published Tuesday, November 22nd, 2011

Supercommittee

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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blackwater48 said...

THEIR LOGIC IS PURE

'Super committee' republicans demanded lower taxes for millionaires and bigger cuts to social security and medicare. It wasn't just a move to make the bush tax cuts permanent; republicans wanted to lower the rate on the highest incomes. In order to stay budget neutral, they wanted to privatize social security and turn medicare into a voucher program.

When democrat eventually said 'no,' (for once) republicans sprinted to microphones and TV cameras to blame democrats for failing to negotiate in good faith. (GOP good faith: give us everything we want and we'll call it even.)

And the 'liberal' media reported that talks broke down because neither side was willing to give in. That viewpoint is reflected in today's cartoon, too.

Congressional republicans have no desire to fashion any legislation to help the struggling U.S. economy. Their sole purpose in political life is blocking Obama and making him a one term president. An economy that stays in the toilet would go a long way toward achieving that goal.

Republicans are not interested in policy, economic or otherwise. They are locked into their rigid right-wing ideology which makes compromise, by definition, impossible.

Here's a glimpse into the mind of Tea bagger darling and would-be Environmental Protection Agency assassin Rand Paul. Senator Paul recently stood on the Senate floor and said that over the past 40 years there has been an increase in the reported cases of asthma. He then pointed out that 40 years ago President Nixon signed into law the Clear Air Act. The Senator was trying to make the case that cleaner air led to the rise of asthma. He stopped just short of saying breathing disorders could be cured by sucking on a tail pipe.

Such is the logic of Tea Bagger nation. They think they are absolutely right and everyone else is a traitor.

What chance did the super committee have in succeeding?

How can you negotiate in good faith with raving lunatics?

November 22, 2011 at 1:12 a.m.
fairmon said...

blackwater48....why don't you tell us how you really feel about the republicans. I agree with you regarding the republicans, the difference is I feel the same way about the democrats. I hope Obama sticks to his threat to veto any legislation attempting to weasel out of the automatic reductions and expiration of the Bush rates at the end of 2012. If all factors stay the same the reductions mean the annual deficit will be $1.58 trillion each year for ten years vs $1.7 trillion .......whoopee, what wonderful objective leaders we have. The national debt over ten years only grows to $31 trillion instead of ~$32.8 trillion. Is that an impressive piece of work or what? Heck, the interest on the debt shouldn't be much over $1 trillion. So what if that $1 trillion would give some relief to social security and medicare, no sweat, we will just keep borrowing and reduce coverage to fund medicare and adjust the social security ponzi scheme so three workers support one recipient.

November 22, 2011 at 1:53 a.m.
fairmon said...

Would those selfish greedy future generations want us to do without the finer things in life we have grown accustomed to? I bet they would expect those able to work and could to find a job and work instead of being government supported even if their income was less than they thought they were worth. No doubt they would insist on those over paid managers, athletes and entertainers paying a higher tax rate. Fortunately many of those that will have to pay for our excesses are not yet born and those that are have no idea what we are doing to them.

November 22, 2011 at 2:06 a.m.
onetinsoldier said...

I am glad they failed, this is the only way we will ever see a 600 billion dollar cut to the industrial military complex. The repugnants are out to collapse what is left of our Democracy. They have us all indentured for life to shore up the rich. I can't wait til baseball bats are allowed.

November 22, 2011 at 2:08 a.m.
fairmon said...

onetinsoldier said... I am glad they failed, this is the only way we will ever see a 600 billion dollar cut to the industrial military complex. The repugnants are out to collapse what is left of our Democracy. They have us all indentured for life to shore up the rich. I can't wait til baseball bats are allowed.

I agree but I don't limit it to one party. They are both determined to bankrupt the country. Who will be able to afford a baseball bat? I guess we can throw I-phones at those we think should be attacked.

November 22, 2011 at 2:17 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

The Super Committee was a joke from the get-go. On that 12-member committee were 6 Republicans who had signed pond scum Grover Norquist's treasonous pledge to never, under any circumstances, raise taxes. How could any serious brainstorming, negotiating, and compromising take place when half of the committee had already abrogated their oath to uphold the Constitution and work for the good of the country? Their unpatriotic and unethical pledge to that raving ego-maniacal twit, Grover Norquist, was far more important to them than their oath of office.

Every civilized nation in the history of the world has had taxes in some form. They are how we agree to help pay for the benefits that living in a civilized society affords us. Taxes in the U.S. are even sanctioned by our Constitution. They are not inherently evil, nor are they "stealing" from the people, as the teabaggers and libertarians like to complain. If you hate government so much and you don't want to pay taxes, move to Somalia and see how far your rugged individualism gets you there.

Herr Norquist and everybody who signed his nefarious pledge (there were even a few blue dog Dems who signed it) should be held accountable and stand trial for treason. I wish we could send 'em all to Somalia.

November 22, 2011 at 4:13 a.m.
woody said...

Fact One..Heroes are few and far between, always have been, always will be.

Fact Two..Super heroes are almost non-existent, except in the comics and on the silver screen.

Fact Three..Looking for true heroes, let alone the "Super" variety, to emerge from the Washington DC vicinity was an effort in futility from the start.

Just finding any number of politicians with 'backbones' intact would be a welcome discovery there..but don't hold your breath..Woody

November 22, 2011 at 5:57 a.m.
EaTn said...

The super committee is a micro of Washington which in turn reflects the division in the entire country. If it weren't for the lobbyists and other special interests keeping the country on autopilot, we would be totally out of control.

November 22, 2011 at 6:17 a.m.
MickeyRat said...

The wholly undemocratic, appointed committee of six Democrats idiots and six Republicans crooks, the “Super (Stupid)-Committee,” failed to reach an agreement that would have imposed untold hardship on the vast majority of those of us already struggling in a bad economy. If this inability to reach a terrible deal is “failure”, can you imagine what “success,” defined by this bunch of incompetents would have looked like?

You know, I believe in optimism and being positive, when it's thoroughly warranted and constructive. I'm also a believer in calling a spade a goddamn shovel. I just got through signing a petition to try to get the Traitorous, War-Mongering, Banker's/Bush's-Arse-Licking Republican Disaster Called Obama to make a statement and do something to stop the militarized 'police' from assaulting and pepper-spraying citizens who are expressing what they perhaps naively believe to be their rights. Sweet, bleeding, pole-vaulting, crucified Christ, you've got to strong-arm this a - hole you call a president into taking a stand against domestic violence against the citizenry when he's on record telling Egypt, et. al. that suppression of dissent and violence against protesters is undemocratic!! ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME!?!? The ONLY way we will get “political will” in this country is when at least 10 million Americans get their fat, sweaty, overfed, ignorant arses off the couches, out of the SUVs, away from the damn TV sets and convince them that there's a GRADE A, INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH EMERGENCY HERE, YOU MORONIC SHEEP, and arm them with real torches, pitchforks etc., their own pepper spray and get them to storm Capitol Hill and the White House. Can anyone not see how it is coming to this? Now you'll say that you don't want anything violent. You'll dismiss me as a raving fatalist. So exactly what plan have you got to launch at least 10 million Americans off their butts (OWS & The Tea Party) and aim them squarely and strongly at the problem?

This isn't just the overly-dramatic raving of a deranged, hysterical rat permanently locked into a rage. This is stark bloody reality - isn't there quite enough evidence of this? I mean, The Manchurian Candidate - Nobel Peace Prize winner - has just finished threatening Australia and assuring everyone that the Empire WILL expand and control the whole Asia-Pacific region at gunpoint whether you like it or not. He's doing precisely nothing to safeguard, or pretend to safeguard constitutional rights at home. Because YOU WILL SUBMIT TO THE POLICE STATE UNDER THE 'PATRIOT' ACT, OR YOU WILL BE CRUSHED.

Oh, OWS and the Tea Party have had some measure of the success. But it MUST expand exponentially, while there is still time, and a great number of people will have to be willing to risk getting assaulted and hauled off to jail. That is, if you can somehow conquer the Exceptionally American Trait of near-total apathy. A Tahrir Square is in our future. A Tiananmen Square will likely follow.

November 22, 2011 at 6:19 a.m.
fairmon said...

MickeyRat...An excuse for Marshall law prior to the 2012 elections would play into their hands. Demonstrations and airing of grievances is appropriate and needed but must be peaceful, bipartisan and large in number to be effective. The two most effective in history may have been MLK and Gandhi. In my opinion the reaction to the peacefully demonstrating California students which was much different than the behavior in Oakland and New York violated their rights.

November 22, 2011 at 7:15 a.m.
mymy said...

Before I arrived at this site, I knew what the topic of today would be. So, while you fools spend the day the same old way playing the blame game remember this country is in deep trouble and divided we fall—united we stand! The 2012 election is crucial in which way this country is going. I do hope the left of this site is only a small sample of people who are so brainwashed they are incapable of seeing what is happening in real life.

Here is one part of an interview with Romney. There are two other parts. I hope you watch.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1288498876001/romney-obamas-policies-are-bankrupt

November 22, 2011 at 8:02 a.m.
miraweb said...

It is probably just s well that Clay cut off the Supercommittee above the waist. Those steroids (lobbyist's money?) can have other serious side effects, too.

November 22, 2011 at 8:29 a.m.
mymy said...

More ALPO dog food washed down with Kool Aid. Obama is the problem here. Obama is promoting this behavior in our country to distract from the damage he is doing to us with his destructive policies. He has no record to run on so we are seeing in real time his continued BS to the brainwashed to divide the country=class warfare. A lot seem to continue to believe in this to the country’s demise.

The Thrill is Gone:

http://tv.breitbart.com/thrill-is-gone-matthews-turns-on-obama-i-hear-stories-that-you-would-not-believe/

November 22, 2011 at 10:36 a.m.
lumpy said...

Speaking of OWS, did you anyone read about how Los Angeles officials who want to offer the Occupy horde incentives to abandon their camp outside of city hall? They want to offer them 10,0000 sq. feet of office space for $1 a year and free farmland for those who want to farm.

That illustrates perfectly how the twisted liberal mind works.

Would liberal city officials ever wave taxes for a year or give free office space to a new businesses in order to help them get off the ground? Hell no.

Free farmland?

I guess the key to success is to demand what other people have worked hard for, crap and pee in the streets, threaten violence, rape, expose yourself and not take a shower for month.

November 22, 2011 at 10:40 a.m.
khargis said...

I see Clay drew the left and right arms as equally droopy and useless

November 22, 2011 at 10:45 a.m.
mymy said...

The Tea Party stood up and challenged the Republican establishment for the wrong they are doing---spend, spend us into Greece. The left is too brainwashed to understand they should be doing the same to the Democratic establishment. Occupy is not the Tea Party!

November 22, 2011 at 11:01 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

BILLIONAIRES SHOULDN'T PAY LESS THAN BUS DRIVERS

Sorry Harp, but republicans refused to give in one penny. The final democratic proposal contained the same cuts in Medicare and Medicaid, $275 billion, as republican senator Toomey's final plan. The difference centered on Toomey not only protecting the super rich from an increased tax rate - something even republican voters want - but proposed a lowered tax rate which would add about $1.75 trillion to the deficit. Instead of bringing the high end tax rates into alignment with what the rest of us have to pay, republicans would rather shift the financial burden to the poor and elderly.

Republicans have their heads stuck in the ideological sand of trickle down economics.

November 22, 2011 at 11:35 a.m.
mymy said...

The Super Committee was set up to fail along ideological lines. Obama and company have done nothing to make things better only worse. So any change is better than what we have now. There are ways to do this. So, the only thing to do is challenge the establishment on both sides. So far we only have the Tea Party doing this and I hope they continue to challenge, but do it to both sides. We cannot continue to build larger government and larger debt! It will only continue to fail. Then what?

Send a lot of the old establishment bums home! It is time to try to find those more interested in this country than their power, etc.

There are at least 2 Republican candidates that can eat Obama’s lunch in a debate. I can’t wait!

November 22, 2011 at 1:08 p.m.
EaTn said...

mymy---the debate is not the issue in the 2012 election- it's electability. The right-winger that's now floating on top, Gingrich, definitely is not electable, and the ones that are electable probably won't get off the bottom because they don't meet the ultra right test. The GOP will beat themselves in 2012.

November 22, 2011 at 1:26 p.m.

Sorry folks but the cuts are going to happen one way or the other. Medicare is definitely going to be a target based on the rampant misuse of funds in that area. The Bush era made a point to allow privatization of medicare advantage plans and the insurance companies ran with it. They receive ridiculous compensation for administering these plans. It's basically a hand over fist profit scenario. The average person based on an average pay in to Medicare pays in about 150,000.00 They receive on average double that in available benefits. I don't mean inhand but potential benefits to be paid out for in a case to case basis. Most of that is Bush era hook-ups for big insurance companies. Medicare will be on the chopping block. Now it's just a matter of how the cuts come to pass.

November 22, 2011 at 1:33 p.m.
timbo said...

Guys, socialism is a failed system. The "bipartisan" super commitee was designed to fail.

November 22, 2011 at 1:33 p.m.

@mymy- "There are at least 2 Republican candidates that can eat Obama’s lunch in a debate. I can’t wait!" Really? You think so, huh? There isn't a single Republican even close to being up for the job of Commander and Chief. Sorry to all of you Republican automatons out there that fall prey to every poorly concieved Republican ideal they feed you. Gingrich is only in the running because he loves to tackle the Liberal media. Thats something every other candidate faulters on. Mitt has one thing in his favor and thats the fact that he put it out there on the line by announcing a medicare cut. I don't agree with it but at least he stood up and said it. Not one single candidate for the republican's qualifies for consideration of the presidency. It's another sign of the times that the Republicans are wrong and this country needs an overhaul! Stop C%$k blocking the attempts to fix the country and let the Democratz fix the mess you Republicans caused! After the dust settles you can start your crooked dealings again put another puppet in the white house and strive to destroy the american dream again. Just wait till we fix it once more then have at it!!!!!!

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November 22, 2011 at 1:41 p.m.
mymy said...

EaTn

I was not talking about electability, but who could eat his lunch in a debate. The electable one will be doing it in the end!

November 22, 2011 at 1:47 p.m.
chet123 said...

Timbo...Americans will never submit to oligarchy or monarchy....American middle-class will not become indentured servant for the rich and greedy......

You are on the wrong side of history Timbo

November 22, 2011 at 2:14 p.m.
DarkSky said...

lumpy said... "Speaking of OWS, did you anyone read about how Los Angeles officials who want to offer the Occupy horde incentives to abandon their camp outside of city hall? They want to offer them 10,0000 sq. feet of office space for $1 a year and free farmland for those who want to farm. That illustrates perfectly how the twisted liberal mind works. Would liberal city officials ever wave taxes for a year or give free office space to a new businesses in order to help them get off the ground? Hell no." November 22, 2011 at 10:40 a.m

What about all the sweetheart deals local gov't gives to new businesses?(aquarium,vw,etc.) What about all the sweetheart deals states gives to new business ventures?(all the car manufactors moving to the south-east) Lumpy, do you really think "liberal cities" don't make sweetheart deals to attract new business?

OWS is not a business. It is a political uprising. Those in power fear the potential of what it could become. The free farmland sounds like they are trying to buy them out(gets them out of the city and farming is hard, hard work, no time to protest if you are tired from working pre-dawn till dusk)

Maybe LA offered the space to give OWS a place to pee and to get away from the criminals preying upon those people. Is the office space owned by the city? If the city owns it, doesn't it really belong to the people anyway?

Lumpy, just keep on screaming your hate and ignorance that your brainwashing provides you.

November 22, 2011 at 2:53 p.m.
DarkSky said...

The supercommittee was just another (hidden behind closed doors) sideshow at the circus we call U.S. Congress politics. It did the job it was supposed to do..... fail.

November 22, 2011 at 3:22 p.m.
DarkSky said...

Lumpy's 10:40am post makes me so very angry! Lumpy aren't you concerned that over 1800 rapes happen in the U.S. every day? How about the 1.2 million violent crimes that happened in 2010 in the U.S.? Why aren't you on your high-horse about these things? Because it doesn't fit into your extremist political agenda?

A very tiny percentage of violent crime happens at an OWS protest and you label them all rapists and violent offenders? Could it be that most of the protestors are decent humans and just don't share your political views?

So you label them and make derogative statements of them as if they were sub-human and that makes you righteous and superior compared to them, just like a nazi or racist. If they are sub-human then they don't deserve your empathy. Makes it easier for you to slaughter them, doesn't it?

I'm surprised more violent crime hasn't happened with as many people wearing masks at the protests.

November 22, 2011 at 4:16 p.m.
fairmon said...

BW48....

The Bush rates are set to expire at the end of 2012 and are not to be included in the calculation of achieving the 1.2 trillion reduction over ten years. Both parties are playing us. An annual deficit of 1.7 trillion reduced to 1.58 trillion per year does nothing to avoid the catastrophic results headed our way. Greece will look like the little leagues compared to the majors. If the carefully chosen words make you feel good and that either party, in your case the dems, gives a rats behind about any thing other than being elected to their position again to me that is naive. Unless the annual reduction approaches 2 trillion and unemployment is reduced to 5% or less we will be vulnerable to being controlled by our creditors and any country that wants to hurt us. The pain will come now or be more severe later, take your choice.

November 22, 2011 at 4:39 p.m.
fairmon said...

Obama was elected and is the POTUS and should be treated by people with courtesy and respect. Heckling, interrupting his speech in N.J. fails to show the respect the holder of the office should receive regardless of disagreement. I don't like the way he governs and his European style philosophy however if someone doesn't want to hear what he has to say stay away. The same lack of respect was shown for the first lady who agreed to attend a Nascar race and participate in the start for a good cause. The lack of respect with cat calls from a few was uncalled for and embarrassing.

November 22, 2011 at 7:53 p.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Can we agree we have a problem? And the Gang of 12 didn't solve it? OK, let's use a supercommittee of 300 million. Here's how.

You know on Form 1040 it lets us vote yes or no on welfare for Presidential candidates? 89% vote no (last I read a figure). Let's apply that to the rest of the budget. National Endowment for the Arts, budget $150 million or so. If 51% vote no, kill the NEA and divide half its budget among the 300 million and put the other half to deficit reduction: we each get a quarter. Foreign aid, say $6 billion. That's $10 per American if 51% vote no, with half going to us and half to deficit reduction. This would change the incentives, so we have an incentive to cut spending instead of an incentive to buy votes with other peoples' money.

November 22, 2011 at 7:55 p.m.
News_Junkie said...

MyMy:

You are definitely engaging in hyperbole if you think that there are two Republican candidates who could eat Obama's lunch in a debate. The top two debates are Newt and Mitt.

I will grant you that Newt is knowledgeable, has a cornucopia of new ideas, and is glib. Despite the fact that he spews for a multitude of new ideas every nanosecond, few of them withstand the slightest bit of scrutiny. In fact, he has had to "walk back" a number of his ruminations in this campaign already. Voters are interested in the candidate who presents the best ideas, not how presents the most ideas.

Mitt does very well in the debates, but that is principally because most of the other candidates are their own worst enemies. Unfortunately, virtually everything that he says is nothing more than a recitation of well-rehearsed talking points.

The candidate who, in my estimation, would be the best candidate to take on Obama in the general election is Huntsman. He could appeal to the independents (not just the Republicans), is intelligent, articulate, and provides original thought (instead of repeating talking points). Unfortunately, he doesn't excite the Republican base. But facing Huntsman would be Obama's worst fear.

Romney's DISapproval ratings are low simply because the other candidates are reluctant to attack him, inasmuch as he most likely will be the nominee. My guess is that his DISapproval ratings will rise once the Democrat machine starts supplying the press with negative information about him.

By way of contrast, the Republicans have been blasting Obama with everything that they could come up with since the day he got elected, so that they won't have anything new to use against him in the general election.

Anybody who thinks that Romney is going to trounce Obama is engaging in wishful thinking. It will be close.

November 22, 2011 at 8:44 p.m.
acerigger said...

I'll say it again,and you can check it out,Pres. Obama went into the "lion's den" at a Republican Caucus luncheon,(with no teleprompter),and basically made them look like the fools they are! So bad,in fact, that Faux Newz had to break in and end their live coverage of the whipping that Pres.Obama was giving them! So any of you wingers thinking that there is anyone in the Kurrent Klown Kar of Republican nominees who could best Pres.Obama in any debate are fooling yourselves. As a (slightly liberal) Democrat,I've got my problems with Pres.Obama,but thinking he's stupid ain't one of them

November 22, 2011 at 9:10 p.m.
DarkSky said...

HaHa Acerigger! I remember that one. I chuckled about that for days.

President Obama, IMO, was the way lesser of the 2 evils offered in the 2008 election. At the time Obama was bringing a younger viewpoint to the Office that appealed to me. McCain and Palin in the White House....shudder. A younger McCain maybe, but Palin never.

I've been voting for 20 years and still feel like I'm voting for lesser of the 2 evils in every federal election.

November 22, 2011 at 9:37 p.m.
mymy said...

harp: When a President does not respect the office, the country or the people, why should we respect him?

Jukie: By the time of the election the people will be totally fed up with the nastiness of The Bomb. I am already! He is a dirty bomb on this country. The country is suffering enough now and another year of Obama will finish him off.

Ahhhh The gift (dirty bomb) that just keeps on giving. Thank Obama!

Labor Department Allows Ex-Solyndra Workers to Apply for Federal Aid

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/22/labor-department-allows-ex-solyndra-workers-to-apply-for-federal-aid/#ixzz1eUj9dZMT

November 22, 2011 at 10:37 p.m.
fairmon said...

The RNC would be wise to have Santorum, Bachmann and Huntsman to step aside, Perry will probably self destruct soon. Let Romney and Gingrich go at it with Ron Paul and Cain keeping it interesting by giving them issues to key off of. The republican process and debates are probably a waste of time since an incumbent is hard to beat, especially with a $1 billion dollar campaign fund and the automatic votes of:

o The 47% paying no taxes with some getting earned income credit.

o The democratic base of around 35% of voters

o Most union members

o All minority groups

o The majority of females with a college degree

o The majority of government employees

o Special interest groups

o The financial sector

o The educations for sale community

These voter blocs are not additive but collectively he cannot be beat unless he does something really dumb which is not likely.

November 22, 2011 at 11:01 p.m.
fairmon said...

mymy,,,the workers at Solyndra should not be punished because of poor and crooked management. They deserve whatever assistance employees get when any company ceases operations.

I do not like many of Obama's decisions and I strongly oppose his ideology. However, I hate to see the POTUS not respected regardless of differences. Those people heckling him should be out working to assure he is not elected again.

November 22, 2011 at 11:10 p.m.
DarkSky said...

Ahh Harp3339, you were sounding reasonable earlier.

I don't care what you say about the republican canidates. IMO, Romney and Huntsman are the only ones that have a chance against Obama.

The only thing I don't agree with you is on the list you posted about the 47% not paying taxes. Please be more more exact with your statements. I think what you mean is Federal Income Tax. These people still pay sales tax, property tax, regulatory taxes on utilities, and Medicare and Social Security(if they have a job).

And what is " The educations for sale community"? College students and falculty?

November 22, 2011 at 11:27 p.m.
fairmon said...

DarkSky....

I do mean the 47% paying no federal income taxes which is obvious with the reference to the earned income provision. I am not suggesting they should pay income taxes only how they will vote. I do think the earned income credit is a disguised welfare program and should not be part of the tax system. If it is necessary and supported then separate it and identify it as a spread the wealth welfare program.

Education for sale is the increased cost since Carter established the department of education. Federal government involvement has had the same impact any government program which always increases cost with the program requesting more and more money. Tuition cost have increased as much or more than health care cost. A visit and look at the institutions behavior, elaborate spending habits and curriculum requirements reveal a lot.

My evaluation would be that Romney, Huntsman and Gingrich are the most qualified. I am not required to make a choice if one of them and Obama are the only options. I can opt to abstain and accept, regardless which one wins, the resulting depression this country will have. Obama will get us there quicker but the others will do nothing more than delay it a little with congress unwilling to do what is necessary.

November 23, 2011 at 4:50 a.m.
fairmon said...

The stock market is down again today. Peoples savings in a 401K and other savings are slowly being destroyed with no end in sight. Most members of Congress are among the countries wealthiest and are not affected.

November 23, 2011 at 4:59 a.m.
ricardo said...

This is yet another example of Congress kicking the can down the road. They are unable and unwilling to make the hard decisions. They are only interested in their own political survival. This "super committee" was just a ruse. There was never any intention of making deep cuts, with no real consequences of "failure". Setting automatic cuts to begin in 2013 did not give them any incentive to succeed. I hope Obama keeps his word and vetoes any attempt to stop the defense cuts.

November 23, 2011 at 8:28 a.m.
acerigger said...

harp3339 ,you obviously understand most of the problems,as do the #occupy movement.They are not just "a bunch of dirty hippies",but folks just like you .I would urge you and other people who can see the problem to contribute to finding a solution.

November 23, 2011 at 9:18 a.m.
chet123 said...

HARP3339....you said the market is going down.....How about looking in the mirror at yourself and your own party.....republican would rather bring down the economy than to let OBAMA...win reelction...this is politic at it worst....

Harp dont give me that bull about you are a independent.....i cant find republican on here anymore....they all try to mask as independents ha ha ha ....i would be ashame too....

When you talk about independent you are talking about New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg,Joe Lieberman, Barney Sander...and your comments and veiws are bent towards the tea party(the old GOLDWATER REPUBLICAN)

Harp3339...I vote democrats and proud of it....they are not perfect...but they are more american than republican are....the brand name republican is symbolic to rich and greedy...stealing...lying....Oligharchy, monarchy.....

November 23, 2011 at 9:53 a.m.
fairmon said...

acerigger said...

harp3339 ,you obviously understand most of the problems,as do the #occupy movement.They are not just "a bunch of dirty hippies",but folks just like you .I would urge you and other people who can see the problem to contribute to finding a solution.

I wish I could affect movement toward a solution but I don't see anything changing regardless of who is elected. I don't see enough voters realizing we are being had to vote out incumbents in congress. I don't see intelligent objective people willing to run and expose themselves and their family to the treatment of the media and their effort to select who is successful even if misleading and untrue allegations are necessary.

The most likely solution is to allow the inevitable to happen and see if we have people willing to suffer the pain and reinvent America.

November 23, 2011 at 10:18 a.m.
fairmon said...

chet123....

You have George Bush have a lot in common.

November 23, 2011 at 10:19 a.m.

wunteensoljeer sez---I am glad they failed, this is the only way we will ever see a 600 billion dollar cut to the industrial military complex. The repugnants are out to collapse what is left of our Democracy. They have us all indentured for life to shore up the rich. I can't wait til baseball bats are allowed.

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November 26, 2011 at 4:13 p.m.
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