What do we know about Obama?
In response to the Times editorial (Aug. 18), "Romney's tax-dodge dance": The author presented five key questions about Romney's refusal to reveal his income tax. Let's turn the tables a bit.
How about President Obama releases his personal information that some say he spent millions to seal?
How did he get into Columbia/Occidental; possibly as a foreign exchange student? Who even remembers him at Columbia? Any grades?
What about Harvard, same question?
How much influence did known pastors have on his thinking? Why doesn't he have the moral courage to denounce these individuals?
I think it's safe to say we know less about this president's background than any other. Why won't he release all his personal information?
This may be a little sarcastic but in the words of the writer "these are just speculative questions, of course. But they are serious to some ..."
Are you going to vote again for this unknown individual who failed as a leader?
JOE WEST
Elect Clemmer in East Ridge
I served on the East Ridge City Council for two terms in 1960, and because of that experience and the knowledge I gained while serving, I feel that it gives me a little more insight into what it takes to be a city councilman.
First and foremost is the "character" of the candidate. I can say with all honesty, this trait is above reproach in the young man we are speaking of.
Second is the ability of the person to make the right decisions that will have an impact on us as citizens of East Ridge. The young man I will name shortly has many years of experience in retail management, which has put him in a supervisory roll of not only working with people but within set budgets as well.
The third thing that stands out in this young man is the extreme passion and interest he has exhibited in the welfare of the citizens of East Ridge.
It is an honor for me as a former mayor of our city to endorse a young man who exhibits all the above qualifications. That young man is John Clemmer. I ask that on Nov. 6 you vote for John and place him on the City Council of East Ridge.
TOM SHAVER, East Ridge
State comparisons on scores mislead
The Times editorial "ACT scores: A mixed report," (Aug. 23) well described the details of ACT scores and their importance for college-bound students. However, one significant factor was not explained.
The editorial said ACT scores "offer a reasonably reliable state-to-state comparison of student performance." This would be accurate if all states tested the same percentage of students. Unfortunately, that's not the case.
Both the nation and Georgia tested 52 percent of their students last year, an Aug. 22 story said. Tennessee requires all high school juniors to take the test. As a result, a sizable number of Tennessee students taking the exam don't want to go to college, have not academically prepared for college, or are totally disinterested in taking the test.
High School principals have told me they estimate this lowers Tennessee scores by approximately 1.5 points. It is logical to surmise that if Tennessee tested its best 52 percent students, both the statewide and Hamilton County scores would undoubtedly be higher.
Regardless, Tennessee annually ranks between 46th and 48th out of the 50 states in per-student expenditure for K-12 education. As the business community would say, "We're getting what we're paying for."
KENNETH BARKER, Hixson
Joe West wants to compare apples and lemons. While we want Romney to release tax returns -- like every Presidential candidate in recent memory -- Joe West resorts to irrelevant questions that have NOT been asked of others.
Turning the tables again, Joe: How did George W. get into Yale? Certainly not based on grades. Oh, right, he was a "legacy" admittee.
Joe believes "some say" Obama paid to seal his school records. Those who say that know nothing of academic privacy.
Meanwhile, "some say" Romney is a virtual criminal for stripping millions out of American companies, stranding their workers, and sending the money to secret off-shore accounts.
He's hiding something big. Every other candidate has released many years of tax returns. Let's see Romney's.
moon, apples and oranges I think not. If Obama had nothing to hide he would have Holder turn over all the fast and furious docs. If he had nothing to hide he would open his records. If he had nothing to hide he would really get the leaks problem taken care of, release his medical records, how he got a conn. SS#, His law client list,college funding recordsand the list could go on and on.
Romney did use his own money to try to save companies and Obama uses taxpayers money and Obamas track record is far from impressive. The steel company went down 3years after he left Bain.
degage,
"If Obama had nothing to hide he would have Holder turn over all the fast and furious docs."
Holder turned over thousands of documents regarding Fast and Furious. You need to read this article before you keep running your mouth.
http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06/27/fast-and-furious-truth/
"If he had nothing to hide he would open his records."
If Romney had nothing to hide, he would release his tax returns.
"If he had nothing to hide he would really get the leaks problem taken care of, release his medical records, how he got a conn. SS#, His law client list,college funding recordsand the list could go on and on."
And the same could be said for Romney. Although it would probably be more coherent.
"Romney did use his own money to try to save companies"
Prove it.
"Obama uses taxpayers money"
That's part of the job title of government. Every President in US history used taxpayer money.
"Obamas track record is far from impressive."
False. I can think of many successes.
"The steel company went down 3years after he left Bain."
No one really knows when Romney left Bain.
What makes most of us think that Obama was not born in the U.S. is because he doesn't behave like an American. He hates our economic systems, he hates our military, he hates the idea that we are a nation of ideas not ethnicities, he hates the very social fabric that has held this country together for over two centuries.
His absolute hate for this country is a result of his growing up in Islamic Indonesia and his life long association with Marxist and drug abusers.
I would never link to a CNN site to get the truth about Eric Holder. CNN is a regime controlled propaganda crapster.
JonRoss,
"What makes most of us think that Obama was not born in the U.S. is because he doesn't behave like an American."
Prove it.
"He hates our economic systems, he hates our military, he hates the idea that we are a nation of ideas not ethnicities, he hates the very social fabric that has held this country together for over two centuries."
Prove it.
"His absolute hate for this country is a result of his growing up in Islamic Indonesia and his life long association with Marxist and drug abusers."
Obama is a self-proclaimed Christian. Which Marxists and drug abusers are you referring to? I don't think he was ever friends with G. W. Bush.
"I would never link to a CNN site to get the truth about Eric Holder. CNN is a regime controlled propaganda crapster."
The article is from Fortune Magazine, dumbass. You wouldn't know the truth anyway. You hang from the nuts of Rush Limbaugh and Fox News too much to be able to discern truth.
Everyone, just read 123 above and you will understand the absolute lunacy of the Obamist world view.
And let us never forget he produced a forged/fraudulent birth certificate and claimed it was his own. When called on it, he produced a state official to swear the certificate was on record -- but we all know officials can be bought, don't we. Perhaps his father's name -- or maybe his mother's -- are not on it... How about that SSN from a state he never resided in... Do his school records show he got favorable attention as a foreign student? We know nothing about the man except his fanatical obsession to destroy our country, our economy, our military, et al.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness
That pretty well describes his intent to control all Americans and American industry, waterways, resources of all kinds inducing human, health, transport, banking, absolutely everything in this country including all of us.
Is an Executive Order enough proof? ...actually, I doubt anything against this megalomanic, even by his own hand, would be enough.
JonRoss, you're wrong. Obama is an American. And, a majority of voters in the last presidential election liked the way he thinks.
What's really un-American is the hatred, ignorance and lies that you repeatedly spew.
JonRoss,
No proof, eh? You can't even back up your own rhetoric. Why should anyone take you seriously?
Rolando,
All of your claims against Obama have been debunked. Would you like to avoid further embarassment and offer a retraction or shall I proceed with providing links?
No doubt Barry Sotero is a U.S. citizen. He just does not have the heart and soul of an American. Sortero sat in the church of Jeremiah Wright for 20 years. That is all the evidence anyone needs as to the hate our President has for our country.
I just hope that Romney will do the correct thing and NOT pardon Obama after he leaves office.
Oh lordy, here comes the CNN and NPR links.
JonRoss,
"That is all the evidence anyone needs as to the hate our President has for our country."
That literally serves as no proof whatsoever.
"I just hope that Romney will do the correct thing and NOT pardon Obama after he leaves office."
Your psychosis has been duly noted.
Evidently the White House Press office release of an Executive Order is NOT sufficient proof of duplicity, malfeasance, and the evil intent of the Chief Executive for some here...maybe The Messiah will debunk his own Order? Yeah, right. Fat chance. [Unless one chooses to ignore Executive Orders and bury their head...as some do.]
Rolando,
You have yet to prove that the National Defense and Preparedness EO has anything to do with " his intent to control all Americans and American industry, waterways, resources of all kinds inducing human, health, transport, banking, absolutely everything in this country including all of us."
You can't even prove your own rhetoric. Why should anyone take your B.S. seriously?
Maybe you will actually take the time to prove your claims. Oh wait, you've already been given that opportunity and did nothing. I'm sure you'll provide proof now, correct? Fat chance.
JonRoss: You dragging your knuckles along side timbo? Obama's not an American! Like you are? People like you just piss me off! You think you got the monopoly on Americanism. The majority of this country has been beat up, kicked around, and fleeced of its money by your so-called Americans. Your not American. You're one of the sheep who swallows the conservative extremist spin so you can go back to wearing a tri-cornered hat and wave a flintlock claiming your this grand patriot. What a fantasy!
Did you actually read and comprehend the E.O., Easy? Or did you just whip something out off the top of your head without bothering?
Did you note where, IN PEACETIME as well as war, the Prez now -- today -- has the authority to control, seize, divert, and take absolutely everything and everyone in the US -- to include involuntary servitude [like the draft]. All in the name of national security or anything HE considers a threat to the peace. That includes whether or not we will be allowed to travel [by ANY means including walking] to vote this year. He even includes INTRAstate travel under the commerce clause.
Read Section 8 [an appropriate title for this insane E.O.] You won't even be able to walk to the market to buy food, etc. Need prescription drugs? You will need his permission. He now has the authority to cut off your power, water, etc.
This is no conspiracy; it is an overt power grab.
Rolando,
Did you actually read and comprehend the E.O., Rolando? Or did you just whip something out off the Right-wing Propaganda machine without bothering?
Everything you have just stated is conjecture and/or completely false. Read Section 8, again. Nothing that you said is in Section 8 or that entire executive order.
It is entirely a conspiracy. It is very common among your ilk. You believe everything the Right-wing Propaganda machine says. You don't even take the time to do research before you spew your garbage.
Read up, sweetheart:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ndrp.asp
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/no-its-not-martial-law-its-preparedness/
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/03/18/national-defense-resources-preparedness-executive-order-power-grab-or-update/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/03/obama-national-defense-resources-martial-law
tipper said... JonRoss: You dragging your knuckles along side timbo? Obama's not an American! Like you are? People like you just piss me off! You think you got the monopoly on Americanism. The majority of this country has been beat up, kicked around, and fleeced of its money by your so-called Americans. Your not American. You're one of the sheep who swallows the conservative extremist spin so you can go back to wearing a tri-cornered hat and wave a flintlock claiming your this grand patriot. What a fantasy!
Amen Tipper! It is these knuckle draggers that will facilitate the bankruptsy of our local, state, and federal governments. Which will allow the dominionists and foreign entities to come in and buy us out for pennies on the dollar. They will take our nation and sell it to the lowest bidder, and yet they know not what they do. The idiots have no desire to run this country, they would rather buy it. Everything these guys are doing, church and state, women's rights, police brutality, protestor rights, it is all to spend our government's tax payer money for us to defend the constitution. I would like to see it against the law to make laws that are unconstitutional, or at the very least, have the bill sponsor have to incur the costs when it doesn't fly.
justone you are irrational.
JonRoss,
What an intelligent, thoughtful, substance-filled post...said no one ever.
Mr. West --
I would suggest you change your question about Obama's susceptibility to influence to read, "...known pastors and self-admitted active terrorists..."
Let us not forget his close and continuing relationship with at least two active leaders -- and still unrepentant members -- of Weather Underground, a group known for using their bomb-making skills [and lack thereof. Oopsie!] to destroy public buildings and the people in them...the Pentagon, for instance.
Easy -- You know little of politicians, tyrants, and their ilk. When faced with defeat [such as a lost election] while armed with dictatorial powers [like this one now has], they will use it to save their dictatorship. All of them...I include FDR/HST, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, in that statement as well as any in the Middle East.
To pretend different is to have no concept of human nature at its worst.
You blindly trust in the altruist nature of man -- something that doesn't exist. This President's goal is the total subjugation of America to his will, nothing less. Examine what he has done.
In light of your posting above, it is obvious you have either not read the E.O. in question, you choose to ignore its import, or you simply cannot comprehend the extensive powers now held by one man.
Absolutely everything and everyone in this country will be under his personal command and control, should he choose to take it...and he will if thwarted.
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