published Thursday, August 23rd, 2012

Blind Justice

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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WHS1970 said...

Good one Clay. I suppose the wing nut clan will be defending him.

August 23, 2012 at 12:11 a.m.
alprova said...

If anyone needs the background on this cartoon, you can read it all here;

August 23, 2012 at 12:16 a.m.
fairmon said...

Another example of voters being fooled or failing to really know the person being elected. Money, name recognition and the media determines who will be in an elected position. Voters would likely elect this guy again due to name recognition unless TV news used the TFP investigative information to educate voters.

August 23, 2012 at 5:12 a.m.
fairmon said...

By all means keep voters talking about abortion or no abortions and other laws they like or don't like that are not likely to change regardless of who is elected instead of more critical issues such as that in the Financial Times article today:

[Chinese acquisitions of US assets and businesses are running at record levels this year, bucking the trend of a generally tough mergers and acquisitions market and a sign that it is easier than many think for Chinese companies to attain approval for deals in America.]

Profits from foreign owned businesses in the U.S. are returned to the owner country or used to expand ownership of U.S. assets.

[Almost $8bn of deals have been announced so far this year, led by Dalian Wanda’s $2.6bn takeover of AMC Entertainment, the US cinema chain, and Sinopec’s $2.4bn acquisition of big stakes in a number of oil and gas developments from Devon Energy.]

As Alprova pointed out U.S. manufacturing jobs are being moved to foreign operations for various reasons leaving the U.S. as a services based economy which is difficult to grow. In addition more of the wealth creating U.S jobs are owned by foreign governments and businesses. How many people realize that Budweiser is no longer a U.S. company? Yes, they still operate in St. Louis and have commercials on American TV but they are no longer a U.S. company.

August 23, 2012 at 5:54 a.m.
joneses said...

Another perfect example of Hussein Obama's love for Wall Street. Hussein Obama and Joe Biden are lying to their supporters.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A veteran Wall Street executive who performed an independent review that exonerated the Obama administration's program of loans to energy companies contributed $52,500 to re-elect President Barack Obama in the months since completing his work, according to an Associated Press review of campaign records. The executive defended the integrity of his conclusions and said he decided to donate to Obama after his work was finished.

The campaign contributions to Obama started just weeks after Herbert M. Allison Jr., in congressional testimony in March, minimized concerns that the Energy Department was at high risk in more than $23 billion in federal loans awarded to green energy firms. Two weeks later, Allison began giving to the Obama campaign. His contributions to Obama and the Democratic National Committee totaled $52,500 by last month. Allison previously was the former head of the government's mass purchase of toxic Wall Street assets.

August 23, 2012 at 6:56 a.m.
patriot1 said...

This is an easy one: 1. Bebb is a democrat 2. Bebb's name starts with a "B" 3. Democrats vote by alphabetical order.

August 23, 2012 at 7:09 a.m.
KnottaHero said...

What?! A Bennett cartoon I agree with?! Republicans in this area decide elections. Why do you think that Mayfield (a life-long dem) ran as a republican? Bebb is just another dishonest politician, who, unfortunately, was in a better position to subvert justice and to trample on the rights of others. He is just another corrupt cog in the corrupt government of Cleveland & Bradley County. I pray that he is made to answer for his crimes! Keep up the good work, TFP!

August 23, 2012 at 8:19 a.m.
ldurham said...

So, the TFP does a week-long expose' revealing the dirty deeds of a prominent elected official, and the reaction is (crickets chirping). Ah, for the good old days when newspapers had clout.

August 23, 2012 at 8:22 a.m.
mymy said...

75 Days to Go!

Jobless Claims up (372,000). Last week revised up.

August 23, 2012 at 8:30 a.m.
mymy said...

Get ready, Obama administration. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

"The Hope and the Change" is, according to the Daily Beast, "sophisticated and potentially potent effort ... Instead of featuring strident partisan voices such as Morris or Ann Coulter, the cast of 40 is composed entirely of registered Democrats and independents who voted for Obama in 2008. This reflects a political premise shared by Bossie and Stephen K. Bannon, the film’s director—that the 2012 election will be decided by that group of voters in key states whose enthusiasm for Obama has descended toward disillusion."

In this, both Bannon and Bossie are eminently correct. Obama's greatest failure has been with those on his own side, who truly believed in their Hope and Change President. He's fallen short. And Bannon and Bossie are tapping into the angst of former Obama supporters to make that case. They worked with liberal pollster Pat Caddell to design focus groups that would evaluate the ineffectiveness of the president.

The results are nothing less than stunning. And audacious. The opening of the film shows Barack Obama descending from the clouds via plane to the DNC in Denver, to a breathlessly waiting audience. The rest of the film shows how that breathlessness transformed into asphyxia.

As Caddell says, "Politically, this speaks to what really is the Obama crisis ... I understand why Chicago never goes back to reminding people what they felt in 2008."

Advertisement for the film is already in process. It will serve as both promotion for the movie and as a reminder to the public of what they had when Obama ran in 2008 -- and what Obama has transformed his goodwill into.

The rollout for the film begins Friday, on Hannity (Fox News). Get ready. The Obama administration sure isn't.

August 23, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Off topic, but the smartest man in the world can't spell Ohio right. Again, where is the proof of Obama's intellectual superiority? Bush was and still is much smarter than Obama the stupid.

August 23, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.
Leaf said...

Is this guy still walking around free? The gears of justice grind slowly.

August 23, 2012 at 9:39 a.m.
Leaf said...

Huh? I just read that Toes claims that Bush is smarter than Obama. I almost squirted coffee through my nose.

August 23, 2012 at 9:40 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Where's the proof that Obama's so damn smart?Shoving liberal/socialist policies down people's throats doesn't make him smart. Show us the proof greenie!

August 23, 2012 at 10:04 a.m.
moonpie said...


I think the story you reported got it wrong. I think the president was being the H, so the whole group spelled Ohio backwards. That's easy to do if you are facing a crowd because you're spelling from your left to your right, just as you write it on a page.

This happens a lot.

And I don't think you personally needed to see this to have little to no respect for the president. There is nothing the man can do to win the respect or praise from those who oppose him. That has been the conservative strategy since he took office. Time will tell if that was wise.

If half of the stuff Bebb is accused of is real.......... wow. Good job Free Press on Reporting this. Thanks for the link, al.

August 23, 2012 at 10:09 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

His goofy wife isn't so bright either. Election day is the 6th. What brilliance! Neither one of them knows their ass from a hole in the ground.

August 23, 2012 at 10:09 a.m.
moonpie said...
August 23, 2012 at 10:11 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

With no "tough-love" from the press, I fear The Anointed One wins re-election.

August 23, 2012 at 10:13 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

That's right! I have absolutely NO respect for Obama. Just as he has absolutely NO respect for you, me, the constitution, unborn children, Asian dogs, the rule of law, wealthy black republicans, republican women, our nations future generations, all non-union workers......should I name more people and things he has no respect for?

August 23, 2012 at 10:23 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Obama...The corruptocrat- in- chief. What a piece of work this Obama is.

August 23, 2012 at 10:28 a.m.
jesse said...

The only thing i see in the toon that remotely reminds me of Obama is the DOG!

Took exactly 3 posts for it to get BACK to being about Obama and Romney!!

August 23, 2012 at 11:16 a.m.

Oh no, a locally relevant cartoon, which the noise brigade here just can't discuss, but has to distract us with their incessant chirping.

But people who think this is an isolated experience are sadly mistaken. It's across parties, and across the country.

At least none of our judges think they need to form a militia in the event of a Civil War, and I think we're a bit better off than the folks in Maricopa County.

August 23, 2012 at 11:18 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Folks, please give Bulb's (Clay) toon some attention.

August 23, 2012 at 11:21 a.m.
chatt_man said...

TOES - Don't be too hard on Obama for misspelling Ohio. After all, most of us only have to remember how to spell 50 states, he has to remember how to spell all 57 of his states.


August 23, 2012 at 12:15 p.m.
NGAdad said...

What chatt-man? doesn't realize is that the President has the job of governing the States, territories, and even the 7 seas. He may just have had a long night taking those 3 a.m. phone calls about foreign emergencies (ironically from H.Clinton).

Check your shorts for the necessary items to call oneself a man. Barrack Obama definitely has those in size large, even if he misspeaks one day.

August 23, 2012 at 12:46 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

NGAdad: Really?

August 23, 2012 at 1:11 p.m.
NGAdad said...

Yes, really Skipper. You do know that between the Skipper and Thurston Howell they couldn't even pull off a three hour tour. Right? Good luck, you and Mitt Romney trying to direct a Nation.

August 23, 2012 at 1:49 p.m.
chatt_man said...

NGAdad - they couldn't do any worse than Gilligan has...

August 23, 2012 at 1:53 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

No Dad, wish the good luck to the nation that's rudderless thanks to the Chicago thugs and their Chosen One. Wise up, pal.

August 23, 2012 at 1:54 p.m.
chatt_man said...

Well, since this thread has died because they've run the subject to death, to avoid any real issues that have to do with the upcoming election, let's celebrate our colleges educating the world!

August 23, 2012 at 2:44 p.m.
Leaf said...

OK, the extended metaphor comparing Gilligans Island to presidential politics has been overextended - like a tour that starts in California and ends up a thousand miles away in the South Pacific.

But seriously, we do have a lot of problems with government locally. There is a ton of corruption around here. It's sickening. Have we just come to expect it so much that it hardly invites comment anymore? What should the next topic of investigative journalism be? Does anyone know of any shennanigans in local government they would care to share?

August 23, 2012 at 2:50 p.m.
mymy said...

The 30 yr. old and under that voted for Obama. What will they do this time around?

After four years of college, many graduates are ending up in jobs that only require the ability to operate a cash register with a smile.

August 23, 2012 at 3:05 p.m.
dao1980 said...

mymy, I'm not attempting to refute, but just offer some perspective on your assessment of an age group in general.

I'm 32 and have an awesome job in sales.. in manufacturing. I also sill enjoy furthering my education by continuing to attend college in the evenings. I own a house, and am married (no kids yet).

From my individual perspective, things (economy wise) are doing quite well, considering general causality and studying a little U.S. history.

I didn't, and haven't ever voted for the jerk-in-chief.. whoever he's been each time. (see George Carlin on voting for a slightly profane explanation of this popular mindset)

I was raised to be a veracious right wing conservative with unwavering religious values (snicker),... but I made my own decisions, and now don't consider myself a lefty or a righty, and wouldn't be caught dead cheering blindly for either side.

I may vote this time though, for a lesser of two evils.

Maybe I'm mellowing out in my old age.. (haha) or maybe the physiological cataracts I have developed by staring at the rotten decay of politics has numbed me into caring, or feeling like I can make a difference... crazy talk, I know.

August 23, 2012 at 3:42 p.m.
dao1980 said...

psychological... that should be psychological cataracts. (stupid spell check)

August 23, 2012 at 4:04 p.m.
Walden said...

NGAdad uttered: "Check your shorts for the necessary items to call oneself a man. Barrack Obama definitely has those in size large,..."

Jack_Dennis - I'll let you pummel him for this one!

August 23, 2012 at 4:14 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Walden, I'm not gonna ask him the obvious question....

August 23, 2012 at 4:19 p.m.
mtngrl said...

Jack_Dennis said...

"Folks, please give Bulb's (Clay) toon some attention."

And then he........ doesn't.

August 23, 2012 at 4:59 p.m.
potcat said...

I could have told all of you including that they are as corrupt as the day is long. Justice for who?? Power hungry men and women. You could turn out the whole jail and lock up the cops,DAs, Judges and the gaurds that are gaurding the jails inmates and you would have the same thing!!

Murder is on the Chattanooga police force hands more than once. Remenber the black guy they wrongly pulled over and killed,ruled death by natural causes,"yeah Right" was put in a choke hold with ten cops on top of him, Momma sued and won, but dead is dead!! The security at Erlanger that tasered the man to death. A sick man and the medical examiner ruled natural causes! "Yeah Right" The Taser happy Security gaurd who done the deed was let go from the Chatt. police force for a lot of reasons but the Police Dept. gave him a Resume to get a job at a hospital after being fired for assult and other criminal things, i'm guessing they did'nt mention why he was fired on his Resume.

Money buys Justice, just sak Goldman Saks not a one has seen the inside of a jail cell.Its a myth that there's Justice and the scales are equal, NOT even close to being TRUE!! Incarceration is BIG business and we lock up the poor and insane, woo hoo, America is sick and needs new honest young blood that have oversight and i don;t mean good ole boys investagating friends. It not going to happen soooooooooooooo

Lady Justice is a bunch of BS!!

August 23, 2012 at 6:06 p.m.
rick1 said...

Since NGDad wants to talk about Obama's shorts lets not forget when Obama wore his mommys jeans to throw out the first pitch during the 2009 All Star Game

August 23, 2012 at 6:43 p.m.

mtngrl, and this is surprising to anybody?

potcat, you've got that right. There's a lot of profit to be had from prisons. And we're not the only ones with problems, there's place in Mississippi that was doing it off school-age children.

But there's at least some decent folks involved.

August 23, 2012 at 6:48 p.m.
dude_abides said...

TOES02800 said... "His goofy wife isn't so bright either. Neither one of them knows their ass from a hole in the ground."

Yet, they're in the White House, and you're gluing rear view mirrors on windshields! How did that happen? Think about that tonight when the whistle blows and you're scurrying back to your squirrel cage, you intellectual titan.

August 23, 2012 at 6:55 p.m.
potcat said...

I agree they are some good ones in the system, but not enough!!

August 23, 2012 at 6:56 p.m.

Potcat, there's never enough. We won't run out of demand for the virtuous any time soon.

OTOH, we won't run out of opportunity for con artists professing to it as well.

Dude_abides, surely there's validity in that.

August 23, 2012 at 8:07 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Hey dupe_abides! They only got to the white house by means of the liberal media and the likes of Bill Ayers. Brains had nothing to do with it. Obama was prodded along like a good stupid liberal to be the poster child for the socialist movement. Obama still isn't very smart, there's no proof of it anywhere.

August 23, 2012 at 8:38 p.m.

Yep, he just somehow managed to be supported by a conspiracy that covered for him while at Harvard!

I'm told they also arranged for a birth announcement to be published in Honolulu even though he was born in a secret Kenyan laboratory on the Moon.

August 23, 2012 at 9:12 p.m.
dude_abides said...


Your President is so smart that the geniuses are thinking of renaming their society Obensa. He's so smart the dolphins at Sea World wink knowingly at him. He's so smart the brightest light bulbs get a little Obama above their heads. He's so smart that to him, a smart phone is merely a phone.

August 23, 2012 at 9:27 p.m.
alprova said...

Your candidate is so dense, that he thinks that by refusing to cough up his tax returns, that the media and others will simply give up asking about them.

ABC News has posted an article, digesting some evidence that has been uncovered by the Gawker, making a good case as to what the man is hiding, and it does not look good for him. They have discovered the startegy used to stuff between $20 and $110 million in a tax-free IRA account.

Mitt Romney also released a new reason as to why he is refusing to release any more of his tax returns. He doesn't want the public to know just how much he gives to charity, and prefers to keep those figures private.

Releasing his tax returns would (paraphrase) "expose the level of his generosity, which is something that the Mormon Church frowns upon."

I wonder if the Mormon Church will back up that statement. You can bet that an answer to that quesion will be asked very soon.

August 23, 2012 at 10:31 p.m.
mymy said...

Winston Churchill:

“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”

dao1980 Good luck with your decision making. I do worry when you think the economy is doing ok. It is not and a continuation of current administration policies could destroy all you are working toward. You need to put aside and clear your brain on all the social and other distractions being thrown about and concentrate on the basics.

To me it is the economy/jobs/debt/spending/destructive Obamacare/national security.

Both sides of the isle got us here, but the O and co. has put everything on a death spiral to nowhere.

Just because you have a job today does not mean you will tomorrow the way things are going. Hope you are managing to pay yourself first (emergency funds and retirement) and living below your means.

August 23, 2012 at 10:32 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Bulbous: Methinks he was born in Hawaii. Methinks his applications to Occidental, Columbia, or Harvard (one or all) would state he was a Kenyan. It's called fraud.

August 23, 2012 at 10:50 p.m.

mymy, your appeal to authority fails. Attributing that quote to Churchill is wrong, turns out there's no evidence he said it.

Sorry, but it's just another platitude, and it's not even applicable to Churchill.

Jack_Dennis: It's called a groundless accusation, the kind of thing you were complaining about when it was Harry Reid.

August 23, 2012 at 10:57 p.m.
miraweb said...

Another fine Romney quote:

Big business is doing fine in many places. They get the loans they need, they can deal with all the regulation. They know how to find ways to get through the tax code, save money by putting various things in the places where there are low tax havens around the world for their businesses. Mitt Romney, Aug 23, 2012 Minneapolis, MN

The interesting year on Romney's taxes is 2009. That would have been the amnesty year on Swiss bank accounts as well as the most likely year for Romney to pay zero taxes. He has just the sort of mind that would think 13% of zero reported income is $0.00.

It does seem like he's ticked off somebody with rather good access to Bain's financials.

August 23, 2012 at 11:10 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Bulbous: Assume for a minute I'm right. Would it bother you? Would it bother the MSM? Or would it be "oh, he was just a kid'? BTW, I don't recall you chastising Dirty Harry Reid.

August 23, 2012 at 11:48 p.m.
miraweb said...

Probably the best quote from this week. It is traveling well right and left. I've seen it from Drudge to Kos, Democratic Underground to Red State. At last - the country is coming together!

I'm just tired of the Republican Party being the 'Stupid Party! Stupid people saying stupid things and scaring off independent voters and swing voters!

. . . Joe Scarborough, Morning Joe

Amen, brother. Sing it!

August 23, 2012 at 11:54 p.m.

Jack_Dennis: Assuming you to be right? Yes, because that'd be giving credit to a troll like you, who doesn't hold himself or his own side to the same standard he expects us to hold others.

That reminds me of something...

August 24, 2012 at 12:16 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Bulbous: Speaking of standards and you post a Jon Stewart link? That's rich.

August 24, 2012 at 1:57 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack_Dennnis wrote: "Methinks he was born in Hawaii. Methinks his applications to Occidental, Columbia, or Harvard (one or all) would state he was a Kenyan. It's called fraud."

Me thinks that theory is about as silly as anything that has ever come down the pike.

But since it is so popular to be thinking about conspiracies, allow me to wade in with one or two theories of my own that make a little more sense.

Thanks to the 950 pages of rather damning evidence posted by the Gawker, and given Mr. and Mrs. Romney's new defense for not releasing past tax returns, due to reasons that he claims are tied to their religious beliefs, lightbulbs are flashing all over the place.

Me thinks that Mitt Romney's primary fear is not of the intense scrutiny of his finances by the media and/or parties in opposition to his candidacy. His excuses are becoming more and more desperate. His hope, I'm sure, is that eventually, the rumors will die down.

Me thinks that what he and the Missus are both truly fearful of, would be the loss of favor with the Mormon Church if it were discovered that the 10% tithing figure he has claimed to have been giving to the Church for a number of years had been coming up woefully short.

Tithing to one's church is a personal choice, and I don't think that most American people would give a hoot if it were discovered that he had been shortchanging the collection plate. In talking to many people, I think most would overlook any proof that he took advantage of loopholes to reduce his obligations to the IRS.

However, when you are a Mormon, your feet are held to the fire rather forcefully to support the church by tithing a true 10% of your income. If it were revealed that his charitable donation claims to the church were less than 10% of his true income, it would be quite embarassing for him.

As I understand things, Mitt Romney is an elder of sorts within the Mormon Church. To reveal publicly what normally remains rather private for most Mormons, might prove him to have lied to the Church.

Oh my....

August 24, 2012 at 2:31 a.m.
alprova said...

Jack_Dennis wrote: "Speaking of standards and you post a Jon Stewart link? That's rich."

Say what you will, but Jon Stewart has established himself to have a very finely tuned B.S. detector, and he lays out an irrefutable case each and every time with a smile on his face.

August 24, 2012 at 2:45 a.m.
alprova said...

HWNB, thank you for posting a link to that Jon Stewart clip. That summed up the absurd hypocrisy by those who claim that it is only the left who divide America with wild accusations and hate speech.

The sad thing is, so many who bat right never see themselves as harboring and/or expressing that which they condemn in those perceived as enemies.

I had a personal discussion yesterday with a couple of far right leaning friends, who both went into a tirade about what a dirty campaign that the President was running.

I made the comment that it was Mitt Romney who drew first blood, infusing blatant lies about the President into his speeches repeatedly, which has caused the President to return fire.

You would not believe the looks of amazement on their faces and the responses of complete denial that came my way. To hear the two, Mitt Romney was the most honest and consistent politician to run for office that they had seen in years.

They went on to state that they had not heard one negative word uttered by Mitt Romney about the President. Not one.

August 24, 2012 at 3:13 a.m.
joneses said...

Judge Tom Head was on a local TV news show making his case for a tax increase, when he said hiring extra sheriff's deputies would especially be needed if Obama wins in November. From Lubbock's Fox 34 News: "He's going to try to hand over the sovereignty of the United States to the U.N., and what is going to happen when that happens?," Head asked. "I'm thinking the worst. Civil unrest, civil disobedience, civil war maybe. And we're not just talking a few riots here and demonstrations, we're talking Lexington, Concord, take up arms and get rid of the guy. "Now what's going to happen if we do that, if the public decides to do that? He's going to send in U.N. troops. I don't want 'em in Lubbock County. OK. So I'm going to stand in front of their armored personnel carrier and say 'you're not coming in here'. "And the sheriff, I've already asked him, I said 'you gonna back me' he said, 'yeah, I'll back you'. Well, I don't want a bunch of rookies back there. I want trained, equipped, seasoned veteran officers to back me." Sheriff Kelly Rowe told a Lubbock newspaper reporter he has never discussed any of the scenarios with the judge. On Wednesday, Judge Head explained his remarks in a video interview with the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal. He said his original comments were taken out of context. But as the county's emergency management director, he said he has to keep a "worst case scenario" in mind if Obama returns to the White House and Democrats control the Senate. "I have some opinions what they're doing and what they're trying to do if they stay in power," he said. "And I have to prepare for that."

August 24, 2012 at 6:16 a.m.
joneses said...

FDIC Statistics: Read 'em and Weep

The propaganda meme that is the FDIC, because, as far as one can tell, the vast majority of people think that the FDIC is a magical, omnipotent entity that has infinite resources and will magically swoop in to "take care of them" like a magic flying unicorn. This is what happens when you have a civilization filled with emotional children with exactly ZERO critical thinking skills. You have to hand it to the Communist infiltrators. They did a damn good job of brainwashing and psychologically destroying four generations of human beings. Per the Q4 2011 FDIC Chief Financial Officer's report to the Board, published on March 30, 2012, the FDIC's Deposit Insurance Fund had a balance of $11.8 billion dollars. Here is the link: Bank deposits in the United States at the same time are estimated to be between $8 TRILLION and $10 TRILLION. Let's be conservative and say the number is $8TTT. 11,800,000,000 divided by 8,000,000,000,000 equals 0.001475, which I will round UP to 0.0015. That is read as "fifteen hundredths of one percent". It isn't one percent, it is fifteen hundredths of one percent. That is how much the FDIC is carrying to back all of those little signs on the teller windows that say "Each Depositor insured to at least $250,000. Backed by the full faith and credit of the United States government." But hey! It could be worse! Back in 2009 the FDIC was completely insolvent - IN THE HOLE. So what they did was to force all of the banks to pay three years worth of premiums upfront in one year, in order to replenish the fund. And the FDIC has . . . $11.8 billion. I'm sorry, what were you saying about how I'm full of crap because it says right there on the sign at your bank that your deposits are guaranteed by the FDIC? If you believe that, you are stupid. Period. End of story. And at a certain point, you are responsible for your stupidity, and thus if you wallow in your stupidity, you will deserve whatever calamity befalls you as a result.

August 24, 2012 at 7:17 a.m.
mymy said...

74 Days to Go!

Be sure to do what Mooochell says: Get to the polls on Nov.2!

Michelle Obama, speaking yesterday at a campaign event in Florida:

August 24, 2012 at 7:55 a.m.
mymy said...

Happy: So I made a mistake re the quote. Still like it.

A reminder:

Conservative author Dinesh D’Souza’s new documentary, “Obama’s America: 2016,” is a hit at the box office.

Read more:

August 24, 2012 at 8:21 a.m.
mymy said...

2016 Obama's America:

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August 24, 2012 at 8:34 a.m.
mymy said...

Obama numbers re jobs:

Willie Geist, MSNBC: What would you say to that same person that said, 'Well, that hasn't worked for four years. I haven't had the job over time, it's time for a change.'

Stephanie Cutter, Obama deputy campaign manager: Well, I think that worker probably has a good understanding of what's happened over the past four years in terms of the president coming in and seeing 800,000 jobs lost on the day that the president was being sworn in, and seeing the president moving pretty quickly to stem the losses, to turn the economy around, and over the past, you know, 27 months we've created 4.5 million private sector jobs. That's more jobs than in the Bush recovery, in the Reagan recovery, there's obviously more we need to do, and as I said to Mika at the at beginning of the program, I think that unemployed worker probably sees one person in this race trying to move the country forward and that's the president.

The Obama campaign is cherry-picking the numbers…

Job Growth

Obama: Cutter counts the job gains from the low point of Obama’s term forward. The low point was February 2010 when U.S. nonfarm payrolls measured 129,244,00. In July, they measured 133,245,000 for a gain of 4.0 million jobs in 27 months.

Reagan: If you measure the Reagan recovery the same way, he created 8.0 million new jobs in 27 months.

Bush: And if you measure the Bush recovery the same way, the low point was in August 2003 when U.S. employment stood at 129,820,00. But 27 months later, the figure was 134,654,000 in November 2005 — a gain of 4.8 million jobs.

In this recovery, we’re still down over 3 million private sector jobs. By any number of measures, according to the AP, this recovery has been the weakest since WWII.

August 24, 2012 at 8:46 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Why is it that when the republicans questioned Jeramiah Wright's influence on Obama, the liberal media was saying that "well, religion shouldn't be a big deal in politics". "religion doesn't matter". All you libs didn't care much about Obama's "religious" beliefs then.

Now all of a sudden you bash Romney for being a Mormon? Hypocrites!

August 24, 2012 at 9:03 a.m.
mymy said...

The continuing myth that there is a recovery underway is one of the most frightening parts of this whole mess. That we have a government which tries to perpetuate this lie is criminal. With families still losing their homes and 8.3% unemployment, and a $16 trillion national debt, we can see what a failure this president and his regime really are. Vote wisely in November.

August 24, 2012 at 9:05 a.m.
Leaf said...

joneses, please take your medication

August 24, 2012 at 9:06 a.m.
joneses said...


That is stupid. Continue drinking your Hussein Obama Kool Aid and you will have the same fate as those followers of Jim Jones.

My My

The one thing Hussein Obama and the liberal journalist and the liberals on this site will not define is their definition of "forward". Why do they not come out and say where they want to move the country forward to? I think it is because if they explained their true agenda they know it would be unpopular so they have to lie and deceit their worshipers.

August 24, 2012 at 9:11 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Leaf: How are things in Guyana?

August 24, 2012 at 9:30 a.m.
joneses said...


These liberals actually think when they tell someone to "take a pill" or "take your medication" that it is the funniest thing in the world to say. It was stupid when it was said when the pill was invented and it is just as stupid now. But when they prove how stupid they are by falling for all the lies they are told by Hussein Obama why would we expect them to say something with a shred of intelligence? I guess people like us have a hard time accepting that so many people can be that dumb and gullible. They are like a bunch of lemmings.

August 24, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

joneses: ...and they're the enlightened ones! bwahahaha

August 24, 2012 at 9:44 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

<<<scary thought of the day: This fool could become president.

August 24, 2012 at 9:46 a.m.
dao1980 said...

mymy, That's good advice indeed. Everyone should work towards saving for a comfortable retirement, as well as having an emergency savings of two or more months of one's current salary. You never know what tomorrow can bring, maybe a promotion, maybe unemployment.

One thing I do know, no matter what it is that a person ends up doing occupationally, there will always be work for those who refuse to do without it.

I think I remember from... (elementary school maybe?) a kids story about mice, called "Who Moved the Cheese" about adapting to circumstances to stay in control of your financial future... or at least that's what I got out of it.

joneses, you're so irrational and emotional. I'm sure more than one or two folks reading these threads truly believes you're on the meds. Even if just heart-pills, to keep your ticker from popping in the middle of those wigglin conniptions.

August 24, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dao1980: joneses is just fervent.

August 24, 2012 at 10:14 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Jack, I can't argue with you there, fervent is an excellent descriptor.

Though I can't imagine it's a healthy lifestyle to be so excited about party politics.. or politics in general. "GO TEAM GO!"

August 24, 2012 at 10:25 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

True, dao. Exercise in futility. And no one's mind will be changed by anyone on here.

August 24, 2012 at 10:49 a.m.
jesse said...

Obama is a DUD! Romney is a LOOSE CANNON!

Sums up my opinion to a tee!!

August 24, 2012 at 11:56 a.m.
joneses said...


Not being gullible and believing in Hussein Obamas lies is not irrational. Believing in all the dummycrat lies is very irrational. You might want to check in with yourself on that one.

August 24, 2012 at 1:15 p.m.

Alprova, happy to post the link for you to see.

But the denials will still continue even with documented video evidence. I bet you could show your friends video of Romney's own words and they'd never own up to it.

Meanwhile I will say Obama has said bad things about Romney. Who wouldn't? The idea that you can't say anything to criticized your opponent is a preposterous one.

It's one thing to contend a statement is unfair or inaccurate, or just hysterically silly, even if i think they are in error, i can recognize that if iut were true it might have some vcalidity. But many Republicans go for the "Oh we never do it at all" and act like they don't do it.

That's a hard line of BS to swallow. Yet apparently we are.


Mymy, but now you can't claim Churchill as coverage. Now you have to defend the notion on its own merits.

August 24, 2012 at 1:22 p.m.
joneses said...

According to the liberal way of thinking now Hussein Obama is a murderer because he is responsible for his failed economic policies that cost the Empire State Building shooter to loose his job and kill his ex-employer. This sounds stupid does it not? Is is just as stupid as you liberals spouting off about Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney being responsible for the murder of the women who died of cancer after Mitt left Bain Capital. You liberals sure are being misled.

August 24, 2012 at 1:25 p.m.
dao1980 said...

Poor ol' tu, can't see the forest for the trees. You seem angry about things I've never said.

Do you actually have anything to add? Or are you just chafing in the saddle of loneliness?

You need to find someone tu, I bet you and joneses could keep each other gratified for hours on end. Whatcha think?

joneses, you also seem flustered about things I've never said. "believing dummycrats lies"?

And you wonder why everyone thinks you're on meds...

Oh! I almost forgot. GO TEAM GO!

August 24, 2012 at 1:26 p.m.
joneses said...

It is not that Hussein Obama's campaign is dirty it is just very dishonest and full of lies. And the many people that follow this fool and worship him is a sign of how our government schools are dumbing down America. If Hussein gets elected after all his failure we can honestly say America has become a nation of fools.

August 24, 2012 at 1:28 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

NBC preps for 1 hour special about Romney's religion.

Why not a 1 hour special on Obama's religion? Complete with interviews of Jeramiah Wright. I know you liberals agree. After all, it's the "fair" thing to do.

August 24, 2012 at 1:57 p.m.
miraweb said...

Political trivia time!

What does Focus on the Family, Coors Beer, the NRA, American Target Advertising, The National Right to Work Committee, the Club for Growth, and Todd Akin have in common?

Their leaders all sat down to dinner last night in Tampa at the "real" convention (not the marketing bit that goes on television).

Akin is damaged goods for the public view, but he still seems to have enough pull for the back room deals.

Interesting moment for a guy who last week was 15 points ahead and this week is 10 points behind.

August 24, 2012 at 2:15 p.m.
dao1980 said...

tu, are you observing a general consensus? Or just tinkling in your own wheaties?

August 24, 2012 at 2:15 p.m.
mymy said...

Can't wait till this election is over!

Many will be voting against Obama rather than for Romney. It's the economy/jobs/direction the country is being taken, etc. It will be against Obama polices that have made things worse in his attempt to fundamentally change this country.

It is amazing to look back and see how the American People were caught up in the moment of a promise of Hope and Change at a bad time by a smooth snake oil salesman. He has lost that smooth style and the real Obama is showing. He is just a Lying Chicago Thug Community Organizer. Many did not listened to what he was really saying and what kind of change he was talking about.

People refused to listen to those trying to vet him, but instead believing the MSM cheering bunch not doing it's job. Now many have or are waking up. Many now know the change we got is not what was promised, but to a state of hopelessness/fear/disappointment by many in this country because of Obama policies.

The truly dumb are those that will never see the truth.

Either way we are in for much harder times with O or hard times trying to fix his mess caused by promises made to win with no intention to keep.

If those who do not vote against O for the country and their own best interest, they must live in a confused/crazy/brain-dead state of mind!

August 24, 2012 at 2:15 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"Significantly, the mood of the crowds is different. There is a sullenness, even resentment, that was not present in 2008. Ask an Obama supporter about their man and as often as not you will get a few words about him and then a demeaning attack on Romney or Ryan".

Read more:

"Hope and change" turns into a "joyless slog". That's good stuff.

August 24, 2012 at 2:24 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Sorry mymy but I think you're wrong on that. I really don't think Obama is trying to fix this economy at all. It's impossible to have policies as he does, throw trillions of dollars away with nothing to show for it, promise outrageous entitlements to all, threaten to levy higher taxes on the job creators and expect the economy to roar back to life!

You can't make the economy this bad for this long by accident. This is exactly what the much hated Rush Limbaugh meant when he said "I hope he fails". Obama's plans are working perfectly as far as he's concerned. But I also think it worked better than he expected, he surely didn't want it this bad before the 2012 elections. His only miscalculation.

August 24, 2012 at 2:52 p.m.
mymy said...

Toes: Excuse me. When did I say Obama was working on the economy. Obama knows exactly what he is doing--purposely making things worse. Saw what he was before election and was confirmed by his action since. Bo has to GO!

August 24, 2012 at 3:33 p.m.
TOES02800 said...


August 24, 2012 at 3:52 p.m.
miraweb said...

Romney has started refusing interviews unless he gets to pick the topics. Apparently, Akin is now "He Who Must Not Be Named" in Romneyland.

August 24, 2012 at 4:07 p.m.
miraweb said...

Lots of trouble from the Ron Paul delegates in Tampa. Seems Ron Paul was dissed and will not be allowed to speak at the convention. After the delegates scheduled a Ron Paul rally the convention decided they would have a "video tribute" to Ron Paul - but he still won't be allowed to speak.

August 24, 2012 at 4:13 p.m.
fairmon said...

No doubt after reading most, not all, of the post here any number of people have been persuaded to switch their allegiance to the other party (sarcasm). I am waiting for either party to honestly admit what is wrong with America, explain it and the pain to be endured to fix it.

August 24, 2012 at 5:37 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

harp3339: there's no intellectual honesty on the left. only smugness.

August 24, 2012 at 5:50 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Jack_Dennis said... "harp3339: there's no intellectual honesty on the left. only smugness."

Jack_Dense... there's no intellect in that post. Only ignorant grunts.

August 24, 2012 at 6:34 p.m.
dude_abides said...

mymy said... 74 Days to Go! Be sure to do what Mooochell says: Get to the polls on Nov.2!

Michelle Obama, speaking yesterday at a campaign event in Florida:

August 24, 2012 at 7:55 a.m.

mymy said... Happy: So I made a mistake re the quote. Still like it.

Do you really have the audacity to take a shot at somebody for making an error and then try to say someone else is being petty for calling you out on your mistake? She got a number wrong, and you put words into someone's mouth! Typical. Absolutely typical. LOL Here's a quote that may or not be the truth, but it doesn't matter because I still like it. "If we can keep these southern dullards voting for us on issues like guns and gays, we'll continue to hold power and let our industrialists steal the natural resources from most of the countries in South America." - Ronald Reagan speaking to his first lady, Bonzo.

August 24, 2012 at 6:48 p.m.
prairie_dog said...

I had a dog that did that to my ex wife. Really. It was the FUNNIEST and MOST DESERVED thing I've ever seen in my life.

Oh, the so-called justice system is anything but. The story about the woman who complained about the judge, where the cops stopped the car she was in and MIRACULOUSLY found a magnetic box filled with meth UNDER THE CARD, after they had poked around, a bit, is a perfect example of how it really works. Like NAZI Germany, mostly, when you're just a common person with a beef against the system.

August 24, 2012 at 7:41 p.m.
tderng said...

dude_abides...mymy's quote is often attributed to Churchill.It was first uttered in a somewhat different form by mid-nineteenth century French historian and politician Francois Guizot, who said: "Not to be a republican at 20 is proof of want of heart; to be one at 30 is proof of want of head". He was referring to the controversy over whether France should be a republic or a monarchy.

so,yes you are being petty but typical of a liberal.It's ok for a liberal to make a mistake but not a conservative. I have heard this quote since I was in my twenties and find it to be very accurate in its current form.I was a lefty then until the real world smacked me in the face and I found out the touchy feely crap didn't work out in the real world.

August 24, 2012 at 9:18 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_ talks about audacity. Now that's a hoot.

August 24, 2012 at 9:43 p.m.
mymy said...

tderng: Thanks for answering the Dud (one that is ineffectual). I just laughed.

Oh, Dud is a good name for Obama also (one that is ineffectual)!

August 24, 2012 at 10:14 p.m.
mymy said...

I hope some of the dumb 0 crats here wise up like many other, but not holding my breath. This little hopie changie thing is not working people!

August 24, 2012 at 10:35 p.m.
dude_abides said...

tderng... it wasn't me who called him on the misquote, dipsh!t, it was happy! Can't you read? I was simply pointing out that he busted on Michelle Obama, and then immediately had to admit (to happy) that he was wrong about the quote, you silly, uncomprehending oaf. That's the problem with you D students, your reading comprehension skills make you see about 70% of the whole picture. No wonder THEY can appeal to your emotions and get you to vote against your own interests! Read it all again and I will graciously accept the apology that you proffer to maintain your credibility.

August 24, 2012 at 10:40 p.m.
dude_abides said...

mymy said... "tderng: Thanks for answering the Dud (one that is ineffectual). I just laughed."

You don't even know how you stepped on it, do you? But still you laughed? LOL At what, mymy? Please elucidate how your admitting that you misquoted Churchill and then saying you didn't care because you "still liked it" gives you any room, after busting on Michelle Obama, to laugh or to even claim to have a scrap of credibility. mymy indeed. LMAO

August 24, 2012 at 10:51 p.m.
dude_abides said...

tderng said... " I have heard this quote since I was in my twenties and find it to be very accurate in its current form."

It's current form??? A quote can change form and origin in your world? So it's okay for me to quote Al Gore as having said "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"? Or Mitt Romney's opinion that "if the glove don't fit, you have to acquit."? Who said "one small step for man, etc." in your world, David Bowie? Thanks for the chuckles.

August 24, 2012 at 11:03 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Quoth the Raven, nevermind! LOL
The meek shall inhibit their birth. ha! Fool me once... you can't be fooled again. HA!

See what it leads to? Try a little veracity in your lives!

August 24, 2012 at 11:18 p.m.
alprova said...

tderng wrote: "I have heard this quote since I was in my twenties and find it to be very accurate in its current form.I was a lefty then until the real world smacked me in the face and I found out the touchy feely crap didn't work out in the real world."

Wow. It must be tough to admit that you once had a heart, but were able to turn off all your emotions to join in and unite with all the other heartless people in this nation.

August 24, 2012 at 11:34 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Oops! Left Jack_Off my list. Get bent, Captain Klangaroo.

August 24, 2012 at 11:35 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_: Do you live any sort of life? Do you have friends? How many tatts? Wear wife beaters?

August 25, 2012 at midnight
alprova said...

Harp3339 wrote: "I am waiting for either party to honestly admit what is wrong with America, explain it and the pain to be endured to fix it."

Okay, I suppose that we can find some middle ground in the fact that neither party or their leaders has any or all of the answers, but the blame seems to go all the way to the top nonetheless.

Many people are under some false illusion that one man elected to this nation's highest office can magically cure this nation's ills overnight.

I have a short list of things that our politicians could do to reverse what has led to the state we find ourselves in. They are;

1.) We are not the world's police force. We are not charged with protecting and serving other nations. No more troops should be deployed outside of the United States for any reason. The military should only be dispatched to protect our nation's borders from invasion or attack. The cost savings in adopting this one policy would be astronomical.

2.) One simple solution that would reverse a thirty year exodus of manufacturing jobs from this country would be to pass legislation that would allow former employers who moved offshore to repatriate all their foreign earnings back into the U.S., without penalty or taxes assessed them, if they used a part of those funds to relocate manufacturing facilities back home too.

Such a move should also include a provision to protect these manufacturers from unions for life. Exempt them from all corporate taxes for ten years as an incentive and a means by which to additionally weather the costs associated with coming back home.

3.) Eliminate the income tax and replace it with the Fair Tax plan, which accomodates the poor with pre-bate checks each month to prevent them from paying taxes that they can ill afford to pay. At the same time, even those who are sitting on nest eggs and no longer need or earn any income, would pay taxes on purchases that they make.

A conversion to a consumption tax would eliminate immediately and forever, any and all class warfare arguments.

4.) Both parties should go to work to preserve Social Security and Medicare for all those who truly need it and depend upon it. If any goal is to steer people away from these two programs, the starting point needs to be when young people enter the workforce. Pass a law that makes sense. Mandate that people with full-time employment contribute a portion of their earnings to a personal retirement plan, teach them to maintain it, prevent any and all temptation to borrow funds from it, and prohibit people from suspending contributions to it.

It would take 45 years or so to make the transition to make everyone self-supporting, with the exception of those who are truly and undeniably disabled.

Will any of the above ever seriously be debated? I'm not about to hold my breath.

August 25, 2012 at 12:18 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

"70% of Obama's 19 million twitter followers are fake"

His whole life is fake.

August 25, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Alpo: You just got all the answers, don't you.

August 25, 2012 at 9:44 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

"2016: Obama's America" is apparently a big hit! Face it Obama's "happy time" is over.

August 25, 2012 at 11:55 a.m.

dude_abides, I noticed the hypocrisy myself. Then they try to rag on you for pointing it out?


I wonder if it's deliberate, or do they just not realize what they're doing? Do they lack the sense to recognize their actions, or is it pure dishonestly?

August 25, 2012 at 12:31 p.m.
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