published Thursday, May 31st, 2012

The Newlyweds

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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moonpie said...

Reluctant bride.

Thanks GOP for nomitting a RINO.

Best we libs could have hoped for.

Woo hoo!

Come November we win, or we win bigger!

May 31, 2012 at 12:10 a.m.

They're not wearing shoulder belts.

Better hope that's a vintage car, or they'll get in trouble!

Oh who am I kidding, Mitt's aiming for the cliff, he's using Bush's GPS.

May 31, 2012 at 12:12 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Bennett is an oppressive bore, unless you are a mindless leftist who needs a dim witted cartoonist for your political cues.

May 31, 2012 at 12:13 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

This guy really is an idiot. A perfect leader for the left.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/obama-nazi-death-camp-gaffe-hurt-poles-pm-110505006.html

May 31, 2012 at 12:20 a.m.
Easy123 said...

That's not a very big mistake. The camps were in Poland. Maybe you are the idiot for thinking that's a big deal.

May 31, 2012 at 12:24 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Easy123. Might be a BFD is you're a Pole. It was a defeated and occupied country, you idgit.

May 31, 2012 at 12:33 a.m.
Easy123 said...

And? The camps were in Poland. Obama didn't say "The Polish Government Death Camps". It is an easy mistake to make. The White House apologized for it. What should Obama do? Apologize again? You conservatives hate when he apologizes for things America has done!

May 31, 2012 at 12:39 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

THAT WAS REALLY FUNNY

Happy with new bulbs, commenting on clay's honeymoon cartoon, wrote:

"Mitt's aiming for the cliff, he's using Bush's GPS."

That was funny. Why can't you humorless tea baggers ever write something funny?

Angry is not funny. Negative isn't funny either. Some of you seem to think that name calling is funny.

Anyway, thanks for the laugh, new bulbs.

May 31, 2012 at 1:03 a.m.
Easy123 said...

tu,

You mean SUPPORTER. Not supporters.

Personally, I know several Republicans that are choosing not to vote in this election because they cannot consciously vote for a tool like Romney.

May 31, 2012 at 1:10 a.m.
fairmon said...

The marriage may never be consummated.

May 31, 2012 at 1:11 a.m.
Easy123 said...

euqouq_ut,

When you make a claim about multiple supporters leaving the Obama camp, you need to provide multiple examples Like when you made the claim for Obama losing supporters (plural) and then only cited an example of one person (not more than one as would be necessary to make your claim have any merit). Therefore, your claim has yet to be proved.

I don't know how I would back that claim up unless they each came on here and wrote it themselves. You can believe me or not. I don't necessarily have a reason to lie considering nothing is at stake and you have already made a terrible argument for your own case but you have the right to believe what you want.

And, as always, no one ever gives your comments or claims any consideration because they are usually false or nonsensical. You are good at making up stupid names to address the other posters with. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

May 31, 2012 at 1:36 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

YOU WOULDN'T KNOW HUMOR IF IT BEAT YOU OVER THE HEAD

Too cute, bless your little heart, spewed out a phrase you've been repeating over and over on this site for what seems like years. May have chuckled the first time I read it but you clearly need to get new material.

AND THE BEST PART? The fact that you consider yourself a humorist, while simultaneously sad and shocking, is actually hilareous! Thanks for brightening my morning, honey.

May 31, 2012 at 1:58 a.m.
Easy123 said...

You mentioned 2 but only gave evidence for 1. But just like most idiots, you can't add.

As opposed to coming up with stupid additions to everyone elses name like you do? It is original. Not necessarily witty. Your sarcasm is only half correct.

May 31, 2012 at 2:04 a.m.
EaTn said...

I'm glad Mitt got the nomination but for folks in Tennessee it doesn't matter one way or the other. The state will go GOP in November regardless of who's running on their ticket, yet we will still have to endure the endless negative ads. The existing system means that only the voters in a few states will really choose the president, so I predict a lot of voters will apathetically stay home.

May 31, 2012 at 7 a.m.
hotdiggity said...

Dang, the only thing missing from the cartoon is a dog carrier on top of the car.

May 31, 2012 at 7:37 a.m.
hotdiggity said...

C'mon conservatives, instead of the incessant whining about Obama let's see some support for your candidate.

Instead of goose stepping to the Fox News mantra perhaps you could spend some time addressing the virtues of Mr. Romney. Show where he stands,(stood), on the issues.

Perhaps you can extol the virtue of his support of the individual mandate and his health care policy? Pontificate on his record of being 47th out of 50 in job creation. Perhaps you could delve into his flip flops? And gracious, what is this magical underwear thingie about? http://mittromneysflipflops.com/

May 31, 2012 at 8:01 a.m.
eeeeeek said...

hotdiggity said... "Dang, the only thing missing from the cartoon is a dog carrier on top of the car."

The dog is driving this time... nudge nudge

May 31, 2012 at 8:16 a.m.
davisss13 said...

BigRidgePatriot said... Bennett is an oppressive bore, unless you are a mindless leftist who needs a dim witted cartoonist for your political cues.

Mindless leftist? HA! Not even close. You, however, are a braying ass little punk who can't stand an opinion other than yours, especially when it's right.

May 31, 2012 at 8:42 a.m.
davisss13 said...

Jesus, this tu_quoque said clown is a twisted little bastige, ain't he?

May 31, 2012 at 8:44 a.m.
hotdiggity said...

This cartoon reminds me of the Readers Digest articles "Can This Marriage Be Saved"?

When you ask conservatives to voice their support for Romney the silence is deafening.

Someone cue the sound of crickets chirping.

May 31, 2012 at 8:51 a.m.
davisss13 said...

I wonder if an evangelical Christian Republican will abandon his faith and vote for a high priest of what was previously considered a cult. Vote for the Christian, Obama or the false prophet Romney?

Now we see just how serious these so-called 'morals and values advocates are about their faith.

May 31, 2012 at 8:51 a.m.
joneses said...

Of course Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney is the GOP nominee. I think a better cartoon would be saying Hussein Obama is married to the communist party. That is more obvious than Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney being a member to the GOP.

Does America Have its first Marxist President?  You bet it does and Here’s the Verification:  9 June 2009 © www.BarackObamaWebPage.com  Founded in 1992, the New Party is a Marxist political coalition whose objective is to endorse and elect leftist public officials - most often Democrats. The New Party’s immediate objective is to turn the Democrat Party hard left, in an attempt to create a new Marxist party. Most New Party members come from the Democratic Socialists of America, the hard left organization ACORN and an assortment of Maoists, Trotskyites, and Communist Party USA members.  It was very active in Chicago, with membership including none other than BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA. Since his ascent to prominence, there have been attempts at “scrubbing” New Party references of Obama having been a member or their even having provided support in his early elections.  But thanks to a concerned reader of www.BarackObamaWebPage.com, we have obtained archival material proving that Barack Hussein Obama is the first Marxist Socialist President of the United States. The adoring mainstream press has worked feverishly to cover up Obama's dedication to Marxist ideology going back to his teenage years.  But substantiation of New Party membership can be seen by the following documents in pdf format. 

May 31, 2012 at 8:54 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

This cartoon is typical of The Wart's work these days. No substance, just a partisan poke that gets his sheep all wound up.

May 31, 2012 at 9:09 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

No substance, just a partisan poke that gets his sheep all wound up.

And yet, the only ones who get wound up are those like you.

May 31, 2012 at 9:12 a.m.
davisss13 said...

communist. COmmunist. COMMUNIST!!!!!

lol. What a moron.

May 31, 2012 at 9:20 a.m.
timbo said...

Another dumb cartoon.....What you liberals don't get is that most of us conservatives would vote for a pet rock before Barack Obama. Are we happy with Romney? ...Not that much but look at the alternative. That is a know nothing, big spending, green loving, European socialist.

Most of the polls can't be trusted and I think Romney will kick the community organizer's butt.

May 31, 2012 at 9:42 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Timbo,

Once again, making up your own reality and believing it as truth.

May 31, 2012 at 9:49 a.m.
davisss13 said...

Republicans, I don't like calling them conservatives because they aren't... want the United States to fail spectacularly under Obama. They absolutely hate the US government, and want it and the world to crash and burn so they can pick up the pieces and rebuild it according to their twisted dreams.

By the way, how does it feel to be the party that legalized torture and lowered the level of human rights around the world? Not many Americans can lay claim to that. The fact you call yourselves Christians adds even more to the tragic irony.

THAT is what religious manipulation gets you. Bloodthirsty zealots willing to say and do anything for their party.

Christian morals and family values? WHERE?

May 31, 2012 at 9:52 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Obama supporters are dropping like flies. It looks like even Romney can get elected over the Amature and Chief.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-artur-davis-former-prominent-obama-backer-leaves-democratic-party-20120530,0,269770.story

May 31, 2012 at 9:52 a.m.
Easy123 said...

BRP,

SUPPORTER (singular). Not supporters (plural). One person left the democratic party. That doesn't equate to "Obama supporters dropping like flies". Learn how to read. And add.

May 31, 2012 at 9:56 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

The next time you hear Obama talking about freedom, just remember that his definition of freedom is Marxism/socialism. Those, darn libtards, always misusing words to hide their true intent.

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/05/29/obama-awards-medal-of-freedom-to-democratic-socialists-of-america-chair/

May 31, 2012 at 10 a.m.
davisss13 said...

How many moderates, aka RINOs, traitors, baby killers, communists, ect, have left/been driven from the GOP?

If they weren't masters of the big lie, propaganda, religious manipulation, racial division and stealing elections they wouldn't stand a chance.

May 31, 2012 at 10:02 a.m.
davisss13 said...

just remember that his definition of freedom is Marxism/socialism.

Seriously? Marxism? Socialism? It didn't work last time and it won't work now.

Stay the course, moron. lol.

May 31, 2012 at 10:04 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Davissss: Hard to imagine anyone on here more FOS than you, sir.

May 31, 2012 at 10:05 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Lol. The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming!

Republicans,

Do you really believe all the crap that you say?

May 31, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

NYC bans "large sugary drinks". Now there's some terrific governance.

May 31, 2012 at 10:29 a.m.
jesse said...

het nooga? i thought you said you had a "12 ft. alferd e newman"!!!

that sounds more appropriate!

you shot any more 76's at bear trace lately? lol!

May 31, 2012 at 1:53 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Tu_quoque: And the guy was wearing a wife-beater.

May 31, 2012 at 2:56 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Timbo says "What you liberals don't get is that most of us conservatives would vote for a pet rock...."

You did, he was called GW. C'mon conservatives lets see a little more support for Mitt instead of your pet rocks.

Conservatives have always seemed to have a fetish for a persons supposed religious beliefs. Wonder why they have hardly vetted Mitt's beliefs?? T heir history of polygamy? Racial bias? Kolob? Golden tablets? No belief in the Immaculate Conception? Jesus in America? Native Americans as a lost tribe from Israel? Joseph Smith a convicted con man? Joseph Smith told to start his religion because all other religions were false religions? Magical underwear?

C'mon conservatives, lots to investigate here. Maybe Andrew can get the ball rolling. Here you go. You can start your research here... http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons

May 31, 2012 at 3:10 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

The only talk I hear about religion is from the left. Curious.

May 31, 2012 at 3:27 p.m.

Man and wife is good for procreation. Let's get it on!

May 31, 2012 at 3:38 p.m.
jesse said...

as soon as nooga breaks 80 he's gonna start playin the back nine!

May 31, 2012 at 3:47 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jesse: IF he can find a course that will allow his jorts, wife beater, and chuck taylor high-tops.

May 31, 2012 at 3:50 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

MMMMMMM. Make fire, cook meat!

May 31, 2012 at 4:26 p.m.
davisss13 said...

Jack_Dennis said... The only talk I hear about religion is from the left. Curious.

That's because you guys, including white collar criminal extraordinaire Tom the hammer DeLay, have shamed it completely, have embraced all kinds of degenerate behavior including, but certainly not limited to: unfettered greed, global religious war and torture.

I'd say y'all have no credibility when it comes to religion. None whatsoever.

Hearing a GOPer talk about Jesus pretty much makes me want to throw up.

May 31, 2012 at 4:37 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Jack_Dennis said...

"The only talk I hear about religion is from the left. Curious."

Hmmm, you must live a very cloistered life.

No pun intended.

C'mon conservatives, get cracking. There has to be a conspiracy against your beliefs here somewhere.

May 31, 2012 at 4:53 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

THE LUNATIC IS TOO CUTE

One of best lies, er, lines from Miss Quoque, happened today. She hopes and prays that beloved Governor Scott Walker is not recalled, and chastised the unions during one of her rather routine hissy fits. She screamed,

I think these idiots have finally gotten their just rewards for the damage they have done to our economy over the last 50 years.

Really honey? The unions are to blame for our current economic situation? Not Wall Street? Not the Bernie Madoffs of this world? Not the mortgage backed security scam cooked up by the banks? Not the unadulterated greed of the American financial institutions that both perpetrated the fiasco and then were first in line to get their tax payer funded bailout? And then promptly turned around and gave themselves a big fat bonus for a crime will done?

No, you blame the unions.

That would have been your funniest statements ever if you were going for satire.

I guess you just want to pull your hair out when an American worker can earn enough money from just one job to buy a house, buy a car, put the kids through college and save a little for retirement. It must really get your panties in a bunch.

No wonder you're a bitter old maid.

May 31, 2012 at 6:10 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

We "libtards" have enough sense to stay out of the way when you are in "spew" mode.

May 31, 2012 at 6:54 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

http://usconservatives.about.com/od/conservativesobama/tp/ObamaGaffes.htm

These make Obama less than the messiah. The libs rubbed Bush's nose in his gaffes. But Obama gets a pass on his. And they are many.

"The Polish death camps"? What a freakin' imbicile!!

May 31, 2012 at 7:05 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Seems so far that all of Obama's "magic bullets" to use against Romney has either backfired of has had no impact.

War on women.....failed

war on Bain......failed

war on dogs......failed

war on Scott Walker.....failed

Keep the hope alive libs. But it don't look good for you.

May 31, 2012 at 7:14 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Toes,

You live in a fantasy world. It doesn't look good for you right wing nuts.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

May 31, 2012 at 7:23 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Tuquoque,

No one wants to argue with you because you have no argument. You post erroneous, right wing articles that bash Obama. Most of your information comes from blogs. No one cares about the crap you spew.

May 31, 2012 at 7:30 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

WOW easy! A whole 2.3 points!!

I invite you to look at what Reagan's numbers were against Carter.

Reagan was down double-digits against Carter at this point in the race. And Reagan won in a landslide! If Obama is so awesome, then why does he struggle even in liberal polls? Let the whining begin!

May 31, 2012 at 7:41 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Indeed: arguing with you is like arguing with a 2 year old. It is a waste of time. Come back when you get a clue and maybe we'll talk.

May 31, 2012 at 7:42 p.m.
Easy123 said...

So your side is losing. And somehow you act like that's a good thing?! If Romney is so awesome and Republicans are so happy with his nomination, then why does he struggle in nearly all the polls?

May 31, 2012 at 7:45 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Toes: 5 stars, sir.

May 31, 2012 at 8 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Toes: 5 demerits, sir. Anyone who uses the word imbecile to deride another person should be able to spell it! What a major fail!

May 31, 2012 at 9:51 p.m.
dude_abides said...

National Review. Yeah. Founded by Gore Vidal's b!tch. What a useful expenditure of your time, # tu_.

May 31, 2012 at 9:57 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

STUDY THE KARL ROVE PLAYBOOK

That will outline republican strategies to attack Obama.

Lesson #1: Identify your weaknesses. Turn the tables on your opponent.

Example 1: Dateline - 1988. VP George HW Bush is on hand to accept his party's nomination for President, and delivers his infamous, 'Read my lips. No new taxes,' speech. The crowd goes wild.

The Problem? Pappy Bush raised taxes and even some republicans accused him of being a liar. The political ramifications appeared fatal.

The solution?

Accuse the 1992 Democratic Presidential candidate of being a liar. That turned out to be Bill Clinton. Liar, liar, liar, the right wing chorus all sang. They never said exactly what Bill was lying about, but it didn't matter. When they gained control of congress they spent 70 million taxpayer dollars on investigations to find Monica.

Example 2: Dateline - 2004. Senator John Kerry is on hand to accept his party's nomination for President. After a short film introduces the audience to John Kerry, the decorated Viet Nam War veteran, Senator Kerry steps to the microphone and says, 'Reporting for duty.' The crowd goes wild.

The Problem? Stories were circulating questioning Bush’s enlistment in the Texas Air National Guard. It was thought he received special treatment because of Dad.

The solution?

Accuse Kerry of earning the Bronze Star, Silver Star, and three Purple Hearts under fishy circumstances. Accuse Kerry of having something to hide regarding his military service and question why he won’t release his service record.

Example 3: Dateline - The Present. Mitt Romney wins the Texas primary and now has enough delegates to win the republican presidential nomination. The Problem? Romney never seems to say anything inspiring, and he has a history of taking both sides of a political argument. In fact, outside of tax cuts for the rich it’s hard to find a consistent policy position.

(A personal favorite regards Romney writing an editorial warning that if Obama went ahead and bailed out Detroit the automobile industry in this Country would be dead. Now, however, Mitt is claiming much of the credit.)

The solution?

Accuse President Obama of flip-flopping and political hypocrisy. You’ve already seen a few tea bagging minions leveling these scathing accusations in the above comments but get ready for a full out media assault. It’s coming, and republicans have the cash to fire up the propaganda machine like never before.

That’s all for today. Lesson 2 next time.

June 1, 2012 at 12:14 a.m.
joneses said...

Why do you hypocritical liberals continue to avoid talking about Hussein Obama’s $16,000,000,000,000.00 debt with no end in sight, no budget for his entire term, highest unemployment ever for any president , more people on welfare than any president ever, highest gas prices in history just like the deficit, failed obamacare, failed stimulus package, weak and failing foreign policies, a ridiculous energy policy, committing more troops into afghanistan, the ndaa, spending multi millions of tax dollars for personal use, attacking the catholic church, dividing race, gender, religion & wealthy people with all his hate speech, bowing to our enemies and giving them billions of our tax dollars while stabbing our allies in their backs , his illegal libyan war, the muslim brotherhood in the white house, keeping Gitmo opened, threatening and disrespecting the supreme court, disrespecting not upholding our constitution, disrespecting our veterans, appointing communist radical czars, spending almost $1,000,000.00 to hide his college records and past, a fake birth certificate, his father being a communist, his twisted and sordid upbringing, his indonesian muslim transgender prostitute nanny, his communist grand parents and life long friends, his denied muslim faith, his racist church of 20 years, the new black panthers, his association with known weather underground admitted communist Bill Ayers, his wife’s hatred of our flag and shame for this country, his arrogance and hypocrisy. Bennett’s cartoons are not close to a bigger joke than Barry Soetoro aka Hussien Obama’s. What is really pathetic and disgusting is you liberals are proud of this fool of a president’s failures. And you stupid liberals/dummycrats think gay sex, abortion and religion are the top issues facing America. Wake up!

June 1, 2012 at 7:10 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

joneses, you are overdue for a tinfoil hat adjustment. Get help.

June 1, 2012 at 7:37 a.m.
moonpie said...

joneses,

We can talk about anything, but most of us choose not to talk to you because you seem utterly incapable of grasping any level of complexity.

You see a cube and call it a square.

Calling 16 trillion in debt the president's is spurious. Then there is the rest of your language. You're shouting and wondering why no one really has a conversation with you.

To bring people to your side, bridges work better than walls.

June 1, 2012 at 7:57 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Obama deserves criticism for a variety of things, praise for some things, and neither for yet others. Your list is filled with goofy items, so it diminishes your credibility. I suspect you also think the moon landings were faked, Elvis is still alive and living in Vegas, the earth is 8000 years old, aliens built the pyramids in Egypt and there really was a world-wide flood and a man that put two (or seven) of every animal on a big wooden boat.

June 1, 2012 at 8:02 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

While The Wart, takes his mediocre nibbles at the margins some cartoonists are doing really sharp and relevant political satire.

http://townhall.com/political-cartoons/michaelramirez

June 1, 2012 at 9:05 a.m.
joneses said...

ikeithlu

I never hear you Hussein Obama sheep praise Hussein Obama for anything. What does Hussein Obama dessrve praise for and why is he not campaigning on these praises? Not one of those things I listed is not true. it is people like you who have not the courage, wisdom or are intellectually challenged that cannot admit Hussein Obama's policies has failed America. Here is a little tidbit of information. Hussein Obama spent 1 trillion dollars to stimulate the economy and create jobs and this is one of many headlines we are seeing as a result of Hussein Obama's policies.

Today

"US economy added 69K jobs in May, fewest in a year US economy added 69,000 jobs in May, fewest in a year; unemployment rate rose to 8.2 percent"

Will you not admit this is a result of Hussein Obama's failures? About 225,000 jobs have to be added every month just to keep the unemployment level steady. This is a fact. Why are facts so hard for you libtards to understand? Maybe you want high unemployment so people will be forced to live off the government so Hussein Obama can buy their votes. Maybe Hussein Obama wants to destroy the middle class as everyone knows the biggest obstacle to communism is a strong middle class. You and the rest of you libtards are being lied to by Hussein Obama or you want everyone to be dependent on the ruling class Hussein Obama is establishing. Answer this. Did Hussein Obama lie to you when during his presidential campaign he said he would cut the debt in half his first four years? He actually is on track to add 6 trillion dollars to the debt. Did he lie to you?

June 1, 2012 at 9:07 a.m.
joneses said...

moonpie, lkeithlu,

You say no one converses with me but then you converse with me. I find it interesting you never say one thing good about Hussein Obama. all you do is say everyone else is wrong about his failed policies. Typical bury your head in the sand hypocritical liberals. Thanks for reading my post. LOL!

June 1, 2012 at 9:12 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

davisss13 said... "Seriously? Marxism? Socialism? It didn't work last time and it won't work now."

You obviously have no idea who you are supporting. It saddens me to know that clueless dolts have the same right to vote as informed citizens.

June 1, 2012 at 9:18 a.m.
joneses said...

tu_quoque said

”One Obama is the fittest and most energetic of recent presidents; another Obama is the most secretive and reluctant about proving it through the customary releasing of medical records.”

Hussein Obama also smokes cigarettes. A fact covered up by the main stream government controlled media.

June 1, 2012 at 9:26 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

BHO gets a free pass from the MSM. The hollywood elite love him. Enough right there to vote against him.

June 1, 2012 at 10:03 a.m.
moonpie said...

joneses,

We can have a conversation. Clearly I read your posts, otherwise I would not have responded. You asked the question why people don't answer the claims you've made. I answered that question.

Perhaps it was not to your satisfaction.

So I'll give you one more reason: many of your statements are opinions.... such as the president "disrepecting" various entities and people. It can be difficult to have a conversation about opinions other than to say, I don't see it that way.

I personally believe that the president has a very statesmen-like deportment. Some believe he is too aloof, too cool, too distant. Compared to the shrillness of the right, I like his steady temperment. Is he perfect? No.

Do I like his association with Reverend Wright? No. Did I like him making promises I knew he couldn't likely keep? No (like Gitmo). Do I like when he plays the political game? No.

I also think he failed in his health care policy by not pushing for a government option. I think he gave the store to the insurance industry.

But I do like the fact that he saved GM. I like that he got us out of Iraq. I like a lot of policies he's supported such as Frank-Dodd, increased funding for returning vets, is an advocate for clean/renewable energy, the repeal of DADT, public announcement of support of gay marriage.... just to name a few. We can debate these. Perhaps none of them are perfect, but that's the world we live in.

There have been many things I'm proud of him for, many policies, many decisions. I have written in the past about them. He has fallen short, too. I can say the same of every president. I like a lot of things George Bush did. Same with papa Bush, same with Clinton, Carter, Reagan, Ford, LBJ....

I don't see any of these men as purely good or purely evil. Again, I try to see all the dimensions. I don't always succeed at this, but I do try. This is not something I see you even attempting.

I don't think you are wrong about everything. We actually agree on some things. I've made posts on this in the past.

I welcome legitimate debate. I learn things I didn't know. Sometimes I learn that I was wrong about something. That's how we progress. If we never learn that we were wrong we never progress.

I am stunned by the lack many people (on all sides) here who seem to never question that they could be wrong. That is not a very scientific approach.

OK, I've rambled enough. Gotta go. Have a nice weekend, joneses.


By the way, to all who post here.... I don't think any of us really believe you are laughing or happy when you post things like LOL, ROTFLMAO.... just the opposite. To me, it makes the poster sound just bitter. (But hey, I could be wrong.)

June 1, 2012 at 10:15 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

I concur, moonpie. We don't have to deal in absolutes. Obama has done some good, but he has failed in some ways too.

joneses, you just reinforced what I said. A lot of what you posted is NOT true; mixing crap with a few valid points is a waste of time. Focus, hon.

Oh, yeah-that's right, you can't.

June 1, 2012 at 10:37 a.m.
TOES02800 said...
June 1, 2012 at 10:39 a.m.
joneses said...

Moon pie,

Good post. I have to go as well.

June 1, 2012 at 10:42 a.m.
jesse said...

it's gonna be a rough ride no matter which one wins!

they both are bozos!Obama might be slightly more able but not by much!

June 1, 2012 at 1:56 p.m.
chatt_man said...

moonpie - I too have to commend you for your most recent post. It seems like too often we deal in extremities and don't discuss the substance of the topic(s).

I wondered if the GM bailout was good. I still am undecided, but the latest report that 7 out of every 10 cars that GM makes, is now made outside the US, makes me think a little less so.

June 1, 2012 at 2:38 p.m.
joneses said...

nooga,

Gas prices are still high under Hussein Obama. I do remember when you libtards were pissing and moaning about the greedy oil companies and the high price of gas caused by President Bush but you say nothing about the high price of gas under Hussein Obama. Another example of fine hypocrisy from the left. Will you admit the liberals were wrong to blame President Bush for the high price of gas when he was president?

June 1, 2012 at 5:43 p.m.
joneses said...

You are correct Hussein Obama will probably get reelected because of fools who do not understand he and is communist friends like Bill Ayers are out to destroy America as we know it. Hussein Obama keeps telling his sheep he wants to move the country "forward" but he never tells says what he wants to move the country forward to. You are following him blind like the sheep you are. From all I have seen Hussein Obama wants complete government take over of all our lives and to install a ruling class like communist Russia had which will take away the incentive for the citizens to be productive all under the disguise of being fair. Apparently this is what libtard sheep want and it is pathetic as this type of government has proven to never work anywhere. Margaret Thatcher said "Socialism works until you run out of other peoples money". Well, we are at the point where we have run out of other people's money. Hussein Obama, by spending 6 trillion dollars has made it impossible to pay back this debt so the only option is for the country to go bankrupt. If Hussein Obama confiscated all the wealth of the wealthiest 1% of Americans it would not come close to paying off this debt. One of the reason's you liberals voted for Hussein Obama was because he said he would cut the debt in half. Well, he is on track to more than double the debt. Do you not feel stupid? It is obvious you and the rest of your sheep do not realize how this will impact you and all of us. When America defaults on it's debt Inflation will be so high a loaf of bread could cost $20.00. The American dollar will be worth pennies. The unemployment rate will sky rocket, and there will not be any money for the government to rescue your sorry asses. I cannot understand why you liberals do not see this or you do and think it a good thing. It is mind boggling. You liberals were correct condemning President Bush for adding 5 trillion dollars to the debt in 8 years which I agree was stupid but you praise Hussein Obama for adding 6 trillion dollars to the debt in 4 years. I do not understand why you give Hussein Obama a pass for adding over twice the amount of debt than President Bush. How can anyone see this as a good thing? Are you liberals that blind and stupid to not see what Hussein Obama is doing to this country? Wake up for God's sake Hussein Obama is out to destroy you.

June 1, 2012 at 5:56 p.m.
jesse said...

hey nuggies ?you PROVED that i was a liar?WHEN did THAT happen??

the only thing you have proven on here that i'm aware of is that you are the LAST person on earth to call anyone red neck trailer park trash!!

June 1, 2012 at 6:07 p.m.
jesse said...

by the way "hatters is what owners of "hatteras" yachts call their boats!

they shorten it up so it doesn't sound so pretentious!

kinda like jaguar owners call them Jags or aston martin owners

just use the ASTON'part! it's obvious you have never been around HIGH DOLLAR toys and the folk that have them!

btw: you don't go "riddin" on a yacht! you go "for a cruise"!!lol

June 1, 2012 at 6:16 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Unemployment back up to 8.2%. Nice recovery Obama!

June 1, 2012 at 9:44 p.m.
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