published Saturday, September 10th, 2011

Discipline

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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pburr47 said...

Clay! You, my friend, are a national treasure! Don't let anyone tell you differently; they don't know what they are talking about.

September 10, 2011 at 12:17 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Bennett is either incredibly partisan and irrelevant or just incredibly irrelevant.

September 10, 2011 at 12:43 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

This is what the work of a great cartoonist looks like...

http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/henrypayne

September 10, 2011 at 12:46 a.m.
AlmostAmanda said...

I don't know what's funnier, BRP. You calling someone else partisan. Or calling someone partisan, then linking to a partisan cartoon on a partisan site. Also, you might want to look up the meaning of the word "irrelevant" because a cartoon about a recent local event in a local newspaper isn't it. Or were you just talking about your endless criticism?

September 10, 2011 at 12:57 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

AlmostAmanda, Apparently you find my comments more comment worthy than Clay Bennett's cartoon. Thank you for proving my point!

September 10, 2011 at 1:12 a.m.
alprova said...

Creep!!

September 10, 2011 at 2:25 a.m.
OllieH said...

BigRidgePatriot- I will never understand the personal vendetta you seem to have for Clay Bennett.

I fully understand that you don't agree with his politics, but for you to constantly make the case that Bennett is not a skilled cartoonist is patently ridiculous. To prove that point by directing us all to the work of a stridently conservative cartoonist, however, is simply absurd. It's more than obvious to any of us who took the time to follow you down your conservative rabbit hole, that it's Henry Payne's politics, and not his abilities as a journalist, that you find so impressive.

I have been a big fan of editorial cartoons for many, many years now, and I'm quite familiar with Payne's work. And even though I probably disagree with his politics just as uniformly as you seem to disagree with the views of Clay Bennett, I would never stoop to attacking Payne's skills as a cartoonist as a way to discredit the opinions he expresses.

If you disagree with Clay Bennett's views then rebut them, but to come on this site day after day after day to merely impugn his professional abilities does nothing but make you look like a small-minded man who is blinded by his own political prejudices.

Clay Bennett is one of the best editorial cartoonist working in America today. This fact is affirmed by every measure that a journalist can be judged. I was thrilled when I heard he was coming to draw for the Times Free Press and I'm proud that he's made Chattanooga his home. Whether you agree with him or not, we should all feel fortunate to be able to call this nationally syndicated, internationally recognized, Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist our own.

I don't expect you will change your ways, BigRidge. The flames of your hatred for Clay Bennett might well be the only thing that keeps you warm at night. But you should understand, that while your conservative cohorts on this forum might well agree with your criticism of Bennett's politics, I'll bet more than a few of them would take issue with your jaundice view of his effectiveness as a cartoonist.

September 10, 2011 at 3:07 a.m.
jesse said...

i gotta admit this is his best in the short time i been hangin around on here!! i may have to start cuttin clay some slack!!!

September 10, 2011 at 3:17 a.m.
alprova said...

Ollie, that was the post of the century. I was totally impressed with your "The flames of your hatred..." comment. You deserve a Pulitzer prize for that post.

September 10, 2011 at 3:57 a.m.
DOCJGH said...

Nice work Clay! You've caught the facial expression and attitude perfectly. By the way, BRP continues to provide a wealth of material for a book on the inanity of southerner conservatives.

September 10, 2011 at 4:07 a.m.

BRP,

Your cartoonist Henry Payne is not even funny.... ... This just stupid partisanship....

Clay on the other hand is very subtle in his humor... But I guess your conservative brains dont see it... To much praying and stock car races.....

September 10, 2011 at 4:41 a.m.
jesse said...

that look on his face says it all. like "bring on some spankin"! funny stuff!

btw:brp is not a southern conservative, more like "the lunatic fringe"! best to just ignore him.he feeds on your responces to his rants!

September 10, 2011 at 6:11 a.m.
harrystatel said...

Maybe it's Paul's boyish good looks, his courtly manners, his smoothness with women, his warm hugs, his endearing young charms. Another quality appointment by the Mayor of Chattanooga!

I'm going to miss the Littlefield administration.

http://bit.ly/oiLRIE

September 10, 2011 at 6:34 a.m.
hambone said...

How long has it been now BRP?

You should have got over it by now.

Did Clay Bennett ever apoligize for what he did to you?

I'm sure he would if you would just ask!

September 10, 2011 at 8:57 a.m.
AlmostAmanda said...

In your dreams, BRP.

September 10, 2011 at 9:05 a.m.
sandyonsignal said...

Littlefield's administration ignored this man's past lewd behavior and re-instated him after he was punished by the EEOC. The women who complained were punished instead of Page. I love this cartoon Clay, the guy makes a mockery of our laws to have a safe workplace.

Wonder if Littlefield will hold a fundraiser for this pervert?

September 10, 2011 at 9:09 a.m.
Rufus_T_Firefly said...

I view many political cartoons in a week and your cartoons are among the best.

September 10, 2011 at 9:13 a.m.
rolando said...

Here's Henry Payne's bio, Ollieh. It stacks up more than favorably against our resident liberal.

There is a bit more meat to Payne's record...


Henry Payne is an editorial cartoonist and writer for The Detroit News.

A Pulitzer-Prize nominated cartoonist, Payne produces five local editorial cartoons a week for The News. He also writes and draws a weekly column, “Payne & Ink.” His weekly “CAR-toon” – a humorous look at America’s car-crazy culture – runs exclusively on The News’ web site, detnews.com.

Additionally, Payne draws five cartoons a week on national and international subjects for United Feature Syndicate in New York which distributes his cartoons to 40 newspaper clients worldwide. His work is reprinted in The New York Times, USA Today, National Review, and other publications.

He has been a runner-up for both the Pulitzer and Mencken awards. “Payne’s Sketchbook,” a daily cartoon blog in which he discusses how he creates his cartoons, can be found at detnews.com (as well as HenryPayne.com).

As a writer, Payne reports regularly on economic, consumer and environmental issues. His articles have appeared in The Wall Street Journal, The Weekly Standard magazine, National Review, Reason, Scripps Howard News Service and numerous newspapers around the country. He also is a correspondent for National Review’s popular “Planet Gore” blog.

Payne came to The Detroit News in 1999 after 13 years as an editorial cartoonist, writer, and editor for Scripps Howard News Service in Washington, DC .

In 1998, Payne created “Hub & Axel,” a comic panel distributed by the Tribune Company Syndicate about an American family and its very American passion for the automobile.

Payne published his first book, “Payne & Ink: The Cartoons and Commentary of Henry Payne, 2000-2001,” in 2002. He has also illustrated two children’s books for Random House: “Where did Daddy’s Hair Go?” (by Joe O’Connor) in 2006, and Dr. Seuss’ “The Ear Book” in 2007.

Born in 1962 in Charleston, West Virginia, Payne received a degree in history from Princeton University in 1984. As editorial cartoonist for two student newspapers, The Daily Princetonian and the Nassau Weekly, Payne won the College Media Advisers Cartoon Contest and the Tribune Company Syndicate’s National College Cartoonist’s Contest. Upon graduation from Princeton, Payne began his newspaper career as staff artist and editorial cartoonist with the Charleston (WV) Daily Mail. In 1986 he joined Scripps Howard News Service and began syndication with United Feature in 1987.

Payne is an active race car driver, tennis and squash player, and lives with wife, Talbot, and two children in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan.

September 10, 2011 at 9:33 a.m.
rolando said...

You got two of them right off the bat, BigRidge.

September 10, 2011 at 9:36 a.m.

I don't really get much out of these cartoons! He obviously is partisan. Continually riduculing one side and praising the other isn't genius, in my opinion. Where's the genius? He's a genius to the people on here because they agree with him.

September 10, 2011 at 10:06 a.m.
harrystatel said...

In this particular cartoon of Clay's, I see no liberal or conservative bias. It's a cartoon dealing with the corruption in local government and asks why Paul Page has continued in his position of power.

There are things that are morally wrong regardless of political viewpoints. Corruption in government and the use of a government position to initiate force or the threat of force is one of them.

I wouldn't care if Paul Page is a Tea-Partier or a Communist, his actions are morally reprehensible as are those that have allowed him to continue his terror.

The Mayor is also culpable in allowing this proven pattern of criminal conduct to continue. So is the City Attorney Mike McMahan and Blind Billy Cox, the DA.

Paul Page didn't operate in a vacuum; the Littlefield administration failed to protect City employees and the public from a miscreant.

I'm waiting for a Federal lawsuit and the process of discovery. I welcome the light into Chattanooga's corrupt government.

September 10, 2011 at 10:17 a.m.
lanaland said...

When Page can get raises to his more than $95k salary while harassing & retaliating against coworkers, taxpayers gotta wonder if the pay raises aren't a reward for the kind of indecent proposals he makes. He has bragged that he "gets women" for the top brass and city VIPs, in exchange for promotions, raises and flexible hours. Does he?

September 10, 2011 at 10:34 a.m.
OllieH said...

Rolando- You're absolutely right about Henry Payne. His bio is impressive. Like I said, I would never impugn his abilities just to discredit his views.

But his accomplishments hardly compare to those of our boy Clay.

Payne is, as his bio indicates "a Pulitzer-Prize nominated cartoonist" (although the hyphen should really go between the words 'prize' and 'nominated').

I was a bit surprised by that fact, but after doing a search on the Pulitzer site, I found that Mr. Payne was a nominated finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in the mid 80's. That's impressive, indeed. Out of all of the editorial cartoonists in America, he was found to be one of the three best in 1987.

But if you go to that same search feature and put in Clay Bennett's name- http://tinyurl.com/45xgv8b -you'll find that besides having actually won the Pulitzer Prize for editorial cartooning in 2003, our local cartoonist was a nominated finalist in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003 and 2008.

In fact, when he was nominated in 2008, I read a story that stated that Clay's sixth nomination was an all-time record for any cartoonist. Ever. Here's that story- http://tinyurl.com/23rorne

Payne's bio goes on to state that Henry has "been a runner-up for both the Pulitzer and Mencken awards". OK, so we already mentioned his one appearance as a finalist for the Pulitzer, but a runner-up for the Mencken Award? I don't even know what the Mencken Award is, but it does sound a bit familiar.

Oh yeah, the Mencken Award. The award for which Payne was a runner-up was the award that Clay Bennett actually won in 1987.

Look, I don't want to get into an argument about who's the better cartoonist (besides the argument I've already put forth). I have no gripe with Henry Payne. He's a competent cartoonist and has had a very successful career as a journalist. I just wish BigRidgePatriot would cut Clay Bennett the same slack.

You and I go way back on this forum, rolando. And even though I know you don't agree with Clay Bennett's politics at all, I also know that in the past, you have expressed an appreciation for his abilities as a cartoonist. Unlike BigRidge, you seem to understand that you don't have to agree with someone's point to appreciate when a point is made with creativity and impact.

September 10, 2011 at 12:29 p.m.
jesse said...

i THINK ollie h just shot rolando down in flames!!!!lol!

September 10, 2011 at 1:09 p.m.
OllieH said...

My intent was NOT to shoot anyone down in flames (except maybe BigRidgePatriot). As I said in my post above, rolando and I go way back and have sparred over many issues and cartoons over the years, but I respect him for someone who can recognize quality work, even if that work expresses an opinion contrary to his own.

September 10, 2011 at 1:48 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

The Bennett Cheerleaders are really showing their colors today. Clay is suggesting that they get all worked into a lather about some administrator’s lack of sensitivity and judgment. It seems like the leftards have dedicated at least twice as many posts to attacking an opinion different than theirs than they have discussing Clay's (lame) topic.

So much for the idea of diversity and tolerance! You people are pathetic hypocrites!

September 10, 2011 at 1:50 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

BlondButNotDumb said: “ I don't really get much out of these cartoons! He obviously is partisan. Continually ridiculing one side and praising the other isn't genius, in my opinion. Where's the genius? He's a genius to the people on here because they agree with him.”

Good grief! Thanks for the clarification, BlondButNotDumb. If it had not been for your post, I would have never known that this sexual harassment matter was a partisan political issue. Do you think Clay Bennett masterminded the incidents involving this city administrator? Indeed, what a dastardly thing for a political cartoonist to do. Well, at least, this poor alleged sex predator can always count on you for a hug.

September 10, 2011 at 2:31 p.m.
Momus said...

...what about audible flatulence? It's been banned in the Marines.

September 10, 2011 at 2:43 p.m.
Selah said...

Why should the EEOC punish him? Everything around here in Chattanooga and Hamilton County is an open book. There is never any punishment for the "good ole boys" or the "connected elected officials and families". Why the upset now?

September 10, 2011 at 3:02 p.m.
OllieH said...

Wow. So BigRidgePatriot is willing to defend the indefensible. I guess in his eyes its no big deal when a boss makes comments about his female employees breasts and sexual practices.

Comments attributed to this city administrator (in two separate sexual harassment complaints) would get you fired at any respectable company, so it's more than a little bit discouraging to see a city government that is willing to put tolerate it and to hear from a troglodyte like BigRidge who seems comfortable acting as an apologist for it.

September 10, 2011 at 3:05 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Selah said: "There is never any punishment for the "good ole boys" or the "connected elected officials and families". Why the upset now?"

Sometimes enough is enough even when it involves "good ole boys."

September 10, 2011 at 3:36 p.m.
lanaland said...

Has everyone noticed how many public officials hide behind the "I'm the victim of a partisan attack" strategy? City administrators retaliating against subordinate employees is not a partisan issue. It's illegal. And that's what's at issue: why the Littlefield administration is defending a top administrator who has been caught by the federal government harassing and retaliating against coworkers. Trying to get sexual favors by threatening women's jobs is not a minor thing, certainly not when so many women see how the top brass of Chattanooga government winks at Page's behavior time and time again.

September 10, 2011 at 3:38 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Bennett the Obama worshiper will NEVER touch this subject. The rest of the country is talking about it, but Clay's idiology forces him to pass.

http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/2011/09/09/91712

September 10, 2011 at 5:03 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP, you whine like a two year old.

September 10, 2011 at 5:25 p.m.
lanaland said...

He's trying very, very hard to distract from the subject of this thread. Does he work for the administration, or sympathize with perverts?

September 10, 2011 at 5:53 p.m.
Selah said...

> Mountainlaurel..."Sometimes enough is enough even when it involves "good ole boys."

Guess what? He still is employed and will probably be connected to another well paid city job or city connected company.

September 10, 2011 at 9:46 p.m.

This is what the work of a great cartoonist looks like...(BigRidge)

http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/henrypayne

why MrRidge i dont know what all the fuss is about when you are so good to try to give even balance here. your toon is so funny hehe and true. the other one too cause what this peoples need here is more truth not less!

I see MrB won lots of rewards like the Poo-litzher and he likes to be so smart but i see his toons are the same kind of drawing over and over. now some peoples like same same ole but other peoples like diffrent colorings and diversment ya know? maybe MrsBlond is not so dumb huh?

alot of the demoncarts like to call you bad names and when you show facts they are very mean to you no? but what i see is MrB and them like to point out alot of faults on one side and call co-servative folks bad names but they get REAL mad when you show them ther own bad ways.

uh oh. my daddy and mama tot us to be compassion just like the librall peoples say all the time they are. but then why do they act like bad demons that need spankings? why why MrRidge?

thankie Mr Ridge for your goodness and funnies!

September 10, 2011 at 9:51 p.m.
alprova said...

Just what we need -- another "compassionate conservative" who writes like he didn't make past the ninth grade.

September 10, 2011 at 11:13 p.m.
dude_abides said...

It's funny to see conservative posters trumpet Payne's awards from the same institutions I have seen them trash for giving awards to Bennett. First they vilify them, calling them communist, elitist, liberal wacko institutions, then solemnly cite them as proof of their favorite cartoonist's prominence. It's comical, in a poisonous, bitter kind of way.

September 10, 2011 at 11:29 p.m.

Just what we need -- another "compassionate conservative" who writes like he didn't make past the ninth grade.(mrsalpoova)

thanky mrsA thanky for makin me smart to get to the nines grade. i isnt smart like you say yur so smart hehe!

iknow yur a madwoMan but i will sureli pray for you cause you have two much angur and maybe you hate the co-servative 2 much too.

well today is 9-11-11 and i will cry alot for all the famlies of those peoples in 9-11 towers and its too late for the evil demons that killes all the thowsands of peoples and still today. but i furget we cant say the truth we hav to say fredum fiters or driver by shootins or some such! ay ay ay

September 11, 2011 at 12:11 a.m.
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