published Tuesday, August 7th, 2012

'Misconceptions about 2000 vote' and more Letters to the Editors

Misconceptions about 2000 vote

Recently, you ran a letter that described the Bush presidency as "illegitimate." I can only assume the writer was referring to the Florida election returns of 2000. As a Florida resident at that time, I would like to correct a few misconceptions.

The county which created the most controversy in regard to the poor ballots used was designed and approved by the supervisor of elections, who by the way, was a Democrat. After several recounts, the result stayed the same.

The major news networks called the state for Al Gore before the polls closed in the Panhandle, which is heavily Republican. This was certainly ethically questionable. It also cost Bush votes since some folks there didn't vote.

The other interesting fact regarding the 2000 election was that if Gore would have carried his own state of Tennessee, "which he did not," he would have been our president. I hope this sheds a little light on the "illegitimate presidency."

JOHN GOURLEY

Rossville, Ga.


Hospital caregivers are top notch

Recently I spent 10 days at a local hospital, which one is irrelevant.

The care I received from these young men and women, however, was so tremendous and inspiring. My respect for nurses will never be more gratifying.

May God bless each of these caregivers.

GERALD E. LAFRENIERE


Opinion piece short on facts

Mark West's opinion piece (Aug. 1) regarding government overreach is, like most tea party propaganda, long on oversimplification and distortion and short on facts.

And his assertion that the public money given to the EPB is an attack on small business is ridiculous on its face. Chattanooga has benefited enormously from the efforts of the EPB and has taken a place on the national stage because of it. When Mr. West writes the "the potential for failure is certainly evident," I wonder to whom this is evident. It is certainly not evident to me. And EPB is not competing against small business but one very large monopoly.

It seems Mr. West would have us put our fates in the hands of "big insurance" and corporate interest rather than in the democratic form of government where we elect our representatives and send them to govern in our interests. And half-truths and scare tactics are the tools he and his associates would use to accomplish that. They say they are protecting individual freedom, but our government is what protects that through the Constitution and a system of checks and balances built over many years by public servants.

LARRY ORTEGA

Which guns do I get to keep?

You get the sense that liberals today only want you to keep the guns you need to defend your home or to hunt.

So, do I get to keep a .22 rifle for squirrels, a .303 for deer and a .270 for moose and elk?

And to defend my home, can I have a gun at each entrance? Or if a robber breaks down my back door, do I have to run from the back door to the front door to find a gun? And who decides on the caliber needed for each gun?

Can I keep the 1909 $4.50 12-gauge, single-barrel, breech-loading shotgun given by my grandfather to my dad on his 12th birthday, or the .270 Winchester I gave him for his 50th birthday?

Many of the greatest crime cities in the U.S. are those with the strictest gun laws! Think Chicago!

Want to save lots of lives? Outlaw liquor and cigarettes!

After all, "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

JACK PARNELL

Collegedale


It's people who build businesses

In his recent statement, President Obama revealed his belief that it was not business owners who built their businesses. Obama told us that government was responsible. I think the president lacks the experience to know who really built our business, and I am now going to tell him who did build it.

I was involved in helping my husband build a business over 55 years ago that is still in existence today. Government did not step in to take the risks that over the years had to be taken; government did not loan us the money when it was so needed; government did not help us rebuild after a storm almost destroyed the business; it was not government that came and helped set up a temporary place to do business and work night and day to get it up and running again. It was my husband, our family and our employees who worked so hard and sacrificed so much for our business.

For 55 years, we paid taxes for all those government services that Obama credits for building our business. He never even gave us credit for that!

The truth is God has used many people over the years to come to our aid, but never government.

LILL COKER


Voting system is frustrating

I'm newly arrived in Tennessee and headed out with my documents to vote. I was asked to declare Democrat or Republican, expressed my annoyance that this was my only choice, declined to vote, and left. A campaign worker nearby helpfully offered to escort me back in to see if I could vote in the general and municipal parts of the election. I was allowed, the polling worker learned she should have offered me that option (and she thanked me for coming back and apologized), and I cast my ballot.

But I was still denied the right to fully vote. My parents and faith have taught me that I'm to vote for the most qualified people as best as I can determine that, not along party lines. If I declare a party on the voting card, not only am I lying, since I have no party affiliation, but I'm not given the right to choose qualified candidates from both parties. The polarized party system declaration robs me of the right to make that choice. As happened in Ohio, here in Tennessee, I cannot vote in primary elections as a matter of principle. I feel angry and frustrated when primary elections occur this way.

SUSANNE M. ALEXANDER

Hixson

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aae1049 said...

Why can't Tennessee have an Independent Ballot? Would it require a State Constitution amendment or what? I am just not clear on how to make that happen.

August 7, 2012 at 12:18 a.m.

JOHN GOURLEY, while a lot of focus went onto that one Florida County in that election, there's actually a lot more things that happened in that state. Polls were overloaded or closed. Voters were disenfranchised. This happened statewide.

Yet you would have us focus on one of Florida's 67 counties. Why is that?

JACK PARNELL, now consider the actual enforcement of the laws. Yeah, sorry, but if we could keep the guns off the streets, it might do some good. But that's not allowed.

LILL COKER, thank you for once again repeating the misrepresentation of what Obama ACTUALLY said. I think you lack the experience to know the difference between what somebody says and what somebody else deceptively purports another to have said.

And if you are sure the taxes you paid actually covered the government services you received that enabled your business to function, you won't mind showing us an accounting.

SUSANNE M. ALEXANDER, if you want to suggest adopting a Jungle Primary or an Open Primary you can, but I doubt it'll happen.

August 7, 2012 at 11:07 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Jack Parnell, your letter is nonsense. I'm a liberal and while I can't speak for all liberals I can speak for most of the ones I know. Keep all of your friggin' guns, sir. Have a gun of every caliber and description at every door of your home if it makes you feel better. Sleep with your guns, eat with them, and make love to them if you want to. We are not wanting anybody to come and take away your precious guns or dictate how many you have or tell you where in your house you can keep them. We just think there ought to be more sane and sensible laws to keep people from buying those damn automatic and semi-automatic weapons that are made for one purpose and one purpose only: to kill the most number of people in the shortest amount of time. No civilian, for any reason whatsoever, needs those mass murder weapons in our society, neither for hunting nor self-defense.

Some few liberals would like for us to be a society of no guns at all, but there are no libs I know who are stupid enough to think that it would ever be possible to un-invent the gun, which would be the only way to make guns disappear. And most libs I know own a gun, or guns. I myself have one. I don't hunt but I feel better having one at home, just in case.

We can never have an honest and logical discussion about gun rights and laws as long as people like you keep spreading the lie that liberals just want to do away with the second amendment and take away everybody's guns. So chill out, Mr. Parnell. Slogans such as the one you and most wing-nuts like to recite or stick on the bumper of your car ("When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns") might sound clever but they are all blather and nonsense and have nothing to do with the actual debate or the situation at hand.

August 7, 2012 at 11:46 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Good point in reference to John Gourley's letter, bulbs. The ways in which the 2000 presidential election was literally stolen were egregious and they happened state-wide. To focus one one county, as Mr. Gourley does, is only one tiny fragment of the whole story. And Mr. Gourley, to blame Al Gore's losing the election on the fact that he did not carry his own state of Tennessee does not exonerate Florida and its many Republican accomplices from the sleazy, slime-ball tactics they employed to STEAL that election.

August 7, 2012 at 12:32 p.m.
Livn4life said...

Anyone who has ever voted Democrat and complains about a "literally stolen" presidency should be completely ashamed. The Demos have rigged elections over and over again. That is common knowledge and I don't watch FOX all you experts. Besides, we have hopefully moved beyond the fiasco caused mostly by the biased media which occurred in 2000. But some of you just can't do it. Al Gore lost lost lost. Do you folk get that? This is 2012 the last time I looked. Move on.

August 7, 2012 at 3:36 p.m.
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