published Sunday, August 12th, 2012

The Revolt

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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David_Franks said...

Never mind that he might be engaging in critical thinking-- he's nekkid as a jaybird!

August 12, 2012 at 12:08 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

They nominate Paul Ryan and Mr Bennett draws THIS?

August 12, 2012 at 12:24 a.m.
OllieH said...

Maybe Clay was drawing about the Republicans who believe that the Earth is only 6000 years old and that man coexisted with dinosaurs. Or perhaps this drawing represents the conservatives who dismiss the 99% of the scientific community that endorses the reality of climate change. Of course, it might reflect those within the GOP who still believe that the president was born in Kenya, or those who are convinced that he's secretly a Muslim. Then again, maybe this cartoon is about the jugheads who still think you can "pray away the gay" or the ones who see hurricanes and earthquakes as a product of society's moral decay.

My guess is that it represents all of these people, and more.

It doesn't say much about a political party's intellectual prowess when "What papers do you read" has become a 'gotcha question'.

August 12, 2012 at 1:24 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Put the liberal crack pipe down OllieH. You libs are afraid to take care of yourselves and need the government to rock you to sleep at night. You think Obama is going to give you everything you need for free. By the way, when you start your car again, you should slap yourself for contributing to killing the planet. If your house is built of wood, you should lay in shame every night for killing the planet. You libs are brainwashed fools.

August 12, 2012 at 1:43 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Funny. Looks more like an occupy Wall street crowd to me.

August 12, 2012 at 1:50 a.m.
raygunz said...

YOU GOT IT Ollie!

DFTT

August 12, 2012 at 1:51 a.m.
Easy123 said...

OllieH,

'Post of the year' nomination!

August 12, 2012 at 1:53 a.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

As opposed to the Conservative Christians that believe God sent himself (Jesus) to earth on a suicide mission? Only to come back to life on the third day and ascend into Heaven forty days later.

Conservative Christians believe in reincarnation. Jesus was God incarnate.

Conservative Christians believe in objects containing spiritual energy e.g. holy water, rosary beads, Bibles, crucifixes, etc.

Conservative Christians believe in astrology e.g. Star of Bethlehem.

Luke 21:25 - "There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars."

Conservative Christians believe in contact with the dead e.g. prayer.

Conservative Christians believe in "fortune tellers" e.g. Biblical prophesy.

That kind of backfired on you.

Would calling your Conservative Christian brethren "Dumb Azzes" be too kind as well?

Keep laughing, sweetheart. :-)

August 12, 2012 at 3:46 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Ryan was the perfect fit for Mitt's running mate. Extremely conservative voting record without the lunacy demonstrated by some of the other tea party types. Much more consistent than Romney himself. The GOP thought long and hard on this one.

August 12, 2012 at 3:49 a.m.
fairmon said...

It is hard to consider this a political cartoon since neither party or anyone in either party qualifies as the supposedly intelligent thinker. Some of the greatest thinkers may not be credible or act in the best interest of their country or the people therein.

August 12, 2012 at 4:51 a.m.
fairmon said...

The reason the preference for a central government to be the source of all the welfare and other assistance is due to the cost being hidden by the deficits and growing debt. It is less evident than at the local and state level where balanced budgets are supposedly required. Although, some have bonded and committed to future unfunded liabilities that put them in default.

Federal assistance is similar to college scholarships awarded by the school for various reasons. These result in higher cost for those not receiving assistance. This reallocation of cost or wealth redistribution applies to athletic scholarships as well with exceptions where schools have high level football programs and we know how out of hand that gets at times.

To continue the current medicare/medicaid and other welfare spending will require more high paid jobs and the resulting revenue or higher taxes and/or premiums and/or reduced benefits or more debt unless the thinker comes up with something never before discovered.

August 12, 2012 at 5:28 a.m.
EaTn said...

While I was glad that Obama won the last election, deep down I knew it was just postponing the inevitable. Bush and the right-wingers had taken us to the brink and Obama stopped the runaway bus. All that is going to open the eyes of the narrow minded in this country is a total collapse with the right-wingers in control of the house, senate and presidency. Only then will the people demand that Washington work in unison to revive the country, if at all possible.

August 12, 2012 at 6:28 a.m.
MTJohn said...

harp3339 said..."Some of the greatest thinkers may not be credible or act in the best interest of their country or the people therein."

My take on this is slightly different, Harp. The greatest thinkers are very credible, but speaking to audiences who refuse to hear the message. And, their message often is in the best interest of the country - but responding constructively to the message requires courage and a willingness to behave selflessly.

harp3339 said..."The reason the preference for a central government to be the source of all the welfare and other assistance is due to the cost being hidden by the deficits and growing debt."

We need government to do those things that citizens are unable to do for themselves. That obviously includes things like national defense, law enforcement, major infrastructure. But, it also includes the less obvious things - especially mitigating the consequences of our collective selfish behavior. We may aspire to but never will be a land of equal opportunity because some people will always be more equal than others. It is, therefore, rational for our government to administer a variety of social services programs.

I agree that balancing the books will require sacrifice. But, factored into the equation ought to be consideration for all of the reasons that we are facing deficits. We funded the Social Security trust with IOU's and used payroll taxes to fund tax cuts. And, buried in problems with Medicare/Medicaid are excess profits for those in the private sector who assist with the delivery of services - the most egregious example might be the benefits for big pharma that were crafted into Medicare Part B.

August 12, 2012 at 6:43 a.m.
MTJohn said...

EaTn said..."While I was glad that Obama won the last election, deep down I knew it was just postponing the inevitable. Bush and the right-wingers had taken us to the brink and Obama stopped the runaway bus. All that is going to open the eyes of the narrow minded in this country is a total collapse with the right-wingers in control of the house, senate and presidency. Only then will the people demand that Washington work in unison to revive the country, if at all possible."

EaTn - I agree with your sense of the inevitable. But, I don't think you give the Crossroads Cabal enough credit for the way that they have crafted the coup and mobilized their minions. The cabal will soon own our government. But, the rebellion will be one in support of the cabal with a demand to purge the country of the perceived source of the problem, i.e. the evil liberals, welfare recipients, aliens - some legal, others undocumented, etc. etc.

August 12, 2012 at 6:52 a.m.
DJHBRAINERD said...

Congress has an 11% aproval rating. I hear all day about our broken system so what's the best way to fix it? Here in east TN we just send the same folks back to try again. It doesn't take much thinking when we are gerrymandered into safe districts and the public buys the hateful retoric. Of course if I was thinking I would think back to the promise of NAFTA and CAFTA, where both a democratic president and a republican congress signed away our manufacturing base to the third world, with the promise of high tech jobs. Then when the republicans had full control we got a few more free trade bills passed and our high tech jobs went to India and China. And if that wasn't enough the democrates got in there and gave away some more to SE ASIA and the pacific rim. And if you don't believe it just look at the tag on the shirt you are wearing right now. So instead of a person making 20K and paying income taxes/sales taxes/payroll taxes, we get the same man on food stamps and unemployment. Next we demonize him for not having a job. A few million more like him and we get 16trillion in debt with fingers pointing accross the isle. So the good sheeple rise up and demand that we reduce the welfare rolls and reduce medicade for all the free loaders oh and give some tax breaks to the people who do have the money, maybe they'll invest in some jobs this decade since they didn't the last one. The only investing I see them doing is in the stock market making dividends off the cheap third world labor corporations are profiting from. All the while the same people are sent back to try to fix the problem they created. Maybe if we get lucky they will undo all the trade agreements from the last 20 years give tax breaks for companies to invest in machinery and get some manufacturing jobs in the 10-12$ hr range back here in the USA. But that would require more thinking than can be put in a sound bite or 30 second ad.

August 12, 2012 at 7:19 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Wow! Could OllieH be Bulbous? Sadly, Easy123 still sounds like Easy123. Immature, spoiled, and naive.

August 12, 2012 at 8:09 a.m.
fairmon said...

MTJohn responded with.....

We need government to do those things that citizens are unable to do for themselves. That obviously includes things like national I defense, law enforcement, major infrastructure.

I fully agree with this but the opportunity to do those much more efficiently is obvious.

MTJohn added....But, it also includes the less obvious things.

We probably would not agree on many of these and which would best be left to the states. I bet we could reconcile the differences better than those in congress.

MTJohn also said.....

We funded the Social Security trust with IOU's.

Taxes and premiums are not adequate to cover the cost therefore proper accounting would be the IOU's are the funds indebtedness to the general fund.

MTJohn went on to say... and used payroll taxes to fund tax cuts.

Actually tax rates were cut and no longer collected then money was borrowed to fund multiple wars and to make up the short fall of medicare/medicaid and other non essential programs.

MTJohn added... And, buried in problems with Medicare/Medicaid are excess profits for those in the private sector who assist with the delivery of services - the most egregious example might be the benefits for big pharma that were crafted into Medicare Part B.

I agree medicare part D with pharmaceuticals profiting was not funded just as other liberalizations were not funded as implemented.

Congress has failed miserably to meet their obligations and the voters do not hold them accountable.

August 12, 2012 at 8:10 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Harp:

  1. We do agree that social programs ought to be both more efficient and more effective.
  2. I suggested that social services are a legitimate function of government. At least in theory, I'd agree that social services programs ought to be as local as possible. But, there also should be a measure of consistency in desired outcomes even if there is variability in delivery of service. We also have to be honest with ourselves in acknowledging that, too often, "states' rights" is code for racism.

  3. The IOU's are owed to the general fund only after the general fund's IOU's to the social security trust have been paid.

  4. Congress has been very accountable - not to the voters but to those who put up the money to help them dupe the voters.

August 12, 2012 at 8:28 a.m.
fairmon said...

EaTn said....

Bush and the right-wingers had taken us to the brink and Obama stopped the runaway bus.

What could either of them have done without the approval of congress and many times congress initiated the foolishness. The congressional controlling party has been a mixed bag in both administrations. The trip to the brink or past it has truly been and continues to be a bipartisan effort.

August 12, 2012 at 8:29 a.m.
conservative said...

This very Liberal loontoonist needs to do some thinking himself. The American people did some thinking after seeing the Demoncrats and Obamination practice their Socialism.

After thinking, they went to the polls in the mid term election and unelected 6 Demoncrats in the Senate, over 60 Demoncrats in the House, 6 Governors, and over 680 Demoncrats in state legislatures.

There is no indication that Americans have changed their thinking since.

August 12, 2012 at 8:30 a.m.
dougmusn said...

@harp3339:Some comments about 'welfare'. First, payments reflect societal values. We do not wish to put Gramma on an ice floe when she is infirm. One of the major drivers for Medicaid spending is not the dirt-poor family with too many children but nursing home care. If you watch the population trends, this will soon explode.

Second, health payments are not a zero sum game. If we make or keep poor people well, we increase the chance they can break out of poverty, do better and pay money back into the coffers. About 90 years ago, we had this pattern in much of the South:

poverty > no shoes > hookworm > anemia > no energy to work or study > limited employment > poverty

There is a similar story with infectious diseases including tuberculosis, polio, measles, etc. Without a public health system and continuing federal and state support for research and support, we would be back in the 19th century. [As an aside, my father who married in 1937, told me once he and mother chose to have four children "so two might live".]

In the words of Oliver Wendell Holmes, "I enjoy paying taxes--with them, I buy civilization."

August 12, 2012 at 8:53 a.m.

Hope. Audacity. Change you can believe in. This is thinking? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

No. This is snake oil – easily sold at pep rallies in stadiums filled with zombies looking for political messiahs.

August 12, 2012 at 9:04 a.m.

“In his 1983 book "The Whys of a Philosophical Scrivener," skeptic and science writer Martin Gardner cited the decline of traditional religious belief among the better educated as one of the causes for an increase in pseudoscience, cults and superstition. He referenced a 1980 study published in the magazine Skeptical Inquirer that showed irreligious college students to be by far the most likely to embrace paranormal beliefs, while born-again Christian college students were the least likely.

“Surprisingly, while increased church attendance and membership in a conservative denomination has a powerful negative effect on paranormal beliefs, higher education doesn't. Two years ago two professors published another study in Skeptical Inquirer showing that, while less than one-quarter of college freshmen surveyed expressed a general belief in such superstitions as ghosts, psychic healing, haunted houses, demonic possession, clairvoyance and witches, the figure jumped to 31% of college seniors and 34% of graduate students.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178219865054585.html

August 12, 2012 at 9:04 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Doug - Oliver Wendall Holmes was right. Paying taxes is the privilege of responsible citizenship.

As a footnote to your post, no, we don't put Granny on an ice floe. But, if there is a buck to be made by bilking her out of her life savings, it's just good business.

August 12, 2012 at 9:14 a.m.
MTJohn said...

harp3339 said..."The trip to the brink or past it has truly been and continues to be a bipartisan effort."

The trip to the brink has been a bipartisan effort. However, the pied piper who has mesmerized the electorate is a right-wing Republican.

August 12, 2012 at 9:20 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

My faith is in the chicago thug cabal. mwahahahaha

August 12, 2012 at 9:20 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

"USA NIPS CHINA, WRAPS UP OLYMPIC MEDALS RACE.." condolences to the blame America first crowd.

August 12, 2012 at 9:23 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Blame Title IX, Jack.

August 12, 2012 at 9:34 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Unfortunately for Jack_, our team was loaded with minorities and, at last count, zero Klansmen. Hey, Jack_Boot, did Ann Romney's horse medal?

August 12, 2012 at 9:37 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Beats me, dude. Never saw a Klansman in my life. Have you?

August 12, 2012 at 9:39 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Nevermind, Jack_, found it myself.

"LONDON – Riddle: When is a horse a goat? Answer: When it is Ann Romney’s chestnut warmblood, and it costs the Americans all their medal hopes in an equestrian event.

Hate to be a neigh-sayer about Rafalca, but the 15-year-old mare just didn’t get the job done on Tuesday in dressage – which is four-legged ballroom dancing, only with some guy sitting on your back in a top hat. Rafalca was awarded a decent score on her trot and went strong to her left, earning a score of 7.3 out of 10 on that pass. But she had problems with transitions and her extended walk. You know what they say: If you can’t walk the walk, you don’t belong in the dressage arena.

Rafalca finished 28th out of 32 horses in the event, with an average score of 69.302. To be fair, the Americans weren’t going to win the team competition anyway. Britain, the gold medalist, was far too strong. But Rafalca killed any chances of a podium position by 11 a.m. on Tuesday, so she gets the blame – along with rider Jan Ebeling, plus the would-be first lady."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/olympics-2012/ann-romney-horse-rafalca-t-walk-walk-olympic-dressage-kills-shot-a-usa-podium-spot-london-article-1.1130765#ixzz23L4wD2tY

August 12, 2012 at 9:40 a.m.
mymy said...

86 Days to Go:

The Obama Choom Gang will be working overtime with their fear tactics.

August 12, 2012 at 9:52 a.m.
joneses said...

The hate and intolerance from the liberal left never ceases to amaze me.

August 12, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.
patriot1 said...

Chip Forrester, the top democrat guru in Tennessee, says democrats vote in "alphabetical order" thus explaining how their US Senate nominee won in the primary. Is this an example of in depth thinking?

August 12, 2012 at 10 a.m.
degage said...

I saw a klansman, Sen byrd democrat.

August 12, 2012 at 10:04 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

DEFEND YOURSELVES

Republicans believe that rich people must get richer and poor people must get poorer.

Seriously, you tea bagging knuckle dragging evolution denying faith based hypocrites never dare explain your macro economic policies or where the biblical concept of 'I am my brothers' keeper' fits into any of it.

Case in point: Romney's economic plan will raise taxes on working class people and cut taxes on the rich while increasing the military budget. I have yet to hear anyone of you knuckleheads defend that or explain how and why trickle down economics will work THIS time.

Defend yourselves.

August 12, 2012 at 11:40 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

I totally agree with raygunz' and Easy's assessment of OllieH's post - it's right on the mark. You nailed it, Ollie.

J_D, you say that Easy is "immature, spoiled, and naive." Please go back to what he wrote in response to tu_q's post and tell me in what way he is being immature, spoiled, or naive. Seems to me he countered it perfectly, with logic and clarity.

Dougmusn, you make some excellent points in your post. Today's conservatives like to portray liberals as being namby-pamby, feel-good altruists who want the government to hand out money and food and health care to the poor out of some pie-in-the-sky belief in social justice or because we simply feel sorry for the indigent. But the bottom line is that it is actually practical and prudent for the government to provide the basic safety nets you mention so that our nation can maintain a base line of functionality. It only makes sense, not just from a social justice point of view but from an economic one, to assure that the citizenry be healthy, literate, and capable of keeping the wheels of our society turning.

August 12, 2012 at 12:15 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

A few of you lefties are just misguided. Then there are others, like blackwater, easy, dude, that are just punks.

August 12, 2012 at 12:17 p.m.
miraweb said...

I am enjoying the irony of the cartoon with the comments that follow a bit more than, perhaps, is healthy.

Well done, Clay!

August 12, 2012 at 12:30 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

BW48, I have been asking that of conservatives for years and I have never gotten a satisfactory answer. It seems they always blame some vague extenuating circumstances on why trickle-down has not worked. Or else they claim that it does indeed work but the poor or the average working person has become stupider or lazier and that is why it hasn't worked for them (they conveniently forget all about this near-depression level recession that we are still mired in). We have given Friedman's half-baked theory ample time and latitude to see if it works and it never has. Yet still, the conservatives keep clinging to it like it's the friggin' Holy Grail.

August 12, 2012 at 12:35 p.m.
miraweb said...

I came across a rather good piece checking the basic economic assumptions in Romney's proposals.

The economists Romney cited in his own report were contacted by a reporter. They responded that there are really only two things out there that will fix the economy:

1) debt forgiveness

2) a healthy housing market

One economist went so far to say that while he didn't generally support large government interventions, it might be the only way to get the banks to stop distressing the markets.

Article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/08/economists-to-romney-campaign-thats-not-what-our-research-says/

August 12, 2012 at 12:45 p.m.

What statute are they going to put up instead?

Perhaps one to Ayn Rand, or to the guy from the Monopoly board-game.

August 12, 2012 at 12:58 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Bulbs, I think either of those replacements would make the teabaggers happy. Or maybe they could come up with something along the lines of Mt. Rushmore: a 4-headed sculpting of Reagan, Rand, Friedman, and Grover Norquist. Or they could replace any one of the aforementioned with the monocled guy from Monopoly - he makes as much sense as any of them.

August 12, 2012 at 1:15 p.m.
fairmon said...

dougmusn said...

@harp3339:Some comments about 'welfare'. First, payments reflect societal values. We do not wish to put Gramma on an ice floe when she is infirm. One of the major drivers for Medicaid spending is not the dirt-poor family with too many children but nursing home care. If you watch the population trends, this will soon explode.

I am not suggesting medicare/medicaid should not be available but that the funding via taxes or premiums are not sufficient. Action to correct this is necessary or the impact on the deficit and debt continues unabated until they become unaffordable and unavailable.

August 12, 2012 at 2:15 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"I was comparing Libtards in general to their Republican counterparts and I have to say that by a factor of about 2 to 1 you Libtards believe some really silly azz horseshat."

If your were paying any attention, I explained how Republicans believe the same "silly azz horseshat". They just don't see it that way or admit to it. Might want to touch up on your reading comprehension for next time.

August 12, 2012 at 3:23 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

harp: If adding $1 trillion a year in debt and having unemployment at over 8% for 42 straight months is "saving us from the cliff", you need your head examined.

Obama himself said if he didn't reduce the deficit by half during his first term, then he didn't deserve a second term. Well, he didn't, in fact he doubled it and more. Why not hold him to his word?

August 12, 2012 at 3:34 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/west-says-ad-plays-on-racial-stereotypes-naacp-dis/nQPcM/

Where is the outcry of racism from the liberals? Again, liberal hypocrisy.

August 12, 2012 at 4 p.m.
jazzman said...

tu_quoque said...

'So what your saying is that the ladies didn’t earn/win those metals that the government did that for them. I’m sure they will thank you for your lack of confidence that they could have done this on their own talent, training, and effort.'

If you're interested in getting educated on the subject of Title IX, and it looks like you certainly need some education, give yourself a break from the nonsensical pablum. Here's a link to a Right-wing conservative newspaper that will explain it to you,

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/london-2012-summer-olympic-games/2012/aug/1/Title-IX-American-women-gold-2012-Olympics/

"Originally called the Education Amendments Act of 1972, it is better known as Title IX. This legislation barred gender discrimination in all aspects of education. "

"Before Title IX was law in 1972, there was no provision in education for funding women’s organized sports. And the first women’s full sports scholarship was not awarded until 1974, thanks to Title IX, going to Ann Meyers to play basketball at UCLA. From there the rest is history. The handful of scholarships in those early days has grown to 5,070 available today for women’s basketball, just at the division one level.

The increase in women’s college basketball scholarships is a direct result of Title IX having a dramatic impact at the Olympic level with the U.S. women’s teams winning gold medals at the last four Olympics."

"Title IX was the first comprehensive federal law to prohibit sex discrimination against students and employees in these institutions.'

August 12, 2012 at 4 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"Most remarkably, is it possible that the media did not notice that Obama created a new government department last week just for African American students? Are you kidding me? An Executive Order to benefit one race of students? Can you even imagine Mitt Romney announcing an Office of White Education? Or how about an Executive Order by Romney to create The Office of Mormon Education? Can you imagine the outcry from the liberal media"?

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/02/obama-what-mainstream-media-is-missing/#ixzz23Meidkm4

August 12, 2012 at 4:08 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

So in other words jazzman, they didn't do that, the government made that happen for them.

August 12, 2012 at 4:12 p.m.
jazzman said...

TOES02800 said...

re: 'Funny. Looks more like an occupy Wall street crowd to me.'

Sadly, the cartoon looks more like some of the 'defenders of religious freedom' from Murfreesboro.

August 12, 2012 at 4:17 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Why are you against religious freedom? What has it done to you?

August 12, 2012 at 4:19 p.m.
jazzman said...

TOES02800

You either didn't read the article, or you don't understand what the article says.,both are things that will prevent you from understanding Title IX and how it impacts current times.

August 12, 2012 at 4:23 p.m.
jazzman said...

TOES02800 said...

re: : Why are you against religious freedom?

You don't know about Murfreesboro's problem with religious freedom either? You should try to keep up on current events.

August 12, 2012 at 4:25 p.m.
Easy123 said...

sTUpid,

"So that leaves you having to defend the 2 to 1 advantage you Libtard idiots have in your beliefs of low grade B.S. concepts."

Republicans believe in the same concepts. They just don't see it that way. How many times do I have to say it? The only way your argument works is if you are contrasting non-religious Republicans and Democrats. You haven't done that. You and the survey results address Reps. and Dems. "in general". That includes Christians on both sides.

Again, are you lumping the beliefs of your Republican Christian brethren into those "low grade B.S. concepts"?

Would you like to try again, sweetie? :-)

August 12, 2012 at 4:46 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Country is going down the crapper financially and you mullets talk of Title IX. Better than talking about a failed presidency, I guess.

August 12, 2012 at 5:59 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Yeah,

The childlike mind that wants everything guaranteed as if it is some kind of self proclaimed right is the enlightened mind.

...And the mind that recognizes that such guarantees create a class of parasites that will inevitably bring society down are something less.

Bennett apparently never grew out of his teenage "I know everything and am smarter than my parents " stage.

August 12, 2012 at 8:19 p.m.
MTJohn said...

Jack_Dennis said..."Country is going down the crapper financially and you mullets talk of Title IX. Better than talking about a failed presidency, I guess."

Jack - may I remind you that you were the one who brought up the Olympics with your post at 9:23 for the purpose of challenging "blame America first". Although, to be honest, I'm not sure what the logical connection might be. I just pointed out that the women out-medaled the men. And, if it were not for Title IX, the women likely would not have been as successful.

August 12, 2012 at 8:57 p.m.
alprova said...

Toes02800 wrote: "Where is the outcry of racism from the liberals? Again, liberal hypocrisy."

Here's the ad that West is whining about. It was released late last year. Any discussion on the subject of racism pertaining to that ad is simply pathetic;

Him playing the race card to attack Liberals allegedly attacking him, combined with you calling Liberals "hypocrites" because nobody gasped at the site of an animated punch in a political ad, makes about as much sense as a monkey making love to a football.

Now, had there been any uproar by any group of Liberals to the image of Allen West punching a white woman, then there might be something to talk about.

To sit there and to whine about something being racial in nature when nobody has even broke wind over it, is ridiculous.

August 12, 2012 at 8:57 p.m.
dude_abides said...

tu_ says... "I have a vision of you changing the channel and searching for balance when one group has been on long enough."

I have no visions of you doing anything at all, but...

August 12, 2012 at 9:19 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al, would you be making the same comment if a Republican made this Ad with Obama?

August 12, 2012 at 9:43 p.m.
moonpie said...

I do have a question regarding Paul Ryan.

Romney has locked up the staunch conservatives by not being Obama or a Democrat.

Did he really need to move farther to the right to shore up his base?

Ryan risks scaring off a lot of people in the middle (though there seem to be fewer of them these days.)

August 12, 2012 at 9:49 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Jack_Dennis says... "A few of you lefties are just misguided. Then there are others, like blackwater, easy, dude, that are just punks."

I would like to take this opportunity to apologize for any out of line statements I might have made, and for any instances in which I have been less than respectful to you or the Ku Klux Klan. I don't mean to infer any connection between you and the Ku Klux Klan, and it's none of my business if your pillowcase has eyeholes.

August 12, 2012 at 9:53 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

So it's not racism unless a liberal "breaks wind" about it. You're off your rocker knucklehead. Imagine the outrage had the Tea party made such an ad. You and your liberal online lovers would have a field day yelling racism. Isn't it odd how liberals get irate when they get the race card played on them? It's very funny to watch.

August 12, 2012 at 10:35 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude: I imply, you infer.. You imply, I infer..got it, punk?

August 12, 2012 at 11:01 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Pendantics from the author of that train wreck of a sentence. Try deduce in lieu of infer, and see if that works for you. I think you're infer a rude awakening three days before Kristallnacht 2012, Jack_Boot, you flabby, pallid tool.

August 12, 2012 at 11:39 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

STICKS AND STONED

Jack made another well thought out contribution with this sugar plum: "A few of you lefties are just misguided. Then there are others, like blackwater, easy, dude, that are just punks."

Thanks for making my point. Sounds like you're smoking medical grade. I merely asked for any tea bagger to defend trickle down economics. Should be a snap for a fellow of your superior intellect.

Instead, you respond with junior high name calling. Wow.

Look, this is easy stuff. You believe one thing. I believe something else. Tell me why you are right and I am wrong.

Why not explain to this punk just exactly how trickle down economics will work this time? Do you really think paying for a $5 trillion tax cut for millionaires with tax increases on working people, switching medicare to a voucher program, eliminating food stamps, etc., is a sound fiscal policy? How will that policy get more money to middle class families?

American corporations are not short on cash. They are sitting on between one and three trillion dollars. Cutting their taxes won't make them hire more workers, but I am willing to accept the fact that I might be wrong. I am open to that possibility.

So make your case.

Oh wait.

You can't.

August 12, 2012 at 11:55 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Al, would you be making the same comment if a Republican made this Ad with Obama?"

That's Allen West's reverse race card whine, and the answer is a resounding yes, if the President were to be offering the same whine in regard to an animated video or picture.

No one has suggested that Allen West actually ever struck anyone physically. It was a metaphor used to drive a point home.

August 13, 2012 at 12:23 a.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "So it's not racism unless a liberal "breaks wind" about it."

No...it's not Liberal hypocrisy because no Liberals that either one of is aware of, has ever suggested that Allen West was a white woman beating conservative as a result of any depiction contained in that political advertisement.

"You're off your rocker knucklehead. Imagine the outrage had the Tea party made such an ad."

That right there is and of itself the problem with Allen West's whine and yours as well. Imagination is not reality. You are both imagining something that has not come to pass and nothing based in reality that either of you can compare it to.

But, the press absolutely printed Allen West's whine, because it exposes just how silly conservatives can get when they feel that they are being picked on. **"You and your liberal online lovers would have a field day

yelling racism. Isn't it odd how liberals get irate when they get the race card played on them? It's very funny to watch."**

The only thing this proves is that you folks have no idea whatsoever how to play the race card. Allen West, and now you, are both totally clueless as to what racism is, and how it is defined.

Nothing in that video suggests that Allen West holds any inherent belief that one race of people is physically or intellectually superior to another.

You Sir, need to brush up on the definition of hypocrisy and when it is in evidence, in order to have any point in calling anyone out for being guilty of it.

August 13, 2012 at 12:40 a.m.
fairmon said...

TOES02800 said... harp: If adding $1 trillion a year in debt and having unemployment at over 8% for 42 straight months is "saving us from the cliff", you need your head examined.

I don't know where you got the impression I thought it had. I think we may already be past the point of no return. I just don't think either party is offering effective solutions. Also, to save this country will take everyone feeling the pain for a long time. Like credit cards, it will take a lot longer to get them paid than it took to run up the debt while living the good life. We keep just paying the interest on full cards and opening up new accounts.

August 13, 2012 at 12:45 a.m.
degage said...

Al, you know very well the libs would be screaming bloody murder if anyone depicted Obama like they did West. They scream raceism if anyone says anything about him they don't like. Its called a double standard. I don't like Obamas agenda so Most libs think I'm a raceist.

August 13, 2012 at 6:27 a.m.
mymy said...

85 Days to Go: Which way is the question?

August 13, 2012 at 8:16 a.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "Al, you know very well the libs would be screaming bloody murder if anyone depicted Obama like they did West."

It was a political ad. It was an animated punch of two boxing gloves performed on pictures of two women.

Did you look at the ad? There were three key words used in it, one of which he uses to describe himself in political terms.

Allen West fancies himself a "Fighter," hence the boxing reference that was used as a theme for the ad.

Allen West has indeed voted to end Medicare as we now know it, "socking it to seniors."

Allen West has "wacked" women, by voting to end women's health care funding.

The ad goes on to depict the image of a "middle class" black family, used in part, I'm guessing, to dodge any charge of racism, which would have come up had everyone depicted been Caucasian.

It's a very clever ad. It's negative in nature, but at the same time a light-hearted, cartoonish if you will, poke at the man as well. It seizes on a word that he has repeatedly used to describe himself and turns it around on him, using a completely benign metaphorical depiction of him as a boxer, taking punches at different people, based on how he has voted for or against certain issues.

The mere fact that two of the pictures contained in the ad are of white women, doesn't begin to support any complaint of racism. It's the silliest of complaints that has come down the pike in a long time.

"they scream raceism if anyone says anything about him they don't like. Its called a double standard. I don't like Obamas agenda so Most libs think I'm a raceist."

I have a signed picture of the President hanging on the wall of my place of business.

I deal with many members of the public, many times a day in my line of work, and not one day goes by where at least one person who enters my business looks at that picture and offers a comment along the lines of, "What's a picture of that 'n----r' doing in here?"

To this day, that question has never been answered. I, my wife, and my staff respond with blank stares, unless these people pipe up with anything else, and then they are politely asked to leave and to not come back, if they have any problem with that picture on the wall.

So, while you may not be a racist, the fact is that there are many people out there who clearly have a problem with the man due to his skin color. If you engage these people in conversation, as I sometimes do, the gist of what they have to offer is race based complaints, such as the raising of issues like "welfare," "food stamps," "free this or free that," etc.

So...you're going to have to go a long way to begin to convince me that bigotry is not alive and doing rather well in the South.

August 13, 2012 at 9:25 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_ and blackwater seem a bit sensitive. I'm guilt ridden.

August 13, 2012 at 9:49 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Al, sounds to me like you cater to the wrong type of customers.

August 13, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.
timbo said...

You stupid arrogant liberals.... You remind me of children that were brought up watching Nickelodeon. You know, the place where the kids are always smart and the the adults are stupid.

We conservatives just look at your immature, illogical rantings and usually laugh. The problem is that although you act like children you are old enough to vote, i.e. we got Mr. Hope and Change.

Now you and the rest of the liberal idiots get shoulder pain from patting yourselves on the back about how "smart" you all are.

This compulsory need to keep telling everyone how smart you are belies that you have real problems with self esteem.

This kind of delusion is one of the first signs of mental illness.

August 13, 2012 at 10:05 a.m.
dude_abides said...

"We conservatives just look at your immature, illogical rantings and usually laugh." -timbo

LOL

How do you know that, timbo? Do you call each other and report your reactions? What a joke. I think you just slimed yourself.

August 13, 2012 at 10:23 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Please don't feel guilt ridden, Jack_. You people don't react well to emotional turmoil. I'm afraid you'll do something drastic and violent. Just relax and enjoy your morning beer.

August 13, 2012 at 10:39 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_, you dear, poor, boy. I fear for our country if you and your ilk are a majority. I really do.

August 13, 2012 at 10:54 a.m.
Easy123 said...

dude_,

You should feel proud that Jack_Troll would give you his infamous "I fear for our country if you and your ilk are a majority." line. It is the greatest compliment. I've gotten the same line several times.

August 13, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Fear not, Papa Serf. We'll save you from Ryan's vicious elder abuse. But, if the polls go their way, you might want to stock up on cat food.

August 13, 2012 at 11:11 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

The mega-rich financier of the “worldwide people’s revolution” is marrying someone 40 years his junior.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/george-soros-announces-engagement-to-girlfriend-40-years-his-junior/

Everything connected to the left is somehow slimy, unsavory, or downright disgusting. How do you people live with yourselves?

August 13, 2012 at 11:43 a.m.
Easy123 said...

BRP,

I fixed it for you.

Everything connected to the Right is somehow slimy, unsavory, or downright disgusting. How do you people live with yourselves?

House GOP Blocking Abortion Access for Raped Soldiers

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/06/shaheen-amendment-military-rape-abortion

August 13, 2012 at 12:03 p.m.
dude_abides said...

BRP says... "Everything connected to the left is somehow slimy, unsavory, or downright disgusting. How do you people live with yourselves?"

I'll thank you to keep your eyes off of my hot tub deck, sir!

August 13, 2012 at 12:13 p.m.
mymy said...

The old ” frighten the elderly tactic” works only on the uninformed. Like the lefties here! O and company have no plan except to continue to destroy this country.

Re Medicare, O has taken 716 BILLION from it to pay for OBAMACARE. Obamacare is what will really hurt seniors. He is destroying Medicare. Paul Ryan’s idea is for trying to save it for those under 55. Anybody 55 and older will have no changes.

What CBS cut from the R/R 60 min. interview and doesn’t want you to know:

“Ryan added, "My mom is a Medicare senior in Florida. Our point is we need to preserve their benefits, because government made promises to them that they've organized their retirements around. In order to make sure we can do that, you must reform it for those of us who are younger. And we think these reforms are good reforms. That have bipartisan origins. They started from the Clinton commission in the late '90s."”

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57491634/romney-ryan-together-on-60-minutes-tonight/

August 13, 2012 at 12:15 p.m.
Easy123 said...

mymy,

"O has taken 716 BILLION from it to pay for OBAMACARE."

False.

http://www.politifact.com/oregon/statements/2011/nov/14/rob-cornilles/another-look-favorite-republican-talking-point/

"Paul Ryan’s idea is for trying to save it for those under 55"

Would you care to elaborate? Or just use more vague hyperbole?

What guarantee will these soon-to-be retirees have that they can receive the same benefits as their predecessors? What about the people caught in the middle (65-66) when they raise the Medicare age to 67? What about the hospitals and insurance companies?

But wait, isn't a "government-run" exchange system what you guys were against in the Obamacare debate?

August 13, 2012 at 12:34 p.m.

Ryan's plan implements the same cuts as Obama's.

Yet Ryan would have us get upset about Obama, but ignore how he's doing the same thing?

August 13, 2012 at 12:43 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

happywithnewbulbs said... Ryan's plan implements the same cuts as Obama's.

Another example of the slime. Ryan's plan is no longer the plan. Please stop trying to use confusion to derail constructive dialogue.

August 13, 2012 at 1 p.m.
mymy said...

Easy and Hopey Bulbs etc. are just who I was talking about: uninformed/brain washed.

Anybody at any age before retirement better be living below their means and saving every penny they can. The younger one starts the better.

I'm a senior and concerned about what Obama is doing to this country, but as a parent I have made sure years ago my child thinks about retirement without SS and Medicare. If it is saved in some form, that will be great, but don't count on it. Especially with the Libs/Progressives in charge! All they want is your vote and control of your dumb butt.

August 13, 2012 at 1:33 p.m.
Easy123 said...

mymy,

"Easy and Hopey Bulbs etc. are just who I was talking about: uninformed/brain washed."

And this is you saying nothing. You haven't supported your case or answered any questions that I presented.

It's all vague rhetoric with you.

Bulbs and I can support and defend what we say. Why can't you?

August 13, 2012 at 1:41 p.m.
conservative said...

Could you possibly have a rational conversation with someone who wrote this :

easy said....

"We have utterly destroyed the planet.", "It's not just my position. It's reality"

August 13, 2012 at 1:45 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_ : Easy says dude_,

You should feel proud that Jack_Troll would give you his infamous "I fear for our country if you and your ilk are a majority." line. It is the greatest compliment. I've gotten the same line several times.

He's right. You should be honored.

August 13, 2012 at 1:48 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Conservative,

Still trying? Are you really that much of a coward? Why can't you refute what I say? Why can't you support your own position?

Are you a coward or just inept?

August 13, 2012 at 1:54 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy, dude & blackwater....ever the name callers.

August 13, 2012 at 2:02 p.m.
Easy123 said...

JackTroll,

Ever the whiner and non-contributor.

August 13, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.
degage said...

Easy, politifact is a lib link, you seem to always go to liberal links. We on the other hand go to conservative links, It's more believeable. Guess you can call it a wash.

Al,You really want us to believe you have so many people using the n word about Obama. If so do you still have any coustomers?

August 13, 2012 at 2:09 p.m.
conservative said...

Two vastly different welcomes for two vastly different home boys :

“At Obama fundraiser in Chicago. Admission only $51, but room is half full,” New York Times reporter Jodi Kantor wrote on Twitter.

More than 10,000 people turned out to welcome Paul Ryan back to Wisconsin and neither Romney nor Ryan wore a tie.

August 13, 2012 at 2:24 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Conservative,

Why not add the rest of the article?

"But the crowd for the afternoon fundraiser at the Bridgeport Art Center totaled 1,000, an Obama campaign official said – more than the 850-person estimate the campaign offered earlier in the weekend. Tickets for the Gen44 fundraiser, targeted at younger supporters, started at $51, but many were more expensive."

More misinformation and propaganda from you. You and your ilk are pros at taking things out of context.

August 13, 2012 at 2:29 p.m.
lawstudent43 said...

Whenever I log in to the Chattanooga Times Free Press ( to see the classified ads), I see a cartoon that insults Republicans. Is this paper trying to say they are liberal democrates who have no intention of conducting themselves like adults but only want to offend and insult those with different beliefs? I thought this was a "news" paper? I see it's just one more outlet for the juvenile.

August 13, 2012 at 3:56 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Whenever I log in to the Chattanooga Times Free Press ( to see the classified ads), I see a cartoon that insults Republicans. Is this paper trying to say they are liberal democrates who have no intention of conducting themselves like adults but only want to offend and insult those with different beliefs? I thought this was a "news" paper? I see it's just one more outlet for the juvenile.

Lawstudent, you will find the TFP is actually a well-balanced newspaper if you purchase the print version. However, an on-line paper cannot contain the same content. Bennett is the only staff cartoonist (the paper prints other cartoons, including conservative ones) and he is a liberal. You notice that comics are not included-my guess is that they cost something to link to a paper website. The print version has Mallard Fillmore and Doonsbury. Before you conclude that the paper is no good, try the print. We subscribed for years and found it very well balanced. They print columns from Cal Thomas and Walter Williams to Krugman, Leonard Pitts and others.

August 13, 2012 at 4:17 p.m.
dude_abides said...

tu_loose Lautrec says:"...the thought of you always..."

Who's living in whose head now, tu_quackho?

Those approaching retirement age should stock up on cat food to eat before the wealthy notice and drive the prices up to give huge bonuses to the CEOs. Ryan would legalize cannibalism so the poor could eat each other.

August 13, 2012 at 4:59 p.m.
JamesFarrell99 said...

Must say that I'm a huge fan of the political back and forths here in the comments section. Keep it up - New Egypt

August 13, 2012 at 5:04 p.m.
miraweb said...

Be gentle. Law students are required to check in their senses of humor during the first year. They don't get them back until the student loans are paid off.

August 13, 2012 at 5:05 p.m.
patriot1 said...

The status quo is not sustainable so says any responsible politician (from both parties) on the entitlemnt subject. The sad part is that if nothing is done to address the issue, the very ones who need it the most will be the hardest hit.

August 13, 2012 at 5:26 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Welcome, JF99!

August 13, 2012 at 5:46 p.m.
ibshame said...

Not sure which is Romney's biggest albatross right now. LOL Andrea Saul trying to explain how the man who lost his wife(in an ad that has not been run in any state by the Obama campaign but thanks to the dumb cluck Repubs they have run it for them. HAHAH) could have prolonged his wife's life if he lived in Mass. thanks to Romney Care then watching that crow-face Ann Coulter explode on Sean Hannity or watching Romney show that slick grin of his as he throws Paul Ryan to the wolves in attempt to take the heat off his Tax returns. LOL Evidently Romney is willing to throw Ryan out there in the hopes the media will forget about his tax returns. It might work for about a week but sooner rather than later more damning info is going to come out about Romney and his tax returns. Maybe the so-called "Chicago Machine" will save that as a warm-up for the Oct. surprise. LMAO.

August 13, 2012 at 5:55 p.m.
ibshame said...

When Grannies get a look at what Ryan is proposing they will be more than happy to send those contributions to President Obama.

August 13, 2012 at 6:12 p.m.
tderng said...

thanks tu_quoque,now you owe me a new keyboard since I sprayed mine with my drink because of your 5:34pm post.

August 13, 2012 at 6:37 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Shame: It's Obama who raided medicare for $700 billion. Who's pushing granny off the cliff? You'd have to lie to say this isn't so, so be careful.

August 13, 2012 at 7:01 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Alpo:

"The only thing this proves is that you folks have no idea whatsoever how to play the race card".

Direct quote from alpo. He's implying that only liberals really know how to play the race card properly. As well liberals should!! You're old pros at it!!

August 13, 2012 at 7:10 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

By the way, it was a little chilly the last few nights. This global warming is just killing us all.

August 13, 2012 at 7:14 p.m.
dude_abides said...

tu_loose 4 love has friends that surveil the restrooms at Walmart? Who'd have known?

August 13, 2012 at 7:33 p.m.
conservative said...

Yesterday the Socialist president Owebama who has made "spread the wealth" and "spread the corn" statements added that his vision for America is one where “prosperity is shared.”

Did you ever notice that Liberals/Socialists/Demoncrats focus on taking wealth instead of creating wealth?

August 13, 2012 at 7:36 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Mmmmmm... not quite convinced here, tu_. From what I've heard via my non-friends that report bathroom news to me (!), you could fit that description as well. I believe you're just jealous 'cause you've not been invited to our Chattanoogaville Hot Tub Deck No-limp-ics.

August 13, 2012 at 8:16 p.m.

BigRidgePatriot, oh so you now have a new plan? What is it?

It's probably the same thing, but with a different label. You're funny, complaining about confusion when you are responsible for it. You might as well tell us that we're having constructive dialogue while the right-wing tries its false scare tactics trying to claim that Obama is doing something you already said you'd do.

What does that remind me of? Oh yeah, the healthcare reform plan.

At least you're consistent in your inconsistency. Anything to justify an attack on Obama, regardless of your own actual principles.

What kind of slime do you use to allow you to twist yourself in so many knots over your own views?

Don't worry though, Paul Ryan REALLY does want Mitt Romney to pay more in taxes. That's why he'll eliminate the tax shelters he hasn't yet named. But we should trust him that they do exist!

Somewhere.

lawstudent43, I hate to have to tell you this, but if you're looking for an editorial cartoon to be unbiased, you're looking in the wrong place. It's meant to be what it is, if you want non-partisan content, you will want to restrict yourself to the news sections.

Or instead of bemoaning about it, offer to pay for a cartoonist to represent your own views. I'm sure they'll take your money.

But do keep up the protest about offending and insulting others, that REALLY looks like you're showing some integrity in comparison to the material from the alleged right-wing stalwarts here.

Oh wait, no, it looks like you're making the same feigned protests they are.

August 13, 2012 at 9:24 p.m.
alprova said...

Shame: "It's Obama who raided medicare for $700 billion."

The claim that Obamacare cuts $700 billion from Medicare is absolutely true. Is that the all there is to it and the end of the story? Not on your life.

The Obamacare 'cuts' increases health care for Seniors and at the same time cuts fraud, waste and abuse. The Congressional Budget Office determined that the Medicare provisions in President Obama's health care law would save $700 billion over a decade and extends the life of Medicare for eight years.

The GOP talking point that has emerged over the last 48 hours:

"Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have laid out commonsense reforms that will make good on our promises to today’s seniors and save Social Security and Medicare for future generations."

The TRUTH?: The Romney-Ryan plan to reform Medicare absolutely and positively strips $700 billion away from seniors but does NOT use it to fund health services for ANYBODY. The Republicans in the House voted to cut $700 Billion from Medicare ENTIRELY.

The Congressional Budget Office estimates that if the Romney-Ryan plan is implemented, new Medicare beneficiaries will pay more than $1,200 out of pocket by 2030 and more than $5,900 more by 2050 and it will shift additional costs to seniors by raising the eligibility age to 67. This plan will absolutely and negatively impact middle-aged, middle class hard working Americans.

Romney-Ryan are holding up their version of a plan as a viable means by which to 'save Medicare' for Seniors, while at the same time calling for giving the wealthiest 1% in the U.S. huge tax breaks.

I dare anyone to refute one statement contained in this post for being untrue or infactual.

August 13, 2012 at 10:56 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "Alpo: "The only thing this proves is that you folks have no idea whatsoever how to play the race card"."

"Direct quote from alpo. He's implying that only liberals really know how to play the race card properly. As well liberals should!! You're old pros at it!!"

I implied no such thing. The simple fact that there are instances when playing the race card, as it is has been coined by conservatives, is legitimate and warranted. Bigotry does indeed still exist in this country.

That advertisement was not even close to an example of such.

The old saying goes, that anything worth doing, is worth doing right.

In this case, anything worth doing, should be grounded just a wee bit in reality.

Allen West's attempt at playing the race card is just about the most feeble and laughable attempt...ever.

And your attempt to call 'liberals' hypocrites for not jumping on his band wagon is equally feeble and laughable as well.

August 13, 2012 at 11:13 p.m.

I refute your claim that that GOP talking point has emerged in the last 48 hours.

It's been around for months, if not years.

August 13, 2012 at 11:28 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Bulbous. As for cartoonists, you should know, eh Bulb?

August 13, 2012 at 11:29 p.m.
fairmon said...

DEKALB COUNTY POLICE SHOOT MAN WITH A KNIFE.

That was a TFP column header yesterday. It is just as funny and misleading as a lot of the political ads we are currently seeing. How many people do you think saw the header and read the article wondering what kind of knife the man was shot with?

August 13, 2012 at 11:47 p.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "Al, You really want us to believe you have so many people using the n word about Obama. If so do you still have any coustomers?"

Look, I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to lie about it. I'd give anything if it were not true. I'm ashamed to be a person from the South, living among people so bigoted that they still use that word in reference to any African-American, much less the President of the United States.

Do I still have customers? You bet. I see several new and old faces every day we are open for business. I never lack any company, for we have tables, chairs, a television usually tuned in to one of the cable news channels, and we always have lots of free coffee and treats available. We have several friends and family members who come in regularly just to hang around for an hour, two, or six if they wish.

I have several friends with whom we agree and disagree on points of politics, and if they are bigoted, they do a great job of keeping such sentiments to themselves. My intolerance with bigotry is well known by the people who know me well. We have many lively political discussions some days in my offices, and when political discussions ensue, I have two die-hard rules; The minute that anyone starts to express a hint of anger, the discussion comes to a screeching halt for the day. Second, the instant that someone offers so much as one racial epithet, they are gone forever. I discourage profanity as well during discussions, but I am not militant, except for certain words.

How many people have been ordered not to return to my place of business? 23 people since December 1, 2011 when the doors were opened. We have a chalk board on the wall with hash marks on it to keep up with the count.

August 14, 2012 at 12:09 a.m.
alprova said...

HWNB wrote: "I refute your claim that that GOP talking point has emerged in the last 48 hours."

"It's been around for months, if not years."

For Paul Ryan, that is true, but within the last 48 hours, the plan has suddenly become the plan being touted by both men, even though Romney, who is fast approaching the setting of a record of flip-flops worthy of an entry in the latest edition of Guinness, has expressed philosophical differences in the past to the plan.

August 14, 2012 at 12:20 a.m.
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