published Tuesday, April 10th, 2012

Romney vs. Obama for president in 2012?

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    Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney
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Do you think Mitt Romney could beat Obama?

We long have known that President Barack Obama was going to be running for a second term as president of our United States this year.

But we have been wondering who the Republicans' presidential nominee would be.

Will Republicans nominate Mitt Romney -- or Rick Santorum, or Newt Gingrich, or somebody else?

Well, the suspense apparently is over: The math of GOP national delegate counts indicates that Romney is going to be the Republican presidential nominee.

There are still GOP primary elections ahead in 19 states. But it appears that Romney will have enough Republican National Convention delegates to make him the Republican presidential nominee -- although Santorum says he's still running.

Are you excited, encouraged, dismayed, or do you have some other reaction?

Do you believe Obama or Romney will provide the high quality of character, intelligence, judgment and inspiration in domestic policy, foreign policy and leadership in general that we need in our beloved United States for the next four years?

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joneses said...

Why does Obastard not campaign on his awesome record? $16,000,000,000,000.00 deficit with no end in sight, no budget for his entire term, highest unemployment ever for any president , more people on welfare than any president ever, highest gas prices in history just like the deficit, failed obamacare, failed stimulus package, weak and failing foreign policies, a ridiculous energy policy, committing more troops into afghanistan, the ndaa, spending multi millions of tax dollars for personal use, attacking the catholic church, dividing race, gender, religion & wealthy people with all his hate speech, bowing to our enemies and giving them billions of our tax dollars while stabbing our allies in their backs , his illegal libyan war, the muslim brotherhood in the white house, keeping gitmo opened, threatening and disrespecting the supreme court, disrespecting our constitution, disrespecting our veterans, appointing communist radical czars, spending almost $1,000,000.00 to hide his college records and past, a fake birth certificate, his father being a communist, his twisted and sordid upbringing, his indonesian muslim transgender prostitute nanny, his communist grand parents and life long friends, his denied muslim faith, his racist church of 20 years, the new black panthers, his association with known weather underground admitted communist Bill Ayers, his wifes hatred of our flag and shame for this country, his arrogance and hypocrisy... obamas the best president ever, just ask him or any of his brain washed followers. Bennetts cartoons are a bigger joke than Barry Soetoro aka Hussien Obama, aka, obastard. What is really pathetic and disgusting is you liberals are proud of this fool of a president.

April 10, 2012 at 5:01 a.m.
ann said...

I agree with what joneses said 100%,obama is a fruad,Romney will make a much better president,just wait and see when he takes office in january 2013,no more obama care either

April 10, 2012 at 5:26 a.m.

I could not agree more with both of you. But unfortunately we will now be attacked by those that refuse to admit how foolish they were for voting for Obama in the 1st place.

April 10, 2012 at 8:50 a.m.
nucanuck said...

Apparently joneses can't think of one good thing to say about Romney. I agree, it is difficult.

April 10, 2012 at 9:43 a.m.
charivara said...

Joneses and friends: Rather than relying on lies, misrepresentations, and outright fabrications to excuse your venomous hatred of the President of the United States, elected by a popular majority of Americans voters, just come out and say it: Barack Obama’s greatest mistake is that he chose an African parent. But then, honesty is not something you seem to know anything about. You wallow in ignorance and bigotry. Easy marks for those who are in fact taking away your liberty and property.

April 10, 2012 at 10:23 a.m.
nurseforjustice said...

Nucanuck, One thing I can say for Romney is that he ain't Obama. I think you would even agree that Obama's agenda is killing America.

April 10, 2012 at 11:53 a.m.
dfclapp said...

Seven good things to say about Romney: he is a conservative pragmatist who treats his clients' money with respect whether in the state house, rescuing the Olympics, or helping a business succeed; his personal character and love for & loyalty to this country is beyond question; his personal humanity has been proven many times in under-publicized acts of helping others; he will work with anyone to solve problems and offer the leadership to get it done; he finds and encourages diverse experts to look at each problem from different angles and plays the devil's advocate until a good solution is found; the one thing that never shifts for Romney the politician is ownership of whatever problem he decides to tackle; he knows how to listen when it counts.

April 10, 2012 at 1:36 p.m.
nucanuck said...

Policy differences between Romney and Obama are nothing more than different shades of grey. Neither has an economic policy that will avoid the unavoidable pain of debt reduction. Neither can control the price of oil. Neither can create growth in an over-leveraged environment. Neither has the guts to pull back from Iran. Neither can find a workable solution for health care...

Both men are of high character despite what many loose cannons might say about them.

America has become ungovernable and we should not expect that to change with a different name plate on the White House door.

April 10, 2012 at 2:38 p.m.
dfclapp said...

Fair enough in all respects, nucanuck, except, I hope, in the last one. I intend to do everything I can in this election to put people in office who care more about working together for the good of the country than a party line. Both Romney and President Obama are good strategists in achieving their goals, but Romney has a much better resume in terms of leading broken systems of individuals to a mutually satisfactory solution while expecting them to sacrifice whatever is necessary to accomplish the goal. I trust him more than anyone else in addressing the deficit while maintaining necessary services and defence.

April 10, 2012 at 3:11 p.m.
chatt_man said...

charivara - although I'm not "all wise", as chet has bestowed upon me in the past, I have read the list that joneses posted. And I have to admit I can't find the lies, misrepresentations, and outright fabrications you mention.

Other than the muslim brotherhood in the white house, and the indonesian muslim transgender prostitute nanny, that I'm not aware of, please enlighten me where each of the others are incorrect.

Your statement about his "choosing an African parent" is of your own making. I don't see anyone except you mentioning that. Hmmm?

I'll ask again... please enlighten me where each of the others are incorrect?

April 10, 2012 at 4:47 p.m.
chatt_man said...

charivara - although I'm not "all wise", as chet has bestowed upon me in the past, I have read the list that joneses posted. And I have to admit I can't find the lies, misrepresentations, and outright fabrications you mention.

Other than the muslim brotherhood in the white house, and the indonesian muslim transgender prostitute nanny, that I'm not aware of, please enlighten me where each of the others are incorrect.

Your statement about his "choosing an African parent" is of your own making. I don't see anyone except you mentioning that. Hmmm...

I'll ask again... please enlighten me where each of the others are incorrect?

April 10, 2012 at 4:48 p.m.
nucanuck said...

dfclapp, Romney was able to utilize family money to participate in leveraged buy-outs of mostly American companies. That sounds OK until you look into what LBOs really did. They stripped away assets. loaded up the companies with debt and re-sold them. Many of those companies could not survive the increased debt loads and they failed. There is nothing noble about the LBO business. In my opinion LBOs weaked American businesses and helped open the door to foreign competition.

That doesn't make Romney a bad guy, but neither should that be a credential for his business acumen. He is a decent, if somewhat boring candidate who could be our next President if the economy falters between now and November.

He will need more women voters than the obedient southern women if he is going to beat Obama,JMO.

April 10, 2012 at 5:23 p.m.
chet123 said...

JONESES...YOU MUST STAYED UP ALL NITE CREATING THAT ESSAY THAT YOU PLAGIARIZE FROM YOUR HATE LINKS.........GET USE TO IT JONESES....HES YOUR PRESIDENT.....YOU WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HIM FOR A SON-IN-LAW HA HA HA HA HA..OR GRAND-SON IN-LAW JONESES HA HA HA

April 10, 2012 at 6:48 p.m.
dfclapp said...

Romney was recruited by Bain after graduating with dual degrees from Harvard in Law and Business. They were not the only ones to offer him a job and reaped enough success through his work to propose that he run a separate company called Bain Capital for them, something he initially refused until they gave him an ironclad contract that eliminated his vulnerability. This and his initial funding was all based on his talent, not his money. It was his conservative nature and unwillingness to put his family's welfare at risk that made him hesitant in the first place.

While I'm not fully in the Greenspan camp, I do agree that what Romney did was good for the country and for the companies he helped through his firm. If he hadn't done what he did, they would have either failed or stagnated. Bain Capital made him and all their other investors rich precisely because his average for improving the value of the companies was extraordinarily high.

When the original Bain Company was in trouble, they turned to Romney to rescue them because they knew that he would do whatever it took to help them survive, and they followed his advice to the letter in order to achieve that victory. In my mind, he has more in common with George Bailey in being the reliable person others turned to, than some isolated cold-hearted Potter only concerned about his money (It's a Wonderful Life, if you are not a movie lover).

Just as he completely closed down Bain to hunt for the last daughter of one of his partners, his personal priorities come from a good heart, and it is that heart combined with his good business sense and ownership of any problem he addresses that made the Salt Lake Olympic Committee turn to him instead of to the otherwise excellent Jon Huntsman who was already there and willing to help.

I agree that there are many things that can go wrong between now and November, but think Romney will be a much better candidate now than he was in 2008, and he has done very well with female voters in the past. We will see. I expect both candidates to say and do anything to win, and would be wasting the money of their supporters to do anything less

April 10, 2012 at 7:20 p.m.
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