published Wednesday, February 1st, 2012

The Florida Primary

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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There will be plenty of voting against in the fall, voting against Obama.

February 1, 2012 at 12:28 a.m.
betamax said...

THIS IS WRONG, AMERICANS DONT VOTE AGAINST ANYBODY, THATS THE AGENDA OF THE LEFT. CLAY SHOULD LEAVE TOWN BECAUSE HE HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN MINE.

Don't worry, BRP, I gotcha covered, bro.

February 1, 2012 at 12:31 a.m.

Everyone of those who voted in Florida yesterday all had one thing in common though, they all are voting against Obama in the November, I'd say that's pretty darn good motivation.

Still waiting for one good reason to vote for Obama in November. Still waiting for someone to convince me this country NEEDS to have Obama in office for 4 more years.

The best that can be said about Obama at this point is that he "inherited" a tough situation and made it much, much worse. He seems really good at collecting money from wealthy donors and rubbing elbows with celebrities, though. Maybe he'd make one heckuva lobbyist?

February 1, 2012 at 3:10 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

Good Point well made, Clay.

February 1, 2012 at 5:31 a.m.
WendyLohr said...

Seriously, who not change the laws so voters can vote against a candidate as well as for? Subtract the against votes from the for votes. In November, people could vote against our failed President without their votes affirming that they think much of the alternatives.

February 1, 2012 at 5:40 a.m.
EaTn said...

The best accomplished of Gingrich has been to create fuel for Obama and the dem pacs to use against Romney this fall. His incendiary rants will save the left lots of production money--all they will have to do is play Gingrich reruns.

February 1, 2012 at 6:33 a.m.
sandyonsignal said...

I've yet to encounter any one enthusiastic about Mitt. On the other hand, Newt has many passionate followers and is a man of "Big Ideas". Wouldn't the GOP voters rather have someone with creativity and genius ideas? A man to lead us into a new direction: just like our Founding Fathers. Newt is a man with great vision, who will see poor kids all have jobs in the school systems, bases on the moon and open marriages instead of divorces. What's not to love? Newt's brilliant and epic ideas will take this country in a new direction. Something, we have not seen in our 236 years.

What does Mitt offer? Boredom and routine. We are already in a mess, how is he going to change anything with the same old, same old?

February 1, 2012 at 6:40 a.m.
sandyonsignal said...

Just saw these stats by David Jarman: 1.656,000 million Republicans voted yesterday out of Florida's 4.1 million registered Republicans. In 2008, 1,949,498 voted in the GOP primary. There's a lack of enthusiasm, alright.

February 1, 2012 at 7 a.m.
rolando said...

The Obama, that's who.

February 1, 2012 at 7 a.m.
LibDem said...

The economy appears to be improving, albeit painfully slowly. We seem to be reducing our military commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don't see the average Republican voting against President Obama without consideration of the qualifications of his opponent.

I can see Mr. Romney being presidential. I've never been quite able to picture either Mr. Gingrich or Senator McCain in this roll though this may be my bias as a Democrat. My fear is that this will be the nastiest campaign we've ever witnessed and the winner will be simply the surviving victim.

February 1, 2012 at 7:50 a.m.
hambone said...

Sandy, could it be that some of the republicans don't have photo ID yet?

February 1, 2012 at 8:14 a.m.
WHS1970 said...

Lets see now, the Repubatards have to choose between a hypocrite and a cult follower. I don't think either candidate throws a scare into anyone, especially PRESIDENT OBAMA.

February 1, 2012 at 8:18 a.m.
MTJohn said...

betamax said...

THIS IS WRONG, AMERICANS DONT VOTE AGAINST ANYBODY, THATS THE AGENDA OF THE LEFT.

Really?? Apparently you didn't see the post that immediately preceded yours. And then, read the three immediately following yours.

February 1, 2012 at 8:19 a.m.
novadust said...

clearly (almost) everyone here agrees with blondebutnotdumb that "The best that can be said about Obama at this point is that he 'inherited' a tough situation and made it much, much worse." and here's proof: http://phobizone.blogspot.com/2012/02/blog-post.html

February 1, 2012 at 8:47 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

BlondeButNotDumb asked: "Still waiting for one good reason to vote for Obama in November."

Because you're not dumb.

February 1, 2012 at 8:57 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Remember, this is Florida, the only state in the union unable to figure out a ballot. I'm sure she voted for Osama. I mean Obama

February 1, 2012 at 9:24 a.m.
sandyonsignal said...

Hambone, that's a first! Never heard of a disenfranchised Republican voter.

February 1, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.

blondebutnotdumb, everyone? No, actually that won't be the case. I know several people in Florida, who will not pick Romney or Gingrich on their ballot. They voted in this primary for somebody else. Even if it were, Florida had 4.28 million votes for Obama last election, over McCain's 4.04 million. If their turnout drops by as much as the Republican Primary total did, then that's going to be an even bigger loss. Over half a million.

But keep trying to get somebody to waste time persuading you. Somebody who has made their mind up, like you, isn't worth the effort. Do you think we don't recognize your mindless fanaticism?

Even if Obama's opponents were revealed to be aliens from space out to subjugate humanity you'd still not vote for them over him.

February 1, 2012 at 9:30 a.m.
chet123 said...

Hey Rolando....President Obama to you my cry-baby friend whineeeee!

February 1, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.
chet123 said...

Hey you Republican....this is because they dont give you a choice....the "republican establishment" is running this show....ha ha ha ha....they have coronated ROMNEY.....Where the tea party ha ha ha ha....florida republicans showed you whose the Boss....the cubans ha ha ha ha...super pack destroyed gingrich LOL LOL lOL the rich and greedy own you Party.....

February 1, 2012 at 9:45 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Speaking of Mitt Romney and the Republican primaries, Mark Kleiman at the Reality-Based Community poses a very good question today:

In Nineteen Eighty-Four, Orwell gives his totalitarian Party three nonsense slogans: “War is Peace,” “Freedom is Slavery,” and “Ignorance is Strength.”

How did he miss “Corporations are People”?

February 1, 2012 at 9:57 a.m.
chet123 said...

media had enough nerve to announce FOX as #1 in viewers.....When you have the rich and greedy bank rolling FOX in all 50 states even where there are few fox viewer like washington DC....they should have #1 viewership....

Even here in the Chattanooga area...notice how you cant pick-up MSNBC on CHARTER CABLE????(North-west and north-east Georgia area..ie Dalton,Ringgold ect) Hmmm i wander why...oh i know!!!!..to keep these people uninformed..to keep them in the dark....maybe the money people only want one side of the story told...Hmmmm is this propaganda? Hmmmm? Are the Cable Company in cahoots with the rich and greedy....wander why some cable news are blacked-out....Hmmm?...you can bet FOX is made available wherever you are in the country!!!

Sounds like the cable company dont want to give americans a choice....Do the rich and greedy think America is dumb.....think it wouldnt get notice...Hmmmmm? ha ha ha ha...maybe you are not as clever as you think ha ha ha ha

February 1, 2012 at 9:58 a.m.
hambone said...

The choices are:

**" The Flipper"

"The man in the Moon"

"Saint Rick"

"Texas Grandpa"

Maybe its time for "a man named Jed"

February 1, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.
limric said...

During his victory speech following his decisive win the Florida primary, Presidential hopeful Mitt Robot announced plans to purchase Walt Disney World for an undisclosed amount. Romney said he has always dreamed of owning a part of America, and the deal will show the world, “Just how much I love America.”

Florida Governor Rick (the flashbulb) Scott is excited by the idea. “This will bring much needed economic stimulus to Florida. We also have the Everglades and city of Miami for sale, if anyone is interested.”

Following Mitt Robots victory, the head of the Florida Tea Party, Rolando Tu_quoque, was heard saying to throngs of blue haired activists. “This primary should finally push the family values candidate down the Newt chute.” The sound of cheering was slightly overshadowed by the sound of people tearing open Social Security checks and a blonde (but not dumb) woman hysterically giggling.

Asked to comment on the newest turn of phrase, Gingrich released the following statement: “I am a true historian, Reagan conservative and one of America’s last remaining statesmen. A Newt chute by any other name is still fundamentally a poop chute. I am appalled and see no reason to discuss this further, although I welcome Republican support regardless of marital status”

February 1, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.
jesse said...

hey chet,just because your paranoid don't mean they ain't out to get you!!

February 1, 2012 at 10:20 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

NEGATIVE POSITIVES

Exit polls yesterday showed that 38% of republican voters who showed up at the polls – which was a lower turnout than four years ago – were disappointed in the GOP field of candidates.

Former congressman and Newt supporter Bill McCollum claimed that 99% of the Romney ads were negative smears against Gingrich. As a Florida resident that number seems right. Overall, of the $30 million spent by all candidates in the ten days leading up to the Primary, 92% were reportedly negative.

Gingrich ads claimed that Romney was a liberal. Romney ads claimed Gingrich was not a conservative. While Newt ran a few spots that touted his connection to Reagan and his congressional accomplishments, the campaign by both candidates looked more like a knife fight.

Fasten your seat belts. It’s going to be a bumpy ride to November.

P.S. Another great post Limric!

February 1, 2012 at 10:30 a.m.
rogerdodger said...

hambone any of those choices would be better than the " SALE OUT" who keeps going around the world apologizing for this country

February 1, 2012 at 10:37 a.m.
chet123 said...

Hey republican....for a party that claim Obama is muslim....even when he prove he is christian...have said nothing about mitt romney religion,the mormoms! Sounds like a cult to me!

Was Joseph Smith the narcissistic founder and cult leader that pratice polygamy....having sex with mutiple wives and young girls....the mormom church called this cult leader a prophet ha ha ha....is this the church romney belong to.....well,well,well!!

February 1, 2012 at 10:37 a.m.
chet123 said...

Hey Jesse....because you beleive this republican BS...some of us can think.....Republican also sold people like you on trickle-down economy....afte 30 years of income widening between the middle-class(18per cent) and the 1%(300per cent increase)....how did that work for you Jesse....

But I see you are determine to place the fox in charge over the HEN-HOUSE.....BOY O BOY....what a loser you are Jesse!

February 1, 2012 at 10:47 a.m.
timbo said...

You liberals laugh it up while you can, you are underestimating the absolute loathing people on the right and independents have for Obama.

This time his flaws won't be hidden by the media.

Yea, laugh it up because there will be a lot of people who finally vote against Obama.

Although there is a decent chance to beat Obama, I don't think Romney has the balls to attach Obama. It is about 55-45 Obama will win because the Republicans will nominate another limp candidate.

February 1, 2012 at 11:11 a.m.
chet123 said...

timbo....you are batting 0%....you one of the nuts who said herman cain was the man....I havent stopped laughing about that crazy prediction you made.....ha ha ha

February 1, 2012 at 11:13 a.m.
chet123 said...

what are you right about????NOTHING!!!...You are just haters....no plan....just protecting the rich and greedy.....this country is in a revolution.....get use to it

February 1, 2012 at 11:15 a.m.
jesse said...

hey chet!

i was talkin about the great conspiracy to MAKE you watch FOX NEWS!!they are slowly closin you off so that if you don't watch FOX you don't watch nuttin!see if you can trickle that down!!

February 1, 2012 at 11:18 a.m.
chet123 said...

timbo....you have been wrong on all your predictions....everyone of them....and now you think indepedent going with you and the republican party..ha ha ha....everything about your party stinks.....

the republican supreme court said corporation are people...what a lie!

your republican supreme court created superpack to influence our elections

you claim trickle down economy was good for the middle-class

After 911 the republican lied that iraq was involved in trade centers destruction

republican gave amnesty to immigation

republican pushed noth american trade agreements(sending our job overseas)

i can go on and on and on.......timbo....you have nothing to crow about boy......

February 1, 2012 at 11:26 a.m.
chet123 said...

HEY TIMBO....you trickle this......i keep my friend close...but my enemy closer.....i will alway keep an eye on fix news to see how many lies they can tell in an hour.

republican people dont have control over their own party...the establishment continue to shove weak people down their throat...i though the tea-party would put the party in line...much as i dislike gingrich racist comments....i think he would serve the country better than mitt romney

February 1, 2012 at 11:37 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Hambone said: "Maybe its time for "a man named Jed"

Well, Hambone, I hate to say this, but I’ve come to the sad conclusion that the Republican leadership simply doesn’t share our Founders dream of a Nation with power derived from its people through elections. I guess they figure that since the America public is not warming to the Republican dream of a Nation with power derived from corporate persons, they’ll try peddling the old concept of a Nation with power derived from a hereditary ruler – in this case, King Bush III.

February 1, 2012 at 11:40 a.m.
jesse said...

hey timbo, i think you just caught a stray from chet that was meant for me!

when he gets all excited talkin about fox and trickle down he just kinda goes off the DEEP end!!LOL!

February 1, 2012 at 11:46 a.m.
ldurham said...

Hey this is progress. 2 cartoons in a row that haven't been about freshly deceased people. It takes a big man to apologize for a heartless, poorly-timed jab at a man who hasn't been buried, and his friends. And then there's Clay Bennett.

February 1, 2012 at 11:57 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Limric said: "Mitt Robot announced plans to purchase Walt Disney World for an undisclosed amount. Romney said he has always dreamed of owning a part of America, and the deal will show the world, “Just how much I love America.”

Wow! Thanks for the big scoop, Limric. But I'm wondering if Mitt Robot really bought it to show the world how much he loves us? . . . Afterall, Walt Disney World is the one place where the fairytale dreams of Mitt Robot can come true.

P.S. Wonder if Newt will change his mind and agree to become a classic attraction?

February 1, 2012 at 12:14 p.m.
jesse said...

hey idurham!

when clay bennett does a cartoon on hisownself showing remorse for the Moon toon? you will see WHITE CROWS flyin in FLOCKS!!!

you got to man up for that and he ain't got got in him!

February 1, 2012 at 12:39 p.m.

mountainlaurel, those words are truer than you think, because Walt Disney World? It's a corporate-owned taxing district. See the Reedy Creek Improvement District.

February 1, 2012 at 12:52 p.m.
nurseforjustice said...

Hey Blondie, I don't see anyone really taking you up on your request. All I see is them putting you down. I hate name calling.

But it appears that we may not have to worry about Obama this time if all these lawsuits go the way they should. There are several states that have joined Georgia in an attempt to keep him off the ballot. That would be awesome, wouldn't it?

February 1, 2012 at 1:20 p.m.
alprova said...

N4J wrote: "Hey Blondie, I don't see anyone really taking you up on your request. All I see is them putting you down. I hate name calling."

It's a complete waste of time to try to convince someone who will never change their mind.

"But it appears that we may not have to worry about Obama this time if all these lawsuits go the way they should. There are several states that have joined Georgia in an attempt to keep him off the ballot. That would be awesome, wouldn't it?"

It'll never happen.

February 1, 2012 at 1:47 p.m.

The more conservatives going with the birther strategy, the more I think it must be some false flag op.

They can't REALLY be that dense, can they?

Name one state that has actually decided to keep Obama off the ballot. You can't find it. Not even Georgia. Notice how the state of Georgia was not a party to Orly Taitz's latest shenanigans? It's just a judge letting her put on some court-room antics. Perhaps he's planning a motion to commit her to some psychiatric institution.

February 1, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Happywithnewbulbs said: "The more conservatives going with the birther strategy, the more I think it must be some false flag op. They can't REALLY be that dense, can they?"

No, I think it’s just people making stuff up, HWNB. Interestingly, I just read an article by John Nichols about a quote that Romney appears to have made up for his Florida speech:

“Readers of Tom Paine's The American Crisis will have a hard time finding the line referenced by Mitt Romney in his Florida victory speech: "Lead, follow, or get out of the way." . . A very hard time. . .

. . . Anyone familiar with Paine's canon knows that the greatest of the founding fathers did not peddle empty platitudes of this sort. . .

. . . Of course, it should not be all that shocking that the candidate who has never been able to shake the trappings of aristocracy that so offended Paine would neither known nor understand the author of American revolution.

If Toryism has a contemporary face, it is that of Mitt Romney.
 


Everything about this millionaire son of privilege says he would have chosen the security of King George III and the British Empire over a dangerous alliance with the radicals who rejected the divine right of kings and declared "all men are created equal."

But even if Romney had strayed into the revolutionary camp, it is a safe bet that he -- like the effete John Adams -- would have been ill at ease with real revolutionaries like Tom Paine. Unlike the "sunshine patriots" that he decried in The American Crisis, Paine was not satisfied with the casual reordering of society.

And that reordering would not have favored vulture capitalists.

It was Paine who argued, in his last great pamphlet, Agrarian Justice, that taxation of the rich with an eye toward redistributing wealth should be seen as "an act of national justice."

"Separate an individual from society, and give him an island or a continent to possess, and he cannot acquire personal property. He cannot be rich. So inseparably are the means connected with the end, in all cases, that where the former do not exist the latter cannot be obtained," explained Paine. "All accumulation, therefore, of personal property, beyond what a man's own hands produce, is derived to him by living in society; and he owes on every principle of justice, of gratitude, and of civilization, a part of that accumulation back again to society from whence the whole came."

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/john-nichols

February 1, 2012 at 2:24 p.m.
MTJohn said...

mountainlaurel said...In Nineteen Eighty-Four, Orwell gives his totalitarian Party three nonsense slogans: “War is Peace,” “Freedom is Slavery,” and “Ignorance is Strength.”

How did he miss “Corporations are People”?

MountainLaurel - Orwell might not have used that phrase but he certainly endowed the leaders of the party with that mentality. Wasn't there something in the storyline to the effect that Inner Party's real enemies were neither Eurasia nor Eastasia but the citizen's of Oceania. You get to the same result when corporations are people

February 1, 2012 at 3:02 p.m.
nurseforjustice said...

Hey Al, nice to talk to you again. Hope you are doing ok healthwise. I also hope you are still losing weight. I remember you saying at one time you had lost quite a bit.

Well, I agree with you that it is almost useless to try to sway peoples minds once their minds have been made up. That is one reason I have not posted on here in a while. Seems like the same old stuff rolling around all the time. But that is the job of the politicians, isn't it? To change peoples minds? To convince others that they are the best choice?

I guess we will have to see if it will happen. From what I read the case seems fairly solid, especially since there was no defense.

HWNB, unless I am mistaken, there has been no decision from the judge in Georgia yet. Last I heard he will give a decision on 2/5/12. IT COULD HAPPEN, and could be the start of something big.

February 1, 2012 at 3:11 p.m.

nfj: You said state, referring to Georgia, and suggested that several others would join it. But nobody from the actual government of Georgia is involved in the suit in question. Did you not know that? Were you thinking that the government of Georgia was involved, as opposed to some random people off the street with some wacky ideas?

You can keep thinking it'll mean something, but like I said, I think the Judge is just giving Orly Taitz a chance to show how crazy she is.

mountainlaurel, they are making a lot of stuff up, and you can tell by their spin on things, whatever it is, they try to convert it into something positive, or at least negative for others.

It's like the guy who is stuck in a pit, and decides to try to reach China.

I'm all for optimism, but there's got to be a point where you realize you're digging yourself in deeper.

February 1, 2012 at 3:33 p.m.
nurseforjustice said...

HWNB, Here is what I read that leads me to believe that the government of Ga is involved. Pay close attention to the line regarding the Secretary of the State of Ga.

"The Judge, Judge Malihi, said that he would release a formal “Default” judgment on Feb.5th; however the judgment would be in favor of the complainants as no defense was presented. This judgment will mean that the Judge will recommend that President Obama cannot appear on a ballot list, in the State of Georgia. Which would mean that Obama, would not receive any popular votes or electoral seats, from that State. The Secretary of State for Georgia has already stated that he would comply with any ruling that the Judge made."

Sounds very involved to me. But I am just a nurse, not a legal eagle. I just think it is very interesting. Could be history in the making.

February 1, 2012 at 3:41 p.m.

nfj: And yet you didn't provide a source for that.

You can be impressed, but you know who was impressive? P. T. Barnum. A show can be nothing but smoke and mirrors.

February 1, 2012 at 4:20 p.m.

Just saw Gallup's state by state breakdown looking toward November, based on state polls. It looks really, really bad for Obama.

February 1, 2012 at 4:38 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

MTJohn said: “Orwell might not have used that phrase but he certainly endowed the leaders of the party with that mentality. Wasn't there something in the storyline to the effect that Inner Party's real enemies were neither Eurasia nor Eastasia but the citizen's of Oceania.

Indeed, I think it actually says somewhere in Goldstein's The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism that the primary purpose of the conflicts with Eurasia and Eastasia was to use up resources and keep Oceania’s population in line.

MtJohn said: “You get to the same result when corporations are people.”

Yes, without a doubt, MTJohn. I find it particulary unsettling that corporate funded right wing organizations like ALEC (American Legislaion Exchange Council) are now essentially ghostwriting many of our laws, including some in the State of Tennessee:

HB 1030/Public Chapter No. 492 (signed into law 6/16/11) "The Virtual Public Schools Act" (Sponsor: Rep. Harry Brooks)[1][2][3] similar to ALEC model "Virtual Public Schools Act"[4][5]

SB 16 (enacted 6/3/11) "Voter ID Act."[6] Compare to ALEC's "Voter ID Act."[7][8]

http://alecexposed.org/wiki/Tennessee

February 1, 2012 at 5:07 p.m.
sandyonsignal said...

ALEC is all over the country. The Republicans are tools for them. Here's a story from lFlorida: Republican submits anti-corporate tax bill without removing ALEC Mission Statement .

Indeed, Mountain Laurel, this is troubling. We see the same thing in Tennessee, eventually one will leave the ALEC mission statement up on their bill, too.

February 1, 2012 at 5:26 p.m.
novadust said...

wow! i wish the energy on this thread could be transplanted to RWNJ forums. why don't some of you check out human events, for instance? readers that post there do nothing but agree with every mindless obama-hating writer that spins away any semblance of truth.

February 1, 2012 at 5:31 p.m.

bbnd: Really, it looks bad when he's way over Gingrich and when his own campaign hasn't even gotten into swing and he's dead-even with Romney-bot?

Yeah, what standards of looking bad are you talking about?

February 1, 2012 at 5:35 p.m.
ArnoldZiffel said...

Quite funny how you Democrats on here are experts on how enthusiastic we Republicans are. Just wait until November. You don't know what you're talking about.

Obama ain't nothin' but greedy power broker. Funny how you all thought he was something special. Suckers.

February 1, 2012 at 5:41 p.m.
potcat said...

Tu _lu decided to show up,i'm surprised with the beat down he took last night.

Thanks everybody, and Ikeithlu......

February 1, 2012 at 5:50 p.m.
miraweb said...

And 24 hours later . . . . . . Mitt shoots himself in the foot by not knowing -- when -- to -- stop -- talking.

It's no secret that Mitt really knows nothing about people outside his own, tight circle.

However, a successful life in politics means you have to be able to at least pretend.

February 1, 2012 at 5:54 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

SandyOnSignal said: “ALEC is all over the country. ALEC is all over the country. The Republicans are tools for them. Here's a story from Florida: Republican submits anti-corporate tax bill without removing ALEC Mission Statement . “

Thanks for the link, Sandy. I had not heard about this latest Republican lawmaker's “OOPS.” Without a doubt, some of these corporations are sneaky to say the least:

“By using ALEC to pursue their agenda, they are able to hide their fingerprints, avoid lobbying disclosure, and evade the kind of increased scrutiny that comes when citizens know it’s actually corporations that drafted some of their most important laws. Recent ALEC bills have rolled back voting rights, reduced environmental protections and stripped away collective bargaining rights for workers around the country.”

http://www.commonblog.com/2012/01/31/alec-exposed-for-24-hours/

February 1, 2012 at 7:04 p.m.
MTJohn said...

mountainlaurel said...Indeed, I think it actually says somewhere in Goldstein's The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism that the primary purpose of the conflicts with Eurasia and Eastasia was to use up resources and keep Oceania’s population in line.

I find it particulary unsettling that corporate funded right wing organizations like ALEC (American Legislaion Exchange Council) are now essentially ghostwriting many of our laws,

I find it even more unsettling that not only has the "Upper Party" succeeded in keeping the "Lower Party" and the "Proles" in line, they have managed to divide the "Lower Party" and the "Proles". Thus, instead of uniting to defend ourselves from the atrocities of the oligarchy, half of "us" believe the many talking heads of Big Brother and staunchly defend him by blaming the other half for the atrocities.

February 1, 2012 at 7:58 p.m.

Gingcringe could feasibly throw another wrench in Rombama’s establishment media machine on Super-Tuesday. More than likely, though, the GOP will follow its tradition of nominating (with the media’s enthusiastic help) its weakest candidate, Rombama. The GOP's love affair with also-rans never ceases to befuddle me.

Also unsurprisingly, the media will turn on Rombama in the general election and instead support his clone (er, opponent) Rombama. Equally inept on foreign policy as Governor Rombama, Intern Rombama will continue taking orders from the Pentagon so he can focus his attention on filing papers and tinkering with (aka ruining) the economy.

The media’s drooling coronation of Rombama after his virtual tie in Iowa (the nation’s first caucus), and again after his second primary win in Florida this week is comical. Two states. Yep. He has everything sown up. No need to even vote in the primary.

February 1, 2012 at 8:22 p.m.
acerigger said...

MTJohn said... "I find it even more unsettling that not only has the "Upper Party" succeeded in keeping the "Lower Party" and the "Proles" in line, they have managed to divide the "Lower Party" and the "Proles". Thus, instead of uniting to defend ourselves from the atrocities of the oligarchy, half of "us" believe the many talking heads of Big Brother and staunchly defend him by blaming the other half for the atrocities."

True john,but there are signs that the two are beginning to figure it out.

February 1, 2012 at 8:34 p.m.
dude_abides said...

tu_quoque said... "Its good to see that you have identified someone you can support but be careful because it appears that you may be developing a man-crush on him."

It's difficult to relate to the term "man-crush", because I've never experienced that phenomenon. Could you describe what it's like? Do you feel a distinctly non-gay attraction to another man, or is it like a non-sexual but full bore gay attraction? In your history do you remember, like, a relationship with a man that was, say, heterosexual from the waist up? I am confused academically. It sounds dangerous, like something that could give you a Brokeback.

February 1, 2012 at 8:38 p.m.
dude_abides said...

limric, I found your communique irreverent and clever, the "feel good hit of the day."

February 1, 2012 at 8:51 p.m.

acerigger: The Republicans complaints about class warfare are one of their saddingly effective techniques of winning their class war.

February 1, 2012 at 10:17 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Tu_quoque said: “No the correct term is "Unions, NGO's, and Corporations are People" and you forgot Hopey-Changey."

Sure, sure, Tu_quoque. This is why the House Republicans objected to the filming of a public hearing discussing hydraulic fracturing – a subject that is of critical interest to we the people, including people in the State of Tennessee:

“Josh Fox, director of the Academy Award-nominated documentary "Gasland" was taken into custody by Capitol Hill police this morning, along with his crew, after Republicans objected to their presence, according to Democratic sources present at the hearing. The meeting of the House Subcommittee on Energy and Environment had been taking place in room 2318 of the Rayburn building. . .

"Gasland" received strong critical acclaim and takes a critical eye toward the practice of hydraulic fracturing, or "fracking," a process in which several tons of highly pressurized water and chemicals are injected into the ground, allowing valuable natural gas to escape. The practice is decried by ecological experts for destroying ecosystems and polluting groundwater. The energy industry keeps the actual content of fracking chemicals secret.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/01/house-republicans-order-j_n_1246971.html

February 1, 2012 at 10:38 p.m.

That would be called the Streisand effect.

Yet people fall for it all the time.

February 1, 2012 at 11:15 p.m.
carlB said...

blondebutnotdumb said... Just saw Gallup's state by state breakdown looking toward November, based on state polls. It looks really, really bad for Obama. February 1, 2012 at 4:38 p.m.


Reply: blondebutnotdumb, again your true biased attitude appears to keep popping up. It's all about you and other people like you who are being insulted by somebody who is not "cow tailing" from the actions of the "bullies" who appear to forget that the conditions have changed over the years. Some times it is hard to as the saying goes. "It is hard to keep a good person down" President Obama is able and willing to take care of himself and his family regardless of how the voters decide to vote in the November 2012 elections. It is the people with the judgment such as your's who are not concerned with what happens to this Republic and the people. If you appear to truly want to believe the untrue "talking points" being said against President Obama by his "enemies," then you most certainly would have wanted McCain and Palin elected therefore thinking, in your judgment that they would instantly solve all of the unfinished crisis conditions/situations left from the last administration. I do not care if you never/ever get the answer to your "little projection" against President Obama. That is your problem not mine. Just do not get the pleasure of feeling that you have turned anyone against voting for President Obama.

February 2, 2012 at 12:22 a.m.
MTJohn said...

acerigger said...

MTJohn said... "I find it even more unsettling that not only has the "Upper Party" succeeded in keeping the "Lower Party" and the "Proles" in line, they have managed to divide the "Lower Party" and the "Proles". Thus, instead of uniting to defend ourselves from the atrocities of the oligarchy, half of "us" believe the many talking heads of Big Brother and staunchly defend him by blaming the other half for the atrocities."

True john,but there are signs that the two are beginning to figure it out.

Certainly both the Tea Party and the Occupy movement folks understand that the system is not working for them. But, I'm not convinced that the two will unite in their struggle against the "inner party".

February 2, 2012 at 7:07 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Tu_quoque siad: "I don't really see how your post relates to my statement, you posted, except to enter some off topic subject."

But your original post was in response to a question that Mark Kleiman had posed, which was referencing George Orwell’s book, Nineteen Eighty-Four, Tu_quoque.

Surely, you haven’t forgotten the story line behind Orwell’s book? It’s a book about an oppressive totalitarian world where others are ruled, controlled, and constantly monitored by an elite self-serving ruling minority – with the help of a “Thought Police” and an “Outer” Political Party who have been heavily indoctrinated by Orwell's small ruling elite.

Anyway, I posted the article about the terrible incident involving the House Republicans – and their version of "Thought Police" so to speak - because their conduct reminded me of the oppressive totalitarian world that is described in Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four. A world where citizens who question the status quo are carried away by the Inner Party’s "Thought Police" – the oppressive world that Mark Kleiman is referencing when he asks:

"In Nineteen Eighty-Four, Orwell gives his totalitarian Party three nonsense slogans: “War is Peace,” “Freedom is Slavery,” and “Ignorance is Strength.”

How did he miss “Corporations are People”?

February 2, 2012 at 12:17 p.m.
MTJohn said...

MountainLaurel - I don't think there is a Classic Comics version of Nineteen Eighty-Four.

February 2, 2012 at 7:08 p.m.

There's at least 3 movies.

February 3, 2012 at 12:41 a.m.
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