares to present, but in rejecting the 1967 borders as the basis for negotiations, he doesn’t reflect the views of most Israelis."

http://972mag.com/poll-netanyahu-us-congress-aipac-stand-to-the-right-of-israeli-public/

May 25, 2011 at 11:45 a.m.
chet123 said...

Obama during the right thing!!!!

May 25, 2011 at 11:46 a.m.
chet123 said...

Shut up seamonkey...we have people in this country still waving the confederate flag.....and noone took their land....so we have people harboring hate for less reason.

May 25, 2011 at 11:48 a.m.
chet123 said...

Netanyahu is not funding the U.S....its the reverse...Obama have committed to increase aid to Israel(Billions)...Think that entitle him to say something....how dumb can you be man!!

May 25, 2011 at 11:53 a.m.
nucanuck said...

Under any rational analysis, the establisment of Israel was a huge, well intentioned political blunder. Just as when British cartographers drew lines on maps creating countries that divided ancient tribes, intervening in poorly understood cultures can create conflicts out of all proportion to local peoples abilities to work through local problems.

The Western intervention that has so conflicted the Middle East for several centuries won't likely be cured by more intervention.

Giving the Middle East space to manage their own affairs, make their own mistakes, and move forward without Western military and political manipulation, might be the only long term hope for the region.

What we are doing now clearly isn't working.

May 25, 2011 at 11:54 a.m.
tderng said...

wow! lots of anti-semites here!Check your history people,the land belonged to the Jews and the Philistines 4,000 years ago so the Jews have a right to their ancestral land!If the Palestinian Terrorists would work for peace then there wouldn't be any Palestinian refugees.

school must have let out early today so I shall leave until bedtime.I don't want to get a headache.

May 25, 2011 at 12:05 p.m.
nucanuck said...

tderng,

Your logic lacks logic.

May 25, 2011 at 12:09 p.m.
nucanuck said...

tderng,

Using your logic, North America should be returned to the indigenant peoples. Would that be your recommendation?

May 25, 2011 at 12:16 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Potcat said: "How can the Federal Goverment..the President, Congress, ask American citizens to sacrifice, while we give trillions to other Countrys.. take care of our own first!"

Indeed, it is very frustrating. Isn’t it, Potcat? But I suppose the millions and millions of dollars that our politicians give to Israel each year helps their government to pay for their universal healthcare system. Lets face it, without U.S. taxpayer dollars the Israeli government might not be able to afford Israel’s fine universal healthcare program.

May 25, 2011 at 12:18 p.m.
Leaf said...

No matter how tempting it is to throw up your hands and say, "we give up. Just let them fight it out" or, "You will adopt my peace proposal or we will bomb you both back to the stone age," neither one of these is a realistic solution.

It is in the best interest of the US to have stability in the Middle East. We can't force it, but sometimes we can mitigate problems if we have influence. That's why we give all these nations money. Also the Israeli Mossad is the best intelligence organization in the Middle East and you can be sure we share with them.

It's a crappy situation, but as long as we get oil from that region we need to care what happens there.

May 25, 2011 at 12:43 p.m.

nucanuck said... tderng, Using your logic, North America should be returned to the indigenant peoples. Would that be your recommendation?

Interesting question. Of course those rules don't apply to America Nucanuck! insert eye roll here

May 25, 2011 at 1:02 p.m.
mtngrl said...

Delving further into tderng's logic, not only do the native Americans "have a right to their ancestral land", it seems that since the majority of Israelites believe Palestine should have its own state then they must be anti-semites as well. And since the consensus among the conservative posters is that universal health care = socialism, then logic just follows that the Israelites must be anti-semitic socialists...

May 25, 2011 at 1:13 p.m.
ITguy said...

Leaf said "It's a crappy situation, but as long as we get oil from that region we need to care what happens there."

Enough said.

May 25, 2011 at 1:20 p.m.
chet123 said...

Tderng....how far you want to go back...Abraham????.Bro...you getting into something you dont understand...its not so simple....we cant never give up on peace talk like Bush did...hope you know there are Countries with Nukes that sympathetic to palestine.....reconcilation is the best way to go....never give up on peace talk....even if the only thing you are getting is buying time..

May 25, 2011 at 1:27 p.m.
chet123 said...

What did you fellows learn in school....Inferior Education(pseudo intellect)

May 25, 2011 at 1:29 p.m.
chet123 said...

Correct Itguy!!!

May 25, 2011 at 1:30 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

AMAZING CARTOON. Especially considering the source. Have to give this one to clay.

I wonder if it aggravates his fan club that he keeps bringing up the Middle East. Was that not the same crowd that crowed on about the peace loving Muslims taking back their country(s) from the despots ruling them? Wasn’t it all of those “extreme right wingers” on these pages who predicted this was going to go badly? You have not seen anything yet.

Clay, I wish you could stay on important topics like this and avoid wasting your message on trying to twist the image of the Tea Party, Sarah Palin and conservatives in general.

May 25, 2011 at 2:28 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Leaf said... “The pre Fox news definition of a liberal thinker was someone who could put himself in the shoes of another and try to see a situation through another's eyes”

Before leftists abandoned the progressive label and adopted the liberal label, liberal meant someone who believed in individual rights and the power of capitalism. After polluting the liberal label they are trying progressive again. You know those progressives, one day socialism/Marxism is going to work, they just need to keep repackaging and retrying.

May 25, 2011 at 2:29 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

limric said... "And we get ...what, exactly, from our alliance with Israel?"

An island of stability and reason in an important region filled with chaos and hate rooted in theology?

May 25, 2011 at 2:31 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Since bennett is not a looser today I thought I would honor the occasion with a new avatar. How long can clay keep the L avatar away?

May 25, 2011 at 2:34 p.m.

Not long, BRP. But I believe you have influenced his recent attempts to escape the same ol' tired partisan slop.

May 25, 2011 at 3:06 p.m.
chet123 said...

BigRidge4freedom...you are too old to go anywhere to fight....so you are just shooting your mouth off....you are obsessed with the word left and liberalism....the last time i check ...there are two major political party in the US..the democratic party and republican party.....i know you want to divert from the Subject......as most republican(Lee Atwater School of fear)...but since you are a so-call expert on the Democrat Party..maybe you should be sharing some of your expertise with your own party(republican party)because your party really look like fools...and will be unseated in 2012...

May 25, 2011 at 3:33 p.m.
chet123 said...

BigRidge...you are too dense to understand the Mid-East.....Israel will alway be America Friend...but you have to also be sensitive to the palestinian.....you cant snub millions of people who have most of the world sympathezing with them(do your home work bro)...if not careful we can get drawn into a war we cant win....its very touchy!!!!But i have to remind myself that you are the so-call expert..LOL LOL

May 25, 2011 at 3:44 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

chet123 said...

"(insert pointless diatribe here)"

May 25, 2011 at 4:40 p.m.
MTJohn said...

tderng said...Check your history people,the land belonged to the Jews and the Philistines 4,000 years ago so the Jews have a right to their ancestral land!

If that logic holds, then the Philistines also have a right to their ancestral lands. So, following your own logic, why aren't you supporting the President's proposal for a 2-state solution?

May 25, 2011 at 5:02 p.m.
Leaf said...

BRP, you are confusing the word "liberal" with the political label "Liberal."
Liberal thinker, Liberal arts education, Politically liberal Socially liberal libertarian Economically liberal.

All different things. Ain't English great? William F. Buckley, for instance, was a liberal thinker with a liberal arts education, and a political and economic conservative. He sometimes called himself a libertarian. He famously was a giant pothead so I suppose that would be considered socially liberal. People are sometimes more complicated that one label can convey, huh?

May 25, 2011 at 5:07 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Leaf said: "The real problem is demographics. The Israelis are in a tough position. They are a tiny minority surrounded by enemies who are outbreeding them 3 to 1. It's an unnatural situation."

Indeed, it may be as you say that Israel is surrounding by “enemies, but why is this the case? A growing number of people believe it’s because the attitude of the Israeli leadership stinks. It seems to me that if the Israeli leadership applied a little fairness and some of these democratic principles they claim to have, they would be in a much position to reduce their enemy list. The longer Israel continues to ignore and violate the human rights of the Palestinians, the longer it will take for them to make friends in the region and other parts of the world – frankly, I don't think they care about making friends with anybody.

May 25, 2011 at 5:21 p.m.
chet123 said...

BigRidge4Freedom...which you would let me know when the next time you will be in here...do that for me Bro!..

May 25, 2011 at 5:24 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Woody said: "Real peace is not just the absence of conflict; it is the presence of justice."

There is a lot of wisdom in your quote of the day, Woody. Now, if only some of the leaders we have at the moment were wise enough to fully understand it. (Sigh)

May 25, 2011 at 5:27 p.m.
fairmon said...

My understanding of the complexity of the middle east qualifies me for congress or a position in the administration which means I don't have a clue regarding what to do. I do know we can't afford to keep borrowing money from China, India and Saudi Arabia to fund three wars in that area. The 'toon seems to indicate our peace efforts may result in one hell of an explosion which may be true.

We certainly need to avoid any conflict with China they probably would avoid buying our bonds to finance our efforts against them.

I will be inclined to support the party or an independent in 2012 with the intestinal fortitude to say we have to increase taxes on everyone, more on some than others, and we have to reduce spending.

May 25, 2011 at 5:41 p.m.
mymy said...

A buffoon, an embarrassment, sides with the enemy instead of allies, an enemy of this country you fools!

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100088961/barack-obama-top-ten-insults-against-britain-2011-edition/

May 25, 2011 at 6:24 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

mountainlaurel said... "A growing number of people believe it’s because the attitude of the Israeli leadership stinks"

I don't get that perspective. If a foreign government, say Cuba or Venezuela, was lobbing crude but occasionally effective rockets into the US I would expect our Commander and Chief to send the full might of the US armed forces down there and deal with the problem in a very forceful way. Israel looks pretty patient and forgiving as far as I can see.

Israel is not really the problem anyway. In a large percentage of Muslim minds any nation, tribe or individual that is not Muslim is the problem and Israel just happens to be the big glaring example sitting on their doorstep.

It does not matter that Jews occupy that chunk of real estate. It could be Christians, Buddhists, Hindi, Agnostics or Atheists and the Muslim states would still be determined to claim it for their own.

After they took Israel their ambitions would turn elsewhere. Global dominance is a living part of their dogma. People that yack on about American neocolonialism crack me up. They have a real example of expansionist ambitions staring them in the face and screaming their intentions. Those intentions based not on current events or the last 100 years but that are based on a religious belief system that goes back something like 500 years. (Someone on this forum can sharpen up that number for us, I can’t remember who)

How do someone dismiss a group that is openly antagonistic and becoming dangerously capable and then worry about the Israelis accidently hitting some US assets? Can anyone here name a war where there was no collateral damage?

May 25, 2011 at 6:33 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Woody said: "Real peace is not just the absence of conflict; it is the presence of justice."

mountainlaurel said... "There is a lot of wisdom in your quote of the day, Woody. Now, if only some of the leaders we have at the moment were wise enough to fully understand it. (Sigh)"

Sigh? How about Retch! Considering the source we are probably safe to assume justice includes Woody and mountainlaurel’s idea of income equity?

May 25, 2011 at 6:40 p.m.
hambone said...

MYMY, Did that mean ol Obama make you blush, Honey.

May 25, 2011 at 6:50 p.m.
dude_abides said...

BRP... I once saw a woman with a permanently tattooed typo on her arm. I think it said BRON TO LOSE (true, apparently). Every time I see you misspell loser I am reminded of that tattoo. We've had someone call another person a buffoon and misspell the word, and someone call another person a loser and...Christ, forget it.

May 25, 2011 at 8:34 p.m.
chet123 said...

MYMY...calm down buddy...you dont have enough information or accurate information to know who your enemy are??? i thought communist China was then i found out we were borrowing money to fight a war from China...i also thought bin laden was America enemy but found out Reagan had sent them millions of dollars to buy stinger missle, certainly though Iran was then found out reagan administration trade weapons for hortages...i thought Iraq was enemy but found out reagan had financed Saudi Hussein in a war against Iran....so MYMY...just do your part in holding these politician feet to the fire...regardless of party....just dont hate someone because Rush Limbaugh told you its the right thing to do....read ..and keep up with world event...do not be influenced by links on the computer many of them make false statements and are bank roll by people looking for self gain(rich and greedy)

May 25, 2011 at 8:43 p.m.
rolando said...

My favorite putdown for grammer/spelling snobs:

I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulacity uesdnatnrd waht I was rdgnieg. The Phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae.

Tfhe rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lterter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig eh? And I awlyas tohghut slpeling was ipmorantt...! And for toshe of you wtih mroe tmie tahn ohrets you wlli ntocie taht not olny are msot of the wrosd a mses but smoe of tehm are cpmlpoetley msisseplt awslel.....!

But perhaps those same snobs do not have the necessary human mind to unsort it, ya think?

May 25, 2011 at 8:57 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Fcuk ouy orlando

May 25, 2011 at 9:29 p.m.
dude_abides said...

it's grammar not grammer, dcikhaed

May 25, 2011 at 9:32 p.m.
dude_abides said...

If you insult other people, like they did, you should be sure not make a rolando out of yourself. That's all I'm trying to say.

May 25, 2011 at 9:36 p.m.

"Real peace is not merely the absence of conflict; it is the presence of justice." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Chet, I'm so disappointed. How could you let them get by with attributing Dr. King's wisdom to Harrison Ford's script writer?

May 25, 2011 at 9:37 p.m.
tderng said...

well MTJohn if the Palestinians homeland was in Israel I would say yes.But since Palestinians did not ever have a city or land of their own I have to say that they should look to their Muslim "friends" for a land of their own.None of the Muslim nations cared about the Palestinians before Israel became a nation.There is absolutely no proof that the Palestinians ever lived in the Israeli area,although there is a lot of archeological proof that the Jews did.

May 25, 2011 at 10:52 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

BigRidgePatriot said: "I don't get that perspective. If a foreign government, say Cuba or Venezuela, was lobbing crude but occasionally effective rockets into the US I would expect our Commander and Chief to send the full might of the US armed forces down there and deal with the problem in a very forceful way. Israel looks pretty patient and forgiving as far as I can see."

Maybe, you don’t understand the perspective because you opt to live in your own little world, BRP. There are a number of things occurring in Israel that have nothing to do with crude rockets. Fortunately, there are individuals and human rights organizations who are bringing issues like the destruction of Israel's Bedouin village to the attention of the public.

Plight of Israel's Negev Bedouin Citizens: A Project of Rabbis for Human Rights-North America and the Jewish Alliance for Change.

Background: "A large Israeli police force, accompanied by bulldozers from the Israel Land Administration, demolished the Negev Bedouin village of Al-Arakib for the 9th and 10th times on January 16 and 17th, destroying the temporary homes constructed by the village residents since the previous demolition. The Israeli Police shot unarmed residents with rubber bullets and beat them with batons; eleven people were injured, five of whom required hospitalization. . .

Our coalition of Israeli and American Jewish organizations calls on the Israeli Government, the ILA, the JNF in Israel (KKL) and JNF-US to end their efforts to expel the 300 Bedouin women, men and children of Al-Arakib and to replace their village with a JNF forest. We urge them to negotiate a just and mutually agreeable solution to the plight of the 190,000 Negev Bedouin, Israel’s poorest and most disadvantaged minority – half of whom live in “unrecognized villages” without electricity, running water, sewage disposal, schools or health clinics, and with the constant fear of demolition and expulsion.

We condemn the JNF for its complicity in displacing Bedouin citizens of Israel from their homes and land to make way for forests and new Jewish-only communities in their place. The Bedouin have no comparable opportunities to create new agricultural or livable communities. They are being forced to leave their homes, lands and way of life for overcrowded urban centers plagued by crime, unemployment and despair.

We believe in an Israel where Jews live in partnership and equality with their Bedouin and other Arab and Palestinian neighbors, the basis for trust and peaceful coexistence. The Israel of the JNF, the ILA and the Israeli Government is one where Bedouin Arabs are displaced and discriminated against so that forests and exclusively Jewish communities funded by Jews and Evangelical Christians can be built, preventing Bedouin Israelis from ever returning to their land. . . "

http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/campaigns/no-more-demolished-villages

May 25, 2011 at 11:03 p.m.
rolando said...

No, what you are trying to say, dude, is you are a grammer/spelling [sic] snob.

You are doing a good job demonstrating it.

The purpose of language is communication. Which part did you fail to perceive, spelling/grammer [ditto] and all?

So why make such a big deal of grammetic/spelling [ditto2] errors? Did you understand them or not?

May 25, 2011 at 11:23 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

WhatsWrongWithTheWorld said: "Chet, I'm so disappointed. How could you let them get by with attributing Dr. King's wisdom to Harrison Ford's script writer?"

It’s a great quote so I’m sure Woody will be pleased to know its original source, WWWTW. But why did you opt to taunt Chet about it instead of passing along the info to Woody directly?

May 25, 2011 at 11:29 p.m.
rolando said...

In other words, mtngrl, let the Israelis develop the country so a bunch of tent-dwelling, semi-barbaric nomads without a fixed address can wreak havoc as they pass through.

Hm-m-m. Sounds a lot like some of our illegals here...

May 25, 2011 at 11:33 p.m.
rolando said...

Because chet is so easy, perhaps?? Plus there is a bit of difference between mis-attributing a quote and giving false credit to a lousy, fifty-cents-a-dozen script-writer, for God's sake.

May 25, 2011 at 11:36 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Do you really not see the irony of someone calling another person a loser and misspelling the word? It's comical. So, pretty close is okay for communicating in your world? I hope my doctor doesn't feel that way.

May 26, 2011 at 12:11 a.m.
rolando said...

Hint: Your doctor is not the one failing to communicate...it is a two way street and you must be able to comprehend what the speaker is saying.

So...with all the uproar you have caused over a simple mispelled [sic] word, you obviously failed to understand what the rest of us clearly understood.

May 26, 2011 at 5:35 a.m.
MTJohn said...

tderng - Some Israelis and their supporters have a peculiar way of re-writing history and ignoring Old Testament texts for the purpose of serving their selfish interests.

May 26, 2011 at 6:28 a.m.

"Without justice, there can be no peace. He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it." Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

May 26, 2011 at 10:38 p.m.

“I didn't get my inspiration from Karl Marx; I got it from a man named Jesus, a Galilean saint who said he was anointed to heal the broken-hearted. He was anointed to deal with the problems of the poor. And that is where we get our inspiration.

“We have the power to change America and give a kind of new vitality to the religion of Jesus Christ. And we can get those young men and women who've lost faith in the church to see that Jesus was a serious man precisely because he was concerned about their problems. The greatest revolutionary that history has ever known”

Source? Anyone?

May 26, 2011 at 10:41 p.m.
chet123 said...

wwwtw....you are so right...people think they are automatically save because they have been baptized....baptism doesnt regenerate the soul of man....peacher need to tell people the truth......a true christian...pattern his/her life after the life of Christ.....How can you know how Christ live if one doesnt read the Gospel....the beatitude is Christ Sermon...how many people take it to heart...You must understand Christ biggest opposition were religous leaders...not the sinner in the street....today America is drowning with False Prophets....and false teachers.....they own the air waves(sadly to say..sometime backed by rich people and poor people with their personal agenda).....so when we see other religous moving into America..this is because they see fertile ground....if Christian dont go back to the truth teaching of CHRIST...we will loose this battle because we lost our witnessing power

May 29, 2011 at 5 p.m.
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