published Monday, April 23rd, 2012

5 at 10: Draft week, UT wraps spring and iconic venues

From the "Talks Too Much Studios" here we go.

Draft part I

Draft Week is here. We're pretty pumped. We love the draft. You know this.

Last week we broke down the offensive prospects in this class. This week, let's do the defense. But before we get started, we must do a little housecleaning. First, here are the rules for our second-annual We Love the Draft pick contest:

• First SEC player picked

• First Titans pick (No. 20 overall)

• First Steelers pick (No. 24 overall)

• First Falcons pick (23rd pick of the second round)

• Where does B.J. Coleman end up?

One point for each with the following tie-breaker: Who is Mr. Irrelevant, the title reserved for the final pick of the draft? (If you get this right, you'll get a special prize, but if there's a tie between entries, the pick closest to last will break the tie.)

Second piece of housecleaning involves our SEC ace David Paschall's highly interesting draft story about former Vols Janzen Jackson and Bryce Brown . Amid all the coaching turnovers and emotional unrest of the last three years of UT football, here may be the most telling fact of all: There likely will be more former UT players (left for transfers) drafted than former UT players (left for expired eligibility). There will almost assuredly be three transfered former Vols — B.J. Coleman, Lennon Creer and Jackson — compared to two Vols — Tauren Poole and Malik Jackson — who played in Knoxville last year.


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    South Carolina defensive tackle Melvin Ingram (6) catches Tennessee quarterback Tyler Bray (8) for a sack after he was first hit by South Carolina safety Antonio Allen (26), right, during the fourth quarter in an NCAA college football game at Williams Brice Stadium on Saturday, Oct. 30, 2010, in Columbia, SC. (AP Photo/Rich Glickstein)

Draft position breakdown: Defensive line

The foremost desire of every NFL defensive coordinator is getting to the quarterback. Coaches talk about stopping the run because that's what they're trained to do. But in today's NFL in particular and becoming football in general, if you can't get to the quarterback, you can't get off the field. Period.

And if a defense can get to the quarterback using its four-man defensive front, that makes defensive coordinators happier than not being Gregg Williams.

That starts up front with the defensive line, where pass-rushing defensive ends and double-team-demanding defensive tackles have become as coveted as early issues of Apple stock.

This year is no exception and to further prove that point, UNC defensive end Quinton Coples is arguably the biggest question mark in the first round. Coples is built like an elite pass rusher — a shade under 6-foot-6, 284 pounds and with enough speed to turn the corner against almost any tackle. But, Coples' effort and intensity and work ethic has come under question.

If the 5-at-10 was a GM, we'd have a hard time spending a first rounder on someone with questions about effort. But the ability to get to the quarterback is so important, it can overshadow a lack of willingness to do it consistently.

Defensive line top 10

1) DE Melvin Ingram, South Carolina

2) DT Dontari Poe, Memphis

3) DT Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State

4) DE Quinton Coples, UNC

5) DT Michael Brockers, LSU

6) DE Courtney Upshaw, Alabama

7) DE Chandler Jones, Syracuse

8) DT Jerel Worthy, Michigan State

9) DE Andre Branch, Clemson

10) DE Nick Perry, USC


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    Tennessee wide receiver Justin Hunter performs in a drill during spring NCAA college football practice, Thursday, March 29, 2012, in Knoxville, Tenn.
    Photo by (AP Photo by Amy Smotherman Burgess/The Knoxville News Sentinel)

That's a wrap in Knoxville

OK, let's call it a spring. The Vols closed spring drills Saturday with an Orange-and-White game that revealed more than normal but still left a few question marks in between.

Here's what the 5-at-10 believes we know as of this morning.

— Sophomore safety Brian Randolph will be a stud duck. And it's a good thing, too,. because...

— The secondary has a lot of question marks.

— Marlin Lane finished strong and will get the first crack at the tailback job come August. This is a good development.

— Da'Rick Rogers remains arguably the single biggest unknown in the SEC. Dude could be a first-team All-American next fall; dude could transfer before Memorial Day. Who knows?

— Tyler Bray looks better poised, but as our ace columnist Mark Wiedmer asked this weekend, is a better Bray enough for a UT team that needs him to be better than better. (We promise that made sense when we started.)

— The kicking game is in shambles.

Let the dissecting begin. When does football season start?


This and that

— Wow, we blink our eyes and do a little spring yard work and your Atlanta Braves turned into a slow-pitch softball team. Everyone is hitting the ball hard and it seems like every RBI chance is getting cashed. Other than a couple of sketchy moments for the umpiring crew Sunday, the Braves would be the hottest team in the majors. We're planning on having a daily update on Atlanta's west cost swing into L.A. this week against the red-hot Dodgers since those games are going to be super-late. But that's why we're here. We work the late shift. And the early shift.

— Denny Hamlin used some late-race good fortune to pass Martin Truex Jr. and win at the Kansas Speedway. And yes, that's two Toyota cars up front. And yes, this is Hamlin's second win for this year. Interesting, huh?

— How does a guy named Metta World Peace throw the most violent elbow in the NBA this year? Ah, here's saying the marketing phrase "NBA basketball... Where accidental assault happens" will not make the final cut for the playoffs. Peace, the thug formerly known as Ron Artest, landed a power elbow into James Harden's head Sunday, overshadowing what was an entertaining double-overtime Lakers' win over Harden and the Thunder. First point, the NBA playoffs are going to be fun and here's saying the Thunder and the Lakers will be highly entertaining in the postseason. Second point, Peace, who rightly was ejected and faces suspension, said the elbow was accidental after an emotional dunk late in the second quarter. It could have been part of an over-the-top emotional celebration, but it was still worthy of a suspension. Third point, the strike-shortened season has made rest and injury a MONSTER factor this season.

— From the scratch your head file: Apparently Penn State is in the process of paying the Paterno estate more than $5 million and offered to rename the stadium after former coach Joe Paterno in hopes that the Paterno family will not sue the school. Say what? You know the back story — Joe Pa crafts a legendary program, it's torn down amid the cover up of Jerry Sandusky's evilness, etc. — and who knows what the future story will hold? Wow.


Today's question

It was kind of a crazy weekend, right? We mean, things escalated in a hurry, and Brick killed a guy.

Somewhere in the greater Northeast, Spy's new all-time favorite fellow Bobby Valentine was enduring a less than enjoyable Friday-Saturday blend. After he questioned the heart of one of the team's most popular players and was called out by the team's best regular, Bobby V has become the face of the angst of Red Sox fans everywhere. To make matters worse, the Sox lost a pair to the hated New York Yankees this weekend, including a historic 15-9 loss after building a 9-0 lead Saturday as the organization celebrated 100 years of Fenway Park.

Today's question is as either/or...

Who is in a worse spot than Bobby V. right now? We'd say, Bobby is in a little bit better spot than Sgt. Pembry, the Memphis police officer who brought Dr. Lector his lamb chops, but Bobby's week is just getting started.

Or, what is your Mount Rushmore of current sports venues? They destroyed the old Yankee Stadium and the Boston Garden. Here's our four — Augusta National, Fenway, Wrigley and Lambeau Field. It was tough leaving out Notre Dame's football stadium, Madison Square Garden and Cameron Indoor Stadium, but so it goes.


about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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chas9 said...

Da'Rick is toast. Which goes well with fava beans and chianti.

April 23, 2012 at 10:11 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

Quick question Jay- what do you mean by where does BJ Coleman end up? Do you mean what round and what pick does he end up going? What round does he end up going? What team does he end up going to? Because he could go in the third round or the fifth round and have it be the same team. Also, read some random rumor about the Steelers trading out of their pick. If somebody trades out of their pick, are you still asking for first player taken by that team- even if they move up to #12 or drop back into the third round?

And I'm a little angry about the Bryce Brown article- he was my pick for Mr. Irrelevant long before this article came out- now other people might steal it!

April 23, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

What doesn't go well with fava beans and a nice chianti?

StuckinKent —

Great questions, and we're remiss we didn't include this.

If any of the teams trade down, it's still their first pick. If the Titans trade so much that there first pick is Saturday at 1 p.m., so be it. (We guess it's possible that a team could trade all it's picks, and if that happens, then no points will be awarded.)

As far as B.J. goes, we're just looking for the team that drafts him.

We think Bryce Brown is a fair call on that Mr. Irrelevant. Although not such a secret call anymore... Stupid TFP.

— 5-at-10

April 23, 2012 at 10:20 a.m.
Todd962 said...

Quinton People's is like sex panther. 60% of the time he works everytime. And with Albert Haynesworth's incredible work ethic looming in the back of a few people's minds, I am sure teams will be taking more than a second look at a guy that is already having his work ethic questioned.

Bobby V. probably isnt on Pembry level just yet but if this season continues as it has there will probably be more than one Sox fan who wants to wear his face.

John Cofer got choked out in the third round on the Ultimate Fighter via an arm triangle and as always I love lamp.

April 23, 2012 at 11:17 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

I've been to three of the four venues you listed, O Great 5. Can't argue with the list at all.

As much as I loathe Bobby V, he can't throw pitches for what is clearly a wretched excuse of a relief corps. From Vicente Padilla to Alfredo Aceves to Matt Albers and the other washouts, has-beens and never-wases that constitute the Red Sox bullpen, it's like watching a constant train wreck. And I've been to a train wreck. It ain't pretty.

April 23, 2012 at 11:37 a.m.
chas9 said...

Depends on what you mean by sports. Don't forget Churchill Downs. And Wimbledon. Rose Bowl?

April 23, 2012 at 12:06 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Mr. 962 —

Do you really love lamp or are you just saying that?

And if the Red Sox continue at this pace, there's no way Booby V. will be able to save any type of face at all.

Spy —

Sadly, we've only been to one of the four — but we have played the grounds twice. We have a pool and a pond. Pond would be good for you.

And what's this tempered and measured response to the travails that are Booby V?

And are you sure Vicente Padilla is still alive? Enrico Palazzo, Enrico Palazzo, Enrico Palazzo.

— 5-at-10

April 23, 2012 at 12:09 p.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

Chruchill Downs is a good call, as is Wimbledon.

Rose Bowl is a knock-off. Besides, if you go there, you would in some ways be condoning Lane Kiffin in some way, shape or form.

Our man WGossett added those two, as well.

— 5-at-10

April 23, 2012 at 12:34 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

I also made Tiger Stadium, which was awesome. And I saw the Montreal Canadiens play at the old Montreal Forum, which was almost like going to a Hall of Fame in its own right. Back when the family that owns the Molson brand also owned Les Habitantes, a Canadiens game at the Forum was nothing short of magical. Best seats I've ever had were there - front row, upper deck, center ice.

April 23, 2012 at 12:54 p.m.
fechancellor said...

10 Ring,

Augusta as a venue, truly inspired. Have you seen Charles Barkley speaking for Weight Watchers? What's up with the "Bread Truck's" voice which is now a rasp?

April 23, 2012 at 1:07 p.m.
chas9 said...

Another reason to shun the Rose Bowl is so as not to appear to lend any credibility to the wacky proposed championship playoff that gives the Big Ten and Pac Ten/Twelve/Eight an inside track.

April 23, 2012 at 1:23 p.m.

What do you think about St. Andrews? I love Augusta National as much as anyone, but Bobby Jones built it as a tribute to his favorite course. Gotta give an honorable mention to 16th at TPC Scottsdale. Absolutely as unique to golf as any other venue to it's sport.

April 23, 2012 at 1:47 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...

First SEC player, Richardson, Alabama

First Titan (20), Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama

First Steeler (24), Donta Hightower, Alabama

First Falcon, Bobbie Massie, Tackle, Ole Miss

BJ Coleman drafted by Cardinals

Mr Irrelevant: Randy Bullock-kicker-Texas A&M

April 23, 2012 at 1:50 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Spy —

Good hockey seats are choice. The young 5-at-10 went to a Flames game in the late 1970s and our Pop caught a puck.

FE to the C —

Noticed Chuck's rasp — that is until the WW commercial in which he's dressed like a hooker. No need to discuss this again.

Maybe it's too many trips to the casino — the smoke in those joints can be overpowering.

9er —

Amen. And Delaney can take a short walk off a long limb if he thinks the Pac-2-4-6-8-10-12 and the Big10-11-12 can play in the Rose Bowl semifinal every year. Please. They need to have a national playoff to see which team gets the fourth spot from the top 3 in the SEC.

Addicted —

Wow, this Mt. Rushmore was harder than we thought. St. Andrews has to be on there. Has to. And as far as great golf spots like the 16th at Scottsdale, there's the 17th at Sawgrass, Amen Corner, the Road hole, wait... we smell another Rushmore coming.

Laugher —

Wow. Your list and ours are pretty close.

Here's an updated list

Richardson Kirkpatrick Hightower Jeff Allen Pittsburgh Drew Butler as Mr. Irrelevant

McPell's list

First SEC player picked – Trent Richardson

First Titans pick (No. 20 overall) – Dre Kirkpatrick

First Steelers pick (No. 24 overall) – Kendall Wright

First Falcons pick (23rd pick of the second round) – Mitchell Schwartz

Where does B.J. Coleman end up? – Denver Broncos

Mr. Irrelevant – Jake Gdowski from Colorado State

— 5-at-10

April 23, 2012 at 2:20 p.m.
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