published Tuesday, June 12th, 2012

The Paramedics

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Salsa said...

He must have been run over by Obama's Commerce secretary.

June 12, 2012 at 12:06 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

"LIBERAL" economics: borrowing money, regulating and regulating and regulating, ignoring the Constitution...And look where we're heading: Greece. Can nomad Bennett and his horde take a right turn?

June 12, 2012 at 12:19 a.m.

And what label should we give Obama's economic philosophy the last few years?

June 12, 2012 at 12:26 a.m.

I guess of you call his wife and children vacation around the world while he golfs and begs for money for the job he clearly can't do a philosophy, then well......

June 12, 2012 at 12:33 a.m.

Look at the faithful adherents out already. The anti-Obama cult is reciting their usual litany.

Greece was beholden to tourism and international finaciers. I sure hope we won't be like them. Even though Mitt Romney would surely love it if he could hold us hostage to the financial cabals. Bankers are more important to him than policemen, firefighters and teachers.

How many trillions in cash are the Fortune 500 sitting on, waiting for "certainty" or whatever else it is they want? How many laws favoring their interests will they get?

June 12, 2012 at 12:43 a.m.
lightkeeper said...

The cartoon is right.....when some of you conservatives should have been complaining is when bush was in office. Republican presidents screw up the country, then when a democratic president takes office you get mad when he doesn't clean up the screw up fast enough

June 12, 2012 at 1:44 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

IT’S JUST SNAKE OIL

Republicans having been shoveling the same supply side crap since Reagan. It’s a catchy slogan on a bumper sticker, but it's not an economic theory. It's an economic pipe dream that has destroyed America.

Has it stopped republicans from trying to make chicken salad out of it?

Heck no. Now Romeny has a plan to cut taxes on the rich even more, increase defense spending even more, with the promise of roses and lollipops and a balanced federal budget and lower unemployment and a brand spanking new morning in America.

Just for once I’d like one of you tea baggers to defend supply side / trickle down economics. I know you love to attack Obama because his economy only added over 4 million private sector jobs, forgetting he inherited an economy that was losing 750,000 jobs a MONTH.

Every republican presidential candidate since Ronnie has had the same routine. Stand on a stage with flags waving and balloons rising and people cheering, hold up a bottle of supply side trickle down snake oil, and sell it as the magical economic elixir. Out of work? This’ll fix ya’ right up! Want to balance the federal budget? Here’s your answer! Foreign countries dissin’ you? Give ‘em a taste of this stuff!

When the curtain comes down, however, it doesn’t matter how you bottle it, how you market it, or how you sell it.

It’s just snake oil.

June 12, 2012 at 1:47 a.m.
wrdrennan said...

Very good. Need an image of the "economy" and the elephants ignoring it.

June 12, 2012 at 2:13 a.m.
alprova said...

This is an appropriate time to remind everyone that the national debt that has some people hyperventilating is nowhere near as bad as people think it is.

In 1946, public debt stood at 108.6% of GDP, after topping out at 130% during the height of WWII. In 1943, Deficit spending topped out at 30.3% of GDP.

In 2019, the national debt is predicted to be 67.2% of GDP. Deficit spending in 2019 is predicted to be 3.1% of GDP.

We're quite a ways from any figures that deserve all the panic attacks by those who worry constantly about debt and deficits.

June 12, 2012 at 2:14 a.m.
alprova said...

BBND wrote: "And what label should we give Obama's economic philosophy the last few years?"

The man has done what he has had to, in order to save as many jobs as possible, and to keep this nation from slipping further into a deep, dark hole.

Had John McCain been elected, he would have made many, if not most, of the same decisions that President Obama has.

People look to the President of this nation as if he were a God. Nothing prepares you for the job, no matter how long one's history is in politics. Every man who has held the office has had to learn on the go. Every one of them have made mistakes.

Ronald Reagan inherited some aspects of a bad an economy, just as President Obama did, and it was not until the end of his eighth year in office that the economy was doing well.

You people have expected miracles from the man in three years. Given that the net job losses of nearly 800,000 have been transformed into net job gains ranging from 20,000 to 225,000 a month consistently for each month of the past two years, that gross domestic product, industrial production, and corporate earnings, are all heading north, I consider all these things to be miraculous, even if the President had no direct hand in any of it.

Could he have done more? Probably...maybe. This nation has not faced such horrible economic conditions that he walked into since the 1930's. History proves that it was a long haul back then too. It took nearly twenty years before economic conditions were what could remotely be called, "booming."

For almost everyone alive today, it was uncharted territory. Not many economists today have had the first clue what was needed to speed up the progress towards recovery. Why would you expect a President to be any more capable of waving a magic wand?

Has the President made mistakes? Sure he has. He's as human as the rest of us. But the man has done a decent job, given the condition that this nation was in on January 20, 2009.

Are any of you eager to return to that day and to start over? I'm sorry, but I am far better off than I was back then. I know that I am not alone. What a shame it is that so many people are so dishonest as to not admit to reality.

June 12, 2012 at 2:56 a.m.
anniebelle said...

No-class Salsa starts us off with a big lie! The Commerce Secretary suffered a seizure while driving -- NO ALCOLHOL OR DRUGS involved. You who are easily lied to, need to find some news other than the crap they watch that goes under the heading of 'news'.

June 12, 2012 at 5:57 a.m.

All rhetoric. No substance. Partisan tripe dished out to make socialists swoon into their Lazyboys and the productive class yawn on their way to work.

U.S. Government 101: http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html

Next period: Economics 101

June 12, 2012 at 6:47 a.m.
joneses said...

Finally an honest cartoon by Clay Bennett. The wounded man on the street signifies a wounded America that Hussein Obama has attempted to kill and the Republicans (the paramedics in the cartoon) are going to revive it back to life. It could not be more accurate.

June 12, 2012 at 6:48 a.m.
joneses said...

Not one libtard has ever posted one thing President Bush did to hurt the economy. Was it adding 5 trillion dollars to the debt in 8 years? Hussein Obama has added over 5 trillion dollars to the debt in 3.5 years and is on track to double the debt that he promised he would cut in half. Hussein Obama lied to you. Was it the wars in iraq and Afghanistan the dummycrats and Republicans voted for? Obama has had 3.5 years to pull us out of these two wars like he promised but we are still at war. Husein Obama went to war in Libya without congressional approval and has involved troops in a war in Africa the liberal media will not report on Was it the 800 billion dollar bank bailout the Republicans and dummycrats voted for? Hussein Obama spent 800 billion dollars and has nothing to show for it but his ruined economy, high inflation and high unemployment that was voted for only by dummycrats. President Bush never promoted class warfare with hate speech pitting the poor against the job creators, gays against straights, blacks against whites. President Bush did not receive 10 million dollars from Wall Street and then hire people from Wall Street for his cabinet and appoint them czars. Hussein Obama did. President Bush was going to loan 17 billon dollars to GM and Chrysler which was stupid and Hussein Obama gave GM and Chrysler over 50 billion dollars which and they have never paid back one penny even though they are making record profits. So tell me what did President Bush do to ruin this economy? I can name many things Hussein Obama did that is destroying this economy and I will. All the dummycrats do is pass feel good legislation without any focus on the unintended consequences of that legislation.

June 12, 2012 at 6:54 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Wrong, Joneses! To name just a few:

  1. Tax cuts.
  2. Going to war without asking the country to sacrifice.
  3. Starting the war in Afghanistan and then dropping the ball.
  4. Going to war in Iraq without justification, on a false pretext, with unrealistic expectations and without a plan.
  5. Public education reform based on a fraudulent model.

And, to refute a couple of your arguments, the class war in this country is over - it was won by the wealthy! Also, note that Bush's cabinent was vetted by CPAC - follow the money on that one.

June 12, 2012 at 6:56 a.m.
MTJohn said...

The 1980 election was a "Fram oil filter commercial" moment. Unfortunately, we paid a high price but failed to learn the lesson. In spite of all of the bravado and the happy talk about American ideals, we lack the courage to face hard reality and the willingness to make personal sacrifice for the sake of the country we profess to love. It is much easier to dance to the tune of the Pied Piper of Profligacy and, while dancing, intentionally ignore the fact that the Piper is picking our pockets.

June 12, 2012 at 7:04 a.m.
cactus said...

The private sector is doing fine.

June 12, 2012 at 7:31 a.m.
joneses said...

mt john

Wrong

Congress democrats approved the war which Hussein Obama continues so if President Bush is at fault then Hussein Obama is as well.

Hussein Obama is still in Afghanistan and more than one third of American soldiers have been killed during his Afghanistan war.

Congress voted for the war in Iraq and had the same information President Bush had. You liberals Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Pelosi and others during Clintons term confirmed Iraq had WMDs. Also it was Clinton's intelligence agency that gave President Bush the information he presented to congress before they voted on the war in Iraq. You are a liar and you like all the other dummycrats should be ashamed for turning your backs on our brave soldiers.

Public eduction reform based on fraudulent model? Are you that stupid? You have not one ounce of proof an can only back this up by an opinion and not fact.

Class war? The only class war in this country is the one you pathetic parasitic liberals created to avoid getting up off your ass and producing for yourself. Quit playing victim. There is not a real class war. People come to this country everyday and find success. Only the lazy, parasitic looters like you that sit on your ass waiting for a handout are pissing and moaning about not being successful. Half the workers in this country that do not pay any income tax need to step up and pay their fair share as they soak up more resources than those of us who choose to be successful.

June 12, 2012 at 7:32 a.m.
joneses said...

Obama has raised more money from Wall Street through the Democratic National Committee and his campaign account than any politician in American history. He has raked in more cash from bank employees, hedge fund managers and financial services companies than all Republican candidates combined.

According to Reuters, Wall Street accounted for 20 percent of the president’s campaign funds because of a massive cash haul from Goldman Sachs, AIG, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America and Citigroup.

But it’s laughable that the same man who feasts with Wall Street fat cats at $38,000-a-plate fundraisers turns around and claims the next day that attacking those same money men will be the basis of his reelection campaign. Obama’s fake outrage is all the more preposterous considering that the White House’s policies have led to record profits on Wall Street during the first two years of the Obama administration. In fact, Wall Street amassed more profits in the first two years of the Obama presidency than all eight of George W. Bush’s combined.

June 12, 2012 at 7:32 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Joneses,

You have no concept of reality. Another one of those Bush worshippers. Get your head out of the sand.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/01/AR2010010101196.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/report-shows-how-bush-destroyed-the-american-economy

http://money.msn.com/mutual-fund/article.aspx?post=09d90714-2402-4772-a6c5-86d2af7ccaed

And YOU PROVIDE NO PROOF FOR YOUR CLAIMS! Prove everything you say or it means nothing.

June 12, 2012 at 7:38 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Joneses - why doesn't the same "logic" apply to President Obama?

June 12, 2012 at 7:44 a.m.
conservative said...

Blondie..

The loontoonist is clearly desperate to shift blame from Obamination to Republicans. It will only work with the hopeless.

There is a group of them who still blame Reagan for the problems with Socialism Security. Just shake your head and note them.

June 12, 2012 at 7:46 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Conservative - I don't blame Reagan. I blame us. For the love of money is the root of all evil. We live in a society and function in an economy that celebrates greed. We put $$$ on a great altar and five times a day, we face that altar, get down on our knees and pay it homage.

June 12, 2012 at 8:11 a.m.
conservative said...

MtJohn.....

I can agree with you generally. As far as America's debt the problem is "for the love of other people's money." It is the un-Constitutional spending that is the source of our debt woes.

The right side of this paper has preached this problem for the over 30 years that I have been reading it.

June 12, 2012 at 8:27 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Conservative - you are confusing symptoms with disease and you are ignoring at least half of the symptoms. As the folks who contributed to Simpson-Boles noted, we have to reduce spending and increase revenues.

And, as a footnote, Congress is responsible for the federal budget. If spending is consistent with the budget, as approved by Congress, it is a stretch (dishonest???) to talk about un-Constitutional spending. If we are serious about solving our nation's economic problems (or any other important problem, for that matter) a good place to start would be a commitment to honest conversation. Much of the preaching that the right side has been doing for the last 30 years is to fill the air waves with road apples.

June 12, 2012 at 8:34 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

You don't see King Kenyan driving the tax-me-to-death meat wagon. Just the GOP trying to save the patient. I agree with this Toon Boy epic.

June 12, 2012 at 8:58 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Untimely and redundant. The Wart probably found this piece of work behind his drawing board from back during the Bush administration. Bennett truly sucks.

I wonder if it would be worthwhile to try to discuss economics with herd of liberals that have allowed their minds to be totally contaminated with socialist propaganda and closed up tight as a drum...

Probably not.

June 12, 2012 at 9:03 a.m.
conservative said...

MtJohn.....

You have an extraordinary gift in being extraordinarily vague.

The social spending programs are responsible for our debt just as spending is responsible for personal debt. Congress had no Constitutional authority to implement these programs thus the term un-Constitutional is correctly used by us who care about the debt.

These programs should have been implemented by the states if they were to be implemented at all. This power was given to the states by the Tenth Amendment NOT to Congress.

It is greed, the intense covetous desire for other people's money that has put this country in enormous debt.

Yes, we need conversation, CLEAR conversation, not metaphors about fruit if we are ever to have a meeting of the minds.

June 12, 2012 at 9:26 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Conservative - vague only because I have an "extraordinary gift" for refusing to engage the conversation as Frank Lunz and his minions have framed the national debate because that framing is intentionally deceptive.

If you think the social programs are un-Constitutional, this is not the correct forum for pressing your argument. The Constitutional thing and the American thing to do is to take Congress to court - and it's Congress, not the Executive branch, that you should sue because Congress passed those laws.

Every dime that the country spends - not just the social programs - contributes to our national debt. But, if you want to blame the social programs, at least do so honestly. The major social programs that contribute to the national debt are Social Security and Medicare. And, the reason they do so is because both programs have large trust funds - both of which are currently funded with IOU's. We owe both programs substantial sums of money because we have been paying for tax cuts by borrowing money from the trusts. Eventually, we will pay the debt by breaking promises that have been made to lots of middle class folks who thought they were contributing to both trusts through payroll deduction with the expectation of a return on that "investment" in the form of retirement and health care benefits.

Someone in this thread made reference to "class warfare". The real victims in that war have been middle class people (presumably, that also includes you). And, the perpetrators have not been the folks whom you seem inclined to blame, i.e. the poor who receive medicaid, food stamps, earned income tax credits, etc. Rather, it is the wealthy who have participated in the K Street Project to take ownership of our government and manipulate it for their selfish purposes. And, curiously, they have done so largely by deceiving a lot of working class people.

June 12, 2012 at 9:47 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Such a divide in our country. This place is a great example. Not sure it will ever heal.

June 12, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.
joneses said...

easy123

Why? You would not acknowledge a fact that contradicted what you have been brainwashed into believing if it bit you on your fat ass. if anyone is worshiping anyone it is you worshiping Hussein Obama as your messiah as you have never held him accountable for any of his failures. Was I happy with President Bush adding 5 trillion dollars to the debt in 8 years? No. Was I happy with President Bush not funding the prescription plan for seniors? No. And I did not give him a pass. But you know what? Hussein Obama pissed and moaned about these two things President Bush did and he is on track to double what President Bush added to the debt and he has done nothing to reverse the prescription drug plan for seniors. So you are the one afraid to stand up to this fool you worship as president or ruler as you prefer to call him. The problem with you libturds is you think this fool you put in the White House is more important than you. Believe me this failure of a president will never be more important than any American citizen. He works for the American taxpayer that is paying his sorry ass and I want him fired for his failures as a president and you should want the same thing. Get your head out of Hussein Obama's ass long enough to see how he is destroying this country. Hussein Obama is a complete failure.

June 12, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.
timbo said...

HERE WE GO AGAIN...I won't debate anything about supply-side economics but I do know one thing. Keynesian economics hasn't worked and that is why we are in the fix we are in.

How can the government spending more fix the national debt? Are you liberals just stupid?

June 12, 2012 at 10:34 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

nice comment, little noogs.

June 12, 2012 at 11:01 a.m.
MTJohn said...

timbo said..."HERE WE GO AGAIN...I won't debate anything about supply-side economics but I do know one thing. Keynesian economics hasn't worked and that is why we are in the fix we are in."

Timbo - what is your basis for assuming that we have practiced Keynesian economics - at least since 1980?

I'd suggest, as I stated earlier in this conversation, that we are in the fix that we are in because we are all selfish. Regardless of which economic model we employ, greed is the engine that drives it. A major part of the reason that economic models fail is that they are all built on fallacies intended to inure us from our own selfishness.

June 12, 2012 at 11:09 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Noogs. You are everything that is wrong with this forum.

June 12, 2012 at 11:28 a.m.
moonpie said...

I don't think supply side economics ruined the economy any more than Keynesian economics has.

Both are theories which employ economic tools. Each may have a correct place depending on circumstances.

I think the current argument against supply side economics right now is that even though there are record corpporate profits, there is still sluggish job growth. Part of those increased profits are because companies have learned to do more with less. But it does show that companies and people don't hire just because they have a surplus.

Likewise, infusing the country with cash does worsen the debt burden, which we need to solve. So I can understand the discomfort.

I agree with MtJohn that our economy was toppled by us. Consumers borrowed money to prop up their lifestyles and then investment firms started bundling debt into more and more complex vehicles to the point where few people understood what they were or how risky they were.

In truth, it was a collapse of the free market.

I think this is hard for people on the extremes of the political spectrum to accept (as the finger-pointing has indicated).

A free market will have calamities because in a free market there will be abuses and unforseen events. You can't always protect against those on the front end. Sometimes you do need to take corrective action on the back end. I think the bailouts were needed to prevent a freefall.

Conservatives say the bailouts and stimulus package were not successful because the economy has not fully recovered. That's like saying the chemotherapy didn't work because the patient is still sick. Sick may be better than dead.

I don't think the government should always pump money into the economy any more than I think they should just pump money out of it. So while I think this was a brilliantly executed cartoon, I don't really agree with the conclusion.

June 12, 2012 at 11:35 a.m.
conservative said...

MTJohn....

You are even vague when you admit to being vague in your first paragraph.

Show me in the Constitution where social programs are permitted by Congress.

I have never mentioned suing anyone much less Congress and don't know who intends to or even what good it would do if someone did. So please don't bring up that red herring again.

Where have I been dishonest about Social Security ; I'm the one who calls it Socialism Security? What does "But, if you want to blame the social programs, at least do so honestly" have to do with me?

Agreed, "The major social programs that contribute to the national debt are Social Security and Medicare."

Now if you want to be honest about Socialism Security you will have to admit and recognize it is unsustainable. It is a government run ponzi scheme. People go to jail who are caught running them.

In the beginning there were about 40 people paying the SS tax for every 1 that got a check. Today it is about 2-3 to 1. About 50 million receive SS benefits so there is a great burden on workers today. More money is going out to SS recipients than coming in and that is why it is like a ponzi scheme. Obamination has made it much worse by cutting the SS tax. Have you forgotten?

Also the money taken from workers today is going directly to SS recipients and not to any "trust fund" for their future retirement.

If I were to get a capital gains tax cut that means less revenue is going to the federal government which has NOTHING to do with a "trust fund' for SS. No money is transferred from SS to me.

Blaming tax cuts for the rich as the cause for Socialism Security's problems is just demagoguery by Liberals.

Medicare problems will soon if not now be worse.

June 12, 2012 at 11:39 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

STEP INTO THE TIME MACHINE

Timbo cried, "Keynesian economics hasn't worked and that is why we are in the fix we are in."

Wrong. Clinton relied heavily on Keynsian principles, including raising taxes on the wealthy, massive investments, and convincing the Fed Chair to reduce interest rates.

Had we continued Clinton's budget in 2001 the massive debt accumulated by the Reagen/Bush administrations probably would have been paid off by now. Thanks to congressional republicans, Obama is still strapped with the Bush tax cuts and the Fed can't cut interest rates.

It wasn't continued though was it? Nope. W cut taxes for the wealthy twice and then had to borrow around $1 trillion from China to wage his stupid Iraq invasion and occupation.

No one has yet to provide evidence of supply side / trickled down economics balancing the federal budget or lowering unemployment.

I wonder why that is...

June 12, 2012 at 11:42 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Conservative - you are entitled to your opinion that social programs violate the Constitution. But, until the courts rule in your favor, it is just your opinion. Thus, my suggestion that you sue Congress.

June 12, 2012 at 12:20 p.m.
raygunz said...

Tax cuts for the rich adds to nat'l debt? yes.A NO BRAINER! But with the military/defense budget taking 60-70 cents out of every dollar you think that don't affect nothing,huh? WAKE UP!

June 12, 2012 at 12:30 p.m.
conservative said...

MtJohn....

At 12.20p you wrote "Conservative - you are entitled to your opinion that social programs violate the Constitution. But, until the courts rule in your favor, it is just your opinion. Thus, my suggestion that you sue Congress" after I wrote at 11:39 "I have never mentioned suing anyone much less Congress and don't know who intends to or even what good it would do if someone did. So please don't bring up that red herring again"

So after all the things that I wrote at 11:39a you come back with that. What happened to your wish for an "honest conversation" at 8:34a?

June 12, 2012 at 1:19 p.m.
MTJohn said...

conservative said..."So after all the things that I wrote at 11:39a you come back with that. What happened to your wish for an "honest conversation" at 8:34a?"

Our social programs are the law of the land, the product of legislation passed in Congress and signed by the President, i.e. both branches of government functioning as authorized by the Constitution. You make think that our social programs are un-Constitutional and I respect your right to hold that opinion. However, your opinion in the matter does not equate to fact. Absent a ruling by the courts on this matter, there is nothing honest about a conversation that presupposes the programs in question are unconstitutional (unless you are preparing a legal brief to test that theory in court).

June 12, 2012 at 4:41 p.m.
Anklejive said...

Good one, Clay. If there were a couple of more frames after this one, they would show the EMTs picking up the loose change and driving away, leaving Uncle Sam to fend with the insurance companies on his own.

June 12, 2012 at 5:19 p.m.
conservative said...

MTJohn...

There is no question in my mind that un-Constitutional programs such as Socialism Security and Medicare as well as many others will ever be abolished simply because the vast majority of Americans are a greedy, immoral and Godless lot. They have contempt for the Constitution, the law of the land. It is a fantasy to believe otherwise.

The reality that you and other Liberals refuse to grasp is that the only thing sustaining these many Socialist programs is borrowed money. There are always willing borrowers but there will not always be willing lenders.

Almost half of the American people pay no federal income taxes and constantly vote for politicians to funnel other people's money to them. Government is their God. They have been willing to believe the lie that they are entitled to other people's money and they have shown no willingness to give up a dime of their fantasy entitlement and that is the truth.

June 12, 2012 at 5:39 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Please explain how Social Security and Medicare are "socialist". Then explain how those programs are unconstitutional.

The reality is that you don't understand either program. And just so you know, socialism does not equal communism, especially in the modern world.

About 46-47% of Americans don't pay federal income taxes because they don't qualify. If you don't want to pay them, then just be poorer.

"the vast majority of Americans are a greedy, immoral and Godless lot."

This statement is your mantra. You are a self-righteous fool.

June 12, 2012 at 6:01 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I thought the vast majority of Americans were Christians. (?)

June 12, 2012 at 6:44 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy123: Are you Nooga?

June 12, 2012 at 6:45 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Jack_Dennis,

Why do you keep asking me this? No.

Maybe you can answer some of my questions. Or are you just the "stupid quip" guy that adds nothing to the discussion?

June 12, 2012 at 6:47 p.m.
conservative said...

You can add that to your long list of mental errors.

June 12, 2012 at 6:49 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Conservative,

Please explain how Social Security and Medicare are "socialist". Then explain how those programs are unconstitutional.

Go ahead. The floor is yours.

June 12, 2012 at 6:50 p.m.
alprova said...

He'll never answer those two questions, just like he picks and chooses which parts of the Bible he feels are relevant to his life.

June 12, 2012 at 8:15 p.m.
MTJohn said...

conservative said..."There is no question in my mind that un-Constitutional programs such as Socialism Security and Medicare as well as many others will ever be abolished simply because the vast majority of Americans are a greedy, immoral and Godless lot."

I have no doubt that you believe that to be true. That makes it your opinion - it does not make it factual.

For someone who is so concerned about what is/is not constitutional, I am surprised that you think your opinion ought to take precedent over the constitutionally defined process.

June 12, 2012 at 8:18 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy. What do you add?

June 12, 2012 at 9:40 p.m.
moonpie said...

Did anyone else see this ratio today?

8:1

Stunning.

June 12, 2012 at 9:41 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Joy Behar, Al Gore's new employee at Current TV, said Tuesday in response to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's comments on the need for more police, teachers, and firefighters, "I’d like to see his house burn, one of his millions of houses burning down." After saying she would like to see Romney homes burn down...

During an interview with the liberal website Mediaite, Behar added, "It would be kind of cool - the Mormon fire patrol" (video follows with transcript and commentary, relevant section begins at minute 6:30):

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/06/12/joy-behar-wants-see-romneys-house-burn-down-it-would-be-kind-cool-mor#ixzz1xdKs2amn

Be proud, lefties.

June 12, 2012 at 9:44 p.m.
Easy123 said...

More than you Jack. So much more than you.

I'm glad you took the time to post a stupid link about JOY BEHAR. Congratulations! Investigative reporter JackDennis!

June 12, 2012 at 9:52 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy, are you SURE you're not Noogs?

June 12, 2012 at 10:22 p.m.
Easy123 said...

I've already answered you.

June 12, 2012 at 10:27 p.m.
raygunz said...

tu_quoque said...

RatsAzz Snivels:

”Tax cuts for the rich adds to nat'l debt? yes.A NO BRAINER! But with the military/defense budget taking 60-70 cents out of every dollar you think that don't affect nothing,huh? WAKE UP!”

“60-70 cents out of every dollar” You are without a doubt an absolute idiot ... "NO BRAINER!!"

Maybe only 54%,,,my bad. But you can see for yourself,,,http://www.warresisters.org/pages/images/pieFY09.gif

so why is our money being spent this way?

June 12, 2012 at 11:33 p.m.
raygunz said...

conservative said...

MTJohn...

"There is no question in my mind that un-Constitutional programs such as Socialism Security and Medicare as well as many others will ever be abolished simply because the vast majority of Americans are a greedy, immoral and Godless lot"

lkeithlu said...

"I thought the vast majority of Americans were Christians. (?)"

too cool ike!

June 12, 2012 at 11:41 p.m.
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