published Friday, May 18th, 2012

5 at 10: Friday mailbag

Great questions this week, and some that we’d love to hear your answers on.

From the “Talks entirely too much studios, here we go...

Hey 5@10,

Do you remember when there was only one SportsCenter and it came on at 10:00 every night? Now there’s a continuous SportsCenter on ESPNEWS and SportsCenter on the real ESPN could come on at anytime during the day.

I always thought that Dan Patrick and Keith Olbermann were the best anchors. I can hear Olbermann describing a 3 pointer by saying, “From way downtown — BANG!” I can hear Patrick describing a strikeout by saying, “With the WHIFF.”

Who are some of your past favorite ESPN anchors and what were your favorite catch phrases?


Of course we’re going to have lists here. Multiple lists.

You touched on two of the best — and clearly the best tandem. Patrick and Olbermann were great together, and in addition to the catch phrases you mentioned, Olbermann also had the classically understated, “That’s 6-4-3 if you’re scoring at home... or if you’re by yourself,” and Patrick parlayed “En Fuego” and the rest of his array of witty one-liners into a big-time radio deal with Fox.

They also were the Sunday night tandem that made SportsCenter must-see-TV. Granted, their influence jumpstarted a bunch of pretenders and wannabes, which in some ways begat the mindless junk that fills a lot of the programming and some of the corny and canned stuff that has devalued the SportsCenter franchise.

DP and Olbermann’s rise and its effect on SC is not unlike the underrated-overrated-properly-rated cycle that affects players who are underrated and then described as underrated for so long they become overrated to the point that people think they stink and they settle in with a proper rating. So it goes.

But that’s not DP’s or KO’s fault, and in fact, those two dudes were so money on SportsCenter that you could poll 20 regular ESPN watchers to name their top five SC hosts, and DP and KO would be on 90 percent of the lists. That’s some serious domination right there.

So we’re taking them out of the mix and offer these five as our favorite ESPN anchors with some of their best catch phrases:

1) Craig Kilborn — “It’s the feel good edition.” “He’s not my vydas. He’s not your vydas. He’s Arvydas Sabonis.” “Release. Rotation. Splash.” And a ton of witty turns on the word “love” to “glove” in song titles for good defensive plays in baseball. “Glove me tender.” “Glove... exciting and new. Come aboard.” You get the idea.

2) John Anderson — “He’s running like people are chasing him.”

3) Rich Eisen — “It’s time to play the feud.” “Gaaatttt it.” “He shoots... he scores.”

4) Kenny Mayne — “Obviously, he hasn’t watched Tom Emanski’s “Defensive Drills”. It’s endorsed by Fred McGriff, you know.” “Your puny ballparks are too small to contain my gargantuan blasts! Bring me the finest meats and cheeses of all the land!”

5) Scott Van Pelt — “Useful.”

As you can see we appreciated the anchors who were funny, and each of these dudes was/is seriously funny. Kilborn was so money that you watched the SC replays to see what you missed while laughing at the first thing he said. Anderson is fall-down funny — there’s a reason he’s in most of the commercials (which is a whole other category for a different mailbag) and can be seen on ABC fairly regularly. Eisen replaced Olbermann and joined Patrick and the duo really didn’t miss a beat. Mayne has become a bit of a caricature of himself, but when he was doing SC he was aces. And SVP has the best national radio show in the country.

A couple of catch phrase from not as famous anchors that deserve mentioning: Rece Davis: “See the 3, be the 3.” Chris Myers: “You... you’re not good.” And to be fair, Chris Berman’s schtick at one time was clever and helped create the monster that is ESPN, no matter how boorish his routine has now become.

And since you mentioned them, Olbermann and Patrick deserve their own top-10 lists of catch phrases, and this was harder than any of the above. (And if you think Olbermann and Patrick weren’t the best, know that just about every ESPN anchor has a highlight or two, a catch phrase or three — but OK and DP had an arsenal.)

Olbermann’s 10 best catch phrases:

— That’s 6-4-3 if you’re scoring at home...or if you’re by yourself.

— He puts the biscuit in the basket.

— From way downtown...BANG!

— It’s deep, and I don’t think it’s playable.

— He beats him like a rented goalie!

— He-LLO!

— They’re...not...gonna...get him.

— The other team’s quarterback must go down and must go down hard.

— Full extension!

— A good craftsman doesn’t blame his tools.

Patrick’s 10 best:

— En fuego.

— You can’t stop him, you can only hope to contain him.

— He’s listed as day to day, but, then again, aren’t we all?

—The WHIIIIFFFF! (or The WHIIII... on check swings)

— Gone. (also workded with Good!)

— Golf shots. Nothing but golf shots.

— NOTHING but the bottom of the net

— We’re going to ooooooooovvvvertime.

— Soft as church music.

— Goodbye. Game over. Drive home safely.

PS — Great question, and does anyone have any clue which one we spent entirely too much time on?


From Todd962

I have a suggestion for Friday’s mailbag, but the violence may approach the edge of tolerance for such a nice family based interweb setup as you have here. If you could punch five people in sports, living or deceased, directly in the nose, with no repercussions, who would it be and why?

Great question and one that generated a lot of thought. And this question was passable under the sucker punch rule of a family-oriented, Interweb-based sports column, which is a little known law and to tell the truth we’re not even sure if that’s a law any more.

No. 1 — Mike Tyson. If for no other reason than to be able to say we clocked Tyson and lived to tell about it. And think if we lucked up and knocked him out. It would be Buster Douglas and the 5-at-10. And let’s say that happened, we could be the only person in the free world who would have these two “stop-the-action” party stories — playing Augusta National and knocking out Mike Tyson. Wow. Bring it Tyson.

No. 2 — Bobby Knight. Because he's a bully and a jack-leg and seems like a miserable person who deserves it.

No. 3 — Pete Rose. Simply because he deserves it. He knows he deserves it. We all know he deserves it.

No. 4 — Don King. Because he more than anyone else ruined boxing.

No. 5 — Kyle Busch. Do we even need to explain this one? Plus, you’d become an instant celebrity in the NASCAR world.

This was such a great question we had to leave off Canseco, Clemens, Bonds and the rest of the steroid crowd. Never mind Tiger and the rest. Or Scott Boras.

Wildcard option — Tommy Lasorda. But he has to be with someone, so we can look at his buddy and say, “You and Tommy Lasorda... We hate Tommy Lasorda,” punch him and live out the real-life version of what Chevy Chase did as Irwin M. Fletcher did in “Fletch.” That said, we love Tommy Lasorda and would give him a hug before we gave him a knuckle sammich.


From BiSpy


Isn’t the 5-at-10 approaching an anniversary in Chatt-Vegas? Has it really been 10 years?

I’ll hang up and listen, but congrats.


Yes, the 10-year mark is this weekend. It’s kind of hard to believe to be truthful about it. We planned to come to Chattanooga for a few years, work hard and bounce to a monster paper. But we met the Mrs. 5-at-10 at the TFP, got hitched, had some tots and the rest is history.

It’s been a fun ride, filled with great co-workers and chances to work with countless top-notch folks here.

Don’t really know what else to say other than thank you — to everyone. We were thinking about doing a list of top moments, but there really are too many to name.

Thanks for remembering and thanks to you and the rest of the regulars that swing by here — this has become one of the most enjoyable parts of our day.


From Fred

Mr. 5-at-10, I wanted to say thanks for the Braves tickets -- we had a blast.

You mentioned earlier this week about baseball changing its rules and making the fake-to-third-look-at-first pickoff move illegal. Why are they doing this and what other rules in sports need to be changed?

Thanks and keep up the good work.


Glad to hear you enjoyed the game. Excellent.

That was an interesting story about eliminating the tried-and-true-still-hasn’t-worked pick-off play where the pitcher fakes the throw to third and spins and looks at first. We are in support of the change, and since we spent like 2,000 words on ESPN, we’re going to move quickly here. Here’s a top five in 10 words or less (the soon to be copyrighted 5-in-10 by the 5-at-10):

1) “Half the distance to the goal” — Move it to the inch line; fair is fair.

2) College’s 15-yard defensive pass interference — Spot of foul penalty; rewards rule-breaking

3) Enforce the strike zone — the REAL strike zone

4) Offsides in soccer and hockey — Some would call this strategery

5) MLB All-Star game deciding home-field for the World Series — no explanation necessary



I heard you on SportTalk on Thursday. You do pretty good on the radio.

You and Quake were talking about LT selling his Super Bowl ring, and you said something about LT being one of the players that changed the game then you had to go. What did you mean “change the game” and who else changed the NFL? Not sure I think LT was a game-changer but want to hear why you think that?


Thanks for stopping by and feel free to swing by anytime.

As we said before, we’re approaching the TFP’s bandwidth so we’re moving quickly.

Today’s NFL game has been shaped and molded by two overpowering forces: the ungodly talented football men who do amazing things and the rules of the league that have turned it into a pass-happy sport that is the nation’s most popular.

The rules are debatable, but here are the five people that changed the sport into the modern-day NFL:

Bill Walsh: His passing genius put the 49ers on the path to Super Bowl glory and caused the rest of the league to try to catch up. And his coaching tree is sickeningly scary. Trust on this. Plus, his use of Jerry Rice — a bigger wideout running quick slants — and quick-strike attacks and combo routes have shaped the modern passing game.

Lawrence Taylor: LT has become a train wreck in his days since football, but on the field he was simply a train. Unstoppable, and he showed the best way to slow down a great quarterback was get him looking over his shoulder and running for his life.

Deion Sanders: The first true shutdown corner. When Deion was drafted in the top 5 by the Falcons everyone thought, “What? A cornerback in the top 10?” Now its commonplace.

Tony Gonzalez: This wave is really only starting to spread like wildfire, but pass-cathing, athletic tight ends are the rage right now, and it started with Tony.

Thurman Thomas: An everydown running back — except when forgets his helmet in the Super Bowl — who was the team’s second-best wide receiver. He was the exclamation point on the move to versatility over durability at running back.

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deboman said...

5 for fighting- or punching as the question alludes to, would be a mixed bag for sure.

  • Love the Don King call, his smiling mug is the first one that came to mind. The man just oozed of sleaziness and took advantage of a lot of fighters.

  • Buddy Ryan would be right up there too. Smart football guy, horrible people skills, just ask Kevin Gilbride. Plus, if it wasn’t for him, we wouldn’t have Rex and Rob.

  • Steve Spurrier. Just because…and I would stomp on his stupid visor where it lay.

  • Allen Iverson could use a good knuckle sandwich. For all the things that people did for him, I just don’t think he ever got how lucky he was to play a game for a living.

  • Michael Vick, no explanation needed.

May 18, 2012 at 10:48 a.m.
Stewwie said...

[2) College’s 15-yard pass defensive interference — Spot of foul penalty; rewards rule-breaking]

I like the rule in the NFL. However, for college, I'm a little hesitant to support it only because the spot foul could be a huge call for the sometimes-questionable college ref to make. I feel more comfortable with NFL refs making the right call in those situations, but not so much with college refs. Is this a legit concern or am I exaggerating?

Congrats on the 10-year anniversary with the TFP. The Sports section is really great and this blog is also one the "funnest" parts of my day. Lots of fun to read and discuss. Keep up the good work!

May 18, 2012 at 10:49 a.m.
eastridge8 said...

Lane Kiffin is who I'd like to punch-out...TOTAL JERK!

And Congrats on the 10 yr. anniversary!

May 18, 2012 at 11:25 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Deboman —

Vick is a strong call, and we're remiss that we didn't mention Buddy Ryan — although the Ryan clan could fill three slots. And someone named Ryan could fill 80 percent of Robin Ventura's list.

Do Stew believe in love —

Fair point, but there should never be a rule that allows a violator an advantage by breaking said rule. Well, except in NASCAR and pro 'rastlin' and in those cases, if you ain;t cheatin' you ain't tryin'.

ER8 —

Kiffin was the toughest one to omit. In fact, we had Kiffin No. 4, but flipped and went with Don King.

It's been a quick and fun 10 years. No doubt about it.

— 5-at-10

May 18, 2012 at 11:32 a.m.
Todd962 said...

FootballFan, LT's game changing capabilites can be explained best by probably asking Joe Theismann's Tibia and Fibula what they were doing during the mid-80's. Then go watch The Blindside.

Ooo Fiver, you have some very punchable faces on your list there. Taking a swing at Tyson with out repercussions would be nice, that way you dont have to worry about him eating any of your babies. I had a little bit different list.

5)Michael and Bruce Buffer. Yes Mike, I was ready to rumble. You clearly were not from the looks of your now busted nose. And Bruce, quit mooching off your cousin and stop yelling at everybody.

4)Cristiano Ronaldo. If flops and dives were a measured facet of any game this soccer punk is the poster child. He dated Paris Hilton and she put a voodoo hex on him. I think he deserves an extra punch for telling everyone the reason people hate him is because he is good looking and talented. No everyone hates you because you say things like that.

3)Carlos Zambrano. Your job is to throw strikes and pitch baseballs. Not throw tantrums and pitch fits. Face punch!

2)Drew Rosenhaus. I went with Rosenhaus in place of Boras. These guys are everything that is wrong with professional sports today. Greed has taken over everywhere and they are the ones pulling the strings. And stay out of the ESPN cafeteria, I want my SC commercials to have more Red Devils in the elevators and Penguins adjusting the thermostat, not you.

1)Sandusky. Face punch, groin kick.

Funny story. Chuck Liddell walked into a bar in Florida years ago that I happened to be in. He towed with him a lovely lady on each arm. Two brave fools who apparently had Chuck on their top five were looking to seize this once in a lifetime opportunity to take a swing at him. Either they had forgotten to run the no repercussions aspect past Chuck or were two drunk to care, but he promptly clocked their heads against one another and was kindly asked to leave by security. It was a magical moment.

May 18, 2012 at 11:38 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Mr. 962 —

Great question, by the way.

And we're stunned that we didn't have Sandusky. Simply a massive, Massive, MASSIVE oversight on our part. (Harvey Updyke, too. We needed 10 names to be frank about it.)

Great paragraph on Rosenhaus, who gets points subtracted for being the real-life Jerry McGuire. At least we all know Boras is a snake. Rosenhaus is a snake posing as a good guy, and instead of Tom Cruise playin him in the movie they need a pompous, young James Spader or even a whiny Andrew McCarthey.

Love the Liddell story. In our days of bar-hopping and fight-chasing, our biggest worry was crossing a 125-pound Gold Gloves champ from San Salvador who would hit us 13 times before we put down our Bud Light. Those dudes should have recognized Liddell. But there's no cure for stupid.

— 5-at-10

May 18, 2012 at 11:48 a.m.
deboman said...

Todd- Better be quick with that shot at Ronaldo. Chances are he will be rolling around on the ground holding his shin before you even get a chance to throw.

Sandusky and Peters would require something with a bit more 'punch' than a fist.

May 18, 2012 at 12:36 p.m.
memphisexile said...

Been a while since I commented due to that pesky job I have sucking up all my time, however I had to today. Love the Fletch reference. While Fletch was certainly superior, the whenever I think of that movie I think of Fletch Lives and the pink Cadillac with no brakes. Always good for a laugh, especially while waiting for quitting time.

May 18, 2012 at 1:29 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

Holy National Championship Game, Batman! This will be sweet, if they ever play. The Big 12 and SEC Champs should play every year anyway. These are the two best conferences in the country for the last two to three years, and the Big Ten and the Pac 12 are the other two good ones. This sets up a four team playoff every year, if they just wanted to do this, except for if one of them is not in the Top 6, then you can drop that one and replace it with the highest ranked remaining team.

May 18, 2012 at 1:29 p.m.
memphisexile said...

Also, I would punch Blake Griffin and Chris Paul for all the diving. And Roger Goodell, that guy is a tyrant.

May 18, 2012 at 1:30 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Deboman —

Nice. And Memphisexile touched on this, all this flopping and taking dives deserves a nose punch (and if not a full blown nose punch, certainly a frog to the arm or a good locker room towel pop).

Still can't believe we left Sandusky off the list.

Exile —

Welcome back. And yes Fletch Lives is underappreciated somewhat because all of us who loved Fletch so much has such high hopes for it. (The pink Caddie is great and the scenes with the televangelist — T'boo, Peter Lemonjello, etc. — are stellar.)

Stuck —

This is a game-changer, no doubt. It's obvious the SEC and the Big 12 are joining forces to rule the college football world.

— 5-at-10

May 18, 2012 at 1:36 p.m.
Todd962 said...

We always talk at work about what would happen if you went to a bar and got in a fight with one of the UFC fighters that look like a librarian's assistant. Would it be more humiliating getting your tail kicked like that in public or having to have someone help you wipe yourself for the next week after they got done with you.

Funny gold glove story. Had a friend went into the Marines. Bad dude. His platoon, or group what have you, gets challenged to a "toe on the line" boxing match against one of the other groups. So Eric's group selects him as their contestant and the others select this skinny little kid from New York as theirs. Eric is filled with glee as he predicts himself pounding the crud out of this little fella, that is up until it was revealed to him, as he puts his toe on the line, that bones is a gold glove boxer(GBB). Eric said he would guard his head, GBB would wear out his stomach, Eric drops his guard to his stomach, GBB wears out his head, and repeat. Eric would draw back to throw a ko punch, guy would pop back like a weeble wobble and go back to wearing on his head. By the end of it Eric said he had attempted to throw about four haymakers and was looking out his ear hole wondering what the hell had just happened.

Which brings us to our final point, and some of the greatest advice we ever received. Dont fight ugly people. They have nothing to lose.

May 18, 2012 at 2:01 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Mr. 962 —

Great story, and that was our biggest fear. Some dude the size of Tattoo from Fantasy Island works you like a part-time job, and regardless if said dude was the 125-pound national champ of Mexico, we'd still have been walloped by some 1215 pound dude.

And if your buddies growing up were anything like ours, there is no, No, NO living down a whipping from some 125 pound dude when your our size (6-4, 215).

And gotta say, love the line about "Don't fight ugly people, they have nothing to lose." That ranks up there high on the "If your country-wise granddad wrote fortune cookies" meter.

— 5-at-10

May 18, 2012 at 2:10 p.m.
Todd962 said...

Sandusky certainly has more than a punch coming to him, in this life or the next. Lets hope its less clowns forcing you to eat cole slaw while moving furniture, and more like a jail cell shared with some of those nice gentleman that Ving Rhames references at the end of Pulp Fiction.

May 18, 2012 at 2:11 p.m.
Todd962 said...

We'll need to make up for all the violence this week with five people in sports that need a hug next week.

Me: "Its not your fault." Scott Norwood: "I know. Its not a big deal." Me: "No Scott. Its not your fault." Scott Norwood: "Not you man. Dont do this." Me: "Its not your fault."

Firm embrace. End scene.

May 18, 2012 at 2:21 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Mr. 962 —

Wow, heading into the weekend with some movie magic. And before you go all medieval on anyone and before somebody has to go see about a girl, remember — Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.

For those of you finishing off your work day, how about a quick fire underrated/overrated:

Bruce Willis — underrated/overrated

J-Lo — underrated/overrated

A-Rod — overrated/underrated


— 5-at-10

May 18, 2012 at 2:49 p.m.
mcpell3 said...

Strong mailbag and good responses. Sandusky deserves more than a punch...I'd left him off the list on that technicality. Bruce Willis — definitely underrated J-Lo — hugely overrated as a singer/actor/reality judge A-Rod — overrated in his later years - carried and protected in the lineup. Still a heckuva ballplayer though

May 18, 2012 at 3:01 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Bruce? Underrated.

J-Lo? Overrated.

A-Fraud? Really. Do you even have to ask me where I stand on this?

Face punch candidates (in honor of Paul Johnson's great quote, "if you don't like what they say, punch em in the face." I hate he gave up Copenhagen.)

Ulf Samuelsson (this one's for you, Driver 8)

Bill Laimbeer (like I'm the only one who wants to do this?)

The ref in the 72 gold medal men's basketball game.

The (blank) who tried to set the flag on fire in center field before Rick Monday swooped in. Maybe one of the most underrated moments in sports history.

Bucky Dent.

5, I was thinking about other great debut albums and forgot completely about Walton High's own Robinson Brothers and The Black Crowes. Saw them at the Om-uh-ni (thank you, Stardust, The American Dream), the night they got fired as the opening act on ZZ Top's tour. It really was a bad set, but that's not why they got the boot, and the only redeeming quality was bringing out Lenny Kravitz for a cover of "Come Together."

But I saw them a couple of months later at the acoustically perfect Johnny Mercer Theater in Savannah and they kicked backside. I told the friends I saw the Crowes with in Atlanta that they had to go see them again. Eventually, they followed me advice and they said every show they've seen since has been righteous, particularly one in Athens that lasted only 45 minutes before the fire marshal shut it down. But it was 45 minutes of absolute, unadulterated backside-kicking rock n roll.

May 18, 2012 at 3:06 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

I once had an idea for movie and was thinking of a script. It was really based on the actors to be in it. Mike Madsen. James Spader. James Woods. Maybe Christian Slater or Edward Norton. You know, guys who just seemed so good at playing bodily exit ramps. And write a screenplay that had each one, in character, trying to out-bodily exit ramp the other throughout. And then at the end, Kevin Spacey gets up and walks out and Chazz Palmentieri realizes he made the whole thing up.

May 18, 2012 at 3:20 p.m.
jgreeson said...

McPell —

Thanks. And we concur with your overrated/underrated across the board.

Spy —

Surprised BVG is not on your list. And when did PJ give up the smokeless gold that is Copenhagen? Crud, if he quit it and the 5-at-10 quit it, they must have laid off 100 workers in the last year.

Great call on Monday. And we could have guessed you were going to say Bucky Dent (and we appreciate you leaving his unofficial Red Sox middle name off since we're a family-oriented, Interweb-based sports column and all.)

Black Crowes is a strong call. And while we aspired to be a starting pitcher for the Dodgers or a shooting guard for the Celtics, dude, musicians get some mighty fine perks. How else does some drug-addled yahoo like Chris Robinson land Kate Hudson? Anyone? Bueller?

Three more overrated/underrated options:

Dewyane Wade?

Kristen Wiig?

Eli Manning?


— 5-at-10

May 18, 2012 at 3:27 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

5, we've exorcised the mustachioed demon that is BVG from our memories with back to back semifinals appearances. 2006 (and yes, I'm starting a sentence with a number. Tell Shirtless not to have a conniption) did not happen. The entire year has been thrown into the great void.

May 18, 2012 at 3:35 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

Bruce Willis- underrated. J-Lo- Overrated. A-Rod- Does just "rated" count? Dewayne Wade- Underrated for years and years. Probably slightly overrated now. Kristed Wiig- Overrated. Eli Manning- Right now, the hysteria has calmed down, so I'd go with "rated." Pre-Super Bowl this year and just after the Super Bowl, way overrated. People said two Super Bowl rings to Peyton's one and he's the better Manning. So every stat, including regular season won-loss record, gets thrown out for ONE game? Both have been to two Super Bowls, Peyton won one and Eli won two. Want to know how many total points the Giants have in those two Super Bowls? 38. Want to know how many total points the Colts have in their two Super Bowls? 46. One Super Bowl does not make Eli better than Peyton. Know who else has one more ring than someone? Robert Horry has seven rings and Michael Jordan has six. Is Horry better than Jordan for winning one more title? Really? Does anyone really want to go there? Would you take Horry over LeBron? Charles Barkley? Karl Malone? John Stockton? Dewayne Wade? Kobe Bryant? Shaquille O'Neal? Hakeem Olajuwon? Patrick Ewing? Where does the madness end! It just doesn't make sense to compare people based on how many titles they win solely, especially when the only difference is one Super Bowl, and when both have been to the same number of Super Bowls, and the guy with the worse record has actually had his team score more points than the guy with the better record. AND I'm an Eli fan who roots for his team whenever one of my main teams is not involved. And one of my main teams is not the Colts or the Broncos.

May 18, 2012 at 4:02 p.m.
deboman said...

Bruce Willis-def underrated. JLO-way overrated. A-Rod-Overhyped.

D Wade- underrated, he def stirs the drink.
Kristen Wiig- underrated (esp. since I couldn't remember who she was at first), girl is downright funny . Eli-overrated, Kazoo is trading on the family name. He's lucky he had some receivers make some outlandish catches or he would be ringless.

Compliance training---way overrated...ugh!

May 18, 2012 at 4:32 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Of course, 5, when it comes to the over/under rating on Kristen Wiig at Casa del 5 at 10, isn't the most important opinion that of Mrs. 5?

May 18, 2012 at 4:49 p.m.
jgreeson said...

StuckinKent —

We get the gist of your argument, and we understand it, but that debate is out the window when it comes to quarterbacks. And it's not like Eli Manning was playing with the late 1970s Steelers.

Who is the best NY Giants player other Manning? Victor Cruz?

Deboman —

Compliance training is way, Way, WAY overrated.

Spy —

We're speaking of these folks' talent... not talent. You know. We think Mrs. Wiig is actually pretty funny. One of the few remaining lights on SNL, which of course means she'll leave this summer. Man, SNL... that's a topic for a whole other day.

Three more, overrated/underrated Beantown edition:

Big Papi

Ray Allen

Mark Wahlberg

May 18, 2012 at 5:06 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Big Papi. Underrated. 04 isn't 04 without Big Papi. And he was the first Red Sox player since Double X, Jimmy Foxx, to hit 50 bombs in one year. Plus, right now, he is killing lefty pitching. Killing it.

Ray Allen. Probably properly rated. Injuries and age are starting to slow him down more than it has The Truth and The Ticket. But he's got the purest shooting stroke in white and green since Jerry Sichting.

Mark Wahlberg. A little - just a little - overrated. Not many memorable movie roles, other than Boogie Nights. Besides, my cousins have a picture of Donnie, not Mark, eating cereal at their kitchen table from about 35-40 years ago. The Wahlbergs lived around the corner from my cousins in Dorchester.

May 18, 2012 at 5:21 p.m.
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