published Wednesday, August 8th, 2012

5-at-10: Alabama support, Olympics splash, college football over/unders

Gang, we're going to move quickly because we're neck deep in football tab stuff. Seiously quickly. And don't forget about Friday's mailbag.

From the "Talks too much" studio, here we go.

College football

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    Alabama quarterbacks AJ McCarron, left, and Phillip Ely look to throw during NCAA college football practice, Tuesday, Aug. 7, 2012, in Tuscaloosa, Ala.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

There's no way not to discuss college football right now.

It's everywhere. Case in point, we're walking down the street outside our building, which is two blocks from the Community Kitchen, which means there are some colorful characters here — and those folks from the Community Kitchen are out there, too (thank you, thank you, we'll be here all week). One fellow comes strolling by talking to no one we can see, stops, turns and says, "You like Alabama this year?"

Now the 5-at-10 understands the passion of the SEC and its fans, and we do not under-sell any of it. We also appreciate the dicey nature of the above question and the situation.

That said, we love Alabama this year.

In fact, the over/unders — the number Vegas sets as the bar for the number of wins each team will get, and you can bet under that total or over it — for all the major college football teams were revised this week, and we think Alabama going over the 10.5 number of wins is a slam dunk.

Experienced quarterback, stable of running backs, underrated receivers and the nation's best offensive line. So the questions appear to be on defense, and if there's any college coach out there you want answering defensive questions, it's Nick Saban, right?

Buckle non-Alabama fans, it's going to be another long year.

Olympic splash down

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    In this screen capture, Germany's Stephan Feck has some trouble while competing in at the 2012 Summer Olympics.
    Photo by Contributed Photo /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

In honor of Todd962's excellent question about which Olympic event would we fail most horribly in, here's a clip for all to enjoy.

It's of a German diver who has either a) Mis-stepped on the board; b) Been drinking on the lake with his buddies and asked someone to hold his beer before he did a "kickin' back-breaker;" c) Tried something completely different to impress the judges with his originality.

More Olympic thoughts:

— Who thinks that Cotton McKnight, the over-the-top play-by-play guy in Dodgeball is based on the yahoos who do the Olympic gymnastics. And does anyone else get a little creeped out by a 45-plus dude gushing about teenage girls?

— Tough break for Lolo Jones. If somehow she and Tim Tebow hooked up, it would be the most overhyped date since when? Not sure, but something tells us that couple who plays vampires the Twi-blah stuff would be so irritated.

— We're starting to get a little ticked off that China is still winning the medal count. C'mon guys and gals. U-S-A! U-S-A!

Minor major

We'll post the entries soon (and we have kept them in order and you're in Debo).

Here's something we've noticed though: In the last two Lee Westwood was a common pick. Granted you got five picks, but there were some Westwood believers.

Now there are more Furyk believers, and he has gagged away two huge wins this year.

We're starting to think Westwood is the Colin Montgomery of this generation. Can he still win a major? We're starting to doubt it, and we're a Westwood fan.

This and that

— Braves took one on the chin, losing 3-0 to Philadelphia. Mike Minor allowed three runs in the first, including a two-run homer by the slugger formerly known as Ryan Howard. We're starting to feel a little more comfortable when Minor pitches; at least we're not certain it's a loss now.

— Word out of Seattle is that T.O. ran a 4.45 40 in his tryout. At 38 years old. Wow. We're starting to think he'd be worth a mid-to-late round flyer in a fantasy league. A motivated T.O.? When was the last time we saw that?

— According to the AP, former East Ridge High School star and Chattanooga State standout Phillip Jurick has been suspended indefinitely by Oklahoma State after being arrested this weekend on possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia.

— Know what, that "paraphernalia" is an underrated word, and if we're the 'r' in "paraphernalia" we're pretty hacked off because everyone skips over us. Everyone.

— Sports writers like round numbers — 10 year, 25 year, even five years — because they make for entry points for looks back. Well, did you know that Tuesday was the five year anniversary of Barry Bonds hitting homer number 756, and there was barely a whisper about it?

Today's question

We think Alabama goes over the 10.5 win total as mentioned above.

What do you think? And what do you think about the following teams in regard to over or under the total? (Side note we set the UTC number, but we wanted to all the Mocs fans a chance to discuss, too)

Auburn over/under 7.5 wins?

Georgia over/under 9.5 wins?

Tennessee over/under 7 wins?

UTC over/under 6.5 wins?


about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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fechancellor said...

10 Ring, "paraphernalia?" Read marijuana and marijuana accessories.

Alabama is way north of 10.5 until proven different.

Auburn's fortunes are a matter of complete indifference to me at best.

Georgia 10.5

How 'bout them Tennessee Vols? If taking the over at 7.5 wins means winning an inconsequential bowl game, this may be doable. Of course, there's no inconsequential at all for Dooley this year.

UTC? Taking the over and hope for the best.

August 8, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.
Stewwie said...

If I had to pick, I'd take the under for Bama and Auburn. I think Bama loses to LSU and then drops one other game. Auburn won't win more than 7 simply because of their tough schedule.

I'd take the over for GA, TN, and UTC. The Mocs' D was head of the class last year, and it will be a little bit better this year (especially on the Strengths on offense are a good collection of RBs and an improved offensive line. Question marks are on the QBs being young and in a new system. (Terrell has to improve his passing from last year too...the Furman game exposed this weakness.) WR is a question mark too...Marlon Anthony needs to have a breakout year if he's going to be the #1 guy. Either way, Faysal Shafaat should have a good year at TE. This team should win at least 7 games. Last year's team was 5 points away from 9-2.

August 8, 2012 at 11:12 a.m.
Todd962 said...

I think the most embarassing part about me being an Olympic Amatuer High Diver would be the several hours of waiting time following my performance. Cause they have to drain the entire pool after incidents like that and that wasnt a Baby Ruth that was scared out of my speedo. I could deal with the world knowing I scream like a girl and the pain that would be incurred, but to delay the Olympics 12 hours so Bill Murray could clean the entire pool would be more embarassment than I care to handle.

And on the other end of the spectrum for things caught on camera....anybody see the guy catch the thrown bat "tiger claw" style in the Braves game? Gentleman had a row of young ladies sitting behind him, one of which had a young child, and he snatched the rogue bat out the air like it was his job. Pretty awesome feeling being on national television and saving lives one bat at a time.

August 8, 2012 at 11:20 a.m.
jgreeson said...


Quick question about the German Olympian who did the reversed belly flop in the Olympics:

Dude has trained his whole life to drop a Triple-Lindy at the Augusta National of diving and lays an egg. But here's our question, because, well, we're the 5-at-10 and this is the stuff we think about: How long before his German buddies can give him grief for this? What's the grace period on a back-breaker from the 3 meter board in the Olympics? A year? More?



August 8, 2012 at 11:35 a.m.
BIspy4 said...





Roger and out. Oh, wait. I have more. There's only like a billion and a half Chinese, about five times more people than in the land of baseball, hot dogs and Chev-roll-ays. (Then again, India stinks at Olympic sports. That's India, the country and subcontinent).

Anyway, it's all about the gold. As Gorilla Monsoon once said to Rowdy Roddy Piper - "You, sir, are without gold, again," following a Piper title match loss.

And the German back-flopper? Never lives it down. Never. Forty years from now, he and his teammates will be in a bar in Berchtesgarden, knocking back a few steins of Warsteiner and someone will go ... "So ... Stefan ... how's your back?"

August 8, 2012 at 12:05 p.m.
deboman said...

I think the German guy gets over it fairly quick and he’s getting razzled by the end of the day. Heck, here in the States he’d already be lined up for the late night circuit. The person who is really going to be answering some serious questions is the guy they caught throwing the bottle, looked like an empty Heinekin, onto the track just before the start of the men’s 100m dash. Not that security was lacking, but this guy was right next to a Dutch judo chick who took him down with a quick shot to the back. Pretty sure it was just the start of painful exit from the stadium.

August 8, 2012 at 12:05 p.m.
chas9 said...

Why pick on 45-year olds? Todd, Spy, fec and I wish we could remember 45. Imagine if we were doing the commentary. No, wait. Don't.

Really, it's just a tough deal for anybody commentating. I'd be easier if those sweet young things wore more modest, Muslim style workout clothes. Today I heard a commentator suggest that the girl gymnasts lose the make-up and glittery costumes, and focus more on the athletics. Not a bad idea.

But I still like bikinis for beach volleyball.

Interesting point about Bonds. I hope we'll all just ignore him and pretend it never happened. Fathead McGwire, too.

August 8, 2012 at 12:17 p.m.
fechancellor said...

I believe the term best describing this unfortunate is "brückebrecher." One of the keen attributes of the German language is the ability to string two or more words together at near whim to produce whatever phrasing necessary.

The laugh track follows this man around for a life time.

August 8, 2012 at 12:49 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Bad dive guy is going to make a great guest on Dieter's next "Sprockets."

August 8, 2012 at 1:03 p.m.
ordinaryguy said...

What the heck here goes...

Auburn under but by just a whisker

Georgia over but still lose the eventual SEC East Champs USC

Tennessee to steal from a great TV show SIX FEET UNDER

UTC over with plenty of room to spare

August 8, 2012 at 1:50 p.m.

I'm with the consensus, I'll take Ga over 9.5. I think the first time our German Olympian has a few too many nips with the guys, someone gives him a jab about the dive. He either laughs with them or clocks him one. Nothing like letting the booze decide your reaction. And if Lolo and Tim got married, her name would be Lolo Tebow. Now read that again.

August 8, 2012 at 1:54 p.m.
Todd962 said...

So I am not the only one who is upset about China leading in medals? Great. I think we need some serious Olympic evaluations with regards to what a sport is to help remedy this tragedy.

Rule #1: If you can play it in your mom's basement after drinking two two-liters of Mountain Dew. It's not an Olympic sport.

Rule #2: If you can play it at a family reunion and it inspires your drunk uncle to keep screaming "Dont touch my shuttlecock" with a giggle to follow. It's not an Olympic sport.

Boom. No table tennis, no badmitton. Back on top. And the world is at peace again. USA all the way!

August 8, 2012 at 2:07 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Spy —

We think they all go over.

And if — and this is a big if — Kiehl Frazier is ready for prime time, Auburn could be sharp.

And dude, a Gorilla Monsoon shoutout and a German bar scene breakdown. Well-played indeed sir.

Debo —

Did not see the bottle thrower (Was it Tyler Bray?) get taken down by the judo queen. But you're so right — there is no way he's ever living that down.

In fact the biggest catch 22 in all of sports is facing a girl in high school wrestling. If you win, well, you beat a girl. If you don't, you and your family has to move. Period, and there is no in between.

9er —

You bring up a fair point, and we're closer to 45 than we used to be — we'll be 42 in two months.

And maybe it's just because the gymnasts look so much younger, or the overflowing drama these yahoos toss out there, but it feels icky.

FE to the C —

If he plays his cards right, he can flip and reverse this move. What if there's a German Letterman and he goes on there and does a "brückebrecher" on TV. Dude is a star overnight. Heck, William Hung made seven figures from his 90 seconds of humiliation on American Idol.

And the Germans can string two words together and get any idea across. We rednecks can do it too — we just use random cuss words.

Addicted —

Spot on. If dude has a laugh about the "brückebrecher" then it will be great; if not, there will be fights.

And Lolo Tebow — why didn't we mention that? Well played sir.

962 —

We agree with your guidelines. Spot on, and we all have that Uncle.

Where the China folks are killing it is doubling up in the sports they are really good at. Multiple wins in ping-pong (you can call it "table tennis" all you want — it's ping-pong). Side note — None of them want any of Forrest Gump.

Here's the other thing: Why is there 70 different medals given to the different avenues of gymnastics but we don't have room for softball or baseball? Really?

— 5-at-10

August 8, 2012 at 2:33 p.m.
deboman said...

Todd- should be making a move against the Chinese the further we progress through the track events. Only track athlete I have seen them roll out there couldn't make it over the first hurdle even though he was a former gold medalist in the event. U.S. has been consistently putting their allotment of 3 athletes into the finals of the sprint and hurdle events. Two more for the beach volleyball tonight, Guar-un-teed. Among your list to 'remove' from the games may be Trampoline..which was won by Dong.

As for T.O., nothing can get you motivated to get out there and try and earn some cash like being called out by every national media outlet for being a deadbeat dad. Kinda like Travis Henry, who's looking to get back on the gridiron and make some dough after his stint in the pokey.

August 8, 2012 at 3 p.m.
Todd962 said...

Jay, while I agree with you on pong, its table tennis because of the language barriers that are involved. Ping Pong sounds too much like ding dong and if theres an Olympic event that involves playing with that for gold....the line for singles or coed doubles competition starts behind me. Gold for sure.

August 8, 2012 at 3:09 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Stewwie is my new hero! :D He speaks my language and then some. I don't think anyone needs to figure my over/under is for the Mocs. I even believe they have a shot at upsetting Central Florida in the $$$$ game.

Tennessee unfortunately I got to go under 7.5. Dooley still has a lot of rebulding to do and going up against battle-hardened Alabama, Auburn, and LSU isn't going to help their stats.

August 8, 2012 at 3:20 p.m.
Stewwie said...

Jay, I was with you on ping pong until I read Todd's comment. From now until forever, it shall hereby be known solely as table tennis.

Thanks for the props, JC. The Mocs actually open with South Florida, not Central Florida. But here's hoping for a huge upset win right off the bat.

Not saying that your Under call for Da Vols is bad, but TN won't be playing Auburn or LSU this year. I could see a win or loss if they played Auburn, but a definite loss if they had to face the other Tigers. I think Jay is right...this season could end up anywhere between 5 and 10 wins for Da Vols (maybe he used 5 and 10 as the range for a reason?), and the tone for the season will be set with that first game against N.C. State.

August 8, 2012 at 3:51 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent

UTC over 6.5 wins. I think they get 7 and a playoff bid this year.

UGA over 9.5 wins. Why? Have you seen their schedule? If we are counting bowl games, this team is a near lock to win 10 games.

Tennesee over 7 wins. They could win 5. They could win 10. I think it's more likely they win 10 than 5 just based on the talent level. That means that picking eight shouldn't be a problem, right? Counting bowl games? Should get to eight.

Auburn under 7.5 wins. This is another team that could win 5 and could win 10. I think it's slightly more likely that they come up short than Tennessee. I'll go with 7 wins. This team will be all over this number. I pick losses to LSU and Alabama right off the bat. Clemson, Mississippi State, Georgia, Vanderbilt, Texas A&M, and Arkansas are no picnic. I think they come up with 7, but not 8. Close. Very close. Plus, losing Malzahn will hurt. It just has to.

August 8, 2012 at 3:59 p.m.
deboman said...

As for the over/unders… Alabama- Over. Too much depth to not overwhelm the bulk of the schedule, even with potential injuries.

Georgia- Definitely over…could be 5-0 going into the South Cackalacky game without breaking a sweat. Looking at their schedule, could be the only FBS team that faces the triple option two weeks in the row playing back to back games with GaSouthern and GaTech.

Volz- Should be over. Wildcard games are: NCSU out of the gate, season openers always seem to have that ‘Holy Smokes’ factor that can set the tone for the season. Mizzou is also an unknown and could pose unexpected problems.

Mocs- It’ll be a tough over, but they look to go 7-4. If they can pull off a win against Appy, GSU, or Wofford, they may get to 8 and the playoffs.

August 8, 2012 at 4:37 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

::checked the schedule again:: DOH!!! Stewees right. That's what I get for halfa-- reading the schedule.

August 8, 2012 at 8:26 p.m.
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