published Tuesday, February 21st, 2012

5 at 10: Major league baseball, Michael Jordan and The Masters

OK, if you were stranded on a deserted island and had one actor's entire DVD catalog at your disposal, who is it? Don't answer too quickly. We're going to explore this — and work it into a theme show. We know you're excited. Today, let's explore a few of the gems from Robert Duvall.

From the "Talk Too Much studios," let's go.



Love the smell of baseball in the morning...

It smells like victory. Duvall was not the star of "Apocalypse Now" but he was a scene stealer as Lt. Colonel Bill Kilgore — his above line and "Charlie don't surf" are two of the most quoted from that movie.

That said, there's something comforting about knowing the Boys of Summer are starting to get loose in Florida and Arizona. The TFP even had a story on Braves closer Craig Kimbrel in today's Sports section (Craig Kimbrel eager to get past last outing). Kimbrel is the anchor of baseball's best bullpen. How they perform — and how well they are managed this summer by Braves skipper Fredi Gonzalez — will be an interesting and crucial storyline for the Braves, who did not make any moves in the offseason.

Kimbrel and set-up man Johnny Venters each pitched in roughly half the Braves' games last season (Kimbrel had 79 appearances, Venters had 85) and there were obvious signs of fatigue in the Braves' September collapse. Will they be stronger? Will Gonzalez be smarter? Can the Braves, who missed the wildcard by a game after losing 18 of their last 27, be one game better?

We'll have seven-plus months to figure it out. You can either surf, or you can fight... or we can all play ball.

(And while we're here, we'd be remiss not to mention Manny Ramirez returning to baseball on the cheap with the Oakland A's. Granted he'll have to sit the first 50 games for not passing a drug test, but welcome back to the best right-handed hitter we've ever seen. Period, and yes, that includes Albert Pujols. In Manny's prime, dude was a hitting savant, and how many other athletes can say they were the fountain of inspiration for one of the generation's catch phrases. Think about it — how many people say, "It is what it is," and now ask yourself if that's not a direct descendent of "Manny being Manny.")



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    Chicago Bulls’ Michael Jordan dunks the ball during the Slam-Dunk championship in Chicago on Saturday, Feb. 6, 1988. (AP Photo/John Swart)

No compliments consigliere, Portland edition

"Then they come after us. Right now we have the unions and we have the gambling and those are the best things to have. But narcotics is a thing of the future. If we don’t get a piece of that action we risk everything we have. Not now, but ten years from now."

Duvall gets a spot on the "all-time catalog" list in large part because he's in Godfather and Godfather II — and bonus points for not being in Godfather III. The above quote was from Corleone family consigliere Tom Hagen discussing the future.

And while the stakes are different, looking into the future is as important as looking at the present when it comes to the draft.

Hey, the 5-at-10 loves the draft, and you know this.

And while we have the most love for the NFL draft, we have some passion for the NBA draft, too.

Which leads us to what appears to be a very dubious honor. Of the five biggest draft busts in NBA and NFL history, the Portland Trailblazers look to have No. 1 and a fast-rising No. 5 on the list.

Here are the five biggest draft misjudgements:

1) Portland taking Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan. Yes, Portland had Clyde Drexler and felt like it didn't need another shooting guard. That would be like some one saying, "Hey, we're already rich, we don't need another couple hundred million."

2) A four-team tie — and a for sure three-team tie if we give the Bills a pass — in 1983 for the teams that took a quarterback after John Elway and before Dan Marino. Kansas City took Todd Blackledge No. 7, Buffalo took Jim Kelly No. 14 (we can accept this, but still), New England took Tony Eason No. 15, the Jets took Ken O'Brien No. 24 before Marino went 27th to Miami.

3) Oakland drafting Jamarcus "Purple Drank" Russell No. 1 overall. Sorry, it's just that bad. And to make matters worse, this draft was loaded in talent, with arguably this generation's best wide receiver (Calvin Johnson to Detroit at No. 2), left tackle (Joe Thomas to Cleveland at No. 3), running back (Adrian Peterson to Minnesota at No. 7), linebacker (Patrick Willis to San Francisco at No. 11) and cornerback (Darrelle Revis to the New York Jets at No. 14).

4) The Detroit Pistons taking Darko Milicic No. 2 overall in 2003. And this was when the Pistons were pretty strong — Billups, Prince, Rip Hamilton, Ben Wallace, et al. — and they lucked into a lottery pick and picked Milicic over a couple of guys you may have heard of: Carmelo Anthony went No. 3, Chris Bosh went No. 4, and Dwyane Wade went No. 5. Ouch-standing.

5) Portland drafted Greg Oden No. 1 overall in 2007 ahead of Kevin Durant. Oden will miss the rest of the season after learning he will need another microfracture surgery — his fifth knee surgery in his career. Oden has played exactly 82 games in his injury-riddled career; Durant is headed to be a three-time scoring champion. Yes, Portland has passed on the best scorers of the last two generations to draft injury-prone centers.



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    Tony Stewart crosses the finish line to win the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series race at Richmond International Raceway in Martinsville, Va., Sunday Oct. 30, 2011. (AP Photo/Jarred C. Tilton, Pool)

Rubbin' is... well you know

You had to know that Duvall's turn as Harry Hogg, Cole Trickle's cantankerous crew chief in "Days of Thunder," was going to make the cut this morning. Now this is not to say this was one of Duvall's best roles — far from it, of course — but "Days of Thunder" is the NASCAR version of "Road House" or even "Water World."

And with that, here's our contest for Sunday's Daytona 500. We're calling this the "Ricky Bobby — if you're not winning you're losing" Challenge. Send us who you think will win the Daytona 500 and who you think will finish last. Here's how we'll score it: five points for the winner and two points for last place.

As a tie-breaker send us the driver you think will be leading on Lap No. 46. Why Lap No. 46 you ask? Because that's the number of Cole Trickle's City Chevrolet Chevrolet.

And remember, rubbin' is racing.



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    This July 30, 2011 file photo shows St. Louis Cardinals first baseman Albert Pujols (5) following through on a solo home run as Chicago Cubs catcher Geovany Soto watches in the first inning of a baseball game, in St. Louis. A person familiar with the negotiations says that three-time NL MVP Albert Pujols has agreed to a 10-year contract with the Los Angeles Angels. The person spoke on condition of anonymity Thursday, Dec. 8, 2011, because the deal had not been announced. (AP Photo/Tom Gannam, File)
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

This and that (with a shout out to our favorite Duvall movies not already mentioned)

— Sling Blade: Duvall was Carl's father in this movie, a small cameo that was awesome. In someways, not unlike a closer in baseball. The single most dominant relief pitcher ever — Mariano Rivera — has made a decision about whether 2012 will be his final season. Of course, the 42-year-old Yankees closer isn't telling anyone, but he says he knows. Whatever that means.

— The Paper: The last big fight that could make a lot of paper for everyone is still in the dancing stage. Manny Pacquiao is in Vegas right now giving testimony in a defamation of character lawsuit he filed against Floyd Mayweather. He took time to talk with Yahoo Sports boxing guru Kevin Iole and Manny said, “[Mayweather] talks, he says all this, but you know what: He doesn’t want the fight,” Pacquiao firmly told Yahoo! Sports in an exclusive interview. “I want the fight. I’m the one who has wanted this fight all along.” Manny says he'll split the purse 50-50 because he wants the fight so bad. Here's what we want: We want those two yahoos to shut their traps and fight. Period. It can be at Camp Jordan or Camp David, just get in the ring and go. (And by doing so, possibly save boxing.) It's your move Floyd.

— The Natural: Albert Pujols showed up at camp with the Angels. That is all, and somewhere Roy Hobbs nods.

— The Great Santini: Kobe Bryant called out Lakers management to support teammate Pau Gasol. It was the move of a leader — something that Kobe has not always been confused with — and here's saying this will jumpstart an impressive Lakers run. (Side note: The Great Santini was an awesome movie and an even awesomer book... and yes, we just made up awesomer. Deal with it. In fact, we think that word is awesomest. Ha.)

— True Grit: Buster Posey appears to be on track to return from the horrific injuries he suffered in a home-plate collision last year. And that's good news. Posey has been instructed by the Giants to stop blocking the plate, and considering what he brings offensively, that's good strategy. (But the hand-wringing about forcing players to slide and blah, blah, blah was gross.)

— MASH: Duvall was the original outsider known as Frank Burns, and while returning from injury left Carmelo Anthony as an outsider in the New York Knicks drama known as Linsanity, Anthony was hardly the problem in the Knicks' loss to the New Jersey Nets last night. Sure, Anthony had six turnovers, but Jeremy Lin's counterpart — Deron Williams — poured in 38 points in the 100-92 decision.



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    Former Master's champion Angel Cabrera, left, of Argentina helps Phil Mickelson put on his Masters jacket after his win at the 2010 Masters golf tournament in Augusta, Ga., Sunday, April 11, 2010. (AP Photo/Chris O'Meara)

Today's question

Feel free to toss out who you think has the best Deserted Island catalog, but we'll stay with the theme.

And today's question, in honor of our favorite role of Duvall's career — Augustus McCrae — in our favorite western ever — "Lonesome Dove."

If you have not seen "Lonesome Dove" tell the spouse that you need six-plus hours this weekend and give it a whirl. You'll thank us for the suggestion.

And while Gus McCrae and Captain Woodrow Call — two famous Texas Rangers — are the main dudes in that story, there are a slew of great characters throughout. In some ways, it's like professional golf — there are two central characters right now — Tiger and Phil Mickelson — and a host of other interesting names and storylines heading into the greatest golf tournament in the world.

We asked this in the comments yesterday, but now it's official. There's no doubt Lefty will be on a lot of Masters pick sheets. We love the draft (you may have heard this), and if we all agree that Lefty is the Andrew Luck of the Masters' pool right now, who is the No. 2 pick? (It's probably Tiger, right?)

Discuss.

about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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chas9 said...

Duvall's the best ever. And what a long list of work, mostly excellent. Lots of The 5@10 Show's audience came in too late to realize he was in the classic, classy To Kill a Mockingbird. And The Apostle is underrated. And you are correct, sir. Lonesome Dove is the best Western ever. I won't have anybody taking a poke at it.

Reports say UK will replace Tee Martin with another coach with a strong Tennessee history, having coached some of The Vols' best-ever receivers. Was the young Jay an Auburn fan when QB Pat Washington paired with Big Bo to produce some exciting football in the loveliest village on the plains? And is it a good hire?

February 21, 2012 at 10:36 a.m.
sportsfan said...

With the exception of "Bridges of Madison County" which should be deleted from the DVD collection, definitely put me down for Clint Eastwood. "Do you feel lucky"-Dirty Harry, "We all got it coming, kid"- William Muny, and "Now remember, things look bad and it looks like you're not going to make it, then you gotta get mean" -Josey Wales are all classic lines with the abiltiy to make a veiled sports reference.

February 21, 2012 at 11:45 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

I still love Robert Duvall as Boo Radley in To Kill A Mockingbird.

But I digress. The Great Santini was originally released under the name The Ace. Ah, the great Bull Meachem. One of the first movies to be filmed in the Beaufort area, ahead of The Big Chill by a few years.

I could go Clint (the spaghetti westerns, the Dirty Harry franchise plus two great roles in Kelly's Heroes and Where Eagles Dare, the latter alongside Richard Burton, along with Unforgiven) and maybe even Cary Grant (Father Goose, North by Northwest, Operation Petticoat).

February 21, 2012 at 11:45 a.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

Bo kind of converted us into AU fans — well that and a wealth of UGA and Alabama fans in the neighborhood and the young 5-at-10's desire to be a contrarian.

We believe Pat Washington would be a strong addition to just about any staff.

And yes, The Apostle is underrated — in fact we grew up with the actor — Walton Goggins — who turned Duvall in in The Apostle.

Sportsfan —

Welcome to the show, and Clint is a money, choice too.

And after Lonesome Dove, you just referenced our No. 2 and No. 3 westerns.

No. 2 — The Outlaw Josey Wales, and how many great quotes are there from that one?

JW: "Are you a bounty hunter?"

BH: "A man's got to do something for a living these days."

JW: "Dying ain't much of a living, boy."

———

JW: "Worms gotta eat, same as buzzards."

———

No. 3 western is Unforgiven

Little Bill Daggett: Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a bitch! You just shot an unarmed man!

Will Munny: Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend.

———

WM — "Deserve's got nothing to do with it."

———

WM — That's right. I've killed women and children. I've killed just about everything that walks or crawled at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill, for what you did to Ned.

Great stuff right there, and we haven't even discussed "Paint your Wagon" or any of the "Any which way but loose" stuff ("Right turn Clyde").

— 5-at-10

February 21, 2012 at 11:58 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Spy —

We thought this topic may draw you out.

It was either this or, which Georgia Southern coach was better Erk or BVG?

Discuss.

— 5-at-10

February 21, 2012 at noon
chas9 said...

Probably not a good enough question for Friday's bag, but who has more artful hair, Trump or channel 12's Rick Nyman?

February 21, 2012 at 12:14 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

You one funny man, he who talks too much. Have you SEEN BVG's new 'do? Dude, that so has to be a rug.

Hey, my Celtics have had a checkered draft history. All starting right around the star-crossed selection of Len Bias. The BIspy will now get misty-eyed and heartbroken again. All these years later, and that still hurts. He was going to be great. Not just good. Great.

I still consider John Wayne's "The Searchers" the best Western of all time. And his catalog - "Red River," the aforementioned "True Grit," "Sands of Iwo Jima," "In Harm's Way," "The Longest Day," "She Wore A Yellow Ribbon," "The Horse Soldiers," "Fort Apache," "The Quiet Man" ... yeah, it ain't bad.

February 21, 2012 at 12:16 p.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

That has serious mailbag potential. In fact, that can't wait: More artful hair:

— Trump

— Channel 12's Rick Nyman

— Jimmie Johnson in the late Hurricanes/early Cowboys era

— Mel Kiper Jr.

Discuss.

Spy —

Have not been able to look at BVG's 'do... we're too enthralled with that 'stache. That is one boss, 1970s cop show Mustache. And yes, it deserved to be a capitalized 'M.'

Can't hold picking Bias against the C's. He was going to be a monster. Turned out to be a nightmare. Plus, Red pick Larry Legend a year early and dealt Joe Barry Carroll and some cash for what turned out to be Chief and McHale (that's a Frank Robinson-for-Vada Pinson level fleecing).

Thought you would have gone Wayne earlier. "The Searchers" is pretty boss.

Did you see the "True Grit" from the last year or two? Jeff Bridges did a pretty good Rooster. Thoughts?

Harrison Ford has a put together a nice resume, too.

— 5-at-10

February 21, 2012 at 12:27 p.m.
Blueoval said...

For hair I would have to throw Jay Leno into the mix as well..... I'm not sure who I would draft after Mickelon, I would start with whoever has the hot putter at the time......

February 21, 2012 at 12:33 p.m.
fechancellor said...

Ten Ring,

"You either surf or you fight," Big Duke Six.

It's too early for me to form up a proper Masters card. Lots of golf to be played between now and then.

On "Purple Drank," I remember everyone--well announcers, analysts, press and blogs--saying that Mr. Davis made the right decision with that pick on draft day. Raider relations with Jamarcus soured when Russell held out into the season. After that, things Russell never got any better.

February 21, 2012 at 1:12 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Oval —

Leno can be in the hair discussion.

As for the hot putter, let's say that you had the No. 2 pick in the Masters draft. And let's say Hunter Mahan — one of the game's best young putters — was making everything or that Loran Roberts — who used to be such a good putter they called him the "Boss of the Moss" — in his prime were on the board. Would you have us believe that you'd take either one of them over Tiger?

FE to the C —

Russell showed out in the Sugar Bowl and the combine, but the folks that covered the SEC were world-class puzzled by his meteoric rise to the top of the draft board.

But that never worried Al. (moment of silence.)

— 5-at-10

February 21, 2012 at 1:46 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

BVG was an extra in the Beastie Boys' "Sabotage", wasn't he?

(boy, the double meaning there after his one-year fiasco in Los Boros...)

February 21, 2012 at 1:57 p.m.
Blueoval said...

I totally see your point but I just can't pull the trigger on Tigger....until he gives 4 solid rounds and not 3 and a meltdown. With that said he will probably be wearing the green jacket once again :)

February 21, 2012 at 2 p.m.
chas9 said...

Ron Burgandy. Agassi. Cossell. Marv Albert.

February 21, 2012 at 2:04 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

A word of caution on picking a Masters winner now. Besides the fact that every Sunday so far on the PGA Tour has had a winner coming from out of nowhere.

The current holder of the Green Jacket is one Charl Schwartzel. No e and no s at the end of "Harrlll." An unlikely winner to be sure. No current stat lends a possible winner. Have you seen the top 10 in putting? Aside from Aaron Baddeley, it's a list of "who?" in there.

February 21, 2012 at 2:32 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Spy —

Yep. And he was sippin' some Brass Monkey, that funky monkey.

Yet again, you're wise beyond your years in regard to picking a Masters winner right now. Who you got at Daytona?

Oval —

Completely understand — and agree — with you stance. It's almost like the lesser of two evils. And you're original point is valid — it's entirely too early to be picking the Masters.

Especially when we have a Ricky Bobby If you're not winning you're losing NASCAR challenge going on.

Who you got?

9er —

Great call on Cossell. And love the scene of Anchorman when Veronica Corningstone hits him with, "Well, you have bad hair," and Burgandy acts as if he's been stabbed in the soul. Good stuff.

Agassi — image is everything. Well, image and cocaine.

— 5-at-10

February 21, 2012 at 2:46 p.m.
Blueoval said...

If you ain't first, you're last.......

February 21, 2012 at 2:52 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

well ... junior johnson's out ...

When in doubt, go with Smoke. I'm taking Tony Stewart for the win. Danica to finish between 20 and 30.

February 21, 2012 at 8:35 p.m.
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