published Wednesday, June 20th, 2012

Relevance

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Two days in a row? I wonder how long before the sputtering outrage begins.

June 20, 2012 at 12:05 a.m.
John_Proctor said...

Any second now. Pop the corn, lean back in your recliner and watch the puppets dance.

June 20, 2012 at 12:10 a.m.
Easy123 said...

This thread is going to blow up in the morning. All the usual suspects will be crying foul and insulting Clay Bennett. Should be entertaining.

June 20, 2012 at 12:39 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Hey Bulbs, AKA clay123: Must be important for you to be first each nite. (saying essentially the same thing) Why is that?

June 20, 2012 at 12:52 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Because bulbs knows exactly what you idiots will say everytime. It's like clockwork.

Moderating these threads and making erroneous comments must be important to you, Jack. Why is that?

June 20, 2012 at 2 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Creative criticism: "irrelevant"? Romney has faults--he lacks the sense (he's too proud?) to throw Romneycare and the Book of Mormon under the bus--but the nominee of one of the two big parties in a close race is already influencing a lot of people's live, and likely enough to influence more. If Mr Bennett really considered the dog washer more irrelevant than the dog eater, he'd have paid him the same attention he's paid the nominee of the Constitution Party, whoever that may be.

June 20, 2012 at 4:50 a.m.
fairmon said...

Does this suggest that Obama is relevant? Could it be neither of them are relevant and congress is the culprit? Watching the Dimon interviews reveals that we have a collection of economic idiots in the U.S. congress.

June 20, 2012 at 4:58 a.m.
dougmusn said...

I would dislike Gov. Romney less if I knew what he would do in office. He says nothing and his words while high sounding are vacuous. I am reminded of the prototypical exchange between a John and a hooker:

J: What's your name, Sweetie? P: What do you want it to be, honey?

Mitt Romney is a prostitute.

June 20, 2012 at 5:50 a.m.
joneses said...

What is relevant is all of Hussein Obama's failures which is everything he has done. What is amazing is you blind liberals still worship Hussein Obama as the Messiah and still give him a pass for al his failures and lies making you look stupid.

June 20, 2012 at 6:20 a.m.
degage said...

And Obama is the result of the choom gang, a Soros puppet.

June 20, 2012 at 6:29 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Andrew sez:

"-he lacks the sense (he's too proud?) to throw Romneycare and the Book of Mormon under the bus"

That's rather arrogant. What makes you think your version of Christianity is better than his?

June 20, 2012 at 6:42 a.m.
EaTn said...

I find it amusing to watch all those Southern ABO's(anybody but Obama) take a stiff drink of coffee and line-up to give Romney their half-hearted "full support".

June 20, 2012 at 6:45 a.m.

Funny the things he accomplished while serving as a Governor the same ones that bash him praised Clinton for doing. Is it so hard to admit that Obama has failed as a leader? I will say this he is much more relevant than the CLOWN cartoonist that is so narrow minded he can think of nothing else.

June 20, 2012 at 7 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Curious: Why doesn't Romney take credit for the Massachusetts health care? My MA relatives think it is great.(and they represent a wide distribution: state worker, clergy, private industry, health care) He could even make it a state's rights issue-works for MA, might not as a federal program. Yet he won't even take credit. Seems dishonest.

June 20, 2012 at 7:09 a.m.
328Kwebsite said...

Obama 2012. The Republicans have failed to provide a candidate. They embraced the Washington D.C. fad that saying anything, however crazy, will lead to good publicity. They were wrong. The rest of America wasn't in on that political science hocus-pocus.

Republican candidates have traditionally been groomed by preceding Presidential races. Take a look at the Palin disaster. It's not only why they lost in 2008, it's also why they'll lose in 2012.

Most Republican Presidents have been groomed by prior higher office: even President Ford was, with his Congressional service. Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower, Ford, George Herbert Walker Bush: all had previous failed races for President or significant national service before election.

Sending up Mitt Romney was a punt. The GOP knows that they lost 2012 when Sarah Palin embarrassed them intellectually in 2008. American voters expect a President to have a mind they can trust.

That's why they rejected a Palin ticket in 2008. It's why they'll not elect Romney in 2012: American voters despise a hypocrite. Romney, in the age of internet videos, has all but went out of his way to look like a hypocrite with his constant reversals. Changing an opinion to suit the audience may be a common practice among politicians; but, it'll get you rejected by voters in the age of the internet.

Romeny's not made himself a hypocrite once or twice: it's not selective editing or remarks out of context: he does it almost daily. Every week we see his reversals broadcast on television. His spoken words are almost an insult to our intelligence.

For President, it's Obama 2012. Because the Republican party screwed up when they thought it was okay to look stupid on TV. Even "Fox News" can't save them. It's another Democratic win in the Presidential races.

And, if they don't quit kissing Jamie Dimon's backside, JP Morgan financed Senators like Bob Corker, too, are sunk. You can't be on the banking committee, softball a bunch of questions to Jamie Dimon, and then expect us to believe that you are not wasting our time. So, also, has Senator Corker put himself on the track to irrelevance. Getting paid off by JP Morgan will make him look irrelevant because it is important to regulate banks after this fiasco they created for themselves by lying their way into fraudulent profit and international financial disaster.

Corker's next. Tennessee rednecks will never understand getting paid off by JP Morgan when working people are losing their homes and retirement funds.

June 20, 2012 at 7:12 a.m.
MTJohn said...

lovetheusaorleave said..."Is it so hard to admit that Obama has failed as a leader?"

It would be very easy to admit that Obama has failed as a leader IF you had substantive, objective information to support that conclusion. Why is it so hard for you to admit that you want to believe that Obama has failed as a leader even though you cannot document that conclusion except with the baseless rhetoric generated by the right-wing bloviation machine?

June 20, 2012 at 7:13 a.m.
Dumbledore403 said...

Love-Why we just admit that the whole Congress has failed as leaders and start from scratch? That is actually closer to the truth. And no I have not been very happy at some of the decisions that President Obama has made but he is better than Romoney...Barely

June 20, 2012 at 7:25 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Must be looking at a Bennett cartoon.

June 20, 2012 at 8:06 a.m.

Clay has his minions, for sure. It's obvious who gets an email from Clay notifying them of the new cartoon so they can start the defense of his work.

It's also obvious that Clay is void of imagination and creativity.

June 20, 2012 at 8:06 a.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "Must be looking at a Bennett cartoon."

Must be looking at a BRP comment.

June 20, 2012 at 8:11 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

bookieturner: I suspect Clay123 is his own minions, under different names.

June 20, 2012 at 8:30 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Who is going to vote for Romney? "NOT ME!"

Ooh, that felt good.

June 20, 2012 at 8:39 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Tu,

Better than your mental faculties.

June 20, 2012 at 8:53 a.m.
Leaf said...

Something about Romney reminds me of John Edwards. I think it's the smarm.

June 20, 2012 at 8:53 a.m.
carlB said...

If you notice, there is the not so subtle hopes (prayer) the Republican "leaders" have been pushing and banking on and even "smirking" about it. When President Obama was elected in 2008, it appeared to shock the irrogance of the Republicans. After all, they had McCain and Palin running against Obama and Biden and they apparently thought they could win against Obama, regardless of who they had on the ticket? It did not take the Republicans very long to come up with their strategies of how they would be able to win the next elections and we have been exposed to those strategies during the entire length of time President Obama has been in the Office. The one subtle strategy that I am talking about is the one that shows their real irrogance, of thinking they can convince the voters that they made a mistake when voting for President Obama and should feel regretful.

June 20, 2012 at 8:55 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Who's Toon Boy slamming, Family Circus or Mitt? How can you slam wholesome Family Circus. Oh, that's right. Beatings of the military brat when he was a child steered him away from any family values. Sorry Toonie, we get it.

June 20, 2012 at 9 a.m.
carlB said...

Voters need to Decide on who will be the best-elected people for our Republic.

It is my opinion that if the Republicans had won the last Presidential election, the USA along with other countries would be in another "great worldwide depression" at this time. Since this Republic was already on an unsustainable trend because of the effects of the global economy, the fraud occurring in the private financial systems was the “straw” that put this Republic into the deep recession since 2007.
Would the Republicans have continued spending the needed money that it would take to prevent another great depression, in addition to their $700 billion dollars-plus TARP package they got in September 2008? Yet, after President Obama got elected in November 2008 and took the Office in January 2009, He decided there was a need for spending money on the much criticized stimulus recovery plan to stabilize the effects of the 2007 deep recession. With this Republic on the “verge” of another great depression in 2008 because of the conditions which caused the 2007 recession, and after the Republicans publicly announcing in 2009 that their number one objective was to do what it would take to cause the failure of President Obama on his first term therefore, it meant that they were not interested in correcting the unfinished “fiasco” conditions carried over from the Bush W. eight years. Why would any voter with any judgment believe the lies, misleading, false information, and negative attacks from the Republicans against President Obama after they had "declared war" against him?
Republicans were trying to force President Obama to do “nothing” after he took office, just as the Republicans did for four years after the 1929 great depression started, without any plans to help end the great depression.
Under the circumstances, with the differences in opinions between the Democrats and the “anti” President Obama people on how to deal with the 2007 recession, the argument appears to be whether voters are will vote to keep Obama for another term, giving him the control of the House and the Senate or continue with the stalemate, sticking to the strategy of the anti Obama people who are trying to convince the voters that his policies for spending money for stabilizing the effects of the 2007 recession are completely wrong.

June 20, 2012 at 9:03 a.m.
degage said...

2007 the year democrats took over the house and senate, thats what happened when frank and Dood took over financial commities.

June 20, 2012 at 9:09 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Here's a list of accomplishments for BHO to run on.

June 20, 2012 at 9:12 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Bulbs is running at the mouth about what WE say, yet the first five posts (save Jack) are the libs bitching about everything! Pot meet kettle bulbs?

June 20, 2012 at 9:17 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

You and your conservative posse are the only ones bitching. That's your MO. Bitch and moan about Obama.

June 20, 2012 at 9:22 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Early123 is perhaps suffering from Early Onset Puberty.

June 20, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

MT needs to look around a little bit! All the proof we need to claim Obama as a failure is all around us! Unemployment rate is higher than bulb's and Easy's I.Q. combined! The national debt is more than ever before! Obama's got the country falling apart by design man!! get your head out of your ass!

June 20, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

With Obama in office we all have a reason to bitch and moan! Kinda like you libs did when Bush was in office! You cried like babies for eight years! You don't hold a monopoly on bitching. until the pig is out of office, I'll bitch all I freakin' want to!

June 20, 2012 at 9:32 a.m.
chatt_man said...

carlB - your comments appear "all wet" from your irrogance system. You need to turn it off before you ruin your front yard.

Geezz, and we're supposed to think these people have "relevant" comments.

June 20, 2012 at 9:32 a.m.
dao1980 said...

TOES, by your logic, cops and EMT's should be held responsible for the traffic accidents they clean up.

chatt_man, I could use a good irrogance system.. my grass is getting dry and my flower beds get to "wiltin" in the hot sun..

June 20, 2012 at 9:36 a.m.
Easy123 said...

You guys never fail. Same unintelligent posts. Same debunked arguments. Same lame jokes and attempts at slander. Like clockwork.

June 20, 2012 at 9:36 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Dao. Bush-5% unemployment rate....Obama-8.2% unemployment rate.

National debt under Bush-$9 trillion....Under Obama-$15.55 trillion. I could go on. Clean what up?

?http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57400369-503544/national-debt-has-increased-more-under-obama-than-under-bush/

June 20, 2012 at 9:43 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

What un-debunked arguments have YOU posted there dimwit?

June 20, 2012 at 9:45 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Nice try, tuqu. That isn't a site authored by Romney's campaign.

June 20, 2012 at 9:56 a.m.
dao1980 said...

TOES, are you insinuating that the our countries socioeconomic machine resets to some magical baseline value each time we cheer in a new mascot, and that our immediate, as well as long term financial past aren't indeed the greatest factors in determining the state of our financial present?

The fallacy you are intending to represent is often used as a rhetorical tool for those who participate in the partisan circus, and is one of the more obvious issues pointing towards the growing sentiment that our two party system has, and is currently failing to justly serve the American people.

June 20, 2012 at 9:59 a.m.
Livn4life said...

Oh yeah,It is irrelevant to all who deem class warfare as the real deal not concern about forces outside the country. It is irrelevant to all who have settled into a mentality that success is to be penalized and we need to spread around the wealth by an all wise, all knowing, and "fair" government. Yeah I guess he's irrelevant. But then, so are most of the failing programs being reintroduced by the current administration with continued denials of failure and keeping to the agenda when it has not worked now, did not work in other countries in the past, and will not work in the future...Relevance may become an ability to see the truth of where we are not headed as a country right now.

June 20, 2012 at 10:03 a.m.
Easy123 said...
June 20, 2012 at 10:04 a.m.
Easy123 said...

livin4life,

Please tell us where we are headed! I'd love to know.

June 20, 2012 at 10:05 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Ok dao. I guess the economy that Clinton took credit for was really Reagan's and Bush sr.s. It's Bush's fault when convenient, but NEVER Obama's fault. I see how it works now!

June 20, 2012 at 10:08 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

But it's the total opposite for you. When Obama actually does something good (e.g. get Osama Bin Laden), you don't give him credit. You might even give the credit to Bush for starting the "War on Terror". I see how it works.

June 20, 2012 at 10:12 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

"Online activism"..."lefteous indignation"? That's a whole lot of crap there groobiecat! HAHA, they put their numbers together under "assumptions". Another wacko liberal site fudging numbers. If that's where you get your info, no wonder you make no sense.

June 20, 2012 at 10:14 a.m.
mymy said...

Eric Holder and Obama just played their last card in Fast and Furious. What are they hiding?

"President Obama has granted an 11th-hour request by Attorney General Eric Holder to exert executive privilege over 'Fast and Furious' documents, a last-minute maneuver that appears unlikely to head off a contempt vote against Holder by Republicans in the House."

June 20, 2012 at 10:15 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

One of the biggest hits on the economy was the bursting of the housing bubble. A combination of unregulated banking (bundling of high risk mortgages) and a public being sold houses they could not afford, from low income families that may not have had the stable income to own a home to middle class families buying Mc-mansions with "interest only" mortgages. This was not any president's fault; it happened under Bush, who in the meantime had two unfunded wars. That Obama has not pulled the economy up faster is also complicated-the stimulus packages that may not of had the effect that they were predicted (including the ones put in place by Bush before he left); the lack of confidence in businesses, who will not hire as many workers as thy might otherwise, tea-party congress members who put too much emphasis on the debt limit, and a GOP who made "making Obama a failure" a higher priority than solving problems.

June 20, 2012 at 10:18 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Don't feel bad TOES, It's all of our fault. Not just the current (or the last) teams Q.B.

You'll begin to realize that when you take a few steps back from the cheer squad and see that governance and the issues surrounding it require a broader perspective and more respect than a football game.

I don't, and have never said George Jr. was personally at fault for anything.. except maybe embarrassing me grammatically in front of the world.. but hey! No big deal. I am from the south, and everyone outside of the south already thinks that I handle snakes for Jesus, kiss cousins, and snuggle goats (all whilst being barefoot) any time I blow my own cover by choosing not to hide my accent during travels elsewhere.

June 20, 2012 at 10:18 a.m.

Another parade of insults inspired by Bennett's shallow "image over substance" analysis of politics. Marching to the drumbeat of Obama’s empty rhetoric, slick PR, and demagoguery, the media will likely succeed in misleading the gullible masses into re-electing him. If MAD turns Bennett down, maybe Parade has a spot for him. Hope. Relevance. Change. Idiocy.

June 20, 2012 at 10:19 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

They had to drag Obama off the golf course when they got Bin Laden! He didn't even know it was happening! They used intelligence gathering techniques that the Bush administration devised and Obama voted against in congress!

They said "we know where Bin Laden bin hiden should we kill him"? And Obama said, "ok". WOW! Such leadership! Mother Theresa would have made THAT call!

As far as Bush's "war on terror", have we been attacked again so far?

June 20, 2012 at 10:22 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

I know you are dense. And biased. But those numbers were taken from the Bureau of Labor Statistics website. They aren't "assumptions". They are factual statistics. But I guess if you are stupid enough to not understand that, then I feel sorry for you.

June 20, 2012 at 10:24 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

You just proved my point. I appreciate it.

June 20, 2012 at 10:25 a.m.
dao1980 said...

TOES, by your logic, I should be mad at George Jr. for allowing us to be attacked in the first place...

June 20, 2012 at 10:26 a.m.

lkeithlu said...

“One of the biggest hits on the economy was the bursting of the housing bubble. A combination of unregulated banking (bundling of high risk mortgages) and a public being sold houses they could not afford, from low income families that may not have had the stable income to own a home to middle class families buying Mc-mansions with "interest only" mortgages. This was not any president's fault; it happened under Bush”

Typical double-talk. Who introduced the bill to fund high-risk mortgages, passed it out of committee, and lobbied the president to sign it? You guys make it sound like Bush was such a tactical genius and eloquent communicator that he twisted the arms of the hapless Democrat Congress until they had no choice but to do his bidding. He was a weak president who knuckled under to foolish Democrat initiatives time after time.

“who in the meantime had two unfunded wars.”

At whose instigation and overwhelming approval?

June 20, 2012 at 10:31 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

I know you are dense. And biased. But those numbers were taken from the Bureau of Labor Statistics website. They aren't "assumptions". They are factual statistics. You can actually look them up yourself on the BLS website. But I guess you really are too stupid to understand that.

How cute. A Bill O'Reilly link. I won't degrade myself by clicking it.

June 20, 2012 at 10:38 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

America was attacked on 9/11....Bush initiates war on terror......still no attacks to date....! Gotta spell EVERYTHING out for you people!

June 20, 2012 at 10:39 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Tu,

He isn't. He's Mormon. Mormonism isn't a sect or denomination of Christianity.

June 20, 2012 at 10:40 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

And Obama killed Osama Bin Laden and a bunch of other high ranking Al-Qaeda officers. You forgot that part.

June 20, 2012 at 10:41 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

"That's 2.2% more unemployment based on the assumption that "Bush policies" contributed to unemployment well into Obama's tenure."

There's your assumption tofu tits!

June 20, 2012 at 10:43 a.m.
dao1980 said...

TOES, was G. Jr. in office on 9/11?.. Remember, this is your logic, not mine.

June 20, 2012 at 10:44 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Yeah Easy! With the drones that Obama despised during the Bush years.

June 20, 2012 at 10:45 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

That isn't assumption. Those are when the Bush policies ended. Are you unaware of that, simpleton?

June 20, 2012 at 10:45 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

Did drones kill Bin Laden? I didn't think so.

June 20, 2012 at 10:46 a.m.
rogerdodger said...

Well it was easy to see why Osama gave the Illegal's a helping hand, because he was behind giving the drug lords guns to kill their families. Only 139 days and he will be voted out & America can become a great and proud nation again

June 20, 2012 at 10:47 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

You suggesting that Bush could predict the future? Huh....maybe if it weren't so darn liberaly incorrect to profile muslims, none of this would have even happened.

June 20, 2012 at 10:48 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Not Bin Laden! "other high ranking Al-Qaeda officers".

June 20, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.
mymy said...

Easy, you and others should be watching Fox for more informative info. You are such a D.....A.....

June 20, 2012 at 10:51 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

"President Obama has granted an 11th-hour request by Attorney General Eric Holder to exert executive privilege over 'Fast and Furious' documents, a last-minute maneuver that appears unlikely to head off a contempt vote against Holder by Republicans in the House." ......Cover up now complete. Arrogance is disgusting. Wise-up, America

June 20, 2012 at 10:52 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Easyasswipe! That's a direct quote from your little story I pasted! I didn't make that up! Maybe you should read first what you post!

June 20, 2012 at 10:53 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy123: I try to stick to MSNBC for the straight skinny. Mwahahahahaha

June 20, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.
dao1980 said...

I think we're nearing a breakthrough TOES.

Think really hard about what you are saying and what the implications are.

Now apply what you find, to other areas of our discussion.

June 20, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.
Easy123 said...

mymy,

That is the funniest thing I've read on this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA3BD2524FE99BD4D&feature=plcp

Fox News is a farce. The fact that you believe it provides "more informative info" is laughable. You sir or madam, are a blockhead.

June 20, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.

What's the point of this cartoon?

What's relevant is the lousy job Obama is doing and his abuse of power. That's reason enough for me to give him the boot.

Looks like Obama is backing Holder and not turning over documents regarding the"fast and furious" scandal. Obama is not an honest man and his administration is one deception after and another. The only thing transparent about Obama is constant lack of transparency.

This will make everything worse for him.

June 20, 2012 at 10:56 a.m.
mymy said...

The Folly of Obamacare

We pay our presidents for judgment, and President Obama committed a colossal error of judgment in making health-care "reform" a centerpiece of his first term. Ahead of the Supreme Court's decision on the Affordable Care Act (ACA) -- and regardless of how the court decides -- it's clear that Obama overreached. His attempt to achieve universal health insurance coverage is a massive feat of social engineering that, by its sweeping nature, weakens the economic recovery and antagonizes millions of Americans.

Let's review why the ACA ("Obamacare") is dreadful public policy:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/06/18/the_folly_of_obamacare_114506.html

June 20, 2012 at 10:58 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

I provided my proof of his position why don't you give some supporting your's.

Read the whole site, including the part that says "about us"

I thought you Fleabaggers were pushing the meme that he wasn’t a Christian.

His religion means nothing to me. If you can find a post written by me that expressed concern about his being Mormon, then you have an argument. Most liberals are not against Romney because he is a Mormon.

I stand by my comment. Anyone that presumes to say that their religion is better than anyone else's is arrogant. There is no evidence to support anyone's religion. The assumption that Romney should give up Mormonism is rude and inappropriate. Just like any evangelist that presumes to "save" Jews.

June 20, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
mymy said...

Easy: you got to be kidding - yourself. LIBERAL VIEWER!

June 20, 2012 at 11:03 a.m.
mymy said...

The left is afraid of Fox News and does everything to keep the sheeple from watching.

June 20, 2012 at 11:04 a.m.
Easy123 said...

mymy,

Watch the videos. They are very telling. But I'm sure you won't because you conservatives never do. You just look at the source and dismiss it. That's why you live in ignorance. You never question your beliefs.

Toes,

I know it is a direct quote. But look it up. Look up the Bush policies. Look up what the unemployment was when Bush left office. Do some research!

June 20, 2012 at 11:05 a.m.
Easy123 said...

mymy,

The "left" and any rational human being knows that Fox is the most biased of any news program. You don't know that because you enjoy basking in your own ignorance. You're hooked on stupid and you just keep feeding the flames with more Fox News.

June 20, 2012 at 11:07 a.m.
mymy said...

Easy: LOL funny!

June 20, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.
EaTn said...

Romney....I would hardly consider a CEO who outsourced as many jobs as Romney as irrelevant.

June 20, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.
dao1980 said...

tu! So glad to hear from you! You've not gotten any better at impersonating a 6 year old I see.

Your cognitive abilities in position-less confrontation aren't congruent with your desire to "jump in the wreak" as you say.

The only advice I can offer you, is that it's much better to take a comedic stance when you've got nothing to offer. Though I must admit, I do get a laugh out of most every one of your posts. It's too bad your comedy is not by intentional design, but instead just a simple consequence of your tragic demeanor.

June 20, 2012 at 11:11 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

They seem to live in an alternate universe mymy.

I sometimes watch PMSNBC just to keep my enemies close. The first thing I notice is just how uptight and angry they are about EVERYTHING!! They just cannot believe that every man, woman and child does not kneel and adore the god king Obama! Shults is CONSTANTLY pissed off at the world, Maddow just wants to kill everybody who even mentions Obama in a bad light (even when it's the truth), Al Sharpton would think olive producers are racist because the black ones are in a can, Chris Matthews wants to kill republicans because they took the tingle from his leg.

No wonder only three people watch PMSNBC!! They have their man in charge and they're STILL not happy!

June 20, 2012 at 11:17 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

How can BHO exert executive privilege about documents he says he's never seen?

June 20, 2012 at 11:17 a.m.
Salsa said...

Yes. Clay Bennett's cartoon is irrelevant.

June 20, 2012 at 11:20 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Easy is off it's rocker!! Liberals have MSNBC, NBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, etc...! Conservatives have FOXnews. Quit crying!

I watch MSNBC. I bet you NEVER watched FOX!

June 20, 2012 at 11:22 a.m.
mymy said...

TOE: Do the same. That's why those like Easy are LOL funny.

June 20, 2012 at 11:25 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy123: You still getting that BHO tingle running up your leg? Bwahahaha

June 20, 2012 at 11:30 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

That's probably just gas Jack. I heard that tofu and organic milk do that to people. Very gassy stuff.

June 20, 2012 at 11:37 a.m.
chatt_man said...

MSNBC seems to be the one with an accuracy in reporting problem, as they felt the need to omit parts of Romney's statement, and then just kind of brush it off.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/19/msnbc-romney-edit-andrea-mitchell_n_1609298.html

No big deal... it's not like someone edited an Obama statement.

June 20, 2012 at 12:03 p.m.
rogerdodger said...

EaTn said...

Romney....I would hardly consider a CEO who outsourced as many jobs as Romney as irrelevant.

Well let's see there was Bill Clinton with NAFTA and all you act as if he is the best thing since God.

Funny how all these hypocrites are not screaming about Osama protecting Holder like they did when others of the opposing party did the same.

June 20, 2012 at 12:08 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I am looking forward to the day Obama becomes irrelevant!

Maybe The Wart will do a cartoon criticizing his miserable failure of a presidency then.

June 20, 2012 at 12:31 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Same old song and dance from the usual suspects.

June 20, 2012 at 12:32 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

lkeithlu said... "Curious: Why doesn't Romney take credit for the Massachusetts health care?"

Funny you would have to ask that question. Might it be because it does not fit the job he is interviewing for? A conservative (not neocon) can only hope this chameleon can hold his color for a presidential term and that he selects a Vice Presidential candidate that will carry on in the "right" direction.

June 20, 2012 at 12:35 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Does anyone on the left wonder why Holder does not just out the guy responsible for F&F and get this mess over with? Do you just accept the notion that Holder and Obama are responsible and are happy to see the stonewalling? After all, the end always justifies the means with you guys. Right?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06/20/house-republicans-tee-up-imminent-contempt-vote-against-holder/

June 20, 2012 at 12:43 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

People died, Holder lied, Obama sighed, let it slide. -John Wright

June 20, 2012 at 12:54 p.m.
EaTn said...

rogerdodger said...."Well let's see there was Bill Clinton with NAFTA and all you act as if he is the best thing since God.

Funny how all these hypocrites are not screaming about Osama protecting Holder like they did when others of the opposing party did the same."

NAFTA was the biggest screw-up Clinton did in the White House but the right was too tied to it so they used Monica as a smokescreen. As for executive privilege, I believe Bush used that one on Rove if I remember.

June 20, 2012 at 1:07 p.m.
mymy said...

Any way you look at it, June has been a bad month for our Liar in Chief.

His house of cards is starting to fall.

June 20, 2012 at 1:10 p.m.
alprova said...

whatsnottaken wrote: "Beatings of the military brat when he was a child steered him away from any family values."

WTH?

June 20, 2012 at 2:13 p.m.

Holder should resign and Obama should turn over everything Congress asks for? Why shouldn't he? Does he have something to hide?

Obviously.

It's amazing how little respect Obama has for the legislative process and for Congress period.

They're just a nuisance to him.

What arrogance.

June 20, 2012 at 2:14 p.m.
shifarobe said...

Obama and Holder have as much credibility as Jerry Sandusky!

June 20, 2012 at 2:29 p.m.
shifarobe said...

BO and Holder think they can get away with it because they're black.

June 20, 2012 at 2:35 p.m.
alprova said...

mymy surmised: "Eric Holder and Obama just played their last card in Fast and Furious. What are they hiding?"

It's more like, "Screw the Republicans and their stupid, baseless fishing expedition." "Go ahead and hold your silly no-confidence vote."

I think it's a wonderful idea for the Republicans to spend a future exorbitant amount of time seeking to convict Eric Holder of contempt of Congress.

What an incredible waste of time that could and should be used to work on the real issues facing America.

The end result, if, and I do mean if, he is convicted? A $1,000 fine.

June 20, 2012 at 2:51 p.m.

47 minutes. Almost a record.

BTW, Mexican cartels had guns long before Obama was in the White House. Keep telling yourself that they didn't have plenty of sources of firearms.

June 20, 2012 at 3:15 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

alprova: and a resignation

June 20, 2012 at 3:19 p.m.
shifarobe said...

KISSY, KISSY, listen to ALPROVA plant wet kisses on BO'S Photo! What kind of a Christian supports an abortion pushing lawbreakering liar? It's all about being taken care of a big, FAT BABY by the NANNY STATE.

June 20, 2012 at 3:25 p.m.
chatt_man said...

I'm glad to see we agree on something, alprova, I too think it's a wonderful idea for the Republicans to spend a future exorbitant amount of time seeking to convict Eric Holder of contempt of Congress.

Maybe that will expose those two arrogant cover-ups for what they really are, and the administration sure seems to be for all the spending that can be created.

June 20, 2012 at 3:30 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Shif,

"What kind of a Christian supports an abortion pushing lawbreakering liar?"

Obama is a Christian.

So I'll ask you a similar question:

What kind of Christian supports a Mormon over another Christian?

Read the tenets of Mormonism. Then tell me how "Christian" it is.

June 20, 2012 at 3:31 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "It's more like, "Screw the Republicans and their stupid, baseless fishing expedition." "Go ahead and hold your silly no-confidence vote."

I wonder if you would feel that way if it was your son that was gunned down by one of those weapons. Dork.

A gun in the hand of Zimmerman is a big threat to you, but thousands of guns put in the hands of hardened criminals is nothing we should concern ourselves with. You leftists look like idiots.

June 20, 2012 at 3:35 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Easy123 said... "Obama is a Christian."

Of convenience. The real subject of worship for Obama is himself.

June 20, 2012 at 3:37 p.m.
Easy123 said...

BRP,

Of course. A self-proclaimed Christian. And you choose the Mormon.

June 20, 2012 at 3:38 p.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Blonde I like what you're saying but I think King Kenyan is totally transparent. Everything he does is to lure another segment of voters. He's not disguising anything. First gays, then illegals, what's next? Mexico, send us all your narcotraffickers is they can punch a ballot.

June 20, 2012 at 3:39 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Easy123 said... "And you choose the Mormon."

I do? I thought I was a diehard Ron Paul supporter still praying for some kind of weird miracle to happen in Tampa this August... Go figure.

June 20, 2012 at 4:01 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Anti-religious bigotry. How?

June 20, 2012 at 4:14 p.m.
dougmusn said...

@Tu_quoque:

No, my name is not John, nor do I have any Johns in the family. I also try to stay away from ad hominem attacks. You will need a better slur.

June 20, 2012 at 4:16 p.m.
mymy said...

I suspect behind Fast and Furious (run by this administration) was a plan tied to a future agenda on gun control (second terms, of course). Hopefully, the whistle blowers and oversight committee stopped that if nothing else.

O concentrated on Obamacare from the start instead of the economy (well, he did concentrate on policies to destroy it more): get government control over healthcare is big part of the socialist agenda then they have control of you. Disarm us, keep economy weak and more people dependent of BIG O Government, divide and conquer. So on and so on he goes.

Oh, the foolish people who believe what he says, but refuse to consider what he is really doing.

Let’s not get into foreign policy. What a disaster that is for us and the world as a whole, really.

Who is Obama and what is his REAL long range goal? It is not good for any of us, period. His background/environment and people who influenced him is a big clue!

His/democratic base (takers) will always vote for a handout. Hopefully, a lot of the left/independents will see through this and help stop him in Nov.

There is always Hope that there will be a Change in Nov.!

June 20, 2012 at 4:26 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "They had to drag Obama off the golf course when they got Bin Laden! He didn't even know it was happening!"

That is utter B.S.

As early as March 14, 2011, one day short of six weeks before the raid occurred, the President was involved in the planning. He assigned members of the military to draw up several scenarios for attacking the compound where Osama bin Laden was holed up to ultimately take bin Laden dead or alive.

The initial plans were to bomb the compound, but the President, concerned with civilian lives, decided against that. He instead directed military leaders to come up with a plan involving a helicopter raid.

That plan was indeed developed, and several test runs were performed, mainly to see if they could slip in and out of Pakistan without triggering a response by their Air Force.

On April 28, Vice Admiral William H. McRaven addressed and outlined the final plan, stating that the weather in Pakistan was optimal over the next few nights. The President said he wanted to speak directly to Admiral McRaven before he gave the go-ahead.

On April 29, the two men met privately and McRaven assured the President that the mission was sound and that everyone was ready to go. The President then met with his advisers at 8:20 A.M. that same day and the initial plan was for the operation to commence on May 30th.

Due to cloudy weather, General McRaven delayed the mission 24 hours. On May 1, at 1:22 P.M. Washington D.C. time, acting on President Obama's direct order, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, gave the final go-ahead. The President joined national security officials in the Situation Room at around 3:00 P.M. local time, to monitor the raid.

For anyone to suggest that the President knew nothing about the operation is more than laughable. He was involved at every step right up to the final order to go.

If indeed he was playing golf just before the raid took place, which no one has been able to prove, it was with complete knowledge of the timeline involved, with his full knowledge and last minute order to go, and with his knowledge as to exactly what time he needed to be in attendance to watch the events as they unfolded.

You Obama bashers are truly amazing sometimes. The President has every right to rest and relaxation as any of the rest of us. Golf may be his way for winding himself down before having to gear himself back up to deal with stressful situations, in order to keep a level head at such times.

Who are any of you to judge the man?

June 20, 2012 at 4:28 p.m.
mymy said...

Al: all he does is rest, party, play, fund raise (that's not going well as he thought it would so has had to work hard on it) and vacation.

June 20, 2012 at 4:32 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

So Easy. It's ok to NOT vote for someone because of their religion? Is that what you're saying? Hmmm?

June 20, 2012 at 4:42 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Tu,

They're still dead. On Obamas watch.

Jack,

I'm saying you folks are hypocrites. If religion matters to you, you are voting for the non-Christian if you vote for Romney.

June 20, 2012 at 4:49 p.m.
alprova said...

Easy123 wrote: "Mormonism isn't a sect or denomination of Christianity"

I'm going to differ with you on this one.

Opinions are all over the place on the issue, but while Mormons hold differing beliefs from mainstream Christians, they do believe in and honor Jesus Christ.

Their share more with the Protestants, who are often considered outcasts by mainstream Christianity, but Mormons claim themselves to be Christians nonetheless.

Christianity is quite often defined as holding religious belief that there was indeed a Jesus Christ, who walked the Earth at one time, who gave his life so that we all would have eternal life, and that he is the Son of God.

Mormons meet that test.

June 20, 2012 at 4:51 p.m.
alprova said...

mymy wrote: "Easy, you and others should be watching Fox for more informative info."

No thanks. If I need to have my brain washed with extremely slanted and biased views, I'll pop into a local Catholic Church on Sunday.

June 20, 2012 at 4:56 p.m.
mymy said...

I'm not voting on religion, but for someone who is not an enemy of this country. Obama is an enemy of this country. Enough said!

June 20, 2012 at 4:58 p.m.
mymy said...

Al: Your problem is that you are so brain washed you would not know the truth if it slapped you in the face. Dream on you loon.

June 20, 2012 at 5:01 p.m.
alprova said...

Someone who shall remain nameless wrote: "I provided my proof of his position why don't you give some supporting your's."

Easy123 wrote in response: "Read the whole site, including the part that says "about us""

You don't even have to go to that much trouble to debunk that source.

Right at the bottom of the front page, it clearly states, "This site is not paid for or endorsed by any candidate or political campaign."

June 20, 2012 at 5:03 p.m.
alprova said...

Jack_Dennis wrote: "How can BHO exert executive privilege about documents he says he's never seen?"

He did so at the request of Eric Holder, with all reasoning supplied in a letter Holder wrote to the President yesterday.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/06/20/attorney-general-holder-letter-to-president-obama-requesting-executive/

June 20, 2012 at 5:05 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Panel votes to place Holder in contempt of Congress.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/233763-house-panel-votes-to-place-holder-in-contempt-of-congress

It is about time.

June 20, 2012 at 5:07 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy: My question is STILL, what does religion have to do with it? Most of us don't vote based on religion. I'm not getting your hypocrisy angle.

June 20, 2012 at 5:17 p.m.
shifarobe said...

Look at all the desperate looney lefties on here try to spin this into a positive for BO! LOL BARACK MILHOUS OBAMA! A COVER UP IS A COVERUP!!

June 20, 2012 at 5:19 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "Does anyone on the left wonder why Holder does not just out the guy responsible for F&F and get this mess over with?"

They already know who is responsible for F&F. It is the former U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke of Arizona, who resigned on August 30, 2011.

He has not been indicted yet, and has been totally silent on the matter, but he absolutely remains under investigation by the Justice Department.

"Do you just accept the notion that Holder and Obama are responsible and are happy to see the stonewalling?"

You people just don't get it. The Republicans in Congress are on a politically motivated fishing expedition, demanding documentation regarding an active and ongoing investigation being conducted into Fast & Furious by the Justice Department, and they are not entitled to this information, for that very reason.

Their demands are an attempt to usurp the Justice Department's authority and they represent and endangerment of active investigations underway.

June 20, 2012 at 5:22 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Jack,

I was addressing this post by shifarobe:

"What kind of a Christian supports an abortion pushing lawbreakering liar?"

I didn't bring up religion. But many people do vote based on the tenets of their religion and religious beliefs. Abortion, for example, is a big issue among Christians. Many Christians vote against Pro-choice candidates. However, Obama is a self-proclaimed Christian. And Romney is a Mormon. ALRPOVA and I disagree about whether Mormonism is "Christian". I'm of the persuasion that Mormonism is Christian heresy AT BEST. Therefore, it would seem counterintuitive for any Christian to vote against another Christian, if religion was important to you. Which it seemed to be for Shifarobe. But that is just my take.

June 20, 2012 at 5:24 p.m.
dao1980 said...

shifarobe, all I see here is partisan nonsense, blinding generally intelligent folks from the greater truths surrounding our governance.

But hey, who really wants to stare into the void anyways... right?

Go team go!

June 20, 2012 at 5:24 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "I wonder if you would feel that way if it was your son that was gunned down by one of those weapons."

Failed gun running operations extend back to the Bush Administration. The first failed known ATF operation that put guns into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, was named "Operation Wide Receiver," and it began in early 2006 and ran into late 2007.

The Bush Administration Department of Justice made no arrests or indicted a soul.

Another, minor probe was started in 2007, involving the same ATF Phoenix, Arizona field office that is at the center of the Fast & Furious debacle. It was begun when the ATF found that Mexican suspects bought weapons from a Phoenix gun shop over several months.

The investigation involved over 200 guns, a dozen of which were lost in Mexico. On September 27, 2007, ATF agents witnessed suspects buying weapons at the same store and followed them toward the Mexican border.

The ATF contacted the Mexican government when the suspects crossed the border, but Mexican law enforcement were unable to catch them.

Less than two weeks later, on October 6, 2007, William Newell, at that time, ATF's special agent in charge of the Phoenix field division, shut down the operation. No charges were filed.

Newell, who was special agent in charge from June 2006 to May 2011, also played a major role in Operation Fast and Furious.

I have every sympathy for the family of Brian Terry, the Border Control Agent killed by one of the guns found to have been "walked" across the border, but harassing Eric Holder for finite details of an investigation still ongoing, is stupid and it endangers the integrity of such an ongoing investigation, by Republican Congressmen, at the behest of a dead man's family.

"A gun in the hand of Zimmerman is a big threat to you, but thousands of guns put in the hands of hardened criminals is nothing we should concern ourselves with. You leftists look like idiots."

The number of guns lost and suspected to have walked across the border number only into the hundreds, rather than thousands. Still, one gun is one too many.

Whatever you people seem to believe, Eric Holder is not the man responsible for Fast & Furious. He had no knowledge that it was going on at the time, until the rest of us did. Once notified of the ATF's involvement in such an operation, he instituted an investigation into it.

The worst thing he is guilty of, is failing to act immediately upon the first rumor that something was amiss. Given the vast amount of responsibility that the man has in front of him at all times, it's easy to imagine that something every now and then will be missed.

Cut the man some slack. There isn't any of you people who could begin to do the job, but you seem to know it all, sitting there in your armchairs.

Sheesh...

June 20, 2012 at 5:57 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Now here is an idea. Arrest Holder then next time he shows up at the House.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/20/pelosi-rips-holder-contempt-charges-i-could-have-arrested-karl-rove-on-any-given-day/

Nancy says we can do it!

June 20, 2012 at 5:58 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "Cut the man some slack."

Not a chance. You and your ilk have already cut him enough slack to hang himself with.

June 20, 2012 at 6 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "The number of guns lost and suspected to have walked across the border number only into the hundreds, rather than thousands. Still, one gun is one too many."

Only into the hundreds! I did not say that every gun sold under the supervision of F&F went across the border. I suppose you think the ones that are in the hands of criminals in the United States don't count? You work so hard trying to spout drivel that you think makes you look like you know something but you just make yourself look like a mindless partisan robot.

June 20, 2012 at 6:06 p.m.
alprova said...

mymy wrote: "Al: Your problem is that you are so brain washed you would not know the truth if it slapped you in the face. Dream on you loon."

You just keep on believing all that you believe, and don't forget to post all those links to Fox News, you Nazi heifer.

And don't you ever forget that your opinion of me is of no consequence whatsoever. I will continue to stand on and defend facts and truth all day long.

June 20, 2012 at 6:06 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "Panel votes to place Holder in contempt of Congress. It is about time."

Watch and see how far it all goes, before the Republicans chicken out. It will go nowhere.

June 20, 2012 at 6:08 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

mymy wrote: "Al: Your problem is that you are so brain washed you would not know the truth if it slapped you in the face. Dream on you loon."

Thanks for reminding us of that. I grinned in agreement both times I read it.

June 20, 2012 at 6:09 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "Watch and see how far it all goes, before the Republicans chicken out. It will go nowhere."

You may well be right, especially if Obama and Holder are booted to the sidelines in November.

June 20, 2012 at 6:11 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I wonder what raving Marxist the Democrats are going to offer up after Obama burns out.

June 20, 2012 at 6:15 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "Only into the hundreds! I did not say that every gun sold under the supervision of F&F went across the border. I suppose you think the ones that are in the hands of criminals in the United States don't count?"

Can you supply proof to your assertion that any of the guns involved in the Fast & Furious operation did indeed wind up in the hands of domestic criminals?

If so, what are the chances that this occurred as a result of a gun store violating Federal law, rather than any supplying of guns that that found their way into the hands of domestic criminals was at the insistence of the ATF?

You really don't believe the crap you're shoveling, do you?

"You work so hard trying to spout drivel that you think makes you look like you know something but you just make yourself look like a mindless partisan robot."

You have no idea how ironic and hypocritical that statement is, do you?

I think given your history and demeanor in here, I'm on solid footing. Am I partisan? Yes, about 95% of the time. Your average is just about 100%.

June 20, 2012 at 6:24 p.m.
alprova said...

Miss forever alone, you accused me of copying and pasting earlier. Would you be so kind as to point to the source of so much as one sentence I posted that was copied and pasted?

I also took notice of the fact that all of your challenges were never backed up with proof.

If you think that Eric Holder will ever be arrested, then you are so far from reality, that you float up in the clouds. Are you sure that your rusted-out Ford Pinto will make the trip?

Your posts are the true mark of a professional forum troll.

June 20, 2012 at 7:08 p.m.
alprova said...

In response to my request to: "Cut the man some slack."

BRP chimed in with: "Not a chance. You and your ilk have already cut him enough slack to hang himself with."

I hate to burst your bubble, but your decision not to cut him any slack makes no matter, for nothing you post will affect the outcome of whatever goes down.

Nothing I, nor others of my "ilk," have ever stated has caused him "to hang himself."

You obviously think too much of yourself and your abilities to do anything about the situation. So go ahead and puff up your chest, for all the good it will do. You've been running a one-man effort to remove Mr. Bennett from the TFP for several years. How's that working out for you?

The Republicans are going to wind up with egg all over their face when this is all said and done. You'd think they'd learn when to back off.

All they are doing is being elaborately set up for a big round of embarrassment by two men whom a few key Republicans believe belong back in the cotton fields.

June 20, 2012 at 7:24 p.m.
carlB said...

chatt_man said...

carlB - your comments appear "all wet" from your irrogance system. You need to turn it off before you ruin your front yard.

Geezz, and we're supposed to think these people have "relevant" comments. June 20, 2012 at 9:32 a.m. ======== Reply to chatt_man; Thanks, I stand corrected on the spelling of "arrogance." Now that we have the little mistake clarified, will you question and disagree with what the Republicans' tactics and objectives have been? The correct spelling even makes the facts of my statement more forceful without changing the facts.

June 20, 2012 at 7:29 p.m.
carlB said...

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June 20, 2012 at 8:10 p.m.

But but Zach Swamp Jr has such a slick ad with such calls to patriotism and vapid emotion. I just don't think I can resist such a shameless appeal to base instincts.

Why I haven't seen such a thing since Mr . Burns was running for governor. If nobody feeds him a three-eyed fish, he'll be a shoo-in. Unless...Sideshow Bob gets involved.

June 20, 2012 at 9:15 p.m.
mymy said...

Eric Holder lied to Congress, tried every tactic he could come up with to delay. When pushed into a corner Rep. Issa called his bluff. Holder had to ask Obama to use Executive Privilege to try save, I believe, both of them. Obama wrongly used Executive Privilege to try to delay the truth until after the election.

Rep. Issa has an option and I hope he uses it.

http://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-levin/executive-privilege-and-how-the-house-should-move-forward-legally/10150866576635946

June 20, 2012 at 9:42 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

mymy is clearly a double racist.

June 20, 2012 at 9:44 p.m.
mymy said...

Right Jack, it's all about the color or skin not policy and tactics.

June 20, 2012 at 10:10 p.m.
mymy said...

You thought the Founding Father's gave us 3 branches of government. No, there are 4:

The executive, the legislative, the judiciary...and the American people. As Thomas Jefferson once said "should things go wrong at any time, the people will set them to rights by peaceable exercise of their elective rights."

Things are going terribly wrong and let's hope Jefferson was right! Wake up America. "Obama and his single-minded band of leftist are in the process of redistributing everything American: our power, our wealth, our resources, our military and diplomatic advantage, our economic competitiveness, our leadership, our borders, and yes, our unique exceptionalism."

June 20, 2012 at 10:21 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Mymy,

Please tell us what things are going terribly wrong. Your typical Right-wing, "Obama Apocalypse" propaganda is evidence that would point to your psychosis.

June 20, 2012 at 10:30 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

mymy = *

June 20, 2012 at 10:32 p.m.

The frenetic way you try to justify your response is...actually showing how you've got nothing to offer.

No passion so effectually robs the mind of all its powers of acting and reasoning as fear. Edmund Burke.

That's what you want, so we won't think about what you're offering. Thanks for revealing your hand. Much appreciated.

June 20, 2012 at 10:45 p.m.
alprova said...

Mark Levin's digest regarding Executive Privilege aside, the simple fact of the matter is the the documents that Representative Darrel Issa has been demanding and that are central to this entire issue, are among documents that no Congressional Oversight committee has ever had any right to access, especially those involving open and active investigations.

Issa is demanding documents surrounding the current investigation into Fast & Furious, and The Oversight Committee is not entitled to them...period. Holder has repeatedly and publicly stated that he is legally prohibited from honoring Issa's request and subsequent demands. Subpoena's and family concerns of the dead be damned.

In his letter to the President written on Tuesday, requesting him to invoke Executive Privilege, holder stated that the any release of internal executive branch documents would have "significant, damaging consequences."

He added that such releases would, "inhibit the candor of executive branch deliberations in the future and significantly impair the ability of the executive branch to respond independently and effectively to congressional oversight."

Holder goes on to state clearly, that the Justice Department has "already has handed over more than 7,000 pages of records to House investigators and that the remaining material Issa wants could jeopardize future potential criminal prosecutions."

The families of both Brian Terry and ICE Agent Jaime Zapata, murdered in February of 2011, demand and want answers, but are unwilling to wait for the Justice Department investigations to be concluded and the findings released.

All this grandstanding by Republicans will never result in any meaningful hits, nor will it compel Holder or the President to back down. All this crap is about is to plant into the minds of the American public, perceptions of corruption on the part of Eric Holder and now, President Obama.

You mark my word; Once this latest attempt to usurp the legal process of the Fast & Furious open investigation backfires in their face, The Republicans will fold up like a cheap suit, and retreat without an ounce of shame, or repentance.

All that will be remembered by the voters this fall, will be that all of this crap was just another attempt by the Republicans to demean the Democratic Obama Administration.

June 20, 2012 at 11 p.m.
alprova said...

If anyone is not convinced that this is not strictly an election year Republican witch hunt, consider the fact that during all these hearings that are allegedly to get to the bottom of ATF gun running operations, that not so much has one person associated with the Bush Administration -- any of those who were involved in, nor any of those who investigated "Operation Wide Receiver" has been called to testify in front of the Congressional Oversight Committee.

Eric Holder has appeared and testified nine times. He has complied in turning over evidence that he legally was allowed to turn over to the Oversight Committee. He has been publicly threatened repeatedly by Darrel Issa.

Yesterday, he essentially said, "Enough of this crap. Let's make this a Federal case."

And President Obama, being the principled man that he is, and despite any and all political harm that may come his way, said, "Don't worry Mr. Holder. I've got your back."

No Sir and No Madam. No one can accuse President Obama of sacrificing someone to the wolves in order to further or save his political future.

June 20, 2012 at 11:24 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al, why don't you provide the source you took your last post from. Here is the link to what Mark Levin said.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/06/20/mark-levin-executive-privilege-and-how-house-should-move-forward-lega

June 20, 2012 at 11:26 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Al, why don't you provide the source you took your last post from."

Which part? The quotes by Holder from the letter sent to the President can be found here:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/06/20/attorney-general-holder-letter-to-president-obama-requesting-executive/

Congress's Contempt Power and the Enforcement of Congressional Subpoenas: Law, History, Practice, and Procedure can be read here:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34097.pdf

No law enforcement agency throughout the United States releases information regarding open and ongoing investigations. They don't comment on them, refer to details about them, and they sure don't release vital documentation prior to an investigation being closed.

Why would anyone think that the highest law enforcement division in the nation would be required to do so, due to a partisan demand by a Congressional Oversight Committee Chairman on a fishing expedition? He's very close to being destined for the same kind of historical rendering in text books that Joseph McCarthy has written about him.

"Here is the link to what Mark Levin said."

Mark Levin is a low rated Conservative talk show host, who rarely offers thoughts generated from his own brain. He's a Limbaugh groupie, and often mimics topics raised on Limbaugh's programs.

Forgive me, but Mark Levin is hardly qualified to opine confidently on issues surrounding Presidential powers and authority. But that hasn't stopped him from doing so, now has it? All he has done is express an extremely biased opinion, that will never play out the way that he and other partisan hacks hope it will.

June 21, 2012 at 1 a.m.
carlB said...

alprova said... rick1 wrote: "Al, why don't you provide the source you took your last post from."

Which part? The quotes by Holder from the letter sent to the President can be found here:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/06/20/attorney-general-holder-letter-to-president-obama-requesting-executive/

Congress's Contempt Power and the Enforcement of Congressional Subpoenas: Law, History, Practice, and Procedure can be read here:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34097.pdf

Reply to alprova; Thank you. I am proud of your great and INFORMATIVE posts.

The Republicans are not going to compromise and as we see, Darrel Issa is not concerned with the LAWS, he thought he could "bully" his way through the hearing to get Holder to keep giving him all of the material which would never been enough. It was a "farce" of misleading, incomplete information because the never went back to the people who started the "program. Again it was another try to influence the voters with only part of the story.

June 21, 2012 at 7:46 a.m.
degage said...

Bennett is a thief. He should be able to draw his own family cartoon charaters for a smear campaign instead of stealing bil keanes from family circus. TFP should be ashamed for allowing this.

June 21, 2012 at 7:46 a.m.
carlB said...

degage said... Bennett is a thief. He should be able to draw his own family cartoon charaters for a smear campaign instead of stealing bil keanes from family circus. TFP should be ashamed for allowing this. ============= When the opponents of Obama started with their "divide and destroy" they thought it would be the President destroyed, but the voters are keeping some of their "smarts" and did not fall off the cliff with the extremes'. Oncce their plan kept going there was not anyway out,they had to stick to their plans of "finding made up faults" digging themselves deeper and deeper in the hole, beyond the "reach of help."

June 21, 2012 at 8:16 a.m.
degage said...

Carl, I don"t know what you said has anything to do with thievery. Are you trying to say it is alright to use someone elses work? That the ends justify the means?

June 21, 2012 at 8:36 a.m.
alprova said...

I'm quite sure that Mr. Bennett did so with full permission.

June 21, 2012 at 9:26 a.m.
degage said...

Really Alpro? Did you check with Bil Keanes distributor before you made that statement?

June 21, 2012 at 10:13 a.m.
dao1980 said...

I nominate you to do that degage. If it's important to you, the leg-work can be all yours.

June 21, 2012 at 11:06 a.m.
degage said...

I already have, just waiting for an answer.

June 21, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Wait, so you saw a cartoon on a news site, disliked the message, took note of the use of a popular culture reference to another cartoon,... took more offense based on that, and called up the distributor with copyright control? You actually called them to fuss?

June 21, 2012 at 11:31 a.m.
degage said...

e-mail. Why does that bother you so much? What bothers me about him using the family circus charaters is that cartoon has never been political.

June 21, 2012 at 12:36 p.m.
dao1980 said...

Oh, no bother, just interested in the psychology involved in your desire to pursue such a counterproductive, profitless, and arrogant project. If it's part of Clay's job to cover his bum as he goes about his merry way, why would you feel the need to "double-cover" today's rendering in search of some self gratifying "gotcha" moment... that in all likelihood you probably won't find.

I would wager that your motivations to chase this fuss-feeling all the way to B.K.'s "distributor" are similar in basic emotional nature to some of the motivations within the uncompromising partisan conflict that robs us all of appropriate progress into more cooperative times as a country, financially and socially.

I know, I'm back to that old dead horse again.

June 21, 2012 at 2:29 p.m.
carlB said...

degage said... Carl, I don"t know what you said has anything to do with thievery. Are you trying to say it is alright to use someone elses work? That the ends justify the means? =============== Reply to degage; How do you know if Bennett is not the originator of the cartoon? There was not ANY NAMES on the pictures. If there is a copywrite involved I'm sure that somebody will be contacting Mr. Bennett. No, my posts did not mention the characters in the cartoon. Come to think about it maybe every family should get involved in this 2012 election process instead of sitting it out. My posts usually deal with the Republican Characters who are not facing the reality of getting or helping this Republic back in the recovery mode. Instead they have decided on using obstructive means to prevent the reovery and divide the voters by lying and continuing with their misleading and false information. This is the "bigger picture" involving the entire world.
I am sure that Mr Bennett has dealt with your problem before.

June 21, 2012 at 2:35 p.m.

LOL, degage is engaging in a fallacious argument based on ignorant of copyright law and fair-use.

This isn't Michelle Bachmann's use of "American Girl" for her appearances, but a parody, and as such, allowed under Fair Use laws.

If Jeff Keane or King Features Syndicate wanted to sue, they'd just get it dismissed. Or they'd be opening themselves up to lawsuits, as King Features distributes more than a few editorial cartoonists who have probably engaged in the same actions.

And yes, the Family Circus HAS been used before in such form.

Note while they did file suit, the cessation was voluntary, not court ordered, therefore there is no legal precedence established from it. If you do want some legal parody cases, you'll have to go elsewhere.

June 21, 2012 at 8:51 p.m.
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