published Thursday, November 1st, 2012

Trick or Treat

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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mountainlaurel said...

Hmmm. . . I’d say somebody is doing a lot of tricking to get all those treats. . . and we know it can’t be the neighborhood kids in the 47%.

November 1, 2012 at 5:21 a.m.
Cactus said...

"A" spent four hours Trick or Treating, while "U" and "S" watched tv for three hours and only spent one hour trick or treating. Now "U" and "S" want their "fair share" from "A". Is that fair?

November 1, 2012 at 6:20 a.m.
alprova said...

It is simply amazing what people assume while looking at a picture.

November 1, 2012 at 6:36 a.m.
jesse said...

Enlighten us Al!

What do you see in this toon?

It's got me stumped as to what he's trying to say!!

I KNOW the "oracle of altoona" can clue me in!

November 1, 2012 at 7:02 a.m.
EaTn said...

Scenario 1: "U and S" spent the evening canvassing the middle-class neighborhood while "A" walked around the block in his gated community.

Scenario 2: "U and S" spent the evening at a local mall then shared their treats with a friend "A" who's parents were working two shifts and couldn't take him out.

Next......

November 1, 2012 at 7:06 a.m.
jesse said...

Maybe A is big govt. and strongarmed all of U and S's goodies?

Or A is on govt.assistance and U and S just got what was left over!

November 1, 2012 at 7:12 a.m.
Cactus said...

"U and S" graduated from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History and "A" has a Business degree from UTC.

November 1, 2012 at 7:25 a.m.
conservative said...

alprova, open wide. I see from your 10:48 comment that you have a long way to go. I'm patient.

The Bible is obviously foolishness to you. Here is the reason :

1 Corinthians 2:14 KJV But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

November 1, 2012 at 7:32 a.m.
fairmon said...

It could refer to:

U=underage

S=senior

A=adults

But, my guess it is about wealth and/or income distribution. It suggest no matter how A got the goodies A should share with U & S until each has an equal amount.

November 1, 2012 at 7:34 a.m.
rolando said...

No, no. You all have it wrong. All three started out with full buckets.

But the amount of "candy" still in "A's" bucket is what's LEFTOVER after his secret contribution to The Obama's campaign...and he gets to keep it all.

The other two represent those after they pay their income taxes...and get royally screwed supporting all those grasshoppers who pay NO taxes [the 47%].

November 1, 2012 at 7:36 a.m.
GreenKepi said...

The 'Little Red Hen'...this cartoon brings that story alive....

November 1, 2012 at 7:58 a.m.
delmar said...

Amazing that just because some buckets aren't overflowing, some think that laziness is involved.

November 1, 2012 at 8:08 a.m.
librul said...

It's obvious ... A and B were off dancin' with Mitt:

November 1, 2012 at 8:13 a.m.
fairmon said...

BRP.....ML and happybulbs have about convinced me local and state governments are inept, incompetent, crooked, corrupt, conniving and too close to the voting public and tax payers whose money they are responsible that may influence them. I didn't realise we elected the smartest, more honest and capable to federal office that know better what people in all states need than those in the state. I did not realise how caring, compassionate, country first regardless of personal cost democrats were. It sounds like they will borrow, print or steal if need be to provide for me. I didn't see the value of one size fits all being best for all.

Yep, it may be time to abolish local and state governments with the role of the people in place now being to implement and do as the central government tells them to do. I guess as long as we elect democrats who apparently are always dependable, predictable and totally honest we will be OK. Alprova and mountainlaurel assure me one of them may accidentally misspeak but will not mislead or lie to us. ML can provide articles from various sources that support her opinions.

I better early vote for what's his name and what's her name, it doesn't matter that I don't know them as long as the word democrat is by the name on the ballot.

Just think BRP, we have a chance to get back to just like it was for the first two years with Obama. Obama, Reid and Pelosi in charge, does that not make your heart flutter and skip a few beats?

I wonder if once I have ballot in hand I will still mark it for Gary Johnson.

November 1, 2012 at 8:25 a.m.
hambone said...

The U and S are Romney's domestic bank accounts.

The A must be his offshore bank accounts !

November 1, 2012 at 8:33 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Simple: U is dude_. S is backwater48. Both are so offensive, nobody would throw down candy.

November 1, 2012 at 8:38 a.m.
fairmon said...

Obama may have just locked up a win....

CNBC...The private sector created a better-than-expected 158,000 jobs in October, according to the first report employment data firm ADP released since it changed the way it computes the number. Most of them were in the service sector with a small number in the goods producing sector.

Note: the change in methodology was not explained and is not likely to be included in the print headline nor is it likely to be part of the news sound bite.

This will probably not be in the main stream news.... The number of planned layoffs by U.S. firms jumped 41.1 percent in October to the highest level in five months, 47,724.

Darn ML my trust is wavering again, tell me how great he is again.

November 1, 2012 at 8:46 a.m.
librul said...

Seasonal ups and downs aren't the important news, Harp - it's the fact that the trend line is up. That's the important thing. It indicates recovery. Mittens is far more responsible for UNemployment than he could ever hope to be for "job creaton" except offshore, of course, over there he's da bomb!

November 1, 2012 at 8:59 a.m.

A = Baby Boomers

B&C = Gen X & Y

November 1, 2012 at 9:05 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Leno: 'Hurricane Sandy Has Already Created More Jobs Than Obama Has'

November 1, 2012 at 9:07 a.m.
conservative said...

alprova, open wide. Now back to your false claims of Bible contradictions specifically : "Genesis 2:17 - Adam was to die the very day that he ate the forbidden fruit. Genesis 5:5 - Adam lived 930 years"

Now, here is the verse : Genesis 2:17 - "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

The death spoken here by God was spiritual death on that day.

The atheist only recognizes the death of the body. At death man just ceases to exist, there is no spirit, no conscioussness.

So you were bamboozled by atheists into thinking only physical death was meant here.

Do you see now why there is no contradiction?

November 1, 2012 at 9:25 a.m.
mymy said...

The election is not a question of trick or treat. It poses a clear choice for voters: either continue on the path of decline, or pick a new president to restore America's individual freedoms and economic energy.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/for-halloween-obamas-scariest-domestic-policies/article/2512128#.UJEjkm_A-Zg

5 Days to Go!

It is still the economy/jobs/foreign policy/direction of country/National Security here/abroad and the growing debt.

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock

Romney/Ryan 2012

November 1, 2012 at 9:26 a.m.
Leaf said...

"A" has two costumes and went around twice.

November 1, 2012 at 9:28 a.m.
delmar said...

Jay Leno:"Mitt Romney says he's never paid less than 13% in taxes, which I think is fair because only 13% of his money is in this country."

November 1, 2012 at 9:30 a.m.
Leaf said...

This cartoon is like a political Rorschack(sp?) test.

Conservative. Dude. Give it up. Just believe what makes you happy and quit trying to prove the unprovable. Trying to prove religion with logic is like trying to describe art with mathematics.

November 1, 2012 at 9:33 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Not sure what all these biblical quotes have to do with the election.

November 1, 2012 at 9:39 a.m.
alprova said...

arp3339 wrote: "Alprova and mountainlaurel assure me one of them may accidentally misspeak but will not mislead or lie to us."

I have never intentionally mislead a soul in this forum and I never will. I express my opinions like everyone else, and express facts to the best of my research. In the rare circumstance when I am shown to be in error when presenting something of a factual nature, I have ALWAYS immediately fessed up to being wrong, retracted, and apologized, no matter who set the record straight.

"I better early vote for what's his name and what's her name, it doesn't matter that I don't know them as long as the word democrat is by the name on the ballot."

When I stepped into the voting booth the other day, I voted for one...ONE Democrat. I think you can figure out who that was. The rest of the ballot, I voted for each and every Republican candidate.

Secondly, you have never, ever seen me try to influence your decision to vote for anyone. While I might consider a vote for Gary Johnson to be a complete waste of your time, I would never tell you to vote for my preferred candidate.

I have spent a great deal of time defending our President for one simple reason. People deserve to know the facts at all times. God knows there are enough people running around this country spreading misinformation and lies about the candidates, but I've never as an adult witnessed anyone more vilified than Barack Obama has been.

In five days, it will all be over. I've done my part to keep things honest. I've cast my vote, for all the good that it will do. The results are completely out of my control. I am still extremely confident that the President is destined to a second term.

If not, my life will go on just as it has for the last 53 years. What the future holds if Mitt Romney is elected, I don't know. And the reason I don't know is because I don't have the first clue what Mitt Romney will truly do as President.

I truly believe that Mitt Romney really, really wants to be President of the United States. No matter how he is viewed, he currently is the best that the Republicans have to offer this nation.

I think that thought should scare everyone, no matter one's party of preference.

A good friend of mine despises Barack Obama. He has opined many times that if the county dog catcher were to run against Obama, that the dog catcher would get his vote.

So, he voted for Mitt, not because he believes in the man, but because he despises Obama. The anti-Obama sentiment out there is the only reason that Mitt Romney has any chance at all in this race.

According to all the polling data I have processed over the past six months, and especially over the past 48 hours, Romney will be sent home with his tail between his legs...AGAIN.

Obama still has a 70% of being reelected. Mitt has a 30% chance of being elected.

November 1, 2012 at 9:40 a.m.
fairmon said...

librul said...

Seasonal ups and downs aren't the important news, Harp - it's the fact that the trend line is up.

Are you real sure the trend is up? Are the key economic indicators also all to your liking? Ever wonder why the fed is desparately printing more and more money? Have you checked the trend of the % elgible to work that are working? Have you checked the trend line of the average work week and average income? Surely you don't think the president has control over the economy? Congress can sure screw it up and, to a large extent, have but the president is not that powerful and thus far not that persuasive.

November 1, 2012 at 9:51 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

so nooga, where do you fall? u, s, or a?

November 1, 2012 at 9:52 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....

I have never intentionally mislead a soul in this forum and I never will. I express my opinions like everyone else, and express facts to the best of my research. In the rare circumstance when I am shown to be in error when presenting something of a factual nature, I have ALWAYS immediately fessed up to being wrong, retracted, and apologized, no matter who set the record straight.

Read it again.....I did not intend to insinuate any of the three was intentionally being dishonest or misleading. I was trying to say I had been assured a democrat politician may misspeak but never lie or mislead me. ML especially loves to kick republicans and love democrats. I have always assumed ML, happy bulbs and you all actually believe the opinions you express and that all actually believe all the articles referenced to support those opinions.

November 1, 2012 at 9:58 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Since Bennett will not touch this subject it is up to us to keep it on the radar screen.

A pretty nice summary of the ineptitude and selfishness that is demonstrated by our president on a daily basis.

November 1, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.
conservative said...

alprova, open wide. Regarding your false claims of Bible contradictions specifically : "Genesis 2:17 - Adam was to die the very day that he ate the forbidden fruit. Genesis 5:5 - Adam lived 930 years"

Now, many verses teach Bible doctrine. This account of spiritual death first taught in Genesis 2:17 is taught in other portions of Scripture as well.

Mathew 8: 21-22 Then another of His disciples said to Him, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.” 22 But Jesus said to him, “Follow Me, and let the dead bury their own dead.”

Note the words of Jesus "let the dead bury their own dead.” Now, since a physically dead person can not bury another dead person, spiritual death must be in view here. Do you see that?

There is no contradiction in Genesis 2:17, you were bamboozled by atheists.

November 1, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I am pretty sure Bennett is bemoaning income disparity in this country. Never mind that the poor in this country have a better standard of living of the vast majority of people in the world. That does not matter, there must be equality of results and "fairness". It does not matter if the wealthy actually worked for and earned what they have come to posses, the leftists justify passing laws to confiscate those possessions and pass it out to those who are not willing or able to rise to the level of the top 5 or 10 percent. The confiscation and redistribution that they advocate for is immoral.

When I first looked at the cartoon I was temporarily baffled, I thought I saw the States United and the citizens of those States sitting with less than half empty vessels while the federal government "America" was overflowing such that the bounty was spilling onto the ground to waste. But that is my Libertarian paradigm clouding Bennett's message. You have to put yourself in the shoes of a socialist to see Bennett's intent.

November 1, 2012 at 10:14 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Harp,

I also struggle with voting against Obama verses staying steady with the fight for liberty. Since I live in Tennessee and do not feel all that worried about Obama getting Tennessee's electoral votes I feel free to vote my conscience. I was not so sure in 2008 and voted for the grey side and have regretted that decision ever since. Every time McCain gets in front of a TV camera and advocates getting directly involved in another foreign conflict I am happy that he is not president.

November 1, 2012 at 10:21 a.m.
librul said...

Just went to Fox Noise website, not one mention of Christie's effusive praise for President Obama and FEMA and his "I don't give a damn about (Romney's) Presidential politics right now" comment.

November 1, 2012 at 10:27 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

watch Fox often. have seen NUMEROUS clips of Christy praising the Blessed One.

November 1, 2012 at 10:33 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

SIMPLE QUESTIONS

Jack the Jester whined because I asked him a question he couldn’t answer. That’s not my fault. You’re offended because you can’t answer? That’s on you, clown boy.

Here’s the question: Why would you believe another republican president could balance the federal budget by cutting taxes and increasing defense spending?

Here’s another: Why not go back to a tax structure that actually worked? In 1993 Bill Clinton raised the top marginal tax rate to 39%. That helped ignite a booming economy and create 22 million new jobs. That’s what Obama proposes. It works out to about a 3% hike on income OVER $250,000. That 3% is what the entire ‘class warfare’ malarkey is really about. No one’s going to lose his or her house. No one’s going to start clipping coupons. That’s not redistribution of anything. That’s a correction to the republican fairy tale that giving more money to the rich will trickle down to the rest of us.

BTW, while Clinton was President the rich got richer.

Repeating the same failed experiment and expecting a different result is madness. Why not do something that works?

Jack, if you’re offended by facts keep snorting that trickle down fairy dust.

November 1, 2012 at 10:37 a.m.
Leaf said...

Just went to Jon Ross's home site. Lots of cars on blocks and a big rebel flag hanging on his front porch.

November 1, 2012 at 10:37 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

It means the smart one in A saved their candy for a rainy day, while U and S bloating their fat little bellies with the first handout and are now whining how it's not fair that A has it all. Sounds like a typical Dem creation by Tooney and his TFP handlers.

November 1, 2012 at 10:41 a.m.
librul said...

It's pretty clear to everyone, except you, JonRoss, that the fratboy from Texas and "heckuva job Brownie", his Arabian Horse Association plant in FEMA, were responsible for much of the bungling that made the Katrina disaster worse than it should have been. Many of us remember the thirty-minute "photo-op" set up by Bush's team so the fratboy could be shown in the disaster zone.

Anyway, as Forrest G. would say: "Romney's like a box of chocolates ..."

Oh, and I don't see any Faux News mention of that "event" Romney held yesterday where he avoided answering FOURTEEN TIMES the question of whether he would still eliminate FEMA while he was "accepting donations" of goods for disaster relief that his own staff had been sent to Wally World to purchase specifically for the event, so he could be seen "accepting" them from "generous supporters". GAG!

November 1, 2012 at 10:52 a.m.
Leaf said...

Jon Ross, I'm no bigot. I just can't stand people who are intolerant!

November 1, 2012 at 11:19 a.m.
Leaf said...

Correct, JR. If you do not worship Obama you are a bad person. It says so right in the Book of Leaf.

Leaf 3: 4-10 And then the messiah said unto Ezekial Jr., "slayeth thou the fatted emu and prepareth thou the cold brewskis in preparation for my return which shall be directly after the antichrist efs it all up. And the letter of the beast is W. He who worships W shall surely perish in a tragic meth lab fire. He who believeth in BHO who is thy savior will be cool. Thy savior verily shall save thy bacon from the donut hole and there shall be peace everlasting upon the Earth Amen.

November 1, 2012 at 11:41 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Ha, JR is such a backwards slack-jaw looser with his paranoid right wing ideology. He's always afraid the commies, reds, or socialists are after him.

He so perfectly fits the negative stereotype of an un-educated mouth breathing goat/cousin ticklin' dingletoot, that it's too perfect not to laugh.

Then just when you get to snickering at the blatantly obvious, he cries "bigot" like he's got no self awareness or sense of humor, and just learned a new word but hasn't made it to figuring out what that fancy word "hypocrite" could mean.

Funny stuff indeed.

November 1, 2012 at 12:01 p.m.
EaTn said...

ALL THOSE WHO ARE UNDECIDED OR BELIEVE THEY CAN EASILY BE PERSUADED TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE--PLEASE RESPOND BELOW.

November 1, 2012 at 12:08 p.m.
miraweb said...

He's Running For President for Crying Out Loud

Romney Party Central Headed for Ohio

Nearly 100 governors, senators, congressmen, mayors, Olympic gold medalists and other Republican luminaries are scheduled to join Romney and his vice presidential running mate, Rep. Paul Ryan (Wis.), in a Cincinnati suburb Friday night for a huge rally designed both to inject new energy into their Ohio campaign and to launch the Republican ticket on its final, frenetic three days of barnstorming before Election Day.

Kicking off what the Romney campaign is dubbing the “Romney-Ryan Real Recovery Road Rally,” the event will be held in West Chester, just outside of Cincinnati, a populous and potentially decisive swath of southwestern Ohio where Romney needs to drive up turnout within his conservative base and win over moderate suburban voters.

The campaign announced that almost every Romney surrogate – from the candidate’s wife, Ann, and their five sons to a number of Olympic athletes to a lengthy roster of elected officials, including Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), the GOP’s 2008 presidential nominee – will attend, underscoring the importance of Ohio’s 18 electoral votes to Romney’s calculations.

Governor Christie sends his regrets. He has a conflict that evening

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/31/romney-and-ryan-plan-major-kick-off-rally-friday-in-ohio/

November 1, 2012 at 12:19 p.m.
miraweb said...

Ohio Papers Praise GM Recovery in Endorsements

Consider a defining moment early in Obama's first term -- one with special resonance in Ohio: The outgoing Bush administration had used TARP funds to throw a lifeline to General Motors and Chrysler, but the two automakers were still at death's door. They wanted more cash and offered vague promises to change their ways. Public opinion opposed another bailout.

Romney urged the companies to file for traditional bankruptcy -- at a time when private-sector credit was frozen even for healthy firms.

"Obama told the companies to restructure using the Bankruptcy Court and set conditions for government financing: GM's chairman had to go. Excess plants and dealerships had to close. Chrysler had to be bought out by Fiat. Contracts had to be renegotiated.

"It was unpopular but gutsy. And it worked. Ohioans today are making cars in Lordstown and Toledo. They're making parts and steel for Ford, Honda and other automakers. They're back on the job.

"That's leadership that deserves a chance to finish the job. Re-elect President Obama."

Cleveland Plain Dealer


"Finally, Romney cannot walk back easily his comments at a Florida fund-raiser about 47 percent of Americans refusing to take responsibility or care for their lives. He either was telling the crowd what he thought it wanted to hear, or he believes what he said. Either way, the words aren’t worthy of a president."

Akron Beacon Journal


http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2012/10/on_the_basis_of_sound_leadersh.html

http://www.ohio.com/editorial/editorials/obama-for-president-1.343675

November 1, 2012 at 12:29 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Not sure if this is Bennett's intended message but this is how I see it: conservatives are blind to the "US" in (US)A but they're quick to see the "ME" in A(ME)RICA.

How and when did we veer so far off track - from being a land of opportunity and a shared American Dream to becoming a land of opportunists and individual greed?

November 1, 2012 at 12:34 p.m.
miraweb said...

Gallup has suspended polling because of the storm but there are other polls out there:

ABC News / Washington Post polled on the response to Superstorm Sandy.

Federal Response - Good / Excellent 73%

President Obama's Response - Good / Excellent 77%

Governor Romney's Response - Good / Excellent 44%

They had 35% who voted "unsure" on Romney's response.

http://pollingreport.com/wh12.htm

November 1, 2012 at 12:37 p.m.
miraweb said...

Ohio's Husted Invalidates Absentee Ballots With Computer Update

Some absentee ballots statewide may have been mistakenly rejected following a glitch. The Plain Dealer reports the state has just now mailed about 33-thousand updated voter registration records to local election boards.

That means that some who have already voted absentee will have their ballots rejected because election officials did not have their current addresses.

Secretary of State Jon Husted said the delay was caused by a breakdown in the data-sharing partnership between the state and the Bureau of Motor Vehicles. Cuyahoga County’s elections board tells the Plain Dealer it will send new ballot applications to those with updated records.

http://www.wksu.org/news/story/33593

November 1, 2012 at 12:46 p.m.
miraweb said...

Heavy storm damage in Northern Ohio

In the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy, there are still about 150,000 First Energy customers without power, most of those in Cuyahoga and Lake Counties. FirstEnergy says about 100 linemen from companies in Montana, Missouri and Canada will soon arrive in Ohio.

Damage is widespread, especially in northern Ohio along Lake Erie where waves as tall as 20 feet crashed ashore. There was a scare in downtown Cleveland when the façade of the Sterling Building on Euclid Avenue appeared to have buckled. The building, which house’s Cuyahoga County’s main computer system, was evacuated. But structural engineers have determined it’s safe to occupy.

http://www.wksu.org/news/story/33593

November 1, 2012 at 12:49 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

backwater: I'm not offended. I just find you morally deficient. Thus irrelevant. Any intractable socialist is irrelevant, water. But you'll have to go some to be more deficient than dude_. (it's something to strive for)

November 1, 2012 at 12:50 p.m.
miraweb said...

OFFICIAL WARNING: INCOMING TQQ SURGE. MOVE AWAY FROM THE COAST. HEAVY COPY AND PASTE WILL FLOOD ASHORE IN MOST REGIONS. HOT AIR EXPECTED.


ABC / Washington Post has Obama's favorability at 50%. Even Fox's poll has it at 51%. AP is at 52%.

They even have George W's numbers which were 24% - 29% on this week in 2008.

Isn't the internet amazing?

http://pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

November 1, 2012 at 12:58 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

ROMNESIA

Jack the Jester first said I was offensive and then said he wasn’t offended.

No wonder you love Romney!

November 1, 2012 at 1:01 p.m.
miraweb said...

Gallup has been closed for four days. What poll were you referring to there, TQQ?

November 1, 2012 at 1:04 p.m.
fairmon said...

BRP....

I agree, that is what attracted me to Ron Paul and now Gary Johnson in addition to their logical approach to government consistent with the constituion. I am convinced some here, you know the names, would abolish all local and state governments and have one central government control everything and everyone. That would work for them until it became their turn to be "it" then they would not want to play. I don't think it matters who wins, Obama or Romney, the results in time will unfortunately be very similar.

The selfishness, greed and resentment of success and the demand that they share in it by pretending to care about others is so evident it is sickening.

November 1, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
conservative said...

alprova, open wide. While that last evidence I gave you refuting your claim that Genesis 2 :17 is a contradiction of Scripture is sinking in I want to address another false claim you made yesterday:

"You denied direct quotations of Jesus back then, just as you are now."

Of course I did not, now you are the bamboozler.

Here in full is your comment in regards to my comment and assertion that Jesus gave no monetary :

"You obviously are unaware that the assistance that Jesus gave to the poor was not monetary. Jesus healed scores of the lame, blind,deaf, sick etc.and even raisd the dead! However his greatest assistance to those in need was the forgiveness of sins- salvation."

And you claim to know the Bible... Matthew 19:16-30, Matthew 25:31-46, Luke 3:10-11, Luke 6:38, Luke 14:13, Luke 18:18-30, Luke 21:1-4, Mark 6:30-44, Mark 8:1-13, Mark 10:17-31, Romans 12:6-8, Leviticus 19:9-10, Isaiah 58:10-11, 1 John 3:17, Proverbs 28:27

If those are not enough to convince you that your claim is in error, here are some more;

Leviticus 25:35, Deuteronomy 14:28-29, Deuteronomy 15:7-11, Isaiah 58:6-7, Psalms 41:1-3, Proverbs 11:25, 19:17, 22:9, Matthew 5:42, 6:1-4, 19:21, 25:31-46, Luke 6:38, 11:41, 12:33-34, Acts 20:35, 1 Corinthians 12:4-11, 12:27-31, 13:1-13, 2 Corinthians 9:6-7, Galatians 2:10, Ephesians 4:7-12, 1 Timothy 5:16, 6:17-19, Hebrews 13:3, 13:16, James 1:27, 2:2-9, 2:15-16, 1 John 3:17-18

The words in those citations will reveal your effort to bamboozle others as I will begin to show next.

November 1, 2012 at 1:27 p.m.
conservative said...

alprova, open wide. As promise here are the Scripture passages where you falsely claimed Jesus gave monetary assistance to the poor.

My words :

"You obviously are unaware that the assistance that Jesus gave to the poor was not monetary. Jesus healed scores of the lame, blind,deaf, sick etc.and even raisd the dead! However his greatest assistance to those in need was the forgiveness of sins- salvation."

Yours words:

"And you claim to know the Bible..." in which you followed with numerous Scripture verses claiming Jesus did give monetary assistance. You first started with Matthew 19:16-30, without the words, however. I think the words will make clear why.

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? 26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. 27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? 28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. 30 But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.

It is quite obvious that nowhere in this passage did Jesus give monetary assistance to the poor!

November 1, 2012 at 1:48 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Great job, Fugatey.

November 1, 2012 at 1:49 p.m.
ibshame said...

"tu_quoque said... Just Another Racist Libtard POS: Move Along …. Nothing To See Here According to the Monroe County (GA.) Reporter, Dr. Joseph Lowery spoke at St. James Baptist Church on Saturday in an attempt to push the vote for President Barack Obama. Lowery, you may recall, was the genius who uttered these glorious words at the inauguration of Obama in 2009 during his benediction.."

Andrew Brietbart is taking a dirt nap. However, just before he was sent on his merry way, He attacked Shirley Sherrod with an outrageous, ridiculous lie. It appears he left his minions behind to carry on. Maybe they should be careful about the racist garbage they print or who knows fate just might be sending them to join Brietbart in the dirt. LOL

November 1, 2012 at 1:49 p.m.
ibshame said...

"tu_quoque said... .... At Politico, Adrian Gray writes: 'Truth is, nobody knows what will happen on Election Day. But here is what we do know: 220,000 fewer Democrats have voted early in Ohio compared with 2008. And 30,000 more Republicans have cast their ballots compared with four years ago. That is a 250,000-vote net increase for a state Obama won by 260,000 votes in 2008.'

Could it be that Obama’s get-out-the-vote efforts aren’t as unbeatable as we’re told?"

According to the Wing Nuts it's already in the bag for Romney regardless of what the polls are saying. People should start investing in the companies that make pads for walls because should Romney lose there's going to be a GREAT NEED FOR PADDED ROOMS FOR THE WING NUTS. LOL

November 1, 2012 at 1:59 p.m.
jesse said...

Some Body needs to pull an intervention w/conservative!

He is obviously around the bend and needs HELP!!

I am not trying to be funny, serious as cancer!

He's been on this kick for a while and has obviously lost control!

November 1, 2012 at 2:06 p.m.
tipper said...

A vote for Romney is a vote for....................? Nobody on this blog has a clue. Not even Romney knows what Romney's for except he wants the biggest CEO job of his life. But government is not or never will be a "business." It was never formed to work that way from the beginning. Unless you want to completely rewrite the Constitution. No one would do that for someone like Romney.

November 1, 2012 at 2:08 p.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Why should Romney have a response any more than the rest of us. He's not the President ... yet. For now, he's just a rich dude running for office. Let's ask him in January when all the post election laswsuits dreamed up by soon-to-be-out-of-work DemocRATic cronies are settled and Osama's on his way to Kenya.

November 1, 2012 at 2:24 p.m.
degage said...

News alert. Obamas paster that gave the prayer at his inaugration has now admitted he believes all white people will go to hell. Nice Huh? So Obama is not in the least racist only his friends are including Wright.I'm sure they really believe that but don't you think that is really over the top?

November 1, 2012 at 2:30 p.m.
jesse said...

What we got on here is a buncha azzholes that are so caught up in their fkn own opinions that they can't see daylight! I mat be wrong BUT conservitive is in trouble,needs help! Anybody on here know who he is?Where he lives?

November 1, 2012 at 3:02 p.m.
JustOneWoman said...

degage said... News alert. Obamas paster that gave the prayer at his inaugration has now admitted he believes all white people will go to hell.

Rick Warren said what? I thought Rick Warren was white. Yep, just looked him up on google. Degage, your info is just a bit skewed, screwed, and wrong. Now, are you just trying to mislead or are you just ignorant?

November 1, 2012 at 3:14 p.m.
jesse said...

Tu Que ! you would have to be 9 ft.tall and bullet proof w.an i.q. of at least 150 to even start to think about handin me my azz on any level you could conjure up! I happin to be worried about conservative! Al you seem to be worried about is showin everybody what the definition of C**t is!!

November 1, 2012 at 3:28 p.m.
degage said...

Just, You need to get your info straight. The rev that gave the benediction was Rev joseph Lowery.He is very black and he doesn't like white people.That is just as racist as anyone I can think of.

November 1, 2012 at 3:39 p.m.
jesse said...

Hey i'm open to options!! You been into the lmfao all your life so you never had to deal w/reality! Reality is when you look the devil in the eye and say "kiss my ass"! YOU AIN'T been there yet!You are on here shuckin and jivin!

November 1, 2012 at 3:40 p.m.
jesse said...

HEY tUqUE! bRING IT ON !! I gaurantee you i can deal w/it!!

I'm waiting! BTW; i ain't politically correct BUT i take care of buis. and i been readin your b.s. long enough to know when it gets down to it you could not find your ass w/a pack of huntin dogs!!

November 1, 2012 at 3:48 p.m.
Leaf said...

tu_quoque: That's some bizarre numbers you magicked up to justify continued occupation of Iraq. It's like the worst math I've ever seen. How could anyone possibly imagine that it is more expensive NOT to invade a country? You and Paul Ryan must use the same accountant, and he is always wacked out on peyote.

Many suspect a lot of the money that disappears from Iraq goes to Cheney's no-bid Blackwater buddies. There! Backatcha.

November 1, 2012 at 3:54 p.m.
Leaf said...

By the way, tu, why are you conservatives always playing that race card? Poor old white guy. Sorry you face so much discrimination.

November 1, 2012 at 3:59 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

tu_q and jesse: You boys beware. The real bad-ass on here is backwater48. His punk ass avatar alone is frightening. bwhahahahahaha.....like clockwork!

November 1, 2012 at 4:01 p.m.
EaTn said...

Way to go jesse...tu_cute has been way out of line for friendly debates.

November 1, 2012 at 4:01 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Is anybody planning a going away party for Obama this Tuesday?

November 1, 2012 at 4:04 p.m.
jesse said...

Hey Jack, If your scared just stand back out of the way!

Black water is just Alprova on steroids! Thinks he is the GURU of the universe! When you KNOW EVERY THING it's HARD to realize you DON'T know sh!t! What we got on here is a BUNCHA pontificators! That's slick talk for folks that talk out their azz!! Like "if you can't dazzel them w/brillance,baffle them w/bull shat!"LOL

November 1, 2012 at 4:22 p.m.
chatt_man said...

Yes, JonRoss, didn't you know only bigots fly flags... to show their intolerance.

That's why there's no way in hell anyone would EVER catch an American flag flying over Leaf's or dao's house.

Heck, that's the reason Obama doesn't wear a flag pen. He's the poster boy for tolerance... my a$$.

Did you notice, though, Obama did wear a flag pin for the debates. Two-faced POS.

November 1, 2012 at 4:33 p.m.
jesse said...

eatn! She ain't the only one on here guilty of that! We got some genuine azzholes on here that have no idea of what cordial discourse even means! Nooga is the first to come to mind followed closely by dude,bulbs and the"oracle from alltoona" Alprova!!

November 1, 2012 at 4:35 p.m.
jesse said...

Hey tu que? The last time you had an original idea was when you realised you were alive!! Like WOW man! NOW i can get in every body's FACE and show them how SMART i am!! Got news for ya! YA ain't near as smart as you think you are!

November 1, 2012 at 4:42 p.m.
EaTn said...

BigRidgePatriot said...Is anybody planning a going away party for Obama this Tuesday?

My guess is that it may be Wednesday before Mitt gives Obama the congratulatory call.

November 1, 2012 at 4:43 p.m.
Leaf said...

Seems I struck a nerve with the flag comment. JonRoss, do you ACTUALLY have a rebel flag on your porch? If so, can you explain why? I've never understood why most people would fly a rebel flag, especially if you also fly an American one. Just curious.

jesse, think positive, man. You got to put out good vibrations. Maybe they'll reach conservative.

November 1, 2012 at 4:53 p.m.
jesse said...

HEY TU QUE ? Where ya at? I.m ready to rumble!! You been runnin roughshod over these wimps on here and got all pumped up BUT i got you all figured out and gonna put your shat out on the line! No more easy goin!from now on i'm gonna be in your face 24/7! adios!!

November 1, 2012 at 5:02 p.m.
Leaf said...

It cuts, it pastes, it pontificates, fornicates and defecates! It always stays dull and never keeps an edge! It can cut through a straw man and still throw a tomato! It's the amazing gin_tu_ knife!

What would you say if I offered you one tu_ post for a penny? Too expensive you say? What if I threw in another twenty nearly-identical posts for free? What a bargain! Call withing the next ten minutes and I'll include a Jack Dennis completely free! Install the Jack Dennis under your bridge and it will keep billy goats, cats, squirrels and other annoying critters out of your yard! They're so cheap, you can't afford NOT to call!

November 1, 2012 at 5:08 p.m.
jesse said...

Tu Qu is a so called "liberated woman" that bareley managed to get an ASSot.degree in mumble peg from a Lib.arts school in Pinedale,Wyo. AND woke up one morn and decided "i'm the smartest person on the planet so i gotta let every body know about it"! She THEN proceeded to come to Chattanooga,Tenn. to inlightin all the ignorant folks from out of the hills! So far all she has shown EVERYBODYis that an assos.degree in mumble peg just don't cut it no mo! BTW: alprova is the smartest person on the planet and if you don't believe it just ask him!!

November 1, 2012 at 5:53 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jesse 5:53: that sounds more like dude_

November 1, 2012 at 6:08 p.m.
jesse said...

Hey Jack? You gonna suck up to ideology? I know you and t que agree on a lot of stuff ,AND to be honest so do i BUT she is still an azzhole!BuT she ain't by her lonesome! we got a load of azzholes on here on BOTH sides of the aisle!

November 1, 2012 at 6:27 p.m.
fairmon said...

A lot of chatter since I last checked in. It may be a week or two before the winner is known. Ohio alone has bungled it so bad they will take a long time trying to decide what to do, it is hard if not impossible to unfu%& some things. Law suits may follow and stretch it out even more. This may be the first time a swearing in date is delayed. No wonder we have the U.N. wanting to observe. Are you smokers ready for the first tax on Americans by the U.N.?

November 1, 2012 at 6:29 p.m.
hambone said...

I am beginning to think there is a tin foil shortage and some of the rays from the Kligon space ship parked behind the moon are getting thru to 4 or 5 of the poster here !

November 1, 2012 at 6:51 p.m.
jesse said...

Hey Ham! It ain't relevant unless you name names! Actually i been runnin short of foil here lately!

November 1, 2012 at 7:11 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Jack_Dennis said... Simple: U is dude_. S is backwater48. Both are so offensive, nobody would throw down candy.

Jack_Dennis said... backwater: I'm not offended. I just find you morally deficient. Thus irrelevant. Any intractable socialist is irrelevant, water. But you'll have to go some to be more deficient than dude_. (it's something to strive for)

Jack_Dennis said... jesse 5:53: that sounds more like dude_

Christ akimbo, Jack_Whitepower, stop obsessing!

Have you ever observed a mosh pit? That's what an objective look at your posts today evokes. An Angry Aryan staggering around bumping and grinding into and sweating and breathing onto anything that will let it. I hate dude_! dude_ sucks! That sounds like dude_! I apologize for owning your subconscious today.

November 1, 2012 at 7:47 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

jesse: Ole JD ain't suckin up to anybody. Nobody on here I agree with 100% of the time. Except maybe Easy123. And he got drafted into the Peace Corp.

November 1, 2012 at 7:49 p.m.
alprova said...

jesse wrote: "alprova is the smartest person on the planet and if you don't believe it just ask him!!"

I have no idea what I did to you, but I'd appreciate it very much if you would leave me out of your little war.

Tu-quoque is a common internet troll just looking for someone to argue with and the more you ignore her, the more outrageous her posts get. Feed her if you wish, but leave me out of it.

November 1, 2012 at 7:59 p.m.
jesse said...

Hey dude! basically all jack said was that you were an offensive type person! You are AND you intend to be!that's how you get noticed!But you got a lot of company on here so don't feel picked on!When you start gittin up to the level of Nooga THEN you know you are reachin the apex of being an AZZHOLE!!

November 1, 2012 at 7:59 p.m.
conservative said...

alprova, open wide. Again, as promised another passage of Scripture you cited in support of your false claim that Jesus gave monetary assistance to the poor.

My words:

"You obviously are unaware that the assistance that Jesus gave to the poor was not monetary. Jesus healed scores of the lame, blind,deaf, sick etc.and even raisd the dead! However his greatest assistance to those in need was the forgiveness of sins- salvation."

Then yours words: "And you claim to know the Bible..." in which you followed with numerous Scripture verses falsely claiming Jesus did give monetary assistance.

Here is another Scripture passage you cited, but I will include the words :

Luke 3:10-11 10 And the people asked him, saying, What shall we do then? 11 He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.

Nowhere, I repeat nowhere here did Jesus give monetary assistance to the poor! You didn't think you would be found out?

November 1, 2012 at 8:07 p.m.
jesse said...

Al, you haven't done a thing to me BUT your demeanor on here is "teacher to retarded student"!You talk like every one else on here is inferior to you! If you are an introspective type person you might want to think about that! You make a lot of good points but you also are blinded by tunnel vision!sooner or later you got to give up the fact the Obama has warts on his ass too!

November 1, 2012 at 8:14 p.m.
alprova said...

conservative wrote: "Nowhere, I repeat nowhere here did Jesus give monetary assistance to the poor! You didn't think you would be found out?"

I offered the scriptural references to illustrate that Jesus did help the poor and he instructed those who have money, to help the poor by giving the poor money. At no time did I state that Jesus, himself, offered the poor money. As far as you and I know, Jesus had no money to give to the poor. Read this sentence again: He did instruct those who have funds to spare, to give those funds to the poor.

You posted the proof all by yourself, just today. I expect you to ignore Jesus's words, just as you have several times in the past.

"21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me."

"23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven."

"24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

conservative, feel free to cling to your bible, and all the cash you can amass, and ignore the words of Jesus. Keep your cash. Try to buy your way into Heaven. Feel free to post whatever supports that self-righteousness that ails you. You've established time and time again that you have no concern for the poor.

I'm sure that you will have a scriptural arsenal ready to fire off for God when he asks you why you hardened your heart to the needs of the poor.

Of course, you are welcome to keep posting more proof that I am correct, if you dare. I've never had someone prove my side of an issue more clearly than you have over the past two days.

You have done an excellent job of proving that you quote scripture that supports your expressed beliefs and gloss over or outright ignore that which you have publicly disagreed with.

BTW, your repeated use of the phrase "open wide" has a connotation of homosexuality that simply cannot be denied any longer. While I'm honored by your interest, I must decline your desire to fill my mouth with your love muscle.

Your turn...

November 1, 2012 at 8:48 p.m.
alprova said...

jesse wrote: "Al, you haven't done a thing to me BUT your demeanor on here is "teacher to retarded student"!You talk like every one else on here is inferior to you!"

I work to set the record straight with people who refuse to verify the truth before they post. I make no apologies and I never will for correcting misinformation or lies.

"If you are an introspective type person you might want to think about that!"

I'm not about seeking to be the most popular person in the forum.

"You make a lot of good points but you also are blinded by tunnel vision!sooner or later you got to give up the fact the Obama has warts on his ass too!"

Had you been paying attention, you might have read several times that I know full and well that the man is not perfect. Despite his warts, his mistakes, and the fact that he is not a God, I think the man deserves a second term.

And the more people attack him with no cause to do so, the more committed I am to defending him.

There are many legitimate reasons for disliking the man, but I rarely read legitimate complaints about the man. I routinely read misinformation, ignorance, and disprovable lies.

And nobody deserves to be judged by that which is not true.

November 1, 2012 at 8:59 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

What this forum needs is some more Jesse

November 1, 2012 at 11:04 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

REPUBLICANS ABANDON SHIP

More and more republicans are fleeing in horror at the thought of Mitt Romney, professional jester, winning the White House. They are scurrying like rats abandoning a doomed ship swirling into a whirlpool created by its inability to steer anywhere but starboard. Round and round they go, faster and faster, like a piece of crap circling a drain.

Obama has now received endorsements from former Secretary of State Colin Powell, republican governor Chris Christy, and now NYC mayor Michael Bloomberg.

“The devastation that Hurricane Sandy brought to New York City … brought the stakes of Tuesday’s presidential election into sharp relief,” the mayor said.

Christy sang the praises of the President’s leadership.

Bloomberg added that Obama’s, “Race to the Top education program, much of which was opposed by the teachers’ unions… has helped drive badly needed reform across the country, giving local districts leverage to… expand charter schools.

Bloomberg also supports a woman’s right to choose and marriage equality, but he weighed in heavily on climate change.

He said, “Mitt Romney… has a history of tackling climate change. As governor of Massachusetts, he signed on to a regional cap- and-trade plan designed to reduce carbon emissions 10 percent below 1990 levels.

At the time Romney wrote, “The benefits … will be long- lasting and enormous -- benefits to our health, our economy, our quality of life, our very landscape. These are actions we can and must take now, if we are to have ‘no regrets’ when we transfer our temporary stewardship of this Earth to the next generation.”

Romney couldn’t have been more right, Bloomberg said, “But since then, he has reversed course, abandoning the very cap-and-trade program he once supported. This issue is too important. We need determined leadership at the national level to move the nation and the world forward.”

The NYC mayor added that, “In the past (Romney) has also taken sensible positions on immigration, illegal guns, abortion rights and health care. But he has reversed course on all of them, and is even running against the health-care model he signed into law in Massachusetts.”

“We need leadership from the White House -- and over the past four years, President Barack Obama has taken major steps to reduce our carbon consumption, including setting higher fuel-efficiency standards for cars and trucks. His administration also has adopted tighter controls on mercury emissions, which will help to close the dirtiest coal power plants (an effort I have supported through my philanthropy), which are estimated to kill 13,000 Americans a year.”

And here’s an endorsement from the English business publication, ‘The Economist’: “For all his businesslike intentions, Mr. Romney has an economic plan that works only if you don’t believe most of what he says. That is not a convincing pitch for a chief executive.”

Abandon ship! The USS Romney is sinking fast!

November 2, 2012 at 1:34 a.m.
fairmon said...

It apears grid lock will continue which may be the best option we have with no craziness in congress being successful.

November 2, 2012 at 4:39 a.m.
conservative said...

alprova, open wide. Regarding your : "I offered the scriptural references to illustrate that Jesus did help the poor and he instructed those who have money"

No, No, No! You offered those Scriptural references to refute my statement that at no time did Jesus offer monetary assistance to the poor. You know better. Here is the exchange :

My comment :

"You obviously are unaware that the assistance that Jesus gave to the poor was not monetary. Jesus healed scores of the lame, blind,deaf, sick etc.and even raisd the dead! However his greatest assistance to those in need was the forgiveness of sins- salvation."

Then your comment, attempting (poorly at that) to refute me:

"And you claim to know the Bible..." which was followed by the many scripture references which only proved MY assertion as I have previously shown, NOT yours.

Who are you trying to fool?

November 2, 2012 at 7:40 a.m.
degage said...

I see why axelrod is so sure Obama will take the battleground states. Va, Ohio,and NV all seem to be having voter machine malfuntions. People vote for Mitt and it comes up on the Obama side. Many have caught it but how many didn't catch it.I know you libs think this is cute but it tells something about the Dems running the show at present.They believe the "the end justifies the means'.

The other thing I found out this morning is Al. sent linemen to NYC and they were turned away because they were not union. Wow, seems they would embrace any help they could get to get the city up and running ,but not the union, they would rather leave people out in the dark and cold all because of ptotectionism.

November 2, 2012 at 7:58 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

conservative, give it up. Every post you write makes you look more deluded, desperate and foolish. You don't do Christianity any service-indeed if anyone was unsure of their faith you would have destroyed it by now.

November 2, 2012 at 8:09 a.m.
degage said...

Ike, Al keeps egging him on.If Al quite answering him with his equally stupid posts and everyone quite reading cons post he might go away.

November 2, 2012 at 8:18 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Alprova handed conservative's head to him, degage. A long time ago. Conservative is desperate to hang on to his belief that the bible is inerrant, but the fact is that it is full of inconsistencies, as it should be given its long history.

November 2, 2012 at 8:34 a.m.
patriot1 said...

alpo....since Jesus was a carpenter surely he had a union card or he could not have even helped the storm victims in the northeast. Do your employees belong to a union?

November 2, 2012 at 8:48 a.m.
Leaf said...

tu_quoque is a woman? I never would have suspected, given the political stance, way, way over there to the right. I figured tu was a somewhat rednecky old white guy, like myself, except with a lot of stockpiled ammo. Of course, her posts are usually so long and full of pasted nonsense from dubious internet sources I usually just skip them.

November 2, 2012 at 8:57 a.m.
conservative said...

aprova, open wide. Regarding your "At no time did I state that Jesus, himself, offered the poor money" Are you trying to deceive?

No, you did not "state" nor did I state, that you did so state. However, as you well know, you tried (unsuccessfully) to refute my statement which was:

"You obviously are unaware that the assistance that Jesus gave to the poor was not monetary. Jesus healed scores of the lame, blind,deaf, sick etc.and even raisd the dead! However his greatest assistance to those in need was the forgiveness of sins- salvation."

Your words were:

"And you claim to know the Bible..." which was followed by numerous Scripture citations attempting (unsuccessfully) to refute me. Are you trying to deceive?

Psalm 10:7 7 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity

November 2, 2012 at 8:58 a.m.
ibshame said...

Unemployment rate stays below 8%(just barely) but the better news for some is the fact 171,000 people were able to find work. It's unimaginable at this point what the jobless claims will be following the aftermath of Sandy.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

November 2, 2012 at 9:08 a.m.
mymy said...

ibshame

The real unemployment rate is 14.6% = that's the real ibshame!

November 2, 2012 at 9:43 a.m.
mymy said...

President Obama's new policy for questions about Libya. Don't ask, don't tell.

4 Days to Go!

It is still the economy/jobs/foreign policy/direction of country/National Security here/abroad and the growing debt.

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock

Romney/Ryan 2012

November 2, 2012 at 9:46 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Hmmm. Unemployment rate up today. Change we can believe in.

November 2, 2012 at 9:55 a.m.
conservative said...

Jack Dennis

A lot of your pictures crack me up.

I once had a 66 doodle bug. Had a lot of fun in that car

November 2, 2012 at 10:23 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

mine is '67..lots of fun.

NE tells AL non-union powerline guys to "go home". That's the spirit. You morons.

November 2, 2012 at 10:32 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

No matter who wins, Americans will never look at the MSM the same. Corrupt beyond belief.

November 2, 2012 at 10:47 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

And BTW, what was that bidness about not spiking the ball???

November 2, 2012 at 10:57 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

In a speech to a packed room of Obama for America phone bank volunteers at the Democratic National Committee headquarters Thursday night in Washington, D.C., Special Assistant to the President Kareem Dale said that people with disabilities are going to be “absolutely killed” under the proposed policies of Mitt Romney and delivered a strong message to the crowd: “let’s win this motherfu**er.”

Classy

November 2, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
ibshame said...

"Jack_Dennis said... NE tells AL non-union powerline guys to "go home". That's the spirit. You morons"

Evidently the real Morons are the ones who put this lie out without bothering to check it for TRUTH AND ACCURACY.

"Huntsville, Joe Wheeler utilities deny claims of union discrimination during Sandy response"

"HUNTSVILLE, Alabama - Representatives with Huntsville Utilities and Joe Wheeler Cooperative, two area utilities mentioned in media reports claiming their crews were not allowed to help with storm aid in New Jersey because they were non-union, said this morning the story is untrue."

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2012/11/huntsville_utilities_denies_cl.html#incart_river_default

November 2, 2012 at 11:47 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

4 more days! 4 more days!

November 2, 2012 at 12:20 p.m.
ibshame said...

What is Limbaugh's point this time?

First it was a woman (he had no knowledge of whatsoever)he called a "slut" because she advocated for birth control to be paid for by the insurance companies. Now he's realllly crossed over into Twilight Zone terrain, he has accused NJ Governor Chris Christie of having something he calls "Man-Love" for President Obama. What exactly is he trying to accuse Gov Christie of? Is "Man-Love" code for being gay?

"Limbaugh Man Love, On his syndicated radio show yesterday afternoon, conservative host Rush Limbaugh went after New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie for his collaboration with President Barack Obama in assisting the recovery and rebuilding effort after Hurricane Sandy ravaged much of the state’s coastal neighborhoods.

'New Jersey Governor Chris Christie has decided to play the role of a Greek Column today for President Obama,' Limbaugh said, accusing the governor of effectively aiding the president’s electoral chances.....Limbaugh then mentioned that neither Mayor Michael Bloomberg, nor NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo have requested a “joint photo-op” from or spoken of President Obama in the wake of the storm. Yet Christie, a Republican, spent a day with the president, Limbaugh notes.

'Christie’s the only Republican not just praising Obama,' he said. 'Let’s just put it this way: Is it wrong for one man to love another man? But that man-love out there is isolated in the state of New Jersey."

http://wallstreeit.blogspot.com/2012/11/limbaugh-man-love.html

November 2, 2012 at 12:23 p.m.
delmar said...

A present for Mr. Rush (disgusting bigot) Limbaugh -

http://youtu.be/pejC6hFJcVM

November 2, 2012 at 1:09 p.m.
JustOneWoman said...

Joneses posted a video he thinks shows support of the African American by Republicans. But Joneses, this is an ad put out by investors. Not only are they friends with Rmoney, they have money riding on his ability to be elected. Follow the money...every time, all the time. Any African American knows that the Republican party has changed into weasels willing to lie, cheat, or do anything for a buck. This Republican party doesn't give a rat's azz about the African Americans, or any American for that matter.

With "citizen's United" ruling, we have no idea where this money is coming from. Joneses, can you research this and let us know for sure that this money is not coming from Saudi Arabia or another foreign country trying to sway our elections? Thanks, I knew you would know where to go look for that.

"Details on Empower Citizens Network are sketchy. It was formed in June, according to its FEC filing, but its quarterly filings in July and October showed the group had neither raised nor spent any money. FEC filings made by the group last week (here and here) show it spending about $98,000 on campaign advertising in Ohio, mostly for newspaper ads."

"Documents filed by the group with Time Warner Cable in Ohio identified Akron-area financial planner Bob Warther as the point of contact for Empower Citizens Network. Warther is listed as the group's treasurer in FEC filings (although it is spelled "Walther" in one letter to the FEC that he signed). Warther's office referred questions about the super PAC to Lance Davis at Akron-based Universal Marketing Industries. Davis did not respond to multiple requests for comment." http://news.yahoo.com/super-pac-ad-buy-urges-african-americans-ohio-210436263--politics.html

"Warther Companies, Llc is a financial investment advisory firm headquartered in Akron, Ohio. The firm manages 174 accounts totaling an estimated $50.4 Million of assets under management." http://investment-advisors.findthebest.com/l/26576/Warther-Companies-Llc

November 2, 2012 at 1:35 p.m.
JustOneWoman said...

Republican women for Obama!

November 2, 2012 at 1:46 p.m.
nurseforjustice said...

Game On, Great video. I could not agree more with his stance. Thanks for sharing.

November 2, 2012 at 1:46 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Harry Reid statement: "Romney’s fantasy that Senate Democrats will work with him to pass his 'severely conservative' agenda is laughable".

You mean, Harry, that Romney would be blocked at every turn?? Sounds sorta familiar, no?

November 2, 2012 at 2:19 p.m.
conservative said...

alprova, open wide. Regarding your "Read this sentence again: He did instruct those who have funds to spare, to give those funds to the poor."

Are you trying to deceive?

I know this, this was my point to YOU alprova, all along. Our long debate was about the role of government. It was my contention all along that YOU alprova, were to help the poor, as instructed by Jesus, not an impersonal third party Godless government.

November 2, 2012 at 2:20 p.m.
jesse said...

Alprova at 6:36 am 11/1/12

"It's is simply amazing what some people assume while looking at a picture!"

That was after only 2 folks had tried to decipher clays toon!

THIS was what i was trying to point out to you yesterday!

you posted on here the other day how you had changed your attitude?

You STILL got some work to do!!

Some on here are more gifted than others BUT no one on here needs to be ridiculed !

Actually SOME of the ones on here that think they are the most gifted are not gifted but just plain assed MEAN!!

BTW: i lurkin around waitin for TU QUE to start her daily Shat storm!

And i'm all done w/you!won't bother w/this again!!

November 2, 2012 at 2:36 p.m.
mymy said...

LOL

JustOneWoman said...

Republican women for Obama!

What a dumb ad for dumb women. Smart women think of the economy first!! Without a strong economy nothing is possible.

Just like the ad that equates voting to sex.

Leon said it pretty well:

“Have you seen that new Obama campaign ad that equates voting with sex? It’s kind of clever. It uses innuendo to try and woo young female voters.”

“Like one line says,” he continued, “'Your first time shouldn't be with just anybody. It should be with a great guy who really understands women.’"

“But, on the other hand, if it is your first time, you might want to do it with someone who doesn't need eight years to get the job done. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.”

November 2, 2012 at 2:45 p.m.
chatt_man said...

mymy - not only are you absolutely correct about people needing to have their priorities in correct order, and I do think that may be the funniest thing I've seen posted here. Eight years to get the job done. That is LMAO funny!

November 2, 2012 at 2:57 p.m.
chatt_man said...

mymy - I don't know why you put so much emphasis on the economy... If the economy goes south, the government will always be there to take care of us. Oh crap, wait a minute, maybe I need to think this through.

November 2, 2012 at 3:22 p.m.
jesse said...

My MY , this election is turning into "a ship of fools?" we are in big trouble and we got two fools ,one of which will be elected to carry us the REST of the way into perdition! What this country has to do is SURVIVE the next 4 years and hope a savior arises!I have little hope of that coming about!!

November 2, 2012 at 3:24 p.m.
mymy said...

jesse: I prefer trying to survive the next for years with Romney. Then we need to get rid of the old timers in Congress. A good start would be Harry Reid!!!!!

November 2, 2012 at 3:45 p.m.
delmar said...

Unfreakin' believable at the response of the crowd in this video,,, Mother Earth forgive us!!

November 2, 2012 at 3:56 p.m.
Leaf said...

mymy said in her comment supporting Romney, "What a dumb ad for dumb women. Smart women think of the economy first!! Without a strong economy nothing is possible."

If I may, I would like to offer a rebuttal. Mymy and many others assume that Mitt Romney would somehow speed up our economic recovery but I don't think there is any proof of that, and very few mechanisms he could employ anyway. I don't think success in one company necessarily translates to expertise regarding the entire US economy; especially Romney's type of business which was not really about building what we think of as a traditional company that provides a product or service.

I am not an economist, but trickle-down economics has been widely disproven and abandoned by most economists, so I trust them and really don't think his tax ideas would be of benefit. I do applaud his stance on simplifying regulations on business. I think reducing the number of regulations would be a very good thing. However, I don't trust his administration to always act in the best interest of the country when rewriting regulations.

Mitt Romney is a creature of the corporatocracy and his second loyalty (after the Mormon church) will be to his circle of business friends and supporters. It is undeniable that Wall Street is partly responsible for our financial meltdown, and they need to be strongly regulated for the good of the country. Most stockbrokers, after all, are not the type of people who are burdened by an excess of morality and a sense of fair play!

The last thing that gives me pause regarding Romney and the economy is his apparent stance on Middle East foreign policy. He's really taking a Hawkish stance on Iran, surrounding himself with other hawks like John Bolton, and giving signals that he'll follow along with whatever Israel wants to do. I'm concerned he might be predisposed to want to invade Iran like G. W. Bush was with Iraq. Aside from the humanitarian costs, the last thing we need is another costly war in the Middle East, just as we are trying to extract ourselves from Iraq and Afghanistan.

There are other reasons I won't be voting for Romney, but if it came down purely to economics I would still choose Obama. There aren't that many economic levers available to a President, and I think Obama is pulling them all more or less correctly. Even if Romney pulled the levers a little better it would hardly be noticeable. However the downside with Romney is bigger, if he chooses to start another Middle Eastern war.

November 2, 2012 at 4:30 p.m.
chatt_man said...

Leaf - respectively, I don't think it's that Romney would put in a lot of mechanisms, but if you talk to small and medium business owners, the reason they say they are hesitant to expand or hire currently is because Obama is not a business friendly president. They are scared that given his way, he would work mostly for social issues, rather than grow the economy thru business and employment opportunity, and just put more constraints on business. I don't think Romney has mentioned trickle down economics, has he? If so, I am incorrect. But, trickle down economics is not what most people think it is anyway. Most people will say it is the rich getting richer, so that makes jobs for others, and it doesn't work because of greed. I agree greed is bad and does exist, but when company owners feel comfortable about where their investments are headed, and the future of their taxes and expenses are predictable, they expand and more jobs open up. That's what we don't have under this president. You can speak bad of investments and profit like the Obama administration if you want, but that's what drives business and jobs.

I'm not a war fan either, but I think we get into fewer wars having a strong defense, rather than trying to convince our enemies we care about them. That doesn't mean anything to them, because they don't care about us.

November 2, 2012 at 4:55 p.m.
mymy said...

Leaf: I do not believe Romney has any intention of starting another war. Strong leadership is the answer. People do not respect weakness which Obama represents! He has the mid-east on fire because of his weakness on foreign policy. He seems to on the side of the terrorist=his friends I would say!!!!!

How is Obama economics working? He has done everything wrong!!!! It hasn't worked and 4 more years it will still not be working!!! With need a Leader in the WH who will make an environment for business to prosper and for people to get jobs, etc.

I could write a long explaination, but bottom line you are brainwashed and wrong!!!!

November 2, 2012 at 5:04 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Wow, the Las Vegas Review-Journal levels a knock out punch to Obama's smarmy face...

http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/benghazi-blunder-obama-unworthy-commander-in-chief-176736441.html

"To return to office a narcissistic amateur who seeks to ride this nation's economy and international esteem to oblivion... would be disastrous."

November 2, 2012 at 5:05 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

We need FEMA, so Bloomberg does not have to delay his marathon...

http://gothamist.com/2012/11/01/food_trucks_generators_set_up_for_s.php#photo-7

Leftist priorities for ya!

November 2, 2012 at 5:21 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Biden: 'There's Never Been A Day In The Last Four Years I've Been Proud To Be His Vice President'

Heartbeat away, folks.

November 2, 2012 at 5:21 p.m.
mymy said...

I have a hard time believing all the "close race" talk.

It is hard to believe the American people cannot see that "Obama is not working"!

Four more days and we will know unless problems arise because of Sandy or something else that delays getting the votes counted.....

November 2, 2012 at 5:23 p.m.
mtngrl said...

mymy said...

"I have a hard time believing all the "close race" talk."

Me too, Obama actually has over an 80% chance of winning at this point. There is very little time for Rmoney to make headway with that pesky electoral vote count:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

November 2, 2012 at 5:28 p.m.
mymy said...

Dream on Girl!!!!!

November 2, 2012 at 5:39 p.m.
conservative said...

alprova, open wide. Regarding your " Read this sentence again : He did instruct those who have funds to spare, to give those funds to the poor. You posted the proof all by yourself, just today."

Yes, Jesus instructed persons to give to the poor, not government as I have all along argued. Your statement implies that this was your position all along and that I differed with you. Who are you trying to fool with that?

Psalm 10:7 7 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity

November 2, 2012 at 6:40 p.m.
dude_abides said...

I will be proud of all my American brethren when we reelect the President to his second term. We will have proven, once again, that we are a free country in which all citizens have a chance to aspire and succeed. We will have proven, once again, that there are millions upon millions of us out here that are not simpletons who are given to ancient racist prejudices. We will have proven, once again, that we are willing to invest, with our vote, in a better future for our kids on a better Earth. The statement it will make to the world will be massive. They will see that the USA really are back and ready to lead the planet into the coming economic rebirth, the legerdemain of the bitter, cynical racists cast asunder. I will be so happy in my dude_abode.

November 2, 2012 at 6:44 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

mymy said: I could write a long explaination, but

Please do. Inquiring minds want to know.

November 2, 2012 at 7:03 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

So dude_: If Romney wins, it means we're a nation of racists? Is that what you're saying?

November 2, 2012 at 7:04 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Beat it, Jack_Wad, I'm on a flight of whimsy and positivity.

November 2, 2012 at 7:14 p.m.
ricardo said...

The meaning of the cartoon still baffles me.

November 2, 2012 at 7:55 p.m.
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