published Thursday, November 24th, 2011

Turkey Day

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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memphisexile said...

I was trying to think of something snarky to say, but it is Thanksgiving. I am thankful that I live in a country where even the most unfortunate of the 99% lives better than much of the rest of the world. Hopefully the new year can bring us some sensible compromise in Washington.

November 24, 2011 at 1:53 a.m.
lumpy said...

Another leftist turkey by Bennett, just like 99% of his work.

Happy Thanksgiving!

November 24, 2011 at 3:40 a.m.
Momus said...

Another truth by Bennett, just like 99% of his work.

Happy Thanksgiving!

November 24, 2011 at 5:33 a.m.
EaTn said...

Very appropriate this year Clay with the price of a Thanksgiving dinner causing more than heartburn to those having to skimp to provide the traditional meal for the family. The turkey is covering most of the fat-cat tie which could be inscribed with one of a number of familiar political, wall street or electric utility executives.

November 24, 2011 at 5:47 a.m.
fairmon said...

Pass the solutions please. I didn't care for the solutions last year, I do hope the recipe has been changed.

November 24, 2011 at 6:28 a.m.
fairmon said...

I thought the break down was 1%-52%-47%. Once again those common every day people in the middle providing for the two extremes are ignored. It is understandable when we keep electing members of the 1% as our leaders and decision makers. Those we elect not among the 1% will be in the top tier when they complete their "unselfish" sacrifice and service to our country.

November 24, 2011 at 6:43 a.m.
miraweb said...

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

November 24, 2011 at 7:36 a.m.
fairmon said...

Let us be thankful our leaders are returning to our roots and modeling the governments of our European heritage with a 20/80 distribution.

Let us be thankful for leaders willing to intervene in the affairs of any country in the world and to unselfishly share the little wealth left or borrow more to share with them.

Let us be thankful for leaders willing to exempt themselves from the laws they pass for the rest of us.

Let us be thankful for leaders willing to make more and more choices for us relieving us of the burden of making our own choices.

Let us be thankful for leaders willing to intervene and support those among us that make bad choices by taking from others and sharing it with us.

We are blessed with leaders willing to compromise seniors, young children, the disabled and veterans among us in order to support those able but unwilling to provide for themselves.

When out leaders say they are thankful to be leading the greatest nation that ever was is "was" the key word?

November 24, 2011 at 7:36 a.m.
woody said...

Thank you Memphisexile..at least this forum got started out on a positive note. And you were right(?), if you will pardon my phraseology, today is NO day for "snarky" comments.

Let's be truly thankful for what we have..this day was not intended to be about what we don't have or might have had, should or could have had. Today is Thanksgiving..so give your thanks and let it go at that.

I hope all 100% of us can do just that..Woody

November 24, 2011 at 8:32 a.m.
alprova said...

Harp, why not be thankful for what you have, rather than whining about what you want.

You're beginning to appear to be beating a dead horse lately, what with your constant criticism of our leaders, especially those who risk their political careers to assist those who have little or nothing.

This is a day of thanks, and I for one am thankful for what I have and for still being alive after having weathered five separate strokes since June of this year.

I'm thankful to still have my wife with me, whom I almost lost several times after a car accident nine years ago.

I'm thankful to be sharing this Thanksgiving day with all of my family and several friends.

I could get mired down in thinking about what I don't have if I wanted to, but I prefer to concentrate on what I still have, and I thank merciful God for all of it.

On this day, when there are so many people who live in this country, who are sweating how they are going to afford the necessities in life, I'm thankful to live in a country where we still have people compassionate enough to assist those who are down on their luck, for one reason or another.

Harp, this is still the greatest nation on Earth, and one of the reasons it still is, is because there are enough people who lead this nation who fight against domination of this nation by people who think like you do.

November 24, 2011 at 8:33 a.m.
joecrash1 said...

What about the 53% of us who work and pay taxes while the others live off what we do?

November 24, 2011 at 8:47 a.m.
Pictureman said...

Maybe Mr. 99% can dress more professionally, like the fellow on the left, get a little job, and buy himself a turkey.

November 24, 2011 at 9:38 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Thank triune Jehovah for the marvels He created and sustains; "in Him we live and move and have our being" (Acts 17): trees, sky, cats, wife, baby...

Thank Him because He "shows His love for us in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us" (Romans 5). Sinners? Thank Him for the Bible: "By the law is the knowledge of sin...the law is holy and the commandment holy and just and good" (Romans 3, Romans 7). I've read thousands of books: the Bible is God's, the rest are of less value.

"Thou shalt not covet," Clay. Repent.

Thank triune Jehovah for a country richer and freer than most. I've lived in Pakistan. 80% of the people in the world would gladly trade places with the poorest 20% of Americans.

(If Donald Trump and Mitt Romney want to be President, let them buy little islands from Haiti and set up their own countries--Trumpistan and Romneystan--and see how they do.)

"Holy holy holy Lord God Almighty...Be ye holy for I AM holy..all have sinned and come short of the glory of God," including our politicians, though they are "deacons" and "liturgists" to Him (Romans 13), a fact even the Christians among them seem rarely to bring to mind. Since Jesus is rather libertarian, He is not about politics in the way our President and his replacements are, but since He is rather libertarian, His followers would do well to heed His preferences.

November 24, 2011 at 9:57 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Andrew - your version of libertarian derives from Ayn Rand, not Jesus. Repent.

November 24, 2011 at 10:09 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova...

I am sorry to hear of your hardships and I am gled you have dealt so well with them. But, In my opinion you are about as full of stuffing as the turkey. Name one leader that is truly interested in the future of this country and is willing to take the necessary steps to keep from taking from future generations to pay for current excesses. Who among them is willing to risk not being retained in their position? I do wish I could find justification for loyalty to a party as you do but seeing what I do from both of them I can't get there. I have never hated anyone in my life but I do think long term exposure to Nancy Pelosi would change that.

I do have and I am thankful for a lot. I do and will continue as long as possible supporting local charitable organizations that do good work.

November 24, 2011 at 10:10 a.m.
Jemmy said...

@Joecrash,

What about the many, many American citizens who work full-time, hold down two jobs, etc, but don't make enough to live on, let alone to pay income taxes?

The 1% have succeeded both in passing the social cost of low wages onto taxpayers in the declining middle, and convincing those same taxpayers that the mass of hard-working Americans at the bottom are scrounging, are 'the enemy.' This is the definition of successful class war.

What about those millions of American citizens at the bottom whose hard work and labor creates value to the extent, say, of 30 dollars per hour, but who receive but 8 dollars per hour in wages? Where does the other 22 dollars in value go? Of course it goes to the fat cats at the top, who now make 3,800 times the income of their average employees. Talk about living well off the hard work of others!

Part of that excess unearned income going to the top 1%, in turn, is used to buy propaganda on Faux News and elsewhere, to convince the declining middle class that working-poor Americans are the enemy. While we blame our less-fortunate neighbors for our ills, the fat cats in Manhattan penthouses are laughing all the way to the banks they own.

November 24, 2011 at 10:42 a.m.
ricardo said...

The 52%ers are occupying the Best Buy parking lot looking for cheap laptops and tablets.

November 24, 2011 at 10:46 a.m.
steve_smith said...

I am thankful that it is still legal to eat turkey. Everyone have a happy Thanksgiving - even Clay with his head and feet.

November 24, 2011 at 10:47 a.m.
onetinsoldier said...

Franklin's Letter to His Daughter (excerpt)

"For my own part I wish the Bald Eagle had not been chosen the Representative of our Country. He is a Bird of bad moral Character. He does not get his Living honestly. You may have seen him perched on some dead Tree near the River, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the Labour of the Fishing Hawk; and when that diligent Bird has at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the Support of his Mate and young Ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him and takes it from him.

"With all this Injustice, he is never in good Case but like those among Men who live by Sharping & Robbing he is generally poor and often very lousy. Besides he is a rank Coward: The little King Bird not bigger than a Sparrow attacks him boldly and drives him out of the District. He is therefore by no means a proper Emblem for the brave and honest Cincinnati of America who have driven all the King birds from our Country...

"I am on this account not displeased that the Figure is not known as a Bald Eagle, but looks more like a Turkey. For the Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America... He is besides, though a little vain & silly, a Bird of Courage, and would not hesitate to attack a Grenadier of the British Guards who should presume to invade his Farm Yard with a red Coat on."

November 24, 2011 at 11:04 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

Lohristan would be the scariest, craziest place on this planet should it ever come to pass. Oh, I forgot. That's the vision Andrew has for all of us in this country.

IAE, I am thankful for all I have been blessed with this year. Clay, I am especially thankful for the way your insight and artistic ability. Keep up the fire.

Finally, I am trying to remain thankful for some of the more Prozac-deprieved posters so Lord, please keep working with me on that one.

November 24, 2011 at 11:15 a.m.
mymy said...

Hidden behind the turkey on the tie is FOO=Friends of Obama!

Jemmy: the difference is education. One can work harder without it or work easier with it, but there will also be a need at every level to make things work. Everybody unable to be at the top. Life does not work that way. The Democrats want all of us at the bottom, enslaved/dependent on government=buying your vote to stay in power. Wake-up! The Tea Party gave the Republican establishment a wakeup call and more power to them. I hope more are replaced. To bad the left cannot see that in the long run they would be better off doing the same to the Democrat establishment.

Enjoy the day because another year of The Bomber and next year will be worse. The left is so buried in class warfare they can't see the light.

harp: Add Harry Reid to Nancy P.

November 24, 2011 at 1:50 p.m.
mymy said...

Right on JonRoss me too!

November 24, 2011 at 1:58 p.m.
patriot1 said...

I too would like to wish Tony HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!

I'm thankful for my family and many friends

I'm thankful for my home in Ooltewah, my Condo in Ft Lauderdale and also my cabin in Fontana.

November 24, 2011 at 2:31 p.m.
dude_abides said...

I would like to thank the Lord God Almighty for the truly AWESOME comedy lineup of republican party candidates this year! This would have been the PERFECT day to announce their nominee! Hey, I wonder which one of Mitt's wives serves the turkey today? I mean, is it a seniority thing, or do the sister wives take turns like they do in the bedroom?

November 24, 2011 at 2:44 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said......Harp, why not be thankful for what you have, rather than whining about what you want.

I went back and read the post and found nothing about what I wanted but some things we have. Did I include something that we don't have that caused you to conclude I wanted it?

November 24, 2011 at 5:58 p.m.
prairiedog said...

Well, here's the lesson. We've had equal rights by law in this country for more than 40 years, and although there are still prejudices, we've come a long way. So how come people are not taking advantage of the equal employment and educational opportunities granted by our society? That's easy.

Some people are still waiting for the government to come rolling in with guarantees and subsidies and programs to give everyone a better standard of living, while others have used the opportunities and done better for themselves.

Waiting for the government to make your life comfortable while you are not busting your hump to do well in school, and on the job, and in every other part of your life is the thing that leaves you with the slim pickings while the 1% are living comfortably.

If you don't want to have very much in life, then all you have to do is wait for somebody else to provide it for you. That's what you'll get. Not very much.

There are crooks in the 1%, and those folks need to go to jail. But as for the ones who just worked hard to get to where they are, don't blame them. Try to be one of them instead, and your life will be a lot better in the long run.

November 24, 2011 at 6:46 p.m.
alprova said...

Harp, what you want is never going to happen. You want to live in some Utopian perfect World, of your own design no less, and that is never going to happen.

November 24, 2011 at 6:47 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said... Harp, what you want is never going to happen

The mentality of what we have is good enough or as good as it can be will certainly assure nothing improves. The chances are what either of us want will never happen but what is more likely is the catastrophic ending of a once great dynasty. Too many people demand more and more of a government all too willing to increase their control of people through making them more dependent. We are moving from equal opportunity to parity where one can only have something if everyone else also has it. We may be approaching the point where all money goes to the government who lavishes in luxury then gives to each an equal portion of what is left.

November 24, 2011 at 7:53 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova responds.....

because there are enough people who lead this nation who fight against domination of this nation by people who think like you do.

I doubt you know how I think but please name one of those willing to risk their position to make the bold moves to head off the head long rush to a disaster.

November 24, 2011 at 7:59 p.m.
alprova said...

Harp3339 wrote: "The mentality of what we have is good enough or as good as it can be will certainly assure nothing improves."

Nothing will improve to the degree that YOU want it to. You want to keep more of your income. You want to cut off social services that have been in place for decades at the Federal level. You have advocated the elimination of both the Energy and Education Departments at the Federal level.

You have mused that Ron Paul is a viable candidate. You have opined that unwed mothers who opt for an abortion should be sterilized, and on and on and on...

Your beliefs and lists of what you want are unrealistic.

"The chances are what either of us want will never happen but what is more likely is the catastrophic ending of a once great dynasty."

Believe it or not, although extremely undesirable, the amount of debt that this nation has on its books is completely manageable. It is being done as we speak.

That aside, after several years of proof, it appears that for as long as a Democrat is in the White House, the Republicans are going to do nothing needed to reduce the amount of debt, much less impose realistic spending cuts and actions necessary to increase revenue.

"Too many people demand more and more of a government all too willing to increase their control of people through making them more dependent."

In the absence of alternatives, what do you expect? A good college education costs $100,000 these days, and over the past few years, there are no decent jobs open to graduates. Many men and women over 50 years of age, who previously enjoyed near perfect employment records, are being thrown overboard and are now considered to be all but employable.

The middle class is still shrinking. Unemployment is still stubbornly holding at around 9%. People are still hurting.

You might not be, but many are. Not recognizing that problem doesn't make it go away.

"We are moving from equal opportunity to parity where one can only have something if everyone else also has it."

That's not true. If you believe that all people have equal opportunities in life and when it comes to earning a living, then you are out there on an island all by yourself.

One of the biggest falsehoods floating around out there is the notion that you can achieve financial independence through hard work and determination. If that's all there was to it, we'd have a nation of budding millionaires. Many people work long and hard and never get ahead of living paycheck to paycheck. The inequalities involved are too numerous to list.

"We may be approaching the point where all money goes to the government who lavishes in luxury then gives to each an equal portion of what is left."

And you Sir, are lavishing in exaggeration.

November 24, 2011 at 11:41 p.m.
alprova said...

Harp3339 wrote: "I doubt you know how I think but please name one of those willing to risk their position to make the bold moves to head off the head long rush to a disaster."

I think I pegged you pretty well in my most previous post.

Personally, I think the current President of the United States has risked quite a lot, politically, in doing what he has done over the past three years in his quest to help America recover from near Depression, and despite all the rhetoric posted by his critics, the man has accomplished quite a lot over those three years.

He has done so much in fact, that next year's election will result in a landslide victory for himself and the Democrat Party as a whole.

Mark my word on that.

November 24, 2011 at 11:50 p.m.
lumpy said...

How can Obama win in a landslide when he WILL lose the entire south, southwest, rocky mountain states, the majority of the midwest except for Illinois and few other states tossed in, like New Jersey and Pennsylvania. He'll only win California, Illiniois, New York, Maryland, Massachussets, Hawaii and a couple more. Sorry the numbers are against him.

Only a Democrat Party operative or a meathead would label Obama a sucess. Alprova, you're either one of those.

I actually think there's a good chance he'll bolt and Hillary will be come out of the convention.

November 25, 2011 at 12:31 a.m.
patriot1 said...

lumpy..you may be right remember the democrats don't trust their voters so much so that they have super delegates in their nominating process which makes up about 20 - 25 per cent of the total. They could very well swing the nomination in a different direction.

November 25, 2011 at 6:27 a.m.
davisss13 said...

Good one Clay. Got it right.

November 25, 2011 at 8:05 a.m.
aidehua said...

Typical class warfare rant from the TFP's in-house Leninist. At least Clay gets my blood boiling first thing every morning - and that may be a good thing. As an on-line reader of the TFP, I'm glad not to have paid money to read Clay's un-American cartoons.

November 25, 2011 at 8:10 a.m.
davisss13 said...

Well aidehua, don't let the door hit you on the way out. 'Leninist'? lol. Hyperbole much? From your bs rhetoric I can tell you're nothing but an unAmerican GOP troll.

November 25, 2011 at 9:06 a.m.
chet123 said...

LUMPY...how can he win????you said Obama will lose the entire south.....i think that's what happen in his last presidential election victory

Boy Lumpy,you are such a genius!

November 25, 2011 at 9:14 a.m.
chet123 said...

Deep south is brain wash by the southern baptist church....The southern baptist also favor segregation, and slavery....Hmmmmm!!!

November 25, 2011 at 9:17 a.m.
chet123 said...

ABBA HOUSE...I THINK YOU GOT IT RIGHT(ABBA house removed itself from the hypocrites)

November 25, 2011 at 9:18 a.m.
davisss13 said...

The southern baptist also favor segregation, and slavery....Hmmmmm!!!

Now, now. They don't favor slavery as such. But they do approve of torturing people, even US citizens, for information... especially if they are Muslims.

November 25, 2011 at 9:36 a.m.
miraweb said...

Interestingly, the biggest income gaps are in the Southern cities of the U.S. The South also has higher rates for both food stamps and for Medicaid enrollment than the rest of the country.

If you want more people paying taxes the obvious answer is more jobs at higher wages. If half of the country is too poor to make the minimum tax bracket then we are failing badly as a nation.

Interestingly, Britain is on a fast track to launch work programs targeted at the 18 - 24 population by April. They will pay half of the youth minimum wage plus support for apprenticeships and training programs. I'm guessing this is in response to the riots in England over the summer and the unrest in the U.S. now.

Data sources: http://www.ukcpr.org/

November 25, 2011 at 11:57 a.m.
miraweb said...

I was a little curious after the Supercommittee announcement that one side had asked for even more tax breaks for the rich as to how many Members of Congress would benefit. No wonder it is so hard to get a vote on taxing the wealthiest Americans.

Net Worth of American Households (2006)

        Average Net Worth  /  Average Income

Top 25% $1,556,801 $ 177,265

Middle Top 25% $ 185,537 $ 57,310

Middle Bottom 25% $ 47,153 $ 31,803

Bottom 25% $ 0 $ 12,688

Net Worth of Members of Congress, The Executive, and the The Judiciary Branches of Government (2010)

658 Number of individuals reporting Net Worth

400 Have a net worth of $1,000,000 or more

9 > $100,000,000

7 between $50,000,000 and $100,000,000

52 between $10,000,000 and $50,000,000

52 between $5,000,000 and $10,000,000

224 between $1,000,000 and $5,000,000

97 between $500,000 and $1,000,000

82 between $250,000 and $500,000

148 < $250,000

20 reporting a negative net worth

4 no data

Data Sources: http://elsa.berkeley.edu/~saez/saez-UStopincomes-2006prel.pdf http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/overview.php?type=W&year=2010&filter=A

November 25, 2011 at 2:07 p.m.
fairmon said...

miraweb posted....

Interestingly, Britain is on a fast track to launch work programs targeted at the 18 - 24 population by April. They will pay half of the youth minimum wage plus support for apprenticeships and training programs. I'm guessing this is in response to the riots in England over the summer and the unrest in the U.S. now.

Sounds good. Any mention where the money to do that will come from? Europe's economic situation is worse than the U.S. with some countries nearing default on their debt. Last week Germany was not able to sell the bonds they had planned on. I am sure you are aware of the lack of buyers for the debt of the PIGS (Portugal, Italy, Greece Spain) and why they are unable to borrow money.

November 25, 2011 at 4:25 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova says...

Believe it or not, although extremely undesirable, the amount of debt that this nation has on its books is completely manageable. It is being done as we speak

Wake up. You are fantisizing again.

alprova says.........

He has done so much in fact, that next year's election will result in a landslide victory for himself and the Democrat Party as a whole.

I have never said he would not be elected again but the reasons are much different than what you indicate. A contrairian view would be to hope he also regains the house and retains the senate. When you are in an out of control vehicle and gaining speed it may be necessary to crash it and improve the chances of surviving. It may be in our best interest to crash now and suffer the pain than to face certain death.

November 25, 2011 at 4:37 p.m.
whatsnottaken said...

If the 99% would leave their "camps" and go to work, they could earn a living and eat too. They remind me of the Libyans, Palestinians, etc., who walk around day after day chanting about how bad their lives are. If you don't like your life, work hard to change it. That USED TO BE the American way. Then again, America as we know it is long gone, invaded by deadbeats, illegals and their sympathizers.

November 25, 2011 at 8:28 p.m.
alprova said...

Harp3339 wrote: "Wake up. You are fantisizing again."

Would you care to explain why it is that I may be fantasizing?

Is it not a fact that the debt is being managed very well? Has the Government missed so much as one interest payment on the debt?

"I have never said he would not be elected again but the reasons are much different than what you indicate. A contrairian view would be to hope he also regains the house and retains the senate. When you are in an out of control vehicle and gaining speed it may be necessary to crash it and improve the chances of surviving. It may be in our best interest to crash now and suffer the pain than to face certain death."

Meaning what? It's going to take a whole lot more than 15 trillion to crash. If and when the Republicans get off their duffs and get busy trying to realistically solve this country's problems, it may well be a win for everyone.

As long as the Republicans hold to a written promise to not raise taxes on the top earners in this nation and continue to stonewall the President in moving this nation forward, they are going to suffer immense losses come eleven and half months from now.

It's just that simple. Blaming the Democrats is not going to cut it any longer. Cutting social services as a means to solve the debt crisis is no longer going to cut it.

Trying to limit the current President to one term and an all-out attempt in protecting war profiteers is not going to cut it either.

The Pentagon is spending a million dollars a day abroad and more, which is draining the financial resources of this nation tremendously.

Putting people back to work should be everyone in Washington's sole focus and intent. That was the promise made by the Republicans who saw victory last year. To date, they have done bupkiss for the American people, but to talk and talk and talk.

November 25, 2011 at 8:34 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Bennett is a dolt. His work warrents no comment beyond that.

November 25, 2011 at 9:28 p.m.
dude_abides said...

At least he doesn't spell 9.090909% of his words wrong.

November 25, 2011 at 9:46 p.m.
mymy said...

alprova said...

"Is it not a fact that the debt is being managed very well? Has the Government missed so much as one interest payment on the debt?”

That statement shows you do not understand the situation, Geez!

“Putting people back to work should be everyone in Washington's sole focus and intent. That was the promise made by the Republicans who saw victory last year. To date, they have done bupkiss for the American people, but to talk and talk and talk.>

That statement shows you do not understand the situation, Geez!

My guess is too much DCN (Democratic Cheerleading News)!

November 25, 2011 at 10:10 p.m.
fairmon said...

A reduction of only 1.2T over ten years results in an annual deficit of of 1.59T instead of 1.7T so the debt increases to around 30T that can never be repaid even if the higher incomes are taxed at 100%.

alprova says...

Is it not a fact that the debt is being managed very well? Has the Government missed so much as one interest payment on the debt?

Paying interest as due is not proof of good management. They keep borrowing and printing money to pay the interest. Is it wise to pay interest only on a loan as you increase the loan amount. That is worse than making the minimum payment on a credit card as you increase the amount owed.

November 25, 2011 at 10:19 p.m.

mmm mmm smak-smak

wee awl hed tha ole Tow-foo Tur-kee an eatin sum beenos

thin wee awl eatin sum Krow frum Warshintin---mmm mmmm Gud!

thin wee awl gott sum Gass reel baddd! an tha gott ussses Home-freee!

Wee did saw tha ole mrBamma onna tha tellavishun sayin hows evrBoddi shud bee Komm-uniti an awl tha Soshulistik Stufff butt hee nevr sed anithin abutt Thanky ta tha Lord whoo givd ussns this ole kun-tree an awl!

Nooo blesssins frum da Reech Prez-ee-dint----jes tow-foo an beenos an Gass!

hheehhicnhee

November 26, 2011 at 4:24 p.m.
rolando said...

The guy on the left worked and got what he deserved; the guy on the right wanted a handout instead of working and also got what he deserved.

November 26, 2011 at 9:54 p.m.
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