published Wednesday, March 28th, 2012

Letters to the Editor

GOP hopefuls will need new material

Republican candidates and operatives like Limbaugh have left enough material for the Democratic campaign, without anything new to use against them, through the next election.

When candidates wanted birth control issues to be aimed negatively at the church and religious freedom, it soon became seen as an attack on the rights of women. A student was called a "slut" for testifying that contraceptives should be included with health benefits.

Romney, the political switcher in the past, became current with his flip-flopping in the confines of a day on the Blunt employer contraception bill. On numerous occasions, Romney said that his Massachusetts health care plan would be a model for the nation. Now he denies it.

When gas prices were high in the Bush administration, "fair and balanced" Fox newscasters and pundits proclaimed that no president could do anything about it: "Gas prices are controlled by market forces." What a change of tune! Now a Democratic president is to blame for the high price of gas.

As a consequence of all this and with monthly job and income growth and other positive economic indicators, the candidate Republicans choose will have to be creative in finding grounds on which to campaign.

JOHN BRATTON, Sewanee, Tenn.

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Erlanger in red by serving public

The article by Dr. Clif Cleaveland regarding Erlanger hospital (March 22) on its financial situation hit the nail on the head.

No wonder they were out $82 million for the fiscal year. Whenever an emergency comes up, you will hear on the evening news that they were taken to Erlanger.

Thank you, Dr. Cleaveland, for making the public aware of saving lives and "what if Erlanger vanished."

MARY J. WEST, Soddy-Daisy

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Campers destroyed public property

The next time I camp at Chester Frost Park, I will ask the park ranger to break camp and put my stuff in the car, since they so graciously did that for the people who were destroying public property. This whole thing is absurd. Free speech is not the right to destroy property at the taxpayers' expense.

I wonder what the Times editorial of March 22 would be if that was the tea party occupying the courthouse lawn?

BILL KRAUSE, Ooltewah

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Put phones down to save lives

Phone booth vs. motor vehicle: Texting, facebooking, calling, dialing, are all things that are taking innocent victims these days on our roadways. It is completely ridiculous to me that citizens still ignorantly believe that it is OK to use their phones while driving! Not only is it now illegal in 35 states, it is a preventable death risk.

Why is it so hard for people to lay their phones down while they are behind the wheel?

Citizens need to think when they hear their phone ring, "Is reading or replying to this text worth a life? Is it worth my life?"

Another thing that is completely preposterous, to me, is people who say that it is mainly teenagers and younger citizens who commit the crime. This idea is completely absurd. My boyfriend and I find it sort of a game while we are riding in the car to count the citizens who have one hand on the wheel and one on their phone. We counted five older citizens one day who were committing the crime. It is not just teens, it is everyone.

Citizens, your cars are a form of transportation, not a phone booth! Put down the mobile device and save a life.

CHELSEY STRUTTON

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Put some letters on comic pages

Some of your recently published letters from readers should have been printed in the comic section, not the editorial pages.

LARRY FOSTER

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Add you name to marrow list

In my most recent letter to the Times Free Press, I failed to include an appeal for young adults to sign up for the national Marrow Donor Program. Bone marrow donors are very much needed for people with a wide number of ailments.

I am still urging readers to visit Blood Assurance to donate blood product. When you do come to render your gift of life, you can also sign up and be tested to determine marrow type.

An individual's bone marrow may be the only one listed that is compatible with that of a person who is in desperate need.

HARRY GELLER

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People power is a mixed bag

Our Republican-dominated legislature recently threw dirt at a decades-old United Nations objective : Agenda 21. House Joint Resolution 587 (nonbinding) opposes the U.N.'s effort to halt worldwide pollution of air and water, genocide, and population surges that can only perpetuate poverty.

Well, well, our legislature is subscripted into the national GOP's agenda for re-election of "conservatives." Conservative actually means preservation, adherence to sound principles, risk avoidance, and protection of governmental institutions.

Last week, the "conservative" majority of the Supreme Court voted to favor property rights over the government's responsibility to keep air and water clean and preserve habitats. The court selects its cases, thus it and the GOP seem to collude; influencing uninformed or corrupted voters in November.

Also in the news are efforts to force corporations to pay dividends to stockholders. But, corporations are supposed to pay quarterly dividends; that's how capitalism works. Now, profits are feeding sky-high salaries to top executives.

Has grand larceny become "legal"? In 2001, a local clerk of court, said that a trust's trustee can do anything with the money -- even make personal use and ignore designated recipients.

Where's the solution? People power is a mixed bag.

RACHEL WHEELER

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Story needed on E-Verify bill

I hope that you will also do a story on HR 2885, the E-Verify bill. This is part of a letter from John Duncan Jr. of the 2nd District and why he cannot vote for this bill:

"But H.R. 2885 is a good bill gone bad.

"That's because it guts the rights of states and local municipalities.

"Buried in the bill is a clause that says that states and local jurisdictions can act against businesses that knowingly hire illegal aliens -- after the federal government acts against them.

"If the federal government doesn't act against those businesses, states and municipalities can't.

"H.R. 2885 will actually block states and municipalities from enforcing their own laws punishing businesses that knowingly hire illegal aliens.

"As someone at the forefront of the illegal immigration battle, I don't trust the federal government to do its duty and enforce a new immigration law."

MONA FREEMAN, Calhoun, Ga.

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Republicans can't handle the truth

If you really want the truth about Fox News, go to YouTube, keyword Fox News Lies. You had better pack a lunch, there are over 9,000 results.

While there, check out Sarah Palin's greatest hits. If you still believe she is qualified for president you probably believe Elvis is alive.

I've told a few Republican friends about it, but they can't handle the truth. They have already forgotten how Bush and a Republican Congress led us into a record deficit and the worst economy since the Great Depression. They have forgotten that the stock market was at 6,500 and sinking, that we were losing $700,000 a month, stuck in two wars with no end in sight

With as much Republican obstruction as possible, Obama and the Democrats have doubled the stock market, got us out of Iraq, created more than 200,000 jobs a month the last three months, raised the minimum wage, got equal pay for women, credit card and health care reform, got Osama bin Laden, and saved the American auto industry.

When was the last time a Republican politician did anything for the working class?

STEPHEN BORDERS, Hixson

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Livn4life said...

Thanks Stephen Borders, we all know everything on YouTube and all we see(which vilifies all things conservative)can never be questioned and anyone who questions anything on the left is labeled intolerant, out of touch and well even racist at times. So yeah list all the YouTube, the blogspheres, the websites to denigrate FOX NEWS. Anything on there about them can be verified as being as much true about the "real" media outlets in your view. So who's right, who's wrong? We can all go somewhere to find what we want to hear. But as an old Johnny Cash song once asked, "What is Truth?"

March 28, 2012 at 10:11 a.m.
librul said...

Livn - If you will deny physical reality placed before your own eyes, believe the words out of lying Republican mouths when proven to be the lies they are, and faithfully believe carefully crafted propaganda which offers no factual basis from reality that is not also a carefully crafted fraud, then you are just what your masters of deception in the GOP are looking for - a prime candidate for their corps of brownshirted idiots who salivate at the thought of domination and destruction of our basic freedoms. Maybe, before it's too late, you will realize that what they have you so committed to, is the destruction of the very freedoms you THINK you're fighting for.

"How fortunate for leaders that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler

March 28, 2012 at 10:50 a.m.
EdofTennessee said...

( PART 1 OF 2 ) WHY I AM AGAINST ORGANIZED RELIGION OF TODAY DISCUSSED IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS by Ed Himes

I would like to comment on the attempt to force religion back into our public schools, by the Tennessee government. These southern ladies and gentlemen, who are always trying to glue religion and government together, have missed the whole meaning of the word, FAITH !!!

I do believe in the religion of GOD and JESUS CHRIST and I do this on a personal level through FAITH. However, we all do not believe in religion the same way. In addition, there are some people who do not believe in GOD and JESUS at all and others who believe in someone or something else, besides GOD and JESUS.

Prayer and religion was taken out of school when I was a boy and I WAS EXTREMELY HAPPY; Jumping up and down, with glee in fact !!! WHY ??? Well, because I was being taught about the Bible (in Bible class) by someone who had a different opinion of the Bible than I was being taught at the church I attended and at home. I became very confused at the huge variety of opinions about GOD'S will and after a few years of absolute torture, I lashed out in protest. I told one of the girls in my class (who's father was a Baptist minister), that she was going to hell because she was a Baptist !! I added that unless she became a member of the only true Church of Christ, she would never go to heaven and spend eternity, burning in the fires of Hades !!! This one-sided misunderstood youth revelation of mine, made the girl very upset and she ran home screaming.

This is one of the many reasons I do not believe that discussing religion in a public place is a good idea; especially among young impressionable minds of students at public schools. I realize that everyone has a right to their own opinion, but why would anyone want to discuss church at school or school at church ??? That is like trying to mix oil and water !!! Besides, teaching religion in school has never been proven to keep kids on the "straight and narrow"; in fact, it usually leads to guilt, excessive emotional conflicts, mental illness and harmful criminal behavior. Any reliable Psychologist or Psychiatrist would agree with me I am sure !!!

Students have enough pressure just learning Math, English, History, Computer Sciences and all other necessary subjects to get a good job when they are grown and support their future families. These young learning minds do not need to be saddled with more pressure of trying to decide which religion they would like to believe in and practice, because of the rant by some religious cult at a school assembly !!!

(READ MORE IN PART 2 .....NEXT COMMENT

March 28, 2012 at 3:36 p.m.
EdofTennessee said...

PART 2 OF 2 WHY I AM AGAINST DISCUSSING RELIGION IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS CONTINUED

.........JESUS CHRIST never forced anyone to follow him, listen to him or believe in him or GOD; ...he simply started speaking to a group of people and others gathered until there was a huge crowd. His message was the power, not a law by some state law makers, forcing people to listen. GOD, and any worshipped being, wants a person to believe in them because of faith and faith alone; not because the person is afraid of what might happen to them if they do not listen and believe !!!

JESUS taught privacy and about a personal relationship with God in Matthew 6:1-6, : (NLV) "Watch out! Don't do your good deeds publicly, to be admired by others, for you will lose the reward from your Father in heaven. 2 When you give to someone in need, don't do as the hypocrites do—blowing trumpets in the synagogues and streets to call attention to their acts of charity! I tell you the truth, they have received all the reward they will ever get. 3 But when you give to someone in need, don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. 4 Give your gifts in private, and your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

5 When you pray, don't be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can see them. I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get. 6 But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father in private. Then your Father, who sees everything, will reward you."

I feel this new law concerning prayer and the discussion of religion in public schools, will cause trouble, fighting and encourage hate. It will also start the harassment, degrading and demeaning of others who do not believe as the majority; causing people to become self righteous, judgmental, prejudice and bigoted beyond control.

This has happened MANY times before in history with disastrous results. I am certain that this law will do just that; become a complete disaster, and make our Tennessee public schools a virtual WAR ZONE !!!.

I see a dark and cloudy day coming soon, don't you ???

Sincerely,

Ed Himes, Chattanooga, TN

March 28, 2012 at 3:40 p.m.
EdofTennessee said...

(PART 2 OF 2) WHY I AM AGAINST DISCUSSING RELIGION IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS

CONTINUED.........JESUS CHRIST never forced anyone to follow him, listen to him or believe in him or GOD; ...he simply started speaking to a group of people and others gathered until there was a huge crowd. His message was the power, not a law by some state law makers, forcing people to listen. GOD, and any worshipped being, wants a person to believe in them because of faith and faith alone; not because the person is afraid of what might happen to them if they do not listen and believe !!!

JESUS taught privacy and about a personal relationship with God in Matthew 6:1-6, : (NLV) "Watch out! Don't do your good deeds publicly, to be admired by others, for you will lose the reward from your Father in heaven. 2 When you give to someone in need, don't do as the hypocrites do—blowing trumpets in the synagogues and streets to call attention to their acts of charity! I tell you the truth, they have received all the reward they will ever get. 3 But when you give to someone in need, don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. 4 Give your gifts in private, and your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

5 When you pray, don't be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can see them. I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get. 6 But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father in private. Then your Father, who sees everything, will reward you."

I feel this new law concerning prayer and the discussion of religion in public schools, will cause trouble, fighting and encourage hate. It will also start the harassment, degrading and demeaning of others who do not believe as the majority; causing people to become self righteous, judgmental, prejudice and bigoted beyond control.

This has happened MANY times before in history with disastrous results. I am certain that this law will do just that; become a complete disaster, and make our Tennessee public schools a virtual WAR ZONE !!!.

I see a dark and cloudy day coming soon, don't you ???

Sincerely,

Ed Himes, Chattanooga, TN

March 28, 2012 at 3:56 p.m.
acerigger said...

Thanks for your post Ed! I hope people will read AND understand what you're saying. I believe Jesus followers will "get it".

March 28, 2012 at 11:47 p.m.
Exusiai said...

Ed "JESUS taught privacy and about a personal relationship with God in Matthew 6:1-6, : (NLV) "Watch out! Don't do your good deeds publicly, to be admired by others, for you will lose the reward from your Father in heaven"

Those Bold faced words are the key words in that sentence. Basically that verse translates "Don't do a good deed just for the admiration of the public"

If Jesus was against "Public" performances of his teaching, then he would not have had the sermon on the Mt. Along with the how many other PUBLIC sermons he gave.

But then this goes back to what you said. You read that verse and you read it as "Do your works Privately". I read that verse and I read it the way I mentioned above.

I think that Bible study in schools should be allowed as an ELECTIVE that the student elects to take. For some it may be the only exposure they ever get to it.

March 29, 2012 at 9:46 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

For some it may be the only exposure they ever get to it.

I'm sure that kids will survive if they never get exposed to the bible. It is, after all, just a book to 3/4 of the earth's population.

March 29, 2012 at 11:24 a.m.
JustOneWoman said...

Exusiai said... "I think that Bible study in schools should be allowed as an ELECTIVE that the student elects to take."

It already is in Hamilton County, and has been for some time. My youngest is 19, and he took it twice. Twice we had problems because the teacher is always a Bible thumper, and wouldn't comply with Tennesseee law. Grades were given on how good a "christian" you could portray yourself as. When given the question of academics in the class, they went with the myth instead of what has been proven, such as who were and how many writers in the Pentateuch. It was no more than a sunday school class to them. I gave up fighting them and took my son out of the class. I wrote letters and met with the pricipal. Now because of what Tennessee did this week regarding Religion at schools, we are going to start seeing "other" religions with their own "good news club". It is going to get really interesting. I just hope not violent. Violence over what someone thinks is warped and just rediculous!

They are only interested in passing these laws they know full well are unconstitutional. It will take the budget just to fight for or against, thus bankrupting our states and government. Their agenda is tear this country apart.

March 29, 2012 at 12:21 p.m.
chet123 said...

EXUSIAL....JESUS INTENT WAS NOT ABOUT PRIVACY.....YOU MISS THE POINT....ARE YOU SOUTHERN BAPTIST?????JESUS MAIN POINT WAS HYPOCRISY....DONT BE A SHOW....TO IMPRESS OTHERS....BE GENUIE WITH YOUR PERSONAL PRAYERS.....

DONT TRY TO IMPRESS THE PUBLIC THAT YOU ARE SO RIGHTEOUS.

GO TO YOUR CLOSET AND CONFESS YOUR PERSONAL SINS

AMAZING THE WAY YOU INTERPRETED CHRIST TEACHING ....REALLY AMAZIN

March 30, 2012 at 1:04 p.m.
chet123 said...

THIS IS WHY I OPPOSE TEACHING THE BIBLE IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS....MOST PEOPLE INTERPRET BIBLE SCRIPTURE WRONGLY

ALSO...HOW ABOUT THE STUDENTS THAT MAY BE INTO JUDAISM,HINDUISM,BUDDHISM,CONFUCIANISM, SIKHISM AND ISLAM....THESE ARE MAJOR RELIGIONS!

AS CHRISTIAN YOU AND I DONT AGREE ON CHRISTIANITY TEACHING....FOR HEAVEN SAKE MAN....CANT YOU SEE WHAT HAVOC THIS WILL BRING........I THINK SOUTHERN BAPTIST ARE MAGGOTS....AND IM CHRISTIAN.....REALLY AMAZING

March 30, 2012 at 1:12 p.m.
chet123 said...

DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TALIBAN AND SOUTHERN BAPTIST???

THERE'S NOT ANY DIFFERENCE HA HA HA

March 30, 2012 at 10:25 p.m.
dabbscr said...

CHET123..U ARE A BOLD OUTRIGHT IDIO...T. If you was a Christian as you claimed above, you would not be calling Southern Baptists MAGGOTS. That is not Christian like at all.

March 31, 2012 at 2:38 a.m.
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