published Wednesday, November 2nd, 2011

The Arrest

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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NGAdad said...

Tom Brokaw was just on Charlie Rose asking what OWS's 'end game' is. I think you nailed it Clay... maybe someone should look for who stole our treasure, crikey those pirates. I say a blindfold, zip ties, and the plank. Well, maybe one last bonus - 100 dollars worth of pennies in their pockets

November 2, 2011 at 12:42 a.m.
onetinsoldier said...

Had wall street been allowed to collapse as it should have in 2008 we could have just swept up the jumpers up off of the street. It will collapse, and when it finally does we may finally see some justice and real reform. Wallstreet this very day is manipulating wild swings for profit. They are using YOUR money to sell you SHORT. Been out since 2000 and never regretted it when I got out the market was at the same level it is today 11 years later.

November 2, 2011 at 1:27 a.m.
EaTn said...

Basically, the OWS and other concerned groups will have to to lead the country to cleanup the mess that Bush then later Obama created with the massive wasted WS giveaway and rich tax breaks which further increased the wealth gap. To achieve this will require that those currently being shafted stop partisan bickering and start cooperating.

November 2, 2011 at 7:23 a.m.
mystyre said...

"...and justice for some" -Lisa Simpson

November 2, 2011 at 8:04 a.m.
biofish said...

This cartoon is perfect.. The police are so busy with the OWS that our crime is getting out of hand. Thanks OWS.

November 2, 2011 at 8:16 a.m.
inthemiddle said...

What I did on fall break...

November 2, 2011 at 8:30 a.m.
riverman said...

Actually one of Bennett's few cartoons that paints a realistic picture. Why are James Johnson, Franklin Raines, Barney Frank(and his boyfriend Herb Moses), Angelo Mozilo, Robert Rubin and others not in jail?

November 2, 2011 at 8:43 a.m.
mymy said...

Fannie and Freddie where's the raqe for that?

You and I, the taxpayers, will be rewarding such failure of 10 executives with $12.79 million in bonuses this year.

November 2, 2011 at 8:54 a.m.
GreenKepi said...

I’m puzzled. Can any of you protesters articulate some strongly held belief or viewpoint of some kind? What do you actually want to accomplish? What’s an actual thing you’d like to change?

Of course, I too agree that our society needs reforming! Our political system is a nauseating farce. Economy is a mess. Two senseless wars are still underway, and we have no strategy to end them…except ‘cut and run’. Our leaders keep letting us down BOTH republicans and democrats. But…I keep asking - what do you guys want?

So far all I hear is an anti-capitalist philosophy. I see people opposed to our economic structure and calling for a new system for America. But what system, based on the signs I see at your occupations will it be: socialism, fascism or communism?

I think I understand you being mad that 1 percent of Americans have 35 % of the country's wealth. What do you want? Some of that wealth and will remain mad until you get it?

I hear arguments being used that are borderline ridiculous. Wall Street greed and main street envy are both to blame.

I think this all is summed up by the following statement:

"You can not help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by destroying man's initiative and independence. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they can and should do for themselves." - William John Henry Boetcker.

November 2, 2011 at 9:01 a.m.
MTJohn said...

GreenKepi said...

I’m puzzled. Can any of you protesters articulate some strongly held belief or viewpoint of some kind?

Yes. Greed is NOT good.

November 2, 2011 at 9:07 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Clay's president and his cabinet were going to c lean up the mess when they came to power. But they've botched things so bad the only thing they can fight for now is to stay in power. And when he's elected again, he'll be a lame duck for four years. That's no progress either. Unfortunately it doesn't matter who's in power, they will be corrupted by corporationitis. There will always be the suited haves and grubby have nots (and those in the OWS that have but pretend to be have nots to join the mob). God, where's Darryl Hannah when you need her?

November 2, 2011 at 9:18 a.m.

Go ahead Clay. Name the laws broken by Wall Street. We'll wait for your answer.

Such misguided and lost souls (Clay and the OWS).

November 2, 2011 at 9:31 a.m.

The bearded guy looks like Clay.

Good point riverman and mymy

Very true, bookie, name the laws broken? Obama is both backing this bunch and taking money from Wall Street. That's your man of the people for you!

November 2, 2011 at 9:57 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

While The Wart worries about the poor misdirected OWS protestors (where is that bum’s bag of feces?) the government continues to facilitate the atrocities being carried out by Wall Street and the Fed. Until the focus is put in the right place (Obama, Congress, Frank, Dodds) nothing is going to get done. The ONLY presidential candidate willing to take on the real problem is Ron Paul and the establishment is doing everything possible to drown out or ignore his message.

November 2, 2011 at 10:04 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

blondebutnotdumb said... "The bearded guy looks like Clay"

I think we just figured out where The Wart was last week. I wonder if he brought his bag back for a souvenir.

November 2, 2011 at 10:06 a.m.
limric said...

"Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal." (Martin Luther King, Jr.)

Today we are GOVERNED, not represented. We are to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, X rayed, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded - by people who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so.

Our every operation, every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed or corrected. It is under pretext of public security, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under involuntary contribution, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, arrested, judged, condemned and betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged or dishonored. That is our government today; that is its justice; that is its 21st century morality.

The violence is one-sided, the one side being those who hold the monopoly on force: the police. It is naive to presume that the police will in any way refrain from using that force, to presume that their decision to use unprovoked attacks has anything whatsoever to do with ‘law’. The violence does not just ‘break out’ -- it is provoked and the police have proven to be provocateurs. Those protesting are exercising their right to do so, no matter whether a "law" permits it. There is no such thing as ‘lawful assembly’. It is our birthright, and any orders requiring there be ‘lawful assembly’ for those exercising their Constitutional Right to do so are neither legitimate nor lawful.

"Laws are cobwebs for the rich and chains of steel for the poor." (August Spies)

The Revolution Will be Televised

November 2, 2011 at 10:19 a.m.
limric said...

BRP,

With the exception of "While The Wart worries about the poor misdirected OWS protestors (where is that bum’s bag of feces?), your 10:04 post is absolutely correct.

November 2, 2011 at 10:32 a.m.
EaTn said...

While both we lefties and you nighties are playing tug of war, Wall Street and political friends keep playing "cha-ching" with the cash register. The problem is they have the cash to keep pushing their propaganda and maintain turmoil between both parties.

November 2, 2011 at 11:03 a.m.
limric said...

Ok bookieturnersghost, You asked "Name the laws broken by Wall Street."

How about fraud.

Packaging junk mortgages into mortgage-backed securities that were then magically rated AAA (fraud #1), and then, while knowing full well that these mortgage-backed securities were going to tank, not only encouraging their customers to load up on them, but surreptitiously shorting them in anticipation of their collapse (fraud #2). And that’s JUST Goldman Sachs!

No bookieturnersghost, the misguided and lost souls are those facilitating the continuation of the status quo - servile automaton’s to corporate propaganda. The liberties and freedoms bestowed by a generation of intellectual giants have been largely lost in a groupthink of fatuous avarice.

November 2, 2011 at 11:09 a.m.
MTJohn said...

BigRidgePatriot said...the government continues to facilitate the atrocities being carried out by Wall Street and the Fed. Until the focus is put in the right place...

BRP - you are correct in your diagnosis, except that you are only talking about the symptoms. At the same time, you keep advocating for the interests of those who would benefit by perpetuating the disease. The problem is NOT our government - the problem is those who own our government. And, in case you hadn't noticed, those are the folks in the shadows in today's cartoon.

November 2, 2011 at 11:13 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

limric,

Until the OWS crowd starts camping out on the Whitehouse lawn and Capitol Hill you are going to have a hard time convincing me that they know where to go to apply the pressure that needs to be applied.

November 2, 2011 at 11:20 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

MTJohn said... "The problem is NOT our government - the problem is those who own our government. And, in case you hadn't noticed, those are the folks in the shadows in today's cartoon"

This is the pivotal point where you guys lose me! If the government had not advocated their responsibility and sold their influence to the global financial system they would be controlling the problem and not participating in it.

I expect there to be nefarious influences in the financial sector. I also expect the government to protect us from those influences (how naive?). If the government lets self-interested bankers run wild we can expect the type of situation we are facing today. Unfortunately, our government has been seduced by the dark side and is pursuing their own interests, not ours. I cannot begin to comprehend how you can let them off the hook and seem to think they are powerless to avoid the bribes.

If you are really serious about stopping the insanity you would register as a Republican and vote in the Republican primary for Ron Paul. He refuses to be bought, unlike every other Presidential candidate.

November 2, 2011 at 11:32 a.m.
limric said...

BRP,

Remember your: “Occupy Washinton & Wall Street? OWWS”? It’s great idea. Add to OWWS the melding of the Tea Party and we’ve really got something.

MTJohn also makes a very good point,” The problem is NOT our government - the problem is those who own our government.”

No one I know of is advocating " letting them (Washington) off the hook and seem to think they are powerless to avoid the bribes." Most of the people at OWS I spoke to (that includes me)would like nothing more than to see certain members of the house,senate and administration do the perp walk on national Television.

By George BRP, I think you're getting it. Even though you'd hate to admit it.

November 2, 2011 at 11:33 a.m.
EaTn said...

The news today says that the Oakland OWS is forming plans for picket and strikes. Hitting the corporate and political bottom lines will be the most effective way to get proper attention.

November 2, 2011 at 11:37 a.m.
nucanuck said...

" What do you guys want?"

The wider the income disparity, the weaker the society. It doesn't matter how we achieve it, but healthy societies, like the US in the middle of the last century, all have less income difference than the US at present.

Almost every societal ill is exacerbated by economic disparity.

November 2, 2011 at 11:40 a.m.
potcat said...

Limric, your 10:19 post is so right on, i am in awe! Keep up the good fight, we need your brains and the talent to write it down. Been watching the channel IFC and The Onion News Report, love it!! It comes on next at 4 AM in the morning, about the time i get up.

November 2, 2011 at 11:55 a.m.
MTJohn said...

BigRidgePatriot said...This is the pivotal point where you guys lose me! If the government had not advocated their responsibility and sold their influence to the global financial system they would be controlling the problem and not participating in it.

The government did NOT sell influence to the global financial system. Individual politicians - lot of individual politicians - sold their influence to the global financial system. And,those who did so, are now working for the interests of that system, not for the interests of their constituents.

As a footnote, if you think "9-9-9", "Cut-Balance-Grow" or any of the other R candidate tax proposals would put the interests of the American people ahead of the global financial system, you might as well advocate flat-earth to go along with your commitment to flat tax.

As a second footnote, if you don't like the way things currently operate, the first intelligent step to begin fixing the problem would be to stop voting for politicians who would sell you out to the global financial system. That, by the way, would include perps in both parties.

November 2, 2011 at 11:58 a.m.

Wall street does not own the government. Wall street owns corrupt politicians. Our governmental structure is owned by us. The fact that getting elected revolves around how much money you can raise and how much dirt you can hide. The fact that we are collectively stupid enough to continue to elect politicians to govern us hints at collective insanity. We should elect good, honest people. We should fund their time on television and the radio by shifting money from entitlement programs. And we should rid our country of the real problem, the fed. We can print our own money. We don't need to empower a private corporation to do it for us. We have given it the power to singlehandedly destroy the entire world's economy through fiat policy. That is how we got where we are now.

November 2, 2011 at 12:48 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

OK guys. Do you really think strikes and demonstrations against "Wall Street" are going to change a thing? OR, is it going to take the disassembly of the financial monopolies, elimination of Fannie and Freddie and the reigning in of the Fed? Who is going to do that? The bum pictured in The Wart’s cartoon?

You make it sound like government is helpless to do anything! They sure enough have done their part to create the problem! They took the dollar off the gold standard and created the Fed. They subsidized and bailed out banks that were "too big to fail" instead of breaking them up into a bunch of smaller banks that would be too small to exert undue influence on the government. They refuse to enact any real reform and instead come up with thousands upon thousands of pages of meaningless rules and regulations that seem to only drive up costs. They actually encouraged irresponsible lending and created the housing bubble. They created government sponsored mortgage companies to collect the bad paper and saddle the tax payer with the problem. They look the other way as the Fed prints trillions and trillions of dollars and devalues our wealth. They allow the creation of financial instruments that allow institutions to bet against the market and then pull the trigger to cause their bet to win. They exempt themselves from insider trading... You would have a hard time finding anyone in Congress who as seen their wealth hit by the chaos! Do you ever wonder why? What has happened to the net worth of Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Obama, Frank and Dodds while the average Joe watches his savings gutted?

Are you people blind?

November 2, 2011 at 12:57 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

FlyingPurpleSheepleEater said... "The fact that we are collectively stupid enough to continue to elect politicians to govern us hints at collective insanity"

If Romney gets nominated we will be forced once again to choose between the best of two evils. Ron Paul is the only candidate willing to confront the problem head on. Fixing the problem will not be fun, the necessary corrections will have to happen, but continuing to build the house of cards will only make the final reckoning more severe.

November 2, 2011 at 1:02 p.m.
miraweb said...

I can't speak about every case, but I do know that I just received a settlement letter from my former mortgage company after our state Attorney General sued them for writing fraudulent mortgage deals.

Another 14 big lenders are now putting together reviews-on-demand processes nationwide to compensate and settle fraudulent foreclosure proceedings.

Fraud is still against the law. Clay has nailed it. Why are the cops so worried about picking up protesters for being in the parks after dusk (which is probably not constitutional because of First Amendment protection) but we see so little action on those who robbed a nation of its security?

We know Europe could spark a second financial crisis in the next few months. The financial industry has so few friends left, I hope they saved a little for the next crisis.

November 2, 2011 at 1:46 p.m.
BobMKE said...

I’ve posted before that what the OWS’s are doing will turn off the voting public. I bet the people who came out supporting them now wish they kept their mouths shut. Next election all the GOP has to do is run advertisements/videos on their antics.

Just today the leader of the Steel Workers Union is supporting them and said they should take it one step further and block traffic and bridges. The N.Y.Daily News is reporting that the free clinics in N.Y. are being overrun with the protesters coming in for STD problems. The staffs at the clinics can’t keep up with the amount of protesters coming in for treatment. In Montana a drunken 11 year old protester was arrested along with his parents. In New Hampshire a 24-year-old protester was arrested for pimping out a 16-year-old girl at the site. So far 2,177 protesters have been arrested. The above is just recent and not counting all of the thefts and other crimes going on. Compare the stinking, urine/feces sites with the sites after the Tea Party left, which were all picked up and clean. So in November of 2012, when you are voting, are you liberals/socialists/progressives/statists/communists going to give fist bumps and high fives to your fellow hippie anarchists?

November 2, 2011 at 1:51 p.m.

BRP,

please take all your conservative friends and make sure that Romney is NOT the candidate. Since the rest is a bunch of clowns this makes sure that Obama gets reelected!!!!

November 2, 2011 at 2:03 p.m.

BobMIKE, yes. Compare the OWS horde to the Tea Party rallies. My, Lord, what a difference!

I just read that the protests in Madison, WI were shut down beacuse the protesters were masturbating in public. Anything else? Urinating defecating, masturbating, using drugs, exposing themselves to kids, stealing, pimping, and so on.

Obama's loyal base.

November 2, 2011 at 2:04 p.m.
miraweb said...

This Marine impressed the hell out of me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmEHcO...!

November 2, 2011 at 2:17 p.m.
miraweb said...

Blond Ridge Patriot --

Nice try - but the standby "nuts and sluts" really isn't working when you have photos like the one below to contend with. That is a group of 100 veterans who joined OWS-NY this morning.

http://i.usatoday.net/news/gallery/2011/n111102occupyprotest/02occupy1102-pg-horizontal.jpg

November 2, 2011 at 2:26 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

miraweb said... "That is a group of 100 veterans who joined OWS-NY this morning"

Now that we know you value the opinion of our enlisted military so much...

Ron Paul leads all presidential candidates in active duty military campaign contributions. The last numbers reported show he is solidy beating Obama in military contributions. So, can Congressman Paul expect your support?

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/310783

November 2, 2011 at 2:46 p.m.

Blondanddumb wrotw

"I just read that the protests in Madison, WI were shut down beacuse the protesters were masturbating in public."

Well the tea-party guys could not have done that, since they are either to old for erections without viagra, or too fat to get a hold on their dick....

Blondie, I suggest you take an IQ-test and let either representatives fill out the test, and I bet you the difference will be huge, since the tea-baggers lost their brain in early childhood Bible-studies.....

November 2, 2011 at 2:53 p.m.
limric said...

BRP,

I think you took my comments to mean there is no corruption in the Govt.

Au contraire’, I (we) know that in the U.S., bribery is seldom called “corruption.” They have corrupted the very word bribery by referring to it as “lobbying”. Take for example the president, who has been utterly clear: he will not take money for his electoral campaign from lobbyists. Yea but: 15 of his top “bundlers,” who give their own money and solicit that of others are not none registered as federal lobbyists per se -- but are nevertheless “involved in lobbying for Washington consulting shops or private companies,” and they are raising millions for him. They also have access to the White House on policy matters. According to a report from the Center for Public Integrity, “President Obama granted plum jobs and appointments to almost 200 people who raised large sums for his [2008] presidential campaign, and his top fundraisers have won millions of dollars in federal contracts.” Prime example: President Obama’s 2012 campaign has a new senior adviser, Broderick Johnson of the lobbying firm Bryan Cave LLP — a former lobbyist for the company pushing the Keystone XL pipeline.

Obama devotees will of course say that he’s kept to his promise, as defined by a undecipherable labyrinth of lobbying legislation written by a Congress filled with -- future lobbyists. And keep in mind that Obama looks like Little Mary Sunshine compared to the field of Republican presidential candidates determined to campaign cheek to cheek with as many lobbyists as they can. More than 100 federal lobbyists have already contributed to Mitt Romney’s campaign. Rick Perry rose to his present status on the shoulders of Mike Toomey, a former chief of staff, friend, and money-raising lobbyist whose clients “have won $2 billion in Texas state government contracts since 2008.” And that’s just the tip of the top of the iceberg. Similarly, the government's top economic advisers regularly come from (and/or end up in/return to) the arms of banks and giant financial outfits, the very firms which pour money into political campaigns and are rewarded with bailouts. It’s but another version of the same cozy, well-organized world in which, for example, Robert Rubin (ptui) spun from Goldman Sachs into the government as Bill Clinton’s Secretary of the Treasury in the 1990s, then out again to Citigroup, which he then helped run into the ground until it too was bailed out on generous terms in November 2008.

See, I’m not blind.

November 2, 2011 at 3:30 p.m.
MTJohn said...

Blondbutnotdumb - if you were blond and smart, you would fact check your sources before repeating biased reports.

November 2, 2011 at 3:41 p.m.
miraweb said...

Both of my brothers have served as well as six of my first cousins. So far, all have returned home safe from multiple tours in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Unemployment for returning veterans is more than double the national rate. In every protest where there have been conflicts with the police, there have been veterans placing themselves between the police and the youngsters.

The only person seriously injured, so far, is a marine.

So, why wouldn't I take the veterans seriously?

Have you kids figured out this isn't a game, but that the entire country - right-left-and-middle is done with fooling around?

November 2, 2011 at 4:05 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

limric said... "See, I’m not blind"

Yes, I do see. Join the R3VOɺUTION and do something about it!

November 2, 2011 at 4:27 p.m.
limric said...

blondebutverydumb,

Honey, it’s plain that there is no factual inaccuracy or bizarre incident you won’t invoke to dismiss a movement you lack the mental tools to understand.

Try to edit your writing of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your vapid insight. The evidence that you’re being been pimped out by your favorite FOX news dominatrix will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly and get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you in a more timely fashion.

November 2, 2011 at 4:36 p.m.
miraweb said...

It is kind of cute that BRP wants to lay his daily efforts as a party hack on poor Ron Paul - but all those links back to TownHall might suggest another source of income.

Admittedly, Ron Paul seems to be only about 30% crazy, which is practically respectable in the current candidate field.

November 2, 2011 at 4:48 p.m.

Oh, the arrogance of the lefties on here. Sorry, the OWS horde is exactly what I say they are. The snobbery of those on this site who look down their noses at anyone who is not liberal or a Dem. is truly disgusting.

Pimped? Oh, Limric, you and the other leftists on here sound just like every other tired, left over hippie types from the 60's. We've all heard it before. You just parrot msnbc, cbs, nbc, abc, cnn, The New York Times. There's nothing new under the sun when it comes to you folks. Same old, same old stuff. Boring and scripted.

"mental tools to understand" I understand the concept of taking from one person who has earned it and giving it to someone who hasn't very well, it's called theft.

As long as the protesters don't bash Democrats equally, then they're not legitimate.

As far as their behavior goes, I've seen it all before at the zoo in the chimp cages. You know, playing with themselves, tossing their poop around, screaming and shaking their posteriors at everyone. A lot of mental tools at work their.

November 2, 2011 at 4:51 p.m.

Actually my IQ is quite high, Austrian. I wonder about yours, though. You come from a place where a demagogue and a dictator had his boot on the neck of your ancestors not so long ago, yet you have no problem with supporting big oppressive governments and dictatorial types.

One sign of intelligence is learning from mistakes. What does that say about you? You know, history? Dumb dumb. I guess dummkopf is more appropriate.

November 2, 2011 at 5:06 p.m.
miraweb said...

A Blond Ridge Patriot, Donald P Hodel, and Ron Paul walk into a bar. Which one doesn't belong?

Donald P Hodel just happens to be a board member for the organization that sponsors TownHall.com and also the CEO of Focus on the Family.

In his spare time, the sits on the board of Eagle Publications, a GOP media arm. He worked in the Reagan and also George H.W. Bush administrations. His day job, apparently not a very demanding position, is Chairman of Summit Power.

The CEO of Summit Power, Earl Gjeide, also worked in the Reagan administration and is on the board of the U.S. Energy Association.

Oddly enough, he started out at Waste Management (yeah - the rubbish people)

Poor Ron Paul. He deserves a lot better.

http://www.eaglepub.com/ http://www.summitpower.com/about/principals/

November 2, 2011 at 5:17 p.m.
MTJohn said...

Blondbutnotdumb - Occupy Madison was not shut down because some of the protestors were masturbating in public. Yes, there were allegations that such behavior occurred. However, the permit expired and Occupy Madison chose to not submit an application to renew their permit.

November 2, 2011 at 5:18 p.m.

Blondie

You are like Perry. The more you talk (or write) the dumber you sound, and I suppose you dont even realize it....

November 2, 2011 at 5:25 p.m.
fairmon said...

The first amendment doesn't suggest any individual or group of individuals can occupy and control any parcel of publicly or privately owned property or that they can interfere with normal access and use by others. It does not say current laws must be changed or not enforced to allow disruptive behavior by a few. t is obvious most of the OWS group doesn't have a clue what they want to change to what.

November 2, 2011 at 5:53 p.m.
jesse said...

hey austrian,the more you talk the more you show what an a$$ you are! you CAN disagree and still be civil!

i thought you went back home anyhow,so you didn't have to associate w/all us dumb butts!!

November 2, 2011 at 5:55 p.m.

Jesse,

Why should sheer stupidity be in any way answered with any kind of civility??

It is not even worth the effort and in any case a waste of time...

November 2, 2011 at 6:11 p.m.
miraweb said...

When the First Amendment overrules other laws does depend on the context. This is why it is legal to evict a homeless man from a public park, but incredibly difficulty to ban the Westboro Baptist Church from their wacked out picketing in military cemetaries.

Political speech is the most highly protected type of speech we have.

It would be very hard to make a case that would stick that we have an interest in protecting political speech from dawn to dusk but that right goes away when the sun goes down.

To their credit, many of the protesters are working with local neighborhoods to take care of the trash, bathroom facilities, and keeping the drumming down late at night.

However, moving them off public property is harder than it looks and has many ramifications.

November 2, 2011 at 6:15 p.m.
limric said...

Quote: "A lot of mental tools at work their."

"leftists on here - giving it to someone who hasn't very well here"

C'mon sweety. You've got to get flats. Your high heeled attitude has tripped you up once again.

The actuality of reality (I made that slush up) is the snobbery of those on this site look down their noses at anyone that lack the mental tools to understand. Your tool box is empty.

You post are fun though. Good night and good luck.

November 2, 2011 at 7:25 p.m.
DarkSky said...

There must be something in my drinking water. BRP is making sense today. I agree with 99% of his 12:57 pm post. But OWS is not all bums.

I'm thinking BRP, Limric, Miraweb, MTJohn, all have a firm grasp on what the problems are right now with American politics, the economy, current laws/loopholes, and the politicians who are owned/rented.

Now, if we can get the stink and tarnish out of Washington DC, maybe the U.S.A. can shine again! I still think we need term limits in Congress.

November 2, 2011 at 8:11 p.m.
dude_abides said...

I believe that blondie has the right to express her opinions here. I believe that blondie cares about our country enough to get involved. I know, however, that blondie is not above telling a lie to come across as a middle of the road type that voted for Obama and then became disenchanted with him. Nobody that holds the "to-the-right -of-Ann-Coulter" views she espouses w/r/t every subject she posts on, or has the strongly negative opinions she expresses about those on the left, would have voted for Obama in the last election. Until she admits that she made that little tidbit up to portray herself as an open minded centrist I will look at all her posts with disdain. "Her man" Cain is the one who should be drinking right now, not "Loose Rick" Perry. GOD what a spectacle Perry was in NH. I could not believe what I was seeing! Another way he's similar to Bush. The republican party will be nominating a Presidential candidate this year, not with delegates, but through attrition!

November 2, 2011 at 8:12 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

miraweb said... "A Blond Ridge Patriot, Donald P Hodel, and Ron Paul walk into a bar. Which one doesn't belong?"

Donald P Hodel.

Ron Paul, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, John Huntsman and Rick Santorum walk into a room. Which one does not belong?

November 2, 2011 at 9:51 p.m.
Randall said...

Make Love not Work! That's the motto of OWS.

November 2, 2011 at 10:51 p.m.
fairmon said...

miraweb said....

It would be very hard to make a case that would stick that we have an interest in protecting political speech from dawn to dusk but that right goes away when the sun goes down.

making political statements all night is ok but where is not necessarily ok. How much should the 99% not participating have to pay for police, sanitation and other cost generated by the 1% so they can camp out and have a party? There is a difference from city to city but mob behavior and vandalism is not a protected right.

November 2, 2011 at 10:53 p.m.
fairmon said...

I would pay top dollar to see an extended head to head debate between Obama and Gingrich where they ask each other questions covering all issues.

November 2, 2011 at 10:59 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

harp3339 said... I would pay top dollar to see an extended head to head debate between Obama and Gingrich where they ask each other questions covering all issues.

Obama would NEVER agree to that. Gingrich would eat him alive.

November 2, 2011 at 11:10 p.m.
fairmon said...

BRP said....

Obama would NEVER agree to that. Gingrich would eat him alive.

No doubt he would as would one or two others like Ron Paul but not as convincingly as Gingrich.

November 2, 2011 at 11:27 p.m.
ArnoldZiffel said...

BO couldn't win a REAL debate if his life depended on it. He'd be stammering, pausing, repeating himself, getting angry and for sure talking over the person he's debating. The rumors of his intelligence are GREATLY exagerated!! Take away the his teleprompter and he's babbling idiot.

November 3, 2011 at 3:19 a.m.
ArnoldZiffel said...

Clay Bennett is an old hippie who still craves the 1960's. Loser.

November 3, 2011 at 4:27 a.m.
MTJohn said...

ArnoldZiffel said...

Clay Bennett is an old hippie who still craves the 1960's. Loser.

Except for the war in Vietnam, America was living closer to its ideal in the '60's than it is today.

November 3, 2011 at 11:23 a.m.
chet123 said...

GINGRICH...has his own problems with tiffany, walking out on his wife adultery....gingrich may impress you guys at the barber shop....but gingrich would get his georgia clock clean by Obama....Gingrich can use his time explaining why he push NAFTA...this bozo sent out america jobs over seas..hes responsible for the loss of millions of american jobs.....Gingrich was the speaker of the house....His own party ran him off HA HA HA...Maybe he make an impression on backward uneducated people like HARP and BIGRIDGEPAT. But Gingrich couldnt win a debate with me ha ha ha .the man is an idiot..sure he feed you hater red meat like calling the president kenya born...you hater love that...DONT YOU!!!We all know what GINGRICH says when he think the camera not around ha ha a lot of lies ha ha.GINGRICH is a wash-up grumpy old man...GINGRICH have too much baggage ha ha ha SORRY FELLOWS!!!!

November 3, 2011 at 7:56 p.m.
chet123 said...

HEY HARP...I WOULD PAY YOUR TOP DOLLARS TO HEAR IT.. and see your face turn red ha ha ha ...

November 3, 2011 at 8:07 p.m.
chet123 said...

harp3339...it amazes me how you use the constitution to defend your point...but the constitution dont mean anything when you are trapping on other people right such as the fifteen amendement...voter right act of 1965....the republican states legislator attempt to suppress and disenfranchise a certain segment of voters thru voter ID LAW...eventhought there may be minumum collateral damage to republican party but max. collaterale damage to the opposition party which would result in giving the republican a big advantage(ect..most old people vote dem..also very young people who dont have driver license vote democratic...I DONT HEAR YOU CRYING ABOUT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS ON THOSE ISSUES ..HA HA HA ...do yourself a favor and stop watching FOX TV

November 3, 2011 at 9:27 p.m.
gregsbygibbs said...

Nice! I love cartoons ambiguous enough to get the point across! ;)

December 28, 2011 at 4:23 p.m.
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