published Wednesday, November 16th, 2011

Counter protester

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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lumpy said...

Maybe Bennett should be more accurate and have the ows guy squatting down and taking a dump on the street, or urinating, masturbating, exposing himself to children, raping, taking drugs, or threatening those who won't give them free food. Or, maybe stockpiling weapons.

And you Leftists made fun of the Tea Party.

The OWS bunch are 99% worthless.

November 16, 2011 at 12:18 a.m.
fairmon said...

When the media tires of them it will be over. The news media and the spot light is what they desire more than actual change in D.C.

November 16, 2011 at 1:20 a.m.
Yossarian25 said...

With two ignorant, unenlightened, bigoted, fox-news-fed opinions to start. I couldn't let it be three in a row... Some of the protesters may be misguided, but to completely dismiss their underlying messages is to have your head in the sand.

November 16, 2011 at 2:51 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

The first two posters are perfect examples of victims of the stupeying propaganda machine of the guy on the right in the cartoon. You two couldn't advertise your ignorance any more loud and clear than if you posted it on a billboard.

You are on the wrong side of history here, bubbas. It's gonna get a lot messier and uglier before it gets better but it WILL get better...in terms of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for ALL, not just the wealthy few. Your creed of greed and your notion of a self-centered freedom are outworn and impotent.

I have seen many of your previous comments and you claim to be lovers of capitalism but what we have to today is crony capitalism, not the capitalism that worked so well for the masses after WW2, for nearly 3 decades. You claim to abhor socialism but you accept and encourage the socialism for the bankers and the wealthy, where the money has been distributed upward for the last 30 years. You are clucking chickens defending the foxes as overlords of the chicken coop and you're oblivious to all their carnage because of your willful blindness and incessant clucking.

The (tea) party is over, the ranks of the 99% will only swell and not subside. The times they are a changin'

November 16, 2011 at 3:32 a.m.
fairmon said...

I admit I fail to see how OWS, CO and various areas in cities across the country will have any impact on an out of control congress that participates in insider trading, provides billions in tax payer funds to entities like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that supports their political agenda. They are approving 100 million dollars for the Fannies executives and say it is for their good performance? They keep subsidizing, incentivizing and legislating to accommodate those they favor at the expense of American workers. Why not converge on Washington D.C. and advocate replacing 100% of those in office? Why not demand that all laws passed also apply to congress? Why not advocate term limits and benefit limits to members of congress? Select a candidate, any candidate in either party, that supports the occupy agenda and get them elected. Camping out, carrying signs with a fragmented agenda and media camera time will fizzle out like the tea groups have. Neither party is acting in the best interest of the country and qualified Americans needing a decent job.

November 16, 2011 at 5:42 a.m.
Dumbledore403 said...

First of all thank you Rickaroo for your comments. I personally think that Occupy is the last best chance to get changes in peacefully where all will benefit....and I hate to think about the alternative.
And oh BTW Occupy got bigger without a whole lot of help from the press...and generally what news there has been has been in a negative light. Instead of trusting the news...Go see and talk with Occupy yourself. Have enough guts to disagree with them personally instead of hiding behind in the comments section.

November 16, 2011 at 7:27 a.m.
JustOneWoman said...

Lumpy, (gotta love the name), said "squatting down and taking a dump on the street, or urinating, masturbating, exposing himself to children, raping, taking drugs, or threatening those who won't give them free food. Or, maybe stockpiling weapons."

Surely, you see the irony here? It has been the right wing malitia that has been doing these things, as well as some greedy rich guys that think they can have anything they want, and you point the finger at the OWS!

Just keep listening to Saudi's Fox TV. Your opinions show that their money is being well spent in this country. It is like an abusive relationship. You want to believe them, so you do. It will only be when you can step away from the tv that you may be able to see the truth.

Oh I know, you wont believe any of this. But someday, it will hit you like a ton of bricks.

November 16, 2011 at 9:06 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Bennett is a broken record.

If he does not have anything new to say or at least a better way to say it he should consider staying in bed for the day and spare his cronies the effort of trying to find something to praise him for.

November 16, 2011 at 9:09 a.m.

It's good to see the socialists out in full force. It is called the pursuit of happiness for a reason. It implies you actually have to pursue it. I know. Work is scary, but you really have no right to money someone else worked for. Pursue your own happiness.

November 16, 2011 at 9:30 a.m.

Well then Rickaroo, let's just see how OWS changes the political direction and influences election outcomes. Then we can all come back here and compare their achievements to the Tea Party. Although, I don't expect Claydoh! to provide an accurate or open arena for discussion.

November 16, 2011 at 9:38 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Lumpy and Harp are spot on. Take up space, try to get your 15 minutes of fame, wait for police to come in so you can cry abuse and get the media to televise more. Lame ctcle repeated by deadbeats everywhere. You can take your homeless camps back to the alleys. Nobody cares anymore.

November 16, 2011 at 9:39 a.m.
limric said...

Wonderful posts Rickaroo, Harp3339, Dumbledore403, JustOneWoman & Yossarian25 (I love that moniker),

I have nothing but admiration for those who are in the streets and persist in the face of entrenched fascist hostility. This spirit cannot be subdued, it cannot be compromised, it cannot be bought off and it cannot be stopped. This is the same spirit that has toppled tyrants through the pages of history, including the British tyrants (which we have now replaced as No. 1 Imperialist of the world) I also cannot express enough the disgust I have for the armchair enablers and critics, who sneer and tacitly approve of abuse, chastising their fellow citizens for standing up to injustice. It is - “Stupefying”

For those who speak against this movement,

whose bottom line strives to help 99%.

Your excuses become superficial exclusions,

whether rich yourself or feeding greed’s discontent.

Freedom of speech is a fundamental right in America. Freedom to peaceably assemble is a kind of speech that is specifically protected in our Bill of Rights. Mayors and Governors and Presidents are just going to have to live with it. Does beating down and evicting by force such peaceable assemblies not violate a core spirit of the founders?

This movement is nothing short of America rediscovering the strength we hold when we come together as citizens (the Tea Party also) to take action to address crises that impact us all. Such a movement cannot be evicted. Politicians may physically remove them from public spaces – our spaces – and, physically, they may succeed. But they / we are engaged in a battle over ideas. That idea is that our political structures should serve US, the people – all of us, not just those who have amassed great wealth and power. This resonates with so many because all three branches of OUR government, completely beholden to Wall Street, have ignored the powerful stories pouring out from the homes and hearts of our neighbors, stories of unrelenting economic suffering. It’s a demand for a democracy in which we matter is why so many people have come to identify with Occupy Wall Street and the 99% movement.

You Can't Evict an Idea Whose Time has Come. The people are seeing this for themselves.

The Revolution Will be Televised (except on FOX)

November 16, 2011 at 9:43 a.m.
carlB said...

harp3339 said... I admit I fail to see how OWS, CO and various areas in cities across the country will have any impact on an out of control congress that participates in insider trading, provides billions in tax payer funds to entities like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that supports their political agenda. They are approving 100 million dollars for the Fannies executives and say it is for their good performance?


Reply to harp3339: harp3339, Thank you for mentioning the attitude of the elected "leaders" and where their interest is concentrated. This alone should make the voters who are living through the results of the "forced" class warfare or designed wage gaps from the free trade agreements resulting in the global economy effects. The "OWS" are doing some "forcing" to create discussions which are a means of informing the voters of who their elected Representatives are looking out for. When the voters are getting informed of the truth and we have the 2012 elections coming up, this does not make the people happy who are wanting keep the voters "dumbed down" with misinformation or what frauds they are trying to keep hidden.

November 16, 2011 at 9:57 a.m.

Come on Limric, everyone sees the real motivation these radicals have. They are following the Saul Alinski rules and the Cloward-Piven plan. They don't want liberty and justice for all. They don't want to pursue happiness. They are just trying to overwhelm the system and set up the stage for widespread riots and destruction.

The pall of hate and depravity hovering over them and the long list of evil organizations supporting them tells me all I need to know about their motivations. When all of the enemies of the United States are supporting your movement, you might be on the wrong side.

The List:http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2011/10/31/the-99-official-list-of-ows/

November 16, 2011 at 9:57 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

IGNORANCE IS BLISS

To all of you tea-bagging knot heads, don't worry. Be happy. You don't get it so don't trouble your tiny minds with trying to figure it out.

The OWS is just a visceral expression of frustration with our political system's institutionalized inequality. People are fed up with the rich but it has nothing to do with envy or jealousy.

People are fed up the with the 2% not paying their FAIR SHARE of taxes, shipping our jobs overseas, and stashing their profits in the Cayman Islands.

Just a chance to achieve the American Dream that doesn't begin and end with winning the Lottery.

Not free hand outs. That's what the rich get. Not a favorable tax rate. That's what the rich get.

You guys might have the money, but 99.8% of us have the votes.

All we need now is candidates who will campaign on OUR AGENDA: economic opportunity for all.

November 16, 2011 at 10:08 a.m.
Fire_Obama said...

OWS will end November 2012, when their function of trying to re-elect Obama has failed.

November 16, 2011 at 10:10 a.m.

Hey Nooga, it wasn't corporations that bailed out the corporations. It was the corrupt politicians that bailed them out. I am completely against bailouts for any corporations. Maybe the occupy protesters should protest in Washington D.C. The banks didn't hold congress at gunpoint to get bailed out...

November 16, 2011 at 10:11 a.m.

Fair? Maybe you should look that word up. Fairness is determined by math not some arbitrary philosophy of hate and class warfare. In all fairness I should receive the same handouts and benefits all of these welfare recipients get shouldn't I? Wouldn't that be fair? Is fairness like when the teacher said I couldn't chew gum in class unless I had enough for everyone? The fairness you are trying to push on everyone isn't fair at all. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need is not fair. It is communism. A flat tax would be fair. Everyone would be paying the exact same portion of his wealth. That is fair isn't it? Fairness isn't the variable you are trying to make it. Fairness is a constant. Progressive taxation schemes will never be fair. The rich already pay more than anyone else as a percentage of their income. Envy is ugly in all of it's forms. This class warfare is just envy and hate.

November 16, 2011 at 10:31 a.m.
limric said...

FlyingPurpleSheepleEater,

Nice try. I read through the list of supporters and their statements listed on the web site you supplied. Fortunately for the rest of us your reading comprehension skills aren’t so great, and your inability to winnow the wheat from the chaff is readily apparent. I suggest to all those (especially the cranky libtards) posting here to follow FPSE’s link. Witness the hyperbole. It’s pretty interesting. I think the only one left out was Elvis.

Oh, and just so’s ya know, Wall Street and the banks did figuratively hold Hank Paulson and the previous administration at gunpoint.

P.S. FPSE quote: “the occupy protesters should protest in Washington D.C.” To this, I am in complete agreement.

November 16, 2011 at 10:35 a.m.

blackwater48, I am not sure what bleak corner of hell you live in, but my wife and I live the american dream and we didn't get any handouts or breaks and we didn't even win the lottery. Neither of us was born rich or even middle class. Both of our families were poor. I will clue you in on the secret. We both worked hard and made good decisions. The man never stood on our backs keeping us down. This hell you live in must be China or Iran or some place like that.

November 16, 2011 at 10:36 a.m.
conservative said...

The depiction of the OWS protestor says a lot about how the left entices sheep ( sheep are dumb ) into their fold. He is modestly dressed, clean shaved and CLEAN, hair neatly trimed, no tattoos, no rings through the nose, lips, eyebrows, or ears, clothing not torn or wrinkled, quiet ( mouth closed ), conservative shoes ( starting to seethe on that one ), no profanity on sign, and no stench! Yep, just a typical OWS protestor.

November 16, 2011 at 10:37 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Funny how the Occupiers and their enablers (blackwater48, et. al) resort to the only thing they have left - (misguided) class warfare - when the econonmy under Obama tanks ans hard-working people scraping buy have to cut back their handouts to the deadbeats to take care of their own families. That's the real 80 percent, hard workers, tapped between the 1% super rich and the 19% deadbeats.

November 16, 2011 at 10:42 a.m.

Limric, You must be a speed reader with lightning fast internet to have read through all of the attributed links proving these organizations support the occupy crowd. Me thinks you are just talking about the main page.. Try following the links under each supporter and read what they have to say. It rounds the whole thing out nicely.

November 16, 2011 at 10:55 a.m.
Livn4life said...

It is truly amazing how there is about as much verification on one side of the running debates as the other. Yet the media tries to slant their OBVIOUS choice and arrogantly dismiss anyone with an alternative view. Many posters on here show their own stupidity by pretending only the right is involved in stupyfying propaganda when it obviously occurs from both ends. I guess all are equally ignorant in this country. Some are just more equally ignorant than others. Finally, I want the left to STOP WITH ALL THE TOLERANT demands when you tolerate only your own positions. So all sides are equally misled and this country continues with no real leadership. But we will hear the dueling(banjos)propaganda from both sides about how stupid the other is. It is a vicious circle and cycle. But then the award winning Drawboy needs to have something to stir up.

November 16, 2011 at 11 a.m.

If you want to make the same amount of money, become a CEO... It's that simple. You could start your own business or go to school and work your way up. What is stopping you?

November 16, 2011 at 11:17 a.m.
Fire_Obama said...

While we are on the subject of "executive compensation" Let's talk about the people who actually caused the housing bubble and crash... Fannie and Freddie (a quazi government agency) execs, after getting a bail out of 157 Billion from tax payers getting over 100 Million in executive bonuses. Details HERE Bush 43 tried to look into this but the Dem Congress / Senate would not allow any investigation into their pet projects.

November 16, 2011 at 11:21 a.m.
ibshame said...

whatnottaken wrote: "Funny how the Occupiers and their enablers (blackwater48, et. al) resort to the only thing they have left - (misguided) class warfare - when the econonmy under Obama tanks...."

The economy didn't tank under Obama it had already tanked before he even took the oath of office in Jan. 2009. Here's why: G.W. Bush started two unfunded wars, allowed Wall Street to run amok with people's retirement funds, and mortgages, Allowed banks to become "too big to fail" as a result of deregulation, initiated a TARP program to bail out those same banks, Cut taxes on the wealthiest in the country so there was less revenue but didn't cut spending and last but certainly not least took the surplus he was handed when he took office in 2001, the extremely low jobless rate and turned it all into an economy on the verge of a Depression to rival the one of the 1930's. Bush had a Republican Majority in both Houses of Congress until 2006. They spent money like drunken sailors on a 24hr shore leave.
Obama was as clueless about the real shape of this economy in 2008 as a person walking around a golf course not knowing the pretty green grass is really only a piece of green tarp put there to cover a large sinkhole. Yet Obama was expected to take the 8 years of waste of the Bush Administration and somehow make it all go away in less than four years. There's only one person who could have accomplished that feat in less than four years but he lived 2000 years ago and he was crucified for the miracles he did work.

November 16, 2011 at 11:32 a.m.

ishame, Go back and study the way the govt is organized. The executive branch doesn't have the power to accomplish any of that alone. I believe the congress and senate have far more to do with the above than the executive branch. Give credit where credit is due. Oh and while I agree Obama is and was clueless, he shouldn't have been. He was a senator before he rose to the presidency.

November 16, 2011 at 11:37 a.m.

So nooga, time to put up or shut up. You should follow your beliefs and give all of that money away. Why do you still have a net worth of 5 to 7 million? Why are you hording all of that money and why in the world did you take it from all of those poor people you had to have screwed to become so rich?

November 16, 2011 at 11:48 a.m.

I can even suggest a charity to give it to. The soup kitchen needs food and blankets. They also need money. They should be receiving a big donation from you soon right?

The children's advocacy center of hamilton county needs funds badly to help buy new equipment to serve physically and sexually abused children. Can you give them $30k or so?

Ronald McDonald house needs food and funds right now as well.

It is almost thanksgiving. The food bank is going to need tons of food to supply the poor in our area to help them have a good thanksgiving.

Divest yourself of that filthy lucre.

November 16, 2011 at 11:50 a.m.
Fire_Obama said...

Could put your money where your mouth is... just mail in a check of 7 Million directly to pay on the national debt.

Attn Dept G Bureau of the Public Debt P. O. Box 2188 Parkersburg, WV 26106-2188

Problem is, libs know better than anyone the more you send the Government the more they waste.

November 16, 2011 at 12:10 p.m.
lumpy said...

Yeah, whatever. I call it as I see it. Not one thing I said is not a fact. The 1% are really the political ruling class, like Pelosi, Obama, Dodd, Frank and many other Democrats, not to mention many Republicans who go along with them.

No, JustOneWomen, you have it wrong. Worthless leaches who want what others have worked hard for. That's what I see. It's just another stupid hippie movement. It's getting old.

November 16, 2011 at 12:14 p.m.

Some of the protesters may be misguided, but to completely dismiss their underlying messages is to have your head in the sand. sez yassahreeahn

why ta say 'sum' protisturs is fer shur nott tha trooth! yall seen tha videeos uv thos peeples en tha kamp fiten en beetin tha Po-lees! en it wernt tha Foxxes in tha hen-hows Noos thet seen an re-portted awl thet. it shor wuz abc an nbc an cnn an awl thos reel "gud" meedeeahs! o yah! theys jus tha bestist! hee!

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Smert ta raype smert ta skwat an pee smert ta blok tha bisnesses smert ta keeep otter Citusins frum wahkin an drivin an awl

yes mam smert lil ole commys an dedbeets. smert is az smert duz

yes mam theys jes dun a huuje fayvur fer tha hole wurld theys jes sawlvd AWL tha problims in tha US an in tha wurld! AWL tha gubbermint is goin ta chayje NOW! wooopee! wunder how? mebbe mor po-leesin an jayl fur tha peeples! why tha wuld bee jes wunderful now wuldnt it?!

November 16, 2011 at 12:17 p.m.
limric said...

Ohh kay FPSE,

Let’s review. From my earlier post: “I read through the list of supporters and their statements listed on the web site you supplied.” Ok?

They are just trying to overwhelm the system and set up the stage for widespread riots and destruction.” Bogus ‘uninfromed’ (that’s Tea Party spelling) misrepresentation.

The pall of hate and depravity hovering over them and the long list of evil organizations supporting them tells me all I need to know about their motivations. When all of the enemies of the United States are supporting your movement, you might be on the wrong side.” C’mon dude!!

Just who are the true enemies of the USA? Those that lie and send our children & grandchildren to Orwellian wars for profit? A runaway MIC? Those that perpetrated the biggest scam in history and got you to pay off their loses? Those bailout recipients that turned around and lent you YOUR own money at an interest rate higher than you charged them – and then gave themselves bonuses for causing the collapse of our economy? Corporations that outsourced the middle class? A Government that works hand in hand with those very same crooks to undermine everyones hard fought rights – to make the final destruction of the poor and middle class that much easier in the future?

Let them eat cake FlyingPurpleSheepleEater? Who will be on the wrong side history. Not me.


Well said Nooga. Your 11:42 post (and others) was right on and true to heart. I a applaud your stance.

November 16, 2011 at 12:18 p.m.

Limric, I agree. Our internal enemies are much more dangerous than the external ones, but that doesn't mean the external ones can be discounted. However, these occupy protests won't accomplish anything useful. Taking money from the 1% won't fix our problems. Class warfare and more entitlements aren't the cure either. We need to get politicians out of washington and put hard working, smart, freedom loving individuals in their place. Nothing else is going to help. We need to the damage they have wrought on the country reversed and the laws changed to prevent it from happening ever again.

November 16, 2011 at 12:34 p.m.
jesse said...

limric i hate to tell you this BUT you are flogging a dead horse!

they just don't get it and prob. never will!

November 16, 2011 at 12:44 p.m.
Walden said...

Is that the death knell of the Left I hear? Yes, I believe it is. The vitriolic hatred and covetous junk being spewed like bile from the Lefties on this comment thread gets more and more heated. It's over dreamers. Go home. And please, get a job.

And Clay, thank you for prolonging the negative exposure of OWS. Very few Americans relate with it's "message." So the longer it goes on, the worse it is going to impact Democrat politicians in the 2012 election cycle.

And here it comes, more hate...

November 16, 2011 at 12:57 p.m.

nooga, Do you even read what you write? I haven't heard any conservative talking about rich people giving the money back. It's the occupy movement that is talking about that. What are you saying when you talk about the rich paying their fair share? You are talking about taking the money from the rich and redistributing it Robin Hood style to the poor. You seem to be confused on who espouses what. It's the democrats like you and RINOs that hate the rich and want them to give all of the money back. "Enough is never enough for most of them" Sounds like any conservative talking about any wall streeter/democrat on taxes for the rich. You said all of your family are democrats. You all have no excuse for cheating people out of so much money that you accumulated 5-7 million. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

Nooga, way to show your ignorance again! I am not a republican. I am a constitionalist. There is very little difference between republicans and democrats. You may want to get down off your high horse for a few minutes, if you can tear you self away from MSNBC News and think a little before you open your mouth and remove all doubt.

November 16, 2011 at 1:07 p.m.
BigDonL said...

Here it is in plain English. Most wealthy republicans are wealthy because mommy or daddy gave them their wealth. Most wealthy Democrats earned their own wealth. Republicans are selfish because they were born with sliver spoons. They want to keep what they have because what they have is really not theirs. Democrats understand what its like to grow up and work for what they have. We don't mind sharing our money with those that need it. Simple and easy to understand.

November 16, 2011 at 1:13 p.m.

^^^ Hillarious ^^^

November 16, 2011 at 1:14 p.m.
conservative said...

Walden-- You might like my comment of 28 October

The OWS mob is a mixture of anti-Semitic, anti-American, anti-capitalist, druggies, anarchists, homeless, free love practitioners, spoiled immature college kids and malcontents in general. They will become more strident, disruptive, destructive and violent and even the sympathetic networks will have to back away. To my delight Obamination has endorsed them.

November 16, 2011 at 1:17 p.m.
lumpy said...

BigDonL, you're an idiot. Your post is garbage and full of it. My Dad was a lifelong Republican. He started with nothing and built a business from scratch. Shut your pie hole.

I just read that an OWS man masturbated in front of children. It also looks like scabies and ringworm are infesting the groups. How pathetic.

The police think an OWS moron in D.C. shot a bullet through a White House window. Yeah, this is helping you Democrats' cause.

My gosh, ever since Obama has been in office it's been like a bannana republic.

November 16, 2011 at 1:39 p.m.
BigDonL said...

Lumpy - the key phrase you said was "my dad". Republicans from 40 years ago are different than today's republicans. I'd take Reagan any day over the current crop of baffoons.

November 16, 2011 at 1:57 p.m.

nooga, What part of doing the same thing expecting a different result is stupid, don't you understand? If these people who are working their butts off to be poor want to change their situation, they should work to change it. No one is forcing them to work where they are working now. No one chose their occupation for them. They are responsible for their own lives. You obviously have some hatred for Fox. Why are democrats so full of hate?

November 16, 2011 at 2:21 p.m.
fairmon said...

The top celebrities averaged over $100 million per year. Are they in the same category as the top CEOs that averaged $20 million per year? What many don't realize is that a lot of the wealth people are attributed to having are assets that support the business they own. Tax them as much as desired it won't make a dent in the debt or deficit. Tax the business and their product gets more expensive or they reduce people to off set increased cost. Some elect to do business elsewhere if that is an option.

Government intervention and manipulation is destroying the economy. The beginning of the end started with Carter and both parties have continued his legacy. He was the first to emphasize the need to make it easier for those that could not afford a house to get one anyway. His metric was percent of Americans owning a house. Notice how quiet Barney Franks is on the Fannie and Freddie situation. Fannie and Freddie just requested another 15 billion which congress is likely to grant. Freddie and Fannie need to be phased out and the government get out of the housing business. The department of education and energy were established by Carter, both are ineffective and getting more expensive. HUD has good intentions but may be the most corrupt dysfunctional entity ever created. Congress, both parties, have abdicated their responsibility to departments and czars by empowering them to make laws by calling them something other than a law.

November 16, 2011 at 2:21 p.m.

Well said Harp.

November 16, 2011 at 2:23 p.m.
miraweb said...

Just repeating a number I passed along before OWS got started.

850,000 kids a year leaving school who will have no hope of getting any job of any kind. Houston, we still have a problem.

November 16, 2011 at 2:42 p.m.

My gosh, ever since Obama has been in office it's been like a bannana republic. mrLumpee

SosoSo troo! an funnee! wee is a reepubblik wit lotts an lotts uv bannannerz!

minni Americanns R-D-I ur wutevr hav wurkkd harrd-in da passt an now! an gott reech! ta say likey tha BeegDon sez-- Awl Reepublikans dis awl Reepublakins tha-stoopid is az stoopid duz mrBeegDon!

an meesturs hoo wach awl dem Lifteestas mee-duh-yas shos---an kwot tha Lif-teest Purvurtz awl da tyme= @$$**&&##$ EEVULL is az EEVULL duz

&&^%$# EEVULL raynes cuz Liebeeralls lett it happin!$$&&**%huck-eyenstiner

November 16, 2011 at 2:44 p.m.
Fire_Obama said...

Harp, Couldn't have said it better myself.

November 16, 2011 at 3:08 p.m.
mymy said...

The left is so dumb/ill-informed/hardheaded and look so stupid when they blame everything on the right. This is just one case.

Solyndra Case Reveals Gateway Between Administration Loans, Obama Allies

Peter Schweizer, author of the book, "Throw Them All Out," wrote that at least 10 members of Obama's finance committee and more than a dozen of his campaign bundlers took money from administration loan programs.

Schweizer told Fox News that he believes that many of those who were chosen to receive loan guarantees, were picked almost solely for their success in raising money for the Obama campaign.

Obama used the alternative energy program as an opportunity to make his campaign contributors "even more wealthy than they are," he said.

"This is a payoff to people who are your political backers and supporters. And this is really a wealth transfer from middle class taxpayers to billionaires," Schweizer said, adding that about 75 percent of the loans and grants doled out by the federal government has gone to "Obama-connected companies" even though the acceptance rate in the program is less than 10 percent.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/16/solyndra-case-reveals-gateway-between-administration-loans-obama-allies/#ixzz1dtzAm0Hw

November 16, 2011 at 3:41 p.m.

Here is a list from just TWO of the largest employers in Chattanooga.

Publicly listed jobs as of right now in Chattanooga:

UNUM

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November 16, 2011 at 4:27 p.m.

Shouldn't you as a CEO of a big company here in town be providing jobs for these college graduates instead of hoarding all of that money? The lists above were just from two large employers. Statistically, small businesses employ the bulk of the citizens in the USA. That list would be much longer.

November 16, 2011 at 4:31 p.m.

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November 16, 2011 at 5:05 p.m.

Nooga, so condescending in your ignorance. The date is when the job was posted and still hasn't been filled. None of them are reposts. They are all separate jobs. It took me all of 2 mins to find 60 jobs. Just admit it. You were wrong. There are lots of jobs out there. Qualifying for them is the problem. 15 not in this market? I only see 12 and they are close enough to be considered to be in this market. College graduates can't move two hours away to get a job? What's keeping them from it?

Why mention the fact that some of them would require an MBA? I thought we were talking about college graduates.. Did you change the subject without telling me?

You are looking more and more ignorant the more you post. Every time I prove you wrong you try to squirm your way out of it. If you are a CEO, you are one of the least intelligent I have ever conversed with. Your thinking is circular and your logic is flawed beyond belief. You can't seem to see the big picture or discern cause from effect. No, I don't believe you are a CEO at all.

November 16, 2011 at 5:20 p.m.
mtngrl said...

Most of the jobs you posted, especially the BSBC ones, are in the tech industry. This is actually an area that currently has low unemployment and qualified people can be hard to find.

College folks are not the only ones having problems finding jobs, and now that many service members are returning from Iraq and then Afghanistan there will be many more looking for jobs. Vets have an extremely high unemployment rate.

I did find it interesting in the CNBC debate for the "Stupefy" contenders they were asked what they would specifically do to create jobs other than give tax breaks... not one gave a single answer that included anything but tax breaks.

November 16, 2011 at 5:30 p.m.
conservative said...

Sheeple----

Well, you certainly are on your game today. However, how you can read much less understand some of these rambling, disjointed, incoherent novels is beyond me. Some have obviously fried their brains and live for conflict not solutions. I applaud you for smoking them out though.

November 16, 2011 at 5:34 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Nooga, you and limric and blackwater and a few others have had some excellent reality-based comments here but I have to agree with jesse when he told limric that he's just "flogging a dead horse" to engage in a mental tug-of-war with these teabagging dimwits. They are going to believe what they want to believe come hell or high water. Facts and common sense mean nothing to them. They are wedded to their anti-government, no-tax, no-regulation, gun-toting, Bible-thumping ideology and anyone who thinks even the slightest bit differently is evil socialist scum in their eyes. Your attempt to engage in debate with them is laudable and I respect your patience and perseverance but I pretty much consider these extreme right wing blowards akin to the walking dead. If they ever come around to seeing the whole picture for what it is, it will most likely be long after the dust has cleared from the revolution and they either have to join in the new society of people united in working together for the common good or get the hell out of Dodge and start their own Ayn Rand-worshiping commune on some island far, far away.

November 16, 2011 at 6:06 p.m.
carlB said...

blackwater48 said... IGNORANCE IS BLISS

Not free hand outs. That's what the rich get. Not a favorable tax rate. That's what the rich get.

You guys might have the money, but 99.8% of us have the votes.

All we need now is candidates who will campaign on OUR AGENDA: economic opportunity for all.

The OWS is just a visceral expression of frustration with our political system's institutionalized inequality. People are fed up with the rich but it has nothing to do with envy or jealousy.


Reply to blackwater48:

blackwater48, You make good points. It is strange how some people just cannot or do not want to realistically see the conditions as they are. It is as if they think the rich get money in some magical way. If we ask the questions of where the money really comes from whether the people on the receiving end are movie stars, sports players, money managers, or CEO's, etc then how many people spending or investing money does it take for a million dollars to "trickle up" to the people who have positioned themselves to be on the receiving end of the money? This is not new, but to have a Republic there has to be a proper balance of workers earning money which can be spent. If the money flow from the bottom up is shut off, how long will it take to "starve" the rich?

November 16, 2011 at 8:37 p.m.
acerigger said...

I’ve learned of a new scientific study indicating conservatives are borderline sociopaths:A new study finds that conservative moral judgements on several issues have a correlation with “dark and anti-social personality traits.” The study, from the University of Tampa’s Dr. Marcus Arvan, PhD in the journal Neuroethics found Machiavellianism (deception), narcissism (overinflated sense of self-worth), and psychopathy (absence of guilt or remorse) in conservative value judgements. Explains a lot.

November 16, 2011 at 10:03 p.m.
lumpy said...

Harp hits it out of the park again. 100% correct.

There hasn't been much difference between many Republicans and Democrats over the last 40 years or so. It took more than one party to get us to where we are now. But the first two years of Obama's "rule" was a Democrat Party created disaster. They own own it 100%.

The OWS protesters, for the most part, just want something to bitch about, and want something for nothing. Envy out the wazoo. Now they're armed and behaving like terrorists. I knew it would end like this. Obama has been fanning the class envy flames since he took office.

Why not protest the politcal class, movie stars, entertainers and spoiled athletes? Why are only CEO's the target mostly? The OWS protesters are being fed the crap the liberal media gives them. They have no idea what it takes to keep this economy going. I'll take a banker and a CEO any day over the walking brain dead out there taking a dump in the streets and screaming.

November 16, 2011 at 10:11 p.m.
limric said...

Only a coward orders arms against the First Amendment.

Wait for the surreal ending - and gasp.

November 17, 2011 at 4:34 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I feel for most of the police officers in this situation: they have to be the unpleasant face of the higher poo-bah's that decide to move in and clear the streets. Yes, I know that there are a few hard-core types that just love to break heads, but those guys looked pretty uncomfortable having to do this. Having family members that are cops, I don't want to label the police as the problem: they are following orders.

November 17, 2011 at 6:15 p.m.

The police aren't the problem. The protesters that do stupid things or decide they don't have to obey the law or want to camp out in a park semi-permanently for no really good reason. The right to assemble doesn't really cover camping or rape or crapping on police cars or any of the other stupid, rude or destructive things they have done.

November 18, 2011 at 12:07 p.m.
stanleyyelnats said...

The problem is perspective. Some people simply think beating up on Americans is OK.

Sort of like Tiananmen Square.

And Tahrir Square in Egypt.

Some people, what ever part of the world think beating up on the citizens is OK stuff!

November 19, 2011 at 4:32 p.m.
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