published Tuesday, January 24th, 2012

Charlotte & 7th

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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hambone said...

"Johns" or lobbyists?

they're both in the same business!!

January 24, 2012 at 6:16 a.m.
MTJohn said...

hambone - I think you meant to say "pimps" and "lobbyists".

January 24, 2012 at 7:27 a.m.
EaTn said...

Actually nowdays, either of these characters could be a member of the legislation or a street walker. The main difference between the two is that the street walker is more choosy in who they solicit.

January 24, 2012 at 7:44 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

MTJohn: hambone may be right.

The Johns/lobbyists pay for the "services" the ladies of the evening, AKA legislators, provide.

January 24, 2012 at 7:47 a.m.
MTJohn said...

John_Proctor said...The Johns/lobbyists pay for the "services" the ladies of the evening, AKA legislators, provide.

The prostitute/legislator analogy works reasonably well. The metaphor gets a little more complicated when you add lobbyists to the picture. "Johns" are just customers. "Pimps" are in the business of making big bucks by taking advantage of both the service provider and the consumer of those services. Lobbyists are more that just customers and worse than pimps.

January 24, 2012 at 8:22 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

THANKS for the clarification. I think P.J. O'Rourke said it best.

"When legislation is bought and sold, the first thing bought are legislators."

Our current legislature is a perfect example of his truism. We have the finest legislature money can buy.

January 24, 2012 at 8:50 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

As prostitutes go, there are some obvious differences, of course. A streetwalker typically suffers from low self-esteem and misuses herself or himself for financial gain; whereas, Tennessee’s General Assembly clearly suffers from exaggerated self-importance and misuses other people for personal financial gain.

January 24, 2012 at 9:15 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

If you can forgive me another quote, this one just seemed so appropriate given Clay's cartoon and this discussion. I have seen other versions about hating politicians who don't stay bought but couldn't source them. Clay's cartoon is an accurate description of our state legislature.

"An honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought." -- Simon Cameron, 19th century US financier and politician.

January 24, 2012 at 9:35 a.m.
riverman said...

Funny, I don't remember any Clayboy cartoons like this when the Dems were in control of the Legislature. Anybody remember Ward Crutchfield and his, "gratuities?"

January 24, 2012 at 9:43 a.m.
hambone said...

A Whore by any other name is still .....

January 24, 2012 at 10:13 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

Funny, but Clay wasn't employed by the paper when the Crutchfield stories broke. Never let history get in the way of a chance to go Clay bashing.

BTW, the cartoon on the FP side of this morning's paper is pretty funny for a change. Sure would be nice if they would omit those idiotic titles but then that side of the paper has never put much faith in its readership's ability to reach an unaided conclusion.

January 24, 2012 at 10:23 a.m.
MTJohn said...

riverman said...Funny, I don't remember any Clayboy cartoons like this when the Dems were in control of the Legislature.

riverman - when did the Dems last control the Tennessee legislature and who was Clay's employer at that time?

Having asked that question, I will agree with you that D's and R's are guilty of corruption. We, the people, also share the guilt because we have allowed big money to buy our government.

January 24, 2012 at 10:26 a.m.
riverman said...

Funny John, but according to Clay's bio he joined the TFP in 2007. Crutchfield copped a plea in January of 2008. Did you ever take a math course?

January 24, 2012 at 10:30 a.m.
riverman said...

MTJohn, I know the Dems controlled the House in 09 and 10 after Kent Williams sold out his Republican colleagues and was elected speaker by the DEms.But I certainly agree with your comments.

January 24, 2012 at 10:40 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

Touche', riverman.

It's not about math, it's about dates. Did you ever take a history class?

January 24, 2012 at 10:48 a.m.
riverman said...

Being the bedwetting liberal that you are I would think you would consider someone accused of a crime of, "being innocent until proved guilty." :-))

January 24, 2012 at 10:57 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

Is name calling the only response you know? If so, you should seek professional help to resolve whatever issues prevent your ability to argue points not personalities. Stick to the subject of the cartoon. It's not about "bedwetting" or "liberals," and I refuse to respond to ad hominem attacks based on your name calling.

I do believe in the principle of 'innocent until proven guilty" but it is not part of the cartoon either.

January 24, 2012 at 11:09 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Of course, this brings to mind how much of a whore Bennett is for the Democrat(ic) party.

January 24, 2012 at 11:42 a.m.
potcat said...

Thank you Larry Flynt for exposing and bringing to light the Republican Whores, like the Newster!! The Representative from Mississippi who was to replace Newt, was outed as just another Whore monger, like newster.

WE need a another Larry gaurding Nashville.

January 24, 2012 at 12:11 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

BigRidgePatriot said: "This brings to mind how much of a whore Bennett is for the Democrat(ic) party."

For heaven's sake, get a grip. BigRidgePatriot. Satirical drawing is an honorable profession. Surely, you’re not suggesting that it should be banned.

January 24, 2012 at 12:58 p.m.

"Every government is a parliament of whores. The trouble is, in a democracy, the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke

January 24, 2012 at 1:19 p.m.
miraweb said...

BRP doesn't get his $20 if he doesn't put out a little party-sugar every morning. Leave our poor BRP alone -- he's young and needs the money.

January 24, 2012 at 1:42 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Whats_Wrong_With_The_World said: "Every government is a parliament of whores. The trouble is, in a democracy, the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke"

Guess you didn't check out Hotdiggity's link, WWWTW. According to Tennessee’s Republican Tea Party we’re not a democracy, we are a Republic. Of course, this is the same group that claims they want Tennessee's students to be taught the truth about the Republic unless it darkens the image any Founding Father, any citizen majorities, or anyone in the position of leadership - in these cases, the truth cannot be taught:

“During the news conference more than two dozen Tea Party activists handed out material that said, "Neglect and outright ill will have distorted the teaching of the history and character of the United States. We seek to compel the teaching of students in Tennessee the truth regarding the history of our nation and the nature of its government."

And that further teaching would also include that "the Constitution created a Republic, not a Democracy."

The group demanded, as they had in January of last year, that Tennessee lawmakers change state laws governing school curricula. The group called for textbook selection criteria to include: "No portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/23/tea-party-tennessee-textbooks-slavery_n_1224157.html?ref=politics&ir=Politics

January 24, 2012 at 2:10 p.m.
riverman said...

John Proctor, did you not see the :-)) at the end of my post?

January 24, 2012 at 2:58 p.m.
MTJohn said...

riverman said...Funny John, but according to Clay's bio he joined the TFP in 2007. Crutchfield copped a plea in January of 2008. Did you ever take a math course?

riverman - it was an honest question. I don't live in TN and don't follow TN politics. I'm just a fan of Clay Bennett and have been since his days with the Monitor.

January 24, 2012 at 3:01 p.m.
potcat said...

Nashville- Two socially conservative lawmakers are promoting what they think is legally a defensible way for local goverments to display the Ten Commandments.

Mike Bell,R-Riceville said displays that include the 10 commandents should withstand legal challenges in county courthouses.

Proponents assume the ten commandents had something to do with the founding of the United States, and thats absolutly FALSE.

Barry Lynn executive director for seperation of church and state said that Protestants, Catholics and Jews use different versions of the commanments and five commandments have no connection to state or federal laws.

Americans can choose wheather and whom to worship, or not at all. There's no secular component to these other rules...[they] play no role in the framework of this country.

Republicans are now in charge, and the TFP poll asked.. Should counties be allowed to display the 10 commandments, as of now it stands 399 yes..191 no.

Thats what are legislators are doing in their representation of TN. What little time they actually spend in Nashville, they bring up a go no where bill. With so many other problems TN.is facing,Seperation of Church and State is not one of them,its has been Ruled on,its the LAW,its is unconstitutional to bring any religion into our State laws, buildings or govermment.

What a bunch of Morons, and the people of TN are in DIRE need of a Constitution Law lesson!!

January 24, 2012 at 4 p.m.
riverman said...

No problem MT John, that response was directed at the other John. As I mentioned I agree with your comments about both parties, but it appears Clayboy doesn't worry about it when the Dems are in control. And Mt Laurel, we don't live in a Democracy we lice in a Representive Republic . But never confuse a liberal with the facts.

January 24, 2012 at 4:30 p.m.
Astropig said...

Has anybody else noticed how the number of comments on this feature have dropped since the change in comments policy ? There used to be upwards of 80-90-100 comments on Clay Bennets daily cartoon,but now he's lucky to get 45. The Knoxville News Sentinel still has comments and they seem to be doing fine.

Just sayin'

January 24, 2012 at 5:03 p.m.
LibDem said...

potcat, The poll tells you why the "cover every flat surface in the State with Commandments" bill has been proposed. 60 to 70% of Tennessee citizens will vote for these guys and against their own interests.

January 24, 2012 at 5:58 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Potcat said: "Nashville- Two socially conservative lawmakers are promoting what they think is legally a defensible way for local goverments to display the Ten Commandments."

All things considered, I suspect Senator Bell and Rep. Hill are using the Ten Commandments as a cheap political ploy to cause trouble, which is shameful. Indeed, if the Ten Commandments had played a vital historical role in the State’s government and its State representatives had applied the Ten Commandments in all decision making matters involving the State of Tennessee, I suppose they might have a valid point about the historical significance of the Ten Commandments in the State of Tennessee. But as every living Tennessean with Native and African American heritage knows, this was not the case.

January 24, 2012 at 6:10 p.m.
EaTn said...

mountainlaurel....these legislators start to rear their heads when they realize that elections are not too far away and they've not made any noise for the voters back home to take notice. If these folks would worry more about living the ten commandments than posting them, we'd all be better off.

January 24, 2012 at 6:31 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

mountainlaurel said... "Surely, you’re not suggesting that it should be banned."

Of course not, a little balance would be nice though!

January 24, 2012 at 10:01 p.m.
acerigger said...

Tennessee Legislators,, WHERE are the jobs??? Where are even the BILLS supposed to create jobs??

If anyone can provide examples of ANY efforts by the Republican-led state legislature to promote job growth in our state,please,feel free to share that information with the rest of us.

January 24, 2012 at 10:46 p.m.

Why does it have to be just Tennessee? That question could and should be asked to each state. I also remember a certain President stating over and over he was going to bring jobs to America. Where are those? But I guess asking that question would not get the answer you want.

January 24, 2012 at 11:10 p.m.
chet123 said...

These clowns embarrassing the state of Tennessee.....

January 25, 2012 at 8:49 a.m.
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