published Monday, August 27th, 2012

5-at-10: Game week and youth is served

Gang, it's here. It's all happening.

From the talks too much studios, here we go.


We are in college footbal game week. You're stoked. We're stoked. Heck, the Mrs. 5-at-10 cleared Thursday's slate for grilling and Vandy-South Carolina. It's go time gang. Giddy-up.

We have made top five lists for the last couple of weeks. They have covered a range of topics. In honor of Macaulay Culkin turning 32 on Sunday, here are the top five child stars we're going to know a lot more about by Thanksgiving. (These are the top five freshmen in college football in our view.)

1) Wes Lunt, Oklahoma State — Not many teams in the preseason top 15 give the keys to a quarterback who was at the prom three months ago. Welcome to the Big 12 Young Mr. Lunt, the challenge is great.

2) Keith Marshall/Todd Gurley, Georgia — Each freshman has enjoyed some bright moments in preseason practice and when talent meets opportunity, there could be big things

3) T.J. Yeldon, Alabama — This kid would be first, but there is some talent ahead of him. Know this, though: If Eddie Lacy and Jalston Fowler do not seize the carries afforded them, Yeldon and Dee Hart will make them after thoughts.

4) Dorial Green-Beckham, Missouri — Amazingly talented, DGB may have too much opportunity. He's going to get veteran treatment from every defense he faces.

5) Greg Robinson, Auburn — The redshirt freshman left tackle is big and quick and one of the few certainties on the Tigers front.


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    American League's Adrian Gonzalez of the Boston Red Sox watches a hit during the final round of the MLB Home Run Derby Monday, July 11, 2011, in Phoenix. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.


Wow, over the weekend, Boston sent Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford (who is out for the year with an injury), Nick Punto, Paul Revere's house, Pesky's Pole, Matt Damon and a lifetime supply of clam chowder (how's it pronounced Spy?) to L.A. for James Looney, a couple of minor leaguers a bag of balls and a star on the walk of fame to be named later.

With the move, the Dodgers energized a city and informed baseball that the new ownership group that paid roughly $2 billion for the club earlier this year sees the Dodgers as the Yankees of the West.

With the move, the Boston raised the white flag on this season — which was unofficially done weeks ago — and tried to relieve a ton of financial responsibilities in the future. The Dodgers took on almost $250 million in payroll through 2017.

There is a ton of discussion about which team won this deal — the Dodgers look like they have added stars, the Red Sox have added flexibility. In fact, there are some folks that view this as the baseball version of the Herschel Walker trade that made the Cowboys a dynasty in the early 1990s by dealing him.

Boston also indirectly supported manager Booby Valentine by acknowledging the dysfunction of the locker room and making the extremely rare move of clearing the deck rather than clearing the bridge.

What does in means? It means the Sox are rebuilding. It means there will be tons of topics for Boston columnists and radio talks show folks. It means the Dodgers lineup features Shane Victorino, Hanley Ramirez and Adrian Gonzalez and could be a factor this year and certainly next.

Now they will have to pay for it down the road, but the Dodgers are a player again, and that's enough to make every Dodgers fan every where smile.

Heck, Vin Scully's excited for crying out loud.


NFL getting close, too

There's a lot of NFL storylines. Your fantasy drafts. The Falcons being a legit NFC title contender. The Titans are going to be better than we thought. Peyton Manning looking like, well, Peyton Manning. (Side note: Manning went 10-for-12 with two TDs and took some legit hits. He looked really good, and if you had your fantasy draft this weekend and got Peyton in the eighth round,here's saying you feel pretty good about it. Not as good as Johnny Broncos Fan feels every time we see Tim Tebow overthrows a Jets teammate in the preseason, but still.)

The story that stunned the 5-at-10 this weekend dealt with a flamboyant wide receiver. And no, this has nothing to do with Terrell Owens. (OK, who had Aug. 26 when T.O. was going to be released by the Seahawks? If the over/under had been Labor Day, then the under hits and surprises no one.)

No this has to do with Dez Bryant, the oft-troubled, uber-talented and under-performing Dallas receiver.

Bryant, who was last in the headlines for a domestic violence charge levied by his mother (yes, he allegedly assaulted his momma), has been given a strict set of rules by the Cowboys. Here are the highlights:

— no alcohol;

— no strip clubs;

— only nightclubs that are approved by the Cowboys;

— a midnight curfew;

— a rotating three-man team of security folks who will be with him at all times and take him to all team functions.

Wow, Bryant is officially the world's highest paid kindergartener.

There's something to be said about protecting your investment, so we get the Cowboys motivation. There's something to be said about being protected from yourself at times. But at what point does the 23-year-old Bryant look up and realize he has a 24-hour babysitter.

This is a guy that if he could get his head straight could be the second-best receiver in the league. He could be in line for tens of millions of dollars in the immediate future. He could be a Hall of Famer.

And he has someone wiping his nose for him.


This and that

— Gang we're going to do the "Can you beat Jay" pick contest again this year. Here's the link Sign up and enjoy. It's here. It's all happening.

— The Braves salvaged two wins in San Francisco thanks in large part to Jason Heyward, who has become the team's best player, and Tim Hudson, who won his seventh consecutive decision. Heyward has homered in three consecutive games and looks great. Want some more good news Braves fans? The Braves have 32 games left, and only six — three against the Nationals and three against the Pirates — are against teams that are in contention and playing for anything more than pride and the future.

— Now that's NASCAR. At Bristol, when the bumpin' and rubbin' and cussin' and spittin' hits sixth gear on the 1/2-mile oval, tempers flared after Matt Kenseth and Tony Stewart got sideways — on and off the track. Kenseth and Stewart collided and after his car was removed, Stewart chunked his helmet into the hood of Kenseth's car driving down pit road. Yep, it's getting late in the year and temperatures are rising. Giddy-up. (Oh yeah, Denny Hamlin won the race and the resurrection of Jeff Gordon continued with a third-place finish for the driver formerly known as the Rainbow Warrior.)

— Hats off to the Goodlettsville lads for making the finals of the Little League World Series. Saturday's U.S. title game — the Goodlettsville's kid hitting three HRs and driving in nine, California rallying in the final inning from 15-5 down to force extra innings and Goodlettsville scored nine in the top of the seventh for an eventual 24-16 win — was amazing.

— OK, who had Aug. 26 when T.O. was going to be released by the Seahawks? If the over/under had been Labor Day, then the under hits and surprises no one.

— One more NFL tidbit: The league is pepper with not enough Mr. Rights at QB but a slew of Mr. Right Nows. There will be five rookie starters this year — Luck in Indy, RG III in D.C., Ryan Tannehill in Miami, Brandon Weeden in Cleveland and Russell Wilson in Seattle. That's 15 percent of the league, and if you're looking for fantasy edges, the better defenses in the leagues with those guys — the 49ers, the Steelers, the Jets, etc. — will get at least two games against mistake-prone rookie QBs. In fact, the Texans may be the best fantasy defense on the board considering they are going to see Luck twice, first-year Tennessee starter Jake Locker twice and second-year Jacksonville starter Blaine Gabbert twice.


Today's question

We're tipping our cap to the young stars of today and yesteryear.

We already mentioned Mr. Culkin celebrating his 32nd birthday on Sunday, which seems unreal.

We also need to mention Lydia Ko, the 15-year-old girl who won on the LPGA Tour this weekend. Jason Sobel tweeted that Ko was not born when Tiger Woods won his first major. Heck, 30-year-old Serena Williams had been a pro tennis player for two years when Ko was born.

With that, who's on your Mount Rushmore of child stars? We'll take Culkin, Shirley Temple, Ron Howard, Drew Barrymore. Thoughts?

about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

Who wins the Red Sox-Dodgers deal?

Everybody wins. The Red Sox get out from under the contracts. The Dodgers (who used to write on their line-up card "Etc, etc, etc, Kemp, etc, etc, etc, etc, today the day we start Kershaw?") now have in their lineup Kemp, Hanley Ramirez, Adrian Gonzalez, and (next year) Carl Crawford). Say what you want about HanRam's and Crawford's struggles on their team this year- these are legitimate top of the order kind of guys who will have Kemp and Gonzalez batting behind them. Whew. That offense just went lights out. The biggest give away for the Dodgers? Probably Rubby De La Rosa, a SP who looked very good last year before he needed Tommy John surgery. If he comes back healthy, he could be the top of the rotation guy the Red Sox need desperately.

I love what the Dodgers did, and continue to say that they are the favorite in the NL. A few weeks ago, I went with the Braves as the favorite- that has clearly shifted to the Dodgers.

And neither one of them lead their division. But who really believes the Nationals or Reds (or Giants) are built for October baseball this year? The Cardinals, Braves, and Dodgers are the three favorites in the NL, without leading their division. Should be a wild September.

And football season is finally almost here. I am home. It's all happening.

August 27, 2012 at 10:32 a.m.
chas9 said...

Jaden Smith is good. Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland were pretty big when small. And Dora the Explorer.

Finish this sentence: If Eddie Lacy and _? Linda Lovelace?

Sure wish we'd had a contest to pick the day on which T.O. would be terminated.

August 27, 2012 at 10:33 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

Yeah, 5, looks like your ADD got the best of ya in the T.J. Yeldon breakdown.

It's pronounced ... stew. (Really, it's chow, as in chow, and der, as in duh.)

I guess the Dodgers didn't want take Bobby Valentine back. Hate losing Adrian Gonzalez, but when Big Papi went down, it was as if two icebergs hit the Titanic. They were 13-22 in his absence and it looks like he's done again.

The Phils sweeping the Nats (who saw that coming?) got the Braves right back in the NL East race, because that was pretty much of an afterthought on the flight to the Left Coast. But the wild card is no cinch, either. The Dodgers just got much better (Nick Punto puts them over the top), the Giants are still good, the Pirates are a scrappy bunch (plus ... they're Pirates!) and the Cardinals are showing who needs Albert Pujols or Tony LaDUIa. (Yes, that was mean. But he's a jerk).

August 27, 2012 at 10:42 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

5-at-10 figures we all already do know this about TJ Yeldon. He doesn't need to tell us....

August 27, 2012 at 11:08 a.m.
Blueoval said...

If I had the money I would match the Cowboy's money and then offer Bryant a curfew of 1:00 to see if he could take it because my son's 2nd and 3rd grade flag team could really use a good receiver.... it's unbelievable how far a team is willing to go but as you said it's protecting the investment. Pretty soon you may see teams taking insurance policies out on players who can't grow up and act like responsible adults. It's sad!

The driver formerly known as the Rainbow Warrior is done for this year if he doesn't win in the next couple of weeks. You will see a few of the drivers go wreakers or checkers in the next two races because if they don't win they are out of the chase.

My Mrs. rolled her eyes about the TN cheerleading outfit that I came home with this weekend for our 7 month old girl. I had to explain to her that the best time of year is finally upon us and that our daughter needs to be a part of it as well so she might as well dress the part.

Child stars.....Whatch ya talkin bout Willis?? Gary Coleman

August 27, 2012 at 11:21 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Stuck —

We concur that each side won. Although the folks that bought the Dodgers must be super-well-heeled to float those kind of notes.

And who is the king of L.A. right now? It's Magic Johnson — and this may be the first time Magic has made Boston fans happy, too.

9er —

Thanks for the catch. Tis fixed and wow, a Linda Lovelace reference super early on Monday? Seh did do good work on "Alice." What? That was Linda Lavin? Really?

Where were we?

Spy —

Here's saying Mrs. Valentine does not want Booby back right now.

Hard not to like the Dodgers' roster right now.

— 5-at-10

August 27, 2012 at 11:30 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Well I was hoping to remain dorminent this morning but since you brought up DB, this Dallanoogan needs to provide the local perspective.

When the news first came out about Dez's off-the-field altercation, it was all over the DMN like a bad sunburn after a day out in the middle of Lake Chickamauga with cloudy overcast. The Jay Greesons and Mark Wiedmers of the DMN were basically writing their take in much of the same fashion as here: high maintenence, low performance. However, this is not a major shock to me personally. Dez, to the best of my memory, is I believe the third player for the Cowboys placed under "supervision" as it were (based on my timeline here which began in 2007). Its almost not a newsstory in regards to shock value but down here, ALL Cowboys news is front page. Even if it involves Tony Romo eating a fried shrimp basket at Hook, Line, and Sinker for no apparent reason (It's the place I go to when I get a "Nikki's" craving).

In fact, the Rangers do the EXACT same thing with Hamilton. He is given a "father figure" as it were to "supervise" him so he doesn't fall off the wagon. This wasn't made public until Ian Kinsler caught him at a bar in uptown falling off the wagon. The person that was suppose to supervise him was traded to another team and his father-in-law, who did it once before, flat out refuses to do it again.

What can you do? (besides telling them to grow a pair)

Sidenote: College Blitz still has not arrived in my mailbox. But the Dallas-area high school information you requested has been mailed.

August 27, 2012 at 11:31 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

Child stars ...

Reese Witherspoon (started young and starred with the great Sam Waterston in a movie)

Jackie Earle Haley (Kelly Leak, for the uninformed)

Gary Coleman

Michael Jackson

Ralph Macchio. Soon to play his own grandson in something, I bet.

August 27, 2012 at 11:32 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

One last thing: I am excited about seeing Orange (deer hunting not "burnt") and White this Friday and Blue and Gold on Saturday. I'd throw in some Green and White but that game is going to be a massacure. (They're playing LSU in their $$$$ game).

August 27, 2012 at 11:42 a.m.
fechancellor said...

Ten Ring, saw you roaming the Signal side line during the second half of the Tyner game Friday night and read your fair-n-balanced article Saturday.

Let's remain fair, but not so balanced. If you were to write a column comparing this year's Eagles squad and last year's addition, what do you see as the key differences from coaching to play on the field?

One man's Mount Rushmore: Micky Rooney, Shirley Temple (especially winsome later in Fort Apache), Jerry Mathers, Ron Howard

August 27, 2012 at 12:19 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Oval —

Concur, and we have the 2-year-old Lil Miss 5-at-10 an AU cheerleading uni. She'll likely be in it this weekend.

We're kind of excited about Atlanta and Richmond with the wreckers or checkers approach. That's how it should be. Shake-n-Bake. Yes, that just happened.

We considered Coleman, but we've seen "The Kid from Leftfield" in which he manages the Padres, and it's one of the worst sports movies ever. (And that's saying something folks.)

Run JMC —

Great news about the DMN prep football stuff.

And we're not bagging on the Cowboys — or the Rangers with Hamilton — for putting the task force on Dez. We're bagging on Dez for needing it.

Spy —

You know a Rushmore is four. And Jackie Earle was not even the best Bear.

1) Tanner

2) Amanda

3) Engleburg/Kelly

— 5-at-10

August 27, 2012 at 12:31 p.m.
jgreeson said...


Yes, the Mean Green is going to see a lot of mean and a lot of green. And little success.

FE to the C —

Mathers was a strong call.

As for the Eagles last year to this:

Last year, Reese was the main unknown — and he turned out to be a pretty solid answer.

This year, there are a lot of players stepping on the field — be them sophomores or seniors — who have not experienced a lot of Friday night lights. There were a lot of battle-tested kids last year — Queen, Patton, Bowman, Price, Hall, and a slew of linemen — that had seen a bunch. This group is experiencing a lot of this for the first time ever.

That said, after watching the Eagles play, we're not sure why every Eagles defender is within 5-7 yards of the line of scrimmage. That type of formation almost always results in big plays — either for you or against you — and right now missed tackles are leading to TDs.

Tyner had five TDs Friday — a 10-year dive, a 16-yard QB scramble, a 59-yard reverse and an 80-yard draw (the other was the kickoff return) — and other than the QB scramble, there was one missed tackle then the guy was gone. (There were a slew of missed tackles of the QB run.)

That said, this team still has talent and will make the playoffs. And we were impressed with what Bill told them after the game.

Long season and you have to trust it.

— 5-at-10

August 27, 2012 at 12:39 p.m.
chas9 said...

From what I've heard about young Caulkin, it might be a good idea if he abided by the Dez Bryant rules.

August 27, 2012 at 12:40 p.m.
mcpell3 said...

Here are 4 for the Mt Rushmore of child stars who didn't do anything after puberty... George "Spanky" McFarland Billie "Buckwheat" Thomas Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer Darla "Darla" Hood

August 27, 2012 at 12:41 p.m.
Blueoval said...

Good post Chas on Caulkin/Dez...very true!

Jay, I totally agree with how the Signal D is lined up. I believe they do have a new DC this year but I hope it's something Coach Price will see on film as well and get corrected. Mistackles though will get anyone beat.

August 27, 2012 at 12:56 p.m.
fechancellor said...

Ten Ring, thanks for the fullsome response. Kickoff returns were problematic last year, and this year Signal has yet to demonstrate the offensive scoring that shrugs off such lightning strikes.

I heard some grousing that kicking out of bounds and letting the opposition set up shop on the 40 is the smart play.

If Signal is indeed playoff bound the test begins Friday at home against Bledsoe County.

August 27, 2012 at 1:11 p.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

True that about Culkin. That said, if our parents had done to us what Culkin's did to him — apparently his old man swiped like millions from the young actor — we'd find the working end of a bottle every now and again, too.

McPell —

As for child actors that did next to nothing after the fact beyond the Lil' Rascals:

Chunk from Goonies, Most of the cast of Little Giants (underrated, by the way) and Oliver from the Brady Bunch.

And how did we get this far on child actors and no one mentioned the Coreys?

Oval —

We believe the Signal coaches are doing everything they can to have success, so they certainly have their reasons, it just makes it tough on everyone when you're dealing with unknowns — in all regards.

— 5-at-10

August 27, 2012 at 1:13 p.m.
jgreeson said...

FE to the C —

Whoever threw out the kicking it out of bounds and taking their chances may be on to something. Tyner and East Hamilton each had returns for scores, no?

— 5-at-10

August 27, 2012 at 1:25 p.m.
chas9 said...

MCP3--The Rascals crew is hard to top. Didn't one of the little tykes grow up to be the surly Robert Blake?

August 27, 2012 at 2:28 p.m.
mcpell3 said...

Chas9 - Robert Blake played Mickey in LR, who was a lot more lovable as a tyke and Baretta than in his retirement years.

August 27, 2012 at 3:41 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Carl "Alfalfa" Switzer did do some post Rascals work with "The Gashouse Gang" which was basically the same as Little Rascals but with teenagers. Though the public never really took to it and he died tragically in a hunting accident. Also, there's an urban legand although I am sure I can look this up, that Billie "Buckwheat" Thomas was originally from Cleveland (yes, the one in East Bradley County).

August 27, 2012 at 3:50 p.m.
fechancellor said...

Yes sir, you are correct. I agree, although I can't take credit for the idea. #7's dad came up with it after reflecting upon the the two returns this year and the two returns by South Pittsburgh last year.

August 27, 2012 at 5:26 p.m.
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