published Saturday, November 10th, 2012

The Breakup

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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miraweb said...

I'm kind of hoping the conservatives double-down and keep running away from the center.

That would assure they never have a majority again.

November 10, 2012 at 12:11 a.m.
MasterBlaster said...

There is no drink as sweet as the tears of a Republican voter, this election season...

November 10, 2012 at 12:14 a.m.

This picture is very inaccurate. The man is actually listening to the woman, as opposed to being deeply engrossed in his very important sports program.

November 10, 2012 at 1:58 a.m.
fairmon said...

Syrian opposition group elects George Sabra, a Communist-turned-social-democrat as their president and a member of the Muslim brotherhood as VP. That may prompt some interesting comments and comparisons by republicans. See TFP article.

November 10, 2012 at 2:31 a.m.
fairmon said...

The old man doesn't yet know what it is going to cost him. He will be supporting her in the life style to which she desires to become accustomed. The government will withhold the support money from his income for a fee, withhold expenses then borrow a staggering amount in his and her name plus that of any children including those not yet born then spread his and the borrowed money around to more people in more ways than imaginable. Some minuscule amount will go to those in need and deserving. The borrowed money will make her think the government is wealthy since the support money keeps coming so reconciliation is unlikely. He will not accept reality and will continue pretending he can influence government and cause changes in it's behavior. He will continue pretending to be a tough guy and pick fights around the world that cost him a fortune. At some point too late both will come to realize the principles of the libertarian party would have served them both better.

November 10, 2012 at 3:14 a.m.
joneses said...

The women is leaving because she cannot blame her husband anymore for her choices. Just like obastard.

I am looking forward to who you POS liberals will blame as obastard continues to fail. That is what is real entertaining.

November 10, 2012 at 7:04 a.m.
joneses said...

I hope obastard and the rest of his foolish followers continue to ruin the country so all that support him will live in the poverty they created for themselves. I have made my money and most is tucked away for me to live off of. And guess what? Obastard and you foolish liberals will never have access to it. There are many like me that are not going to produce anymore because it is not worth it.

November 10, 2012 at 7:07 a.m.
EaTn said...

The past few days feels like the week between Christmas and New Years Day. Whether you got a new set of golf clubs or an ugly tie, you know that New Years Day will be the last hurrah before a new year brings the reality back again. In Washington, it will be new team members playing with the same old rules.

November 10, 2012 at 7:08 a.m.
fairmon said...

happywithnewbulbs said...

harp3339, Well, at least you're not upset with me over it. What to do, what to do indeed.

I realy don't get upset easily and no one here can get me actually upset me. This post is from yesterday regarding compensation differentials between the working and upper management levels. It seems we agree that such exist while you think the privaste sector is worse than the public sector while I think the public sector is worse. My reason is the number in the public sector.

I agree there is a point of diminishing returns in guarding against waste and fraud. However, some are open to abuse because they don't utilize the purchasing rectangle that is used by large companies in the private sector. Governments often have poorly written spending policies and never use independent auditors that would issue publicised reports to those whose money is being spent.

November 10, 2012 at 7:09 a.m.
conservative said...

So now she will make her abode with government where she will really be happy, right?

November 10, 2012 at 7:09 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

joneses, your comments have been flagged. I'm sure you remember why. conservative, why are you back without cleaning up your mess on the last thread you crapped all over?

November 10, 2012 at 7:32 a.m.
conservative said...

By the end of Owebama's term she will be wearing 3X.

November 10, 2012 at 7:35 a.m.
timbo said...

This is absolute BS......2 years ago conservatism and the Tea party had a historic victory in the House races. President Piss ant won by the skin of his teeth in a 1.5% popular vote. Initial analysis says that basically conservatives stayed home because Romney was too moderate.

Things don't change I that much in two years. The piss ant just had a better ground game and got out the vote. This just a ploy by the Dems and the Republican establishment to water down the conservative message. McCain and now Romney both liberals and both losers. Do you really think that liberals are giving Republicans advice to change out of the goodness of their hearts? Yea, right.

November 10, 2012 at 7:56 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

timbo, sweetheart, the GOP lost because they cannot field a decent candidate. Why do you think good, credentialed Republicans like Christie, Daniels and Rubio steer clear? Because this is the party that thinks wackos like Palin, Bachmann, Santorum and Perry are suitable. Until they figure this out, they will lose.

Here are some conservative opinions on this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kathleen-parker-republicans-undermined-their-own-candidate/2012/11/09/e858bb64-2a9f-11e2-96b6-8e6a7524553f_story.html?tid=pm_opinions_pop

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/08/latourette-tea-party-response-to-romney-loss-is-crap/

November 10, 2012 at 8 a.m.
patriot1 said...

The woman's name must be Sandy (as in Hurricane Sandy) She comes in all warm, wet and wild but ends up taking the trailer, car and everything of value.

November 10, 2012 at 8:13 a.m.
delmar said...

Okay everybody - HUDDLE UP!

Remember, don't feed the trolls.

November 10, 2012 at 8:18 a.m.
conservative said...

By the end of Owebama's term she will be wearing 3X and sounding like Rosie O'Donnell.

November 10, 2012 at 8:19 a.m.
EaTn said...

From Huff Post Business today: "Matt Taibbi: Mitt Romney Would Have Won If Republicans 'Were Self-Aware At All' ". "Modern Republicans "have so much of their own collective identity wrapped up in the belief that they're surrounded by free-loading, job-averse parasites who not only want to smoke weed and have recreational abortions all day long, but want hardworking white Christians like them to pay the tab,"......obviously a majority of the voter population did not agree with this phooey.

November 10, 2012 at 8:23 a.m.
tifosi said...

Since the house is labeled GOP, I thought she was kicking out the Tea Party. That would be the best for the once Grand Old Party. The Republican Party has been ruined by the Tea Party and the longer this goes on, the farther the GOP will fall.

November 10, 2012 at 8:27 a.m.
timbo said...

Ikeithlu......well genius guess whose heading to Iowa already? Rubio, who by the way, was put in by Tea Party support. After swapping spit with President Piss ant, Christie is finished. He won't even be reelected .

You got this tripe out of the liberal Washington Post? That is your idea of conservative? Give me a break. Keep your advice to yourself.

November 10, 2012 at 8:31 a.m.
cmon_man said...

tired of people saying the only reason the President won was because he had a better "ground game". Fact is most people weren't buying what the GOP had to sell. You can put steak sauce on a turd but it's still a turd.

November 10, 2012 at 8:32 a.m.
cmon_man said...

i guess there must be a lot of people out there who can be fooled into thinking otherwise though... obviously

November 10, 2012 at 8:34 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

timbo, it's clear you belong in Iran. Haven't you heard of the first amendment? If you have any credibility, address the actual points made in those columns. Or you can continue to come across as a moron. Your choice.

November 10, 2012 at 8:35 a.m.
conservative said...

"till the provision of government do us part"

November 10, 2012 at 8:36 a.m.
timbo said...

Ikeithlu......you don't even make sense. I could care less how much you bablble. Knock yourself out.

November 10, 2012 at 8:44 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Well, that confirms a lot, timbo. I suspected you had comprehension problems.

November 10, 2012 at 8:51 a.m.
timbo said...

Comeon_man.......liberals don't usually like the truth. It was no mandate.

November 10, 2012 at 8:52 a.m.
timbo said...

Ikeithlu.......another amateur......did you run Mary Headrick's campaign?

November 10, 2012 at 8:54 a.m.
fairmon said...

EaTn said...

obviously a majority of the voter population did not agree with this phooey.

Or, the majority of voters want someone else to pick up the tab? No objection to that if taxes were raised enough to pay for it. Quit misleading people by borrowing and printing money until the money they have, be it a small amount or large, is worth very little. How many have a clue what happens if the dollar is not the world's reserve currency?

November 10, 2012 at 8:55 a.m.
alprova said...

Timbo wrote: "This is absolute BS......2 years ago conservatism and the Tea party had a historic victory in the House races."

Yeah they did, and the fact that you seem unable to face is that the Tea-Party has become a total turn-off to the American people.

Only four of the 16 Senate candidates endorsed by the Tea Party Express won on Tuesday.

"President Piss ant won by the skin of his teeth in a 1.5% popular vote. Initial analysis says that basically conservatives stayed home because Romney was too moderate."

Obama won reelection because he was supported by 93% of all African-Americans who cast votes. He was supported by 73% of all Asians, 71% of all Hispanics, and 39% of all Caucasians.

Despite all the attempts by the Republicans to finagle the results of this election in their attempts to keep people from being allowed to vote, to limit the number of voting booths at polling locations, etc., the will of the people was not diminished.

At the polling location where I have voted for the past 36 years, where no less than 15 voting booths have always been available during elections, there were 4 working machines the entire week.

I waited an hour and a half to vote. This was a first. In 36 years, I have never had to wait more than ten minutes.

"Things don't change I that much in two years."

They do when the people come to realize that they have been horribly mislead and that the true intentions of candidates running as Republicans were disguised.

"The piss ant just had a better ground game and got out the vote. This just a ploy by the Dems and the Republican establishment to water down the conservative message."

Why not face the more realistic fact that the attempt by far right-wing Conservatives to seize control of the Republican Party has been a total failure?

Why not face the more realistic fact that the majority of this nation is not Conservative? The result of this election prove that to a logical conclusion. Mitt, Paul, and the Neo-Cons thought that this election was in the bag.

Writing off the results as a failure of the Neo-Cons to show up at the polls might make you feel better, but that is not very realistic. You were out-voted and now the Republican Party is in crisis mode.

Mainstream Republicans know full and well that if they want to start winning elections, they are not only going to have to appeal to moderates, they are going to have to start legislating as moderates.

They know that it is time to start throwing Neo-Cons overboard if they want their boat to remain afloat.

"McCain and now Romney both liberals and both losers."

And yet, those were the candidates that were selected over and above more conservative ones in the primaries. You seem to forget that both men selected Neo-Con running mates, both of whom probably sunk them.

I am firmly convinced that had Romney selected Marco Rubio rather than Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney would have easily won this election.

November 10, 2012 at 8:57 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

That's okay, timbo. I will use smaller words for you in the future. I hate to bother, since no one else seems to have problems comprehending my post, but for you, darling, I will take the trouble.

November 10, 2012 at 9 a.m.
delmar said...

lkeithlu - the letter (imo) is a must read and I like the relevance to the cartoon. I think all sides need to step back from the edges and work toward the center or the whole thing will come tumbling down.

November 10, 2012 at 9:04 a.m.
rolando said...

lkeithlu, timbo is not the one out in left field here.

The Washington Post is a notoriously left-leaning Progressive part of the MSM, perhaps due to the political leanings of its "commentator/reporter" staff.

Admittedly, it occasionally comes out with something on the Right, but that is the exception. Any "reporting" the Post has or had on Conservative views has a decidedly Left-ish slant.

You want a true conservative newspaper's take, try the Washington Times...yes, it is slanted toward the Right.

November 10, 2012 at 9:09 a.m.
conservative said...

By the end of Owebama's term she will be wearing 3X and sounding like Rosie O'Donnell. Psst, this stock, traded on nasdaq, symbol pzza, set to soar!

November 10, 2012 at 9:10 a.m.
rolando said...

delmar -- The "whole thing" is already in the process of "tumbling down".

November 10, 2012 at 9:10 a.m.
miraweb said...

I'm not sure that even Rubio could overcome the "electrified fences" proposals in the primary debates. If the GOP stopped televising their primaries there might be half a chance.

November 10, 2012 at 9:10 a.m.
timbo said...

Approval.......so you obviously agree about the ground game. He barely won the popular vote!!!! It was not a mandate... Also, there would no house Repulican majority without the Tea Party. If they are so stupid and inept, quit griping....they are not a threat.

They will be back with a vengeance in 2 years.

By the way, I don't care if a liberal has a "D" or an "R" by his name. Winning with liberal republicans is not winning at all. It is about doing the right thing. When the American people get in enough trouble they will figure that out.

November 10, 2012 at 9:13 a.m.
cmon_man said...

timbow the truth is ALL I want... just not lies or half truths

November 10, 2012 at 9:14 a.m.
dougmusn said...

As much as the GOPsters wish to think women (and blacks, Latinos, gays, youth) are being driven away by not having stuff/redistribution of wealth (@joneses, @harp3339, @timbo), that's not it at all. It's mostly CONTROL and RESPECT.

Women: GET OUT OF MY UTERUS. Incessant harping on 'female issues' does not make me want to cuddle up to you.

Blacks: The legacy of racial animus lives on. If you see a white man in Chattanooga with a (legal) gun strapped on his him, you think "hooray for the second amendment". If he's black, you dial 911.

Latinos: You want us a) in your party and b) self-deporting. You cannot have it both ways.

Gays: Please give us the right to be as miserable in our marriages as you are in yours.

Youth: We recognize hipocracy and do not support it. Romney regails China on one hand while very recently moving jobs there to make money; Newt supports "family values" while being a serial adulterer; Ryan touts concern for the poor while his Catholic bishops decry the penurious policies about the very same group.

And so it goes...

It's not the MONEY, it's the POLICIES.

When you are inculcated to a Manichean world view (us/them), it's structurally hard to include new voices in the conversation. Sorry to tell you this, but evolution is real and its effects reach beyond plants and parakeets. There is social evolution and demographic evolution and things are changing. The constant is change.

Art has given us some dystopian warnings--Google "It's a cookbook!" or "Soylent Green is people!" or "Klaatu barada nikto" for some interesting perspective.

From the website www.despair.com,

EXCUSES: If you keep asking others to give you the benefit of the doubt, they'll eventually start to doubt your benefit.

November 10, 2012 at 9:15 a.m.
alprova said...

"After swapping spit with President Piss ant, Christie is finished. He won't even be reelected."

You're dead wrong about that.

New Jersey will definitely reelect Governor Christie.

November 10, 2012 at 9:16 a.m.
rolando said...

miraweb -- It would also help if the GOP changed over to closed primaries. Allowing Democrats and Independents to "help" determine the GOP presidential candidate always seemed to be a monumentally stupid idea. But, no doubt, it will continue to shoot itself in the foot.

You DID note how DeJarlais [sp] won his election in spite of everything the girly-men Tennessee GOP tried to do, right?

November 10, 2012 at 9:17 a.m.
cmon_man said...

and i'm only liberal on some issues... I approach EVERY issue with common sense and reasoning then decide how I stand

November 10, 2012 at 9:17 a.m.
conservative said...

Now she will sign up for welfare, Medicaid, food stamps, subsidized housing, free school lunches etc..

November 10, 2012 at 9:19 a.m.
ITguy said...

Denial, anger, blame. Until the Republican party accepts the fact that the majority of the population rejected their failed polices, they will continue to lose elections. They shamelessly believed that they could spend hundreds of millions of dollars on negative ads, and do everything possible to suppress the vote and put another puppet in the White House. That may have worked 12 years ago, but not now.

November 10, 2012 at 9:24 a.m.
timbo said...

Dougsman.....who cares? I don't agree with people who support liberals. These are herd voters. I don't care about their narrow selfish agendas. When we are all broke there want be any wealth to redistribute. Liberal socialist policies don't work. It is that simple. I

November 10, 2012 at 9:24 a.m.
alprova said...

Timbo wrote: "...there would no house Repulican majority without the Tea Party. If they are so stupid and inept, quit griping....they are not a threat."

Ah...now you're getting it. You can look forward to Tea-Party initiatives being voted down by their Republican peers in the next session of Congress.

"They will be back with a vengeance in 2 years."

You're nothing if not a dreamer.

The Tea-Party is existing only with the aid of oxygen tanks.

November 10, 2012 at 9:25 a.m.
rolando said...

Interesting that The Obama's percent of the popular vote was roughly 47%, give or take. Now why does that number strike a note? Evidently those who pay no federal income taxes were on his side...gee, I wonder why?

November 10, 2012 at 9:30 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

rolando, show me where Kathleen Parker is anything but a conservative.

PS-I'd be willing to bet you didn't even open the link, much less read it. Typical.

conservative, your stupid is showing. Better see to that.

November 10, 2012 at 9:35 a.m.
alprova said...

Timbo wrote: "I don't agree with people who support liberals."

Are you sure about that? I can't quite tell from the tone of your posts.

"These are herd voters. I don't care about their narrow selfish agendas."

Well...that's okay, for there are enough people in this nation who do care and who will continue to reject the Neo-Con agenda.

"When we are all broke there want be any wealth to redistribute. Liberal socialist policies don't work. It is that simple."

Well guess what? The President won reelection to another term and he has four more years to prove you totally incorrect. Unless you learn to deal with reality, you're going to be totally miserable for the next four years.

In the meantime, you are perfectly free to relocate to the country of your choosing, if America no longer appeals to you any longer.

Don't let the door hit you on your fanny on the way out.

November 10, 2012 at 9:35 a.m.
alprova said...

Rolando wrote: "Interesting that The Obama's percent of the popular vote was roughly 47%, give or take. Now why does that number strike a note? Evidently those who pay no federal income taxes were on his side...gee, I wonder why?"

You're as stupid as Mitt Romney, to offer such a statement.

It makes you feel more comfortable to make assumptions about the people who voted for the President.

But that's okay. I'm here to remind you that you are STILL dependent upon the United States Government and the true taxpaying citizens of this nation, for everything that you have and for your health care expenses...just in case you forgot that simple and undeniable fact.

November 10, 2012 at 9:42 a.m.
alprova said...

IKeithlu wrote: "conservative, your stupid is showing. Better see to that."

He's on a roll alright. He thinks it's cute and Christian to demean a woman. I guess he learned that from the Bible too.

November 10, 2012 at 9:44 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

As long as the republican party espouses imperialism, religious orthodoxy, corporatism, uncritical support of Israel, intervention in personal decisions such as abortion, drug use, and sexual relations between consenting adults, they will continue to lose.

The Santorums, Akins, Mourdocks, and Bachmans have played their religious "God" cards long enough. The Tea Party can not be for smaller government but more intrusion into personal decisions. The religious fanatics that took over the Tea Party lost the election for many republicans. Get rid of those clowns and the republican party may survive.

Otherwise the republican party will go the way of passenger pigeons.

November 10, 2012 at 9:45 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

KEEP MYTH ALIVE

If our conservative friends want to believe a hurricane cost them the White House, please don't try to change their minds. If they want to blame voter turnout or Boss Limbaugh or Karl Rove or media bias, just nod your head and say, ‘Amen!’

Sweet Jesus, let them believe they need to run candidates who want to outlaw abortion with no exceptions, who want to balance the budget by cutting taxes and raising defense spending, and all the rest.

Let them believe they need to run candidates even MORE conservative.

Bless their hearts.

November 10, 2012 at 9:50 a.m.
conservative said...

She will start smoking more but food stamps will free up money to cover the added costs. Thank you Owebama.

November 10, 2012 at 9:52 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Funny, Blackwater, indeed the opinions are varied. Although I posted above some conservatives who recognize the role that the extremists and tea party played in the loss, there were many I read that said that a more conservative candidate was needed. It's possible that without a change in leadership they'll get their butts kicked again.

November 10, 2012 at 9:54 a.m.
conservative said...

Liberal support groups will come to her aid and advise her how to milk the system.

November 10, 2012 at 9:58 a.m.

harp3339, I think you use the term "upset" in a way that's far higher in degree than me. Then again, I've noticed a lot of people who think saying they're upset is wrong, full stop. To me, it's just a statement of the degree of disagreement that's simply not reflective of an unimportance, but more significant, though not rising to the point of outrage.

But no, I've actually seen government make use not just of independent auditors, but public audits. Private companies? Hidden and concealed. Intensively. Including at some of the local hospitals. And purchasing requirements? Are seen as they want to be, which can be good...or bad.

alprova, regarding the 2010 elections, one thing I've seen bandied about is the turnout. Namely that the electorate was not necessarily representative of the whole of the American people, but skewed by one particularly upset group.

Add in the districting games, and it's no surprise that there were House victories that could not be sustained in state-wide Senate races.

No wonder Flordia's GOP fought their Constitutional Amendment that reformed the districting process.

November 10, 2012 at 10:28 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

What's next? Regulations withheld till after the election?

November 10, 2012 at 10:29 a.m.

Ah, poor GOP, not finding another thing to manufacture a hissy-fit about.

November 10, 2012 at 10:29 a.m.
conservative said...

She thinks that she is free now, free to have sex with anyone, free to experiment. Oh, freedom, wonderful freedom!

November 10, 2012 at 10:30 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Funny how all the D's know exactly what the R's need.

Backwater: R's didn't lose because they ran a conservative. They lost because they ran a NE Moderate.

November 10, 2012 at 10:31 a.m.
conservative said...

And free birth control. Free, free, free! It just keeps getting better. Thank you Owebama.

November 10, 2012 at 10:48 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Legitimate Question (if left thinks there are any legitimate questions) If Petraeus was"looking forward" to testifying on Benghazigate a few days ago, why is he now NOT going to testify? Why is that?

November 10, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Hmmmm?

November 10, 2012 at 11:06 a.m.
ricardo said...

Jack_Dennis said..."Funny how all the D's know exactly what the R's need. Backwater: R's didn't lose because they ran a conservative. They lost because they ran a NE Moderate."

Funny how the R's don't have a clue. I realize y'all are still in shock. Bless your hearts. Palin/Santorum 2016

November 10, 2012 at 11:16 a.m.
ricardo said...

Uh, maybe he realized he screwed up by getting a piece of tail and now he needs to work on his marriage?

November 10, 2012 at 11:19 a.m.
EaTn said...

Jack_Dennis said...."They (R's) lost because they ran a NE Moderate.

I believe they lost because they ran a NE'ener who couldn't decide nor convince voters if he was a moderate or extremist, as a result Obama pulled votes from the middle. The extreme R's are like the fellow in this toon; the country has changed but the R's are too inward focused to realize it.

November 10, 2012 at 11:20 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Ricardo: Maybe you would like a stab at answering the question.

November 10, 2012 at 11:28 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Yo, Ricardo

November 10, 2012 at 11:48 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

cute, noogs. But not a one of you leftist loons will attempt to answer the question.

November 10, 2012 at 11:58 a.m.
fairmon said...

hwtnbsaid....

But no, I've actually seen government make use not just of independent auditors, but public audits. Private companies? Hidden and concealed. Intensively. Including at some of the local hospitals. And purchasing requirements? Are seen as they want to be, which can be good...or bad.

A good purchasing process is:

1-Writes the requisition for goods or services.

2-A higher level employee budget responsible approves

3-places the order with the vendor

4-assures 1-3 are in order and pays the invoice.

An annual independent audit assures the process is followed and unusual or fliers are investigated. Abuse would require four people and an auditor to be in collusion.

The difference in government and private industry is those in the private for profit businesses with competition will soon meet their demise if loosely operated. Government operations with no profit motive or competition are not vulnerable. Government is a lot like not for profit charities with administrators living well with a low percent of their revenue reaching the targeted need.

I am aware of the use of independent auditors by the government of an entity being investigated. You may know of the rare use of them internally to audit a government entity, I am not. An audit may not reveal liberal spending such as several employees and spouses traveling by air across country to a vendor presentation with all expenses paid including entertainment for the spouses each day. A week end included so the employees could participate in even more elaborate and costly activities. Apparently approved by management in the operation. The FBI appeared to be one government operation that did not abuse or misuse funds and as a result may not be well funded. I acknowledge my observations and conclusions result from interacting with various agencies while in the private sector with limited observation, not personal knowledge and audits.

November 10, 2012 at 12:06 p.m.
fairmon said...

hwrnb...

I ejoyed the exchange. Have a good day.

November 10, 2012 at 12:08 p.m.
joneses said...

ike,

Wow you sure are mean flagging my post like that. You might want to take a pill or go see your nut doctor as you are getting out of control.

Another fine example of liberal hypocrisy is the liberals supporting this spoiled rotten trust fund mayoral candidate Andy Berke who never attended public schools. Andy Berke is a perfect example of a person being handed everything as his grandfather started the family owned law practice where his father is an attorney and he is an attorney as well. I would bet he has not one penny of student loans as I am sure his daddy paid for all his college. Bob Corker worked for everything he has and you POS hypocritical liberals attack him for being wealthy. Why are you not attacking Andy Berke? I know because you are hypocrites. Admit it.

I also saw where Andy Berke announced he was going to fight crime. duuuh

I will only vote for someone who has business sense. A vote for Andy Berke is a vote to inject another lying attorney into politics and I think we have enough of them already in obastard, hillary, billary and others.

November 10, 2012 at 12:22 p.m.
cmon_man said...

don't forget little chucky fleishman

November 10, 2012 at 12:34 p.m.

harp3339, you've described an ideal process. Reality sets things up differently. For example, my experiences:

  1. Employee knows what they need, but spends pointless time justifying the purchase.

  2. Manager tries to prove they're cutting costs, so imposes a cheaper alternative that doesn't work as well. But manager gets a bonus for saving money!

  3. Another employee finds a way to get a cut, by going to their even cheaper and less legitimate supplier.

  4. Justifies their existence by complaining that employee one wasted money. Gets a bonus!

  5. Comes in, and deals with the mess caused by not just doing what employee 1 wanted. By burying the truth.

  6. Lawyer comes in, and reveals the truth, gets a cut of the lawsuit from customer zero!

Well, at least we're getting more people jobs. Yay?

But I've seen quite enough private companies meander around for years screwing customers to question which truly go out of business. OTOH, I've also seen many government entities go through so much effort to justify doing their job that they get even less done.

For example, I'm quite aware of more than a few private companies that engage in just that kind of behavior you deplore, while a government agency gets under the inquisition because somebody misinterpreted how a program was billed. Meanwhile real problems by private sector contractors on the government dime go uninvestigated.

Yay!

November 10, 2012 at 12:36 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Glad to be of service, Francis. Keep calling the president a bastard, and maybe you'll get banned so you will have more time to run your imaginary business and fire your imaginary workers.

November 10, 2012 at 1:03 p.m.
joneses said...

ike

I have been calling that fool you support in the White House obastard for a long time on here and no one has done nothing. You are a pussy francis.

November 10, 2012 at 1:26 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Just keep it up, Francis. It will happen eventually. Fired those imaginary workers yet? Or are you too busy trying to figure out how your neighbors have sex?

November 10, 2012 at 1:30 p.m.
cmon_man said...

wouldn't it be nice, since this is a newspaper forum, for our kids to be able to read from these comments and see a good example of how mature people debate the political process? wouldn't it be nice for adults to be good examples to our future generations?

November 10, 2012 at 1:32 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

wishful thinking, cmonman, but I'm afraid this is the Jersey Shore generation. Although, I am not sure what joneses excuse is-I think he is older than I am, and I am 52. With his potty mouth and obsession with kinky sex, I am beginning to suspect he is actually an 18 year old in his parents' basement.

November 10, 2012 at 1:37 p.m.
cmon_man said...

with the garbage on TV like Jersey Shores these days it is not only a good idea to lead by example but it is our absolute responsibility... otherwise the kids don't stand a chance... after all, even though adult oriented, these are still cartoons and kids will look at cartoons

November 10, 2012 at 1:54 p.m.
miraweb said...

Jack - I am pretty sure that just resigning your government job doesn't give you total immunity from a Congressional subpoena.

If Congress wants to hear what David Petraeus has to say they only have to ask.

He's got two major problems. His marriage and the fact that the CIA has special rules about affairs (similar to the new rules that the Secret Service now operates under).

It is a real loss of talent to the country.

November 10, 2012 at 1:56 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

I wish it were as easy as just walking away and getting a legal divorce from these regressive neanderthals that comprise the Republican party. Unfortunately we're stuck with the self-absorbed, self-righteous, bloviating SOBs, and they will never cease their bitching and moaning about what they think "traditional" America should be, which is a nation run by rich old white men looking backward, not forward. Instead of dealing with real world issues and accepting the inevitable changes that occur in society, they're lost in their Ozzie-and-Harriet type of utopia from the past, which never really existed in the first place. They all like to think they're "Atlas," propping up the entire nation on the strength of their rugged individualism when in essence they're more like the guy in the 'toon here, with their heads stuck in Faux News 24/7 and constantly boasting of their self importance.

It's clear that we have two entirely different visions for what course this country is to take and no amount of debate is going to change anyone's opinions on either side. It's like we're having two totally different conversations, defining reality in totally opposite ways.

There are only two probable courses of events that will change things: outright revolution or a total economic collapse that will force the entire nation to restructure itself. Personally I don't want to see either one happen but one or the other seems inevitable.

I truly wish we could just have an amicable parting of the ways, based on our "irreconcilable differences." But then, how would we carve up the land, deciding who gets what parts? Anyway, it's not in the nature of conservatives to just leave people alone and let them be. No doubt they would come gunning for us before long, telling us how we're living in sin and they're feeling threatened by our peaceful social-democratic state. Evil and all that.

Conservatives....ugh...ya can't live with 'em, and... well, 'nuff said...ya can't live with 'em.

November 10, 2012 at 2:13 p.m.
fairmon said...

happywithnewbulbs said... harp3339, you've described an ideal process. Reality sets things up differently. For example, my experiences:

Employee knows what they need, but spends pointless time justifying the purchase.

That is not necessary if the process is set up correctly.

Manager tries to prove they're cutting costs, so imposes a cheaper alternative that doesn't work as well. But manager gets a bonus for saving money!

The manager should not be involved in that part of the process. The sources are identified annually via reverse bidding to avoid the cost of shopping manpower. The oh look how much I saved but fails to realize how much time was spent to do that

Another employee finds a way to get a cut, by going to their even cheaper and less legitimate supplier.

Not acceptable.

Justifies their existence by complaining that employee one wasted money. Gets a bonus!

If that gets a bonus then that entity deserves what they get.

It does sound like you have seen government in action or some small operation that has no principled managing process.

Comes in, and deals with the mess caused by not just doing what employee 1 wanted. By burying the truth.

Sounds a lot like PP management which does exist and why I am paid well to find the weaknesses in their managing processes and recommend solutions to improve safety, cost, quality etc.

November 10, 2012 at 2:46 p.m.
joneses said...

Liberals like Ike or is it ouch! or francis, rickeroo and happywithbeingapervert pride themselves on supporting a fool in the White House who lacks the leadership to compromise, abandons an ambassador leaving him to be brutally murdered, and is a complete failure who did not get one democrat to vote for his budget, and has not even had a budget during his time occupying the White House and they have the gaul to say Republicans are bad. All you liberals have been made a fool of and it is hilarious watching you suffer. The worst for you is yet to come. People like me will not be affected as there is no tax on wealth like obastard would like you to believe. Obastard only wants to raise the income tax on what people earn. I lower my income where I make less than $250,000.00 per year or is it $150,000.00 per year, or is it $200,000.00 per year or whatever obastard's number is today I avoid a tax increase. You are fools to think obastard is being honest with you. You all are amazingly stupid.

November 10, 2012 at 2:56 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Joneses (AKA Scrotum Jones) wrote: "You all are amazingly stupid."

I find that rather funny coming from Jonese who posted here. 5th post from the top. http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/nov/09/approval-for-same-sex-marriage-chattanooga-times/#comments

I think we have finally found someone of whom it can truly be said doesn't know his ass (or scrotum) from a hole in the ground.

Thanks Joneses. You give new meaning to religious right-wing fundamentalism and lots of laughs at your expense.

November 10, 2012 at 3:28 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Stop pretending that you are not Francis, joneses.

Nice thing is that we don't even have to bait you anymore. You come on here and make yourself look bad without prompting. It will be a shame if you get banned because you are only helping the liberal cause, but I will flag your comments if they cross the line anyway. Just for the kids, I guess.

November 10, 2012 at 3:36 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

RIGHT AGAIN, JACK

Jack the Jester wrote,"R's didn't lose because they ran a conservative. They lost because they ran a NE Moderate."

A true conservative would have easily beaten Obama, but the republican establishment thought Mitt Romney had the best chance to win. They knew he had the money to obliterate his primary competition with negative TV ads. Once nominated he would just shake the etch-o-sketch, pivot 180 from the primary, and presto! He's a moderate again.

Too bad the republican party didn't run Rick Perry or Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum (don't google him) or Herman Caine or Michele Bachmann or...

Well, you get the idea. Stick to your guns, Jack the Jester. Todd Akin is out of work now. I'm sure you'll join me in hoping the GOP starts grooming him for 2016. At least Todd is ONE republican who had the brass to publicly acknowledge conservative planks in the real GOP Platform.

But beware! Did you know conservative republican pundits are suggesting tossing conservative principles overboard just to get a few more votes?

Don't let them get away with it!!

November 10, 2012 at 4:16 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Blackwater, a true fiscal conservative might have won if social issues were off the table. What makes even fiscal conservatives mad is the tendency for the GOP to take outdated stances on gays, abortion, immigration, prayer in school, evolution; distracting the electorate from any answers they may have for the economic issues. The list you gave as alternatives did exactly that, and appealed as a result to a narrow group-too narrow to win a national election.

November 10, 2012 at 4:28 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Great cartoon, Clay Bennett. Attitudinally, the GOP’s perspective on women stinks – in every way. The only sector of the U.S. population that the GOP is concerned about is its billionaires.

November 10, 2012 at 4:37 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

backwater: Most conservatives disavow Todd Akin, buttwipe.

November 10, 2012 at 4:45 p.m.
patriot1 said...

"'till daylight do us part" I would say this toon depicts someone he picked for a one nighter or a few days at most just from the way she is packed. He has refused to out and get her birth control and now she has to turn to the government. Good one Clay!!!

November 10, 2012 at 4:58 p.m.
joneses said...

Mountainlaurel or Sandy,

You are really that stupid to believe that aren't you? Amazing that the largest single supporter of the dummycratic party is billionaire George Soros. Please keep showing us your stupidity itis quite entertaining. Do you really think that the only voting block the Republicans care about are the few billionaires in this country? Man you are stupid.

November 10, 2012 at 5 p.m.
joneses said...

An example of liberal hypocrisy.

Freedom of Speech: Our First Amendment right of freedom of speech includes speech that may cause anger, disgust, or disagreement. Liberals pretend that when they say things against the government, the establishment, for example, that they are exercising their right to free speech, and they are. But ask them if Fox News should be thrown off the air and listen to what they say. Not all of them, of course, just the ones who have already been born and are still changing oxygen into carbon dioxide. If you don't believe that, go to Youtube and see the videos on college campuses that ask the question about this subject, and also about books by conservatives like Bill O'Reilly. If it were up to liberals, only they would have freedom of speech.

November 10, 2012 at 5:02 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

fair points, jones

November 10, 2012 at 5:05 p.m.
delmar said...
November 10, 2012 at 5:23 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Bill O'Reilly? The "the tide goes in and goes out but no one knows why" Bill O'Reilly?

November 10, 2012 at 5:24 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Joneses rants: “You are really that stupid to believe that aren't you? Amazing that the largest single supporter of the dummycratic party is billionaire George Soros. Please keep showing us your stupidity . . . Do you really think that the only voting block the Republicans care about are the few billionaires.”

Believe you need to stop, look and listen, Joneses. Clearly, the GOP will cut and vote against anything to pay for tax cuts for billionaires – Head Start, public education, Pell grants, Medicaid, health care, Social Security. You name it and they’ll cut it if it helps billionaires.

November 10, 2012 at 5:47 p.m.
joneses said...

mountainlaurel,

You are that stupid aren't you. Being a billionaire means you have billions of dollars and means you are wealthy. Obastard is not imposing a tax on wealth. Obastard is imposing a higher income tax on people making over $250,000.00 per year. It will not affect billionaires stupid but it will have a very huge negative on many small business owners. Their are only a little over 400 billionaires in America and all are not Republicans stupid. You that stupid to think that is all the Republicans are concerned about. Are you so stupid to think that the Republicans only focus is to make billionaires more wealthy? You are ridiculous. Gosh you are dumb. Hussein Obama cut Medicare to the tune of 716 billion dollars. Man you are stupid. Go get your head out of your ass.

November 10, 2012 at 6 p.m.

harp3339, you're the one who wanted the process, and the consequences of it are justifications, and you're the one who said higher-level employee. That's translated as manager to me.

And no, this is found in large and small enterprises. Heck, I've seen individuals lose themselves in the process they set up for themselves.

Even including hiring somebody to recommend solutions.

Yay for employment!

mountainlaurel: Not defense! Well, not defense spending.

joneses, given what you've suggested be done to liberals, you're not exactly one to speak.

But do keep up your faux indignation!

The conceit of the right-wing is that they think nobody notices their hypocrisy.

November 10, 2012 at 6:07 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

tu, I am happy to discuss the contents of my posts with the TFP staff. I am confident that I have never crossed the line into indecency. You, on the other hand, can be pretty foul. I believe that one can articulate one's position without obscene language or referring to sex acts that are not one's business. If you can't then you have no position at all.

November 10, 2012 at 6:36 p.m.
fairmon said...

ml said to joneses...

Clearly, the GOP will cut and vote against anything to pay for tax cuts for billionaires – Head Start, public education, Pell grants, Medicaid, health care, Social Security. You name it and they’ll cut it if it helps billionaires.

Those and others should all be cut, in fact eliminated in their current form, but I don't make the connection to how that will help billionaires who already pay no or low tax rates due to their investments that are tax exempt.

ml...if I didn't know better I would think you were an expert on the republicans and didn't like them at all and you would prefer a one party dictatorial environment or two parties that agreed with each other? mmmmm I wonder what that would lead to? Do you think the constitution is out dated and the principles no longer apply or that it should not be interpreted literally?

November 10, 2012 at 6:43 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I flag posts because the TFP has standards of conduct. If you have problems with that, take it up with them.

November 10, 2012 at 6:47 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Joneses rants furiously: “You are that stupid aren't you. . . Obastard is not imposing a tax on wealth. Obastard is imposing a higher income tax on people making over $250,000.00 per year. It will not affect billionaires stupid but it will have a very huge negative on many small business owners. . . You are ridiculous. Gosh you are dumb. Etc.”

Please, Joneses. President Obama has been very supportive of small companies and you know it. The Small Business Jobs Act not only cut taxes for small companies, but it also made it a lot easier for them to obtain federally guaranteed loans. As to the next four years, President Obama has made it clear that he will continue to support small business owners, but in the end you and I both know that it will be Congress and not President Obama who will have the final say in how much anyone, including small business owners, will pay in taxes.

November 10, 2012 at 6:48 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

tu, if the TFP does not want to "ban" commenters they need a "bathroom wall" where those that want to exchange posts filled with sexual references and bad language can do so all they like. It would be nice if we adults could have decent conversation without that distraction.

November 10, 2012 at 6:50 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

and your point is...?

November 10, 2012 at 7:14 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

If people flag my posts, fine. If the TFP staff thinks they are out of line, that's their call. Though, I doubt they will ban me in the face of far more obscene posts from the likes of you, tu. If you really have something valid and intelligent to say you can do so without obscenity.

November 10, 2012 at 7:18 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

House asks Clinton to testify on Benghazi, but she declines due to scheduling conflict.....

You can't make this stuff up, folks.

November 10, 2012 at 8:17 p.m.
alprova said...

It's official now. The President won Florida.

The final electoral count; 332 - 206.

Bye bye Neo-Cons...

November 10, 2012 at 8:36 p.m.
miraweb said...

Secretary Clinton's travel schedule is a matter of public record. If the House wants her to attend, they can schedule when she's on this side of the world or they can subpoena her - neither of which they have done.

Her schedule next week is Australia, Singapore, Thailand, Burma, and Cambodia.

Sounds like a conflict to me.

November 10, 2012 at 8:39 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

House asks Clinton to testify on Benghazi, but she declines due to scheduling conflict....

JD, news from the Washington Examiner. Bwahahahahahaha!!!! worse than fox. This is a non issue, but the WE makes it one.

November 10, 2012 at 8:48 p.m.
miraweb said...

ikeithlu - Most of the rest of us have just started skipping over TQQ's postings. You can still report her, and it is reasonable - but telling her about it just seems to feed the fire.

She's fallen off into troll-land and giving her antics more attention won't help.

Some blogs have an "ignore" function that drops a poster off the display for you. That would be a nice addition here.

PS - I liked your Bill O'Reilly comment.

November 10, 2012 at 8:54 p.m.
miraweb said...

It is funny how badly a party can lose a major election over wasting its credibility on faux outrage.

When it continues to do so even after the beating - it just becomes a little sad.

November 10, 2012 at 8:59 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

So Lu, you prefer the NYT and WAPO, huh? Perhaps the Boston Globe? Makes sense.

November 10, 2012 at 9:02 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Thanks, mira! You know I have never flagged any of tu's comments, because like you I stopped reading them. Maybe joneses should take a hint: make your rants too long to bother with and you will go unnoticed and avoid flags!

November 10, 2012 at 9:03 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I look at a variety of sources before I decide a story has merit, JD. You should too. If only one (and heavily biased) source is making it an issue, it is probably not.

November 10, 2012 at 9:06 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Good advice, Lu. You're so balanced.

November 10, 2012 at 9:11 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

It goes both ways: outrage reported on CNN or MSNBC can be checked against WSJ or Fox. If nothing shows the story fall off the front page pretty quickly.

November 10, 2012 at 9:14 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 said: “Those and others should all be cut, in fact eliminated in their current form.”

Eliminated in their current form? What are you saying, Harp3339?

Specifically, what alternate form are you proposing for programs like Head Start, public education, Pell grants, Medicaid, health care, Social Security?

Harp3339 said: “I don't make the connection to how that will help billionaires who already pay no or low tax rates due to their investments that are tax exempt.”

Please, Harp3339. Who are you trying to fool? There is a reason why billionaires like David Siegel, Jack Welch, Sheldon Adelson, Donald Trump, and the Koch Brothers spent so much money trying to get Romney elected – these people are obsessed with their marginal tax rates.

November 10, 2012 at 9:34 p.m.
alprova said...

Yu_Quoque wrote: "If you adhere to the Libtard Meme that whites won’t vote for President BullSh!t because they are racist then the “take-away” from that statement is very clear."

I made no reference to anyone being racist. I merely pointed out that the President was reelected with the aid of overwhelming majorities by those of other races than Caucasians.

If anything can be extrapolated from my citing the facts, it might be that America will likely no longer be managed by white people.

Regardless of what you or anyone else might offer as the reason that the majority of people who voted for Mitt Romney were Caucasian, the fact is that the lowest racial percentage voting for President Obama, were Caucasians.

"39% of whites will vote for a minority candidate however only 7% of all African-Americans, 27% of all Asians, and 29%% of all Hispanics would vote for a white candidate."

I doubt very seriously that the majorities of any group, with the exception of perhaps African-Americans, voted for President Obama STRICTLY due to his race.

"That appears to show that whites are more tolerant to vote for a minority and possibly less racist than minority voters who are resistant to voting for a white candidate"

Again, I don't understand why you think I was presenting those percentages to illustrate anything other than as it was presented.

I'm lily white, and yet I am around other lily white people all day long who cannot believe the outcome of this election, nor can they understand why it is that Mitt Romney lost.

Romney would have won had it been up to white voters. But as we all now are keenly aware, America is finding out very fast that minorities are deeply involved in the electoral process and the day of disregarding minority concerns is over...forever.

"Very strange that you would post something so revealing about you associates but maybe you were just too ignorant to notice it’s significance in your rush to post quantity over quality."

As usual, your brain took the wrong off-ramp off the Interstate. I have no idea what you are thinking at the moment. You're making much more of my previous post than I ever suggested.

Timbo was more comfortable in suggesting that Romney lost the election due to Conservatives staying at home. I merely presented the simple fact that the President won due to support from a wide spectrum of voters, who are known for supporting Democrats.

I in no manner suggested that racism by any group had a thing to do with the outcome of this election.

But if you're denying that there are people who did not vote for the President because he is black, then you're full of crap.

I've stated it before, and I'll state it again; If I had a dollar for every time I have heard someone refer to the President by the "N" word over the past four years, I'd be able to retire a very wealthy man.

Bigotry is alive and well in this nation, especially here in the South.

November 10, 2012 at 9:37 p.m.
ricardo said...

Here's your new Repube party:

WASHINGTON — On a conference call with House Republicans a day after the party’s electoral battering last week, Speaker John A. Boehner dished out some bitter medicine, and for the first time in the 112th Congress, most members took their dose.

Their party lost, badly, Mr. Boehner said, and while Republicans would still control the House and would continue to staunchly oppose tax rate increases as Congress grapples with the impending fiscal battle, they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that marked so much of the last two years.

Members on the call, subdued and dark, murmured words of support — even a few who had been a thorn in the speaker’s side for much of this Congress.

It was a striking contrast to a similar call last year, when Mr. Boehner tried to persuade members to compromise with Democrats on a deal to extend a temporary cut in payroll taxes, only to have them loudly revolt.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/11/us/politics/boehner-tells-house-gop-to-fall-in-line.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

November 10, 2012 at 10:24 p.m.
miraweb said...

Nate Silver has finished his accuracy calculations for the major polls in this election. He found a consistent bias for those that only do polling with landlines.

The switch to the internet and mobile phones is starting to become important in polling.

IBD/TIPP, Google, Rand and CNN were in the top five.

Rasmussen, ARG, Mason-Dixon, and Gallup were in the bottom five.

It turned out that 538 only missed one race in the election - in North Dakota. They were dead on for all the rest.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/#more-37396

November 10, 2012 at 10:26 p.m.
alprova said...

Tu_quoque wrote: "They may not be the majority but they outnumber Libtards 2 to 1 and are in greater numbers than moderates whose numbers are declining."

That's only part of the story.

Gallup's poll claims that 40% of people claim to be conservatives. 35% identify as moderate. 21% identify as liberal. Sounds clear-cut, doesn't it?

When asked a follow-up question as to how people vote, Gallup found that 40% vote as independents. 31 percent vote as Democrats. 27% vote as Republicans.

Do you want to know why a discrepancy exists? It's because there is no clear definition of a Conservative. One can view themselves as politically conservative, but many will balk if asked if they are a religious conservative.

At the same time, there are people who would never admit to being Liberal, even if they are Liberal and vote as a Liberal.

Look at how you refer to Liberals. You call them "Libtards." Even if some people are Liberal, they are less likely to admit to being Liberal, in order to spare them an ounce of indignation by those like yourself.

Instead, they slip into a voting booth and cast their votes with a smile on their face, mentally flipping people like yourself the bird while they do it.

And you had better get used to it, because if our just reelected President happens to make good use of this second chance, as I predict he will, Republicans are going to fall like dominoes in 2016.

So you keep rooting for the Republicans and be sure to keep pickin' on people every day. You were posting last week in a furious procession of negativity, as if a thing you offered made an ounce of difference.

You're free to believe whatever you wish, but the one thing you will never be able to do is to change reality. And the reality is that Republican/Conservatives in this nation, despite being the largest idealogical group, are going to find themselves frustratingly out-voted more and more.

November 10, 2012 at 10:47 p.m.
miraweb said...

Obama Wants Your Skateboard (and your horse and buggy)


This one is too good not to share. From the mad little dreamland of the Tea Party email list comes this little gem:


In the name of a national emergency (which Obama has yet to define which, in turn, means he can define it any way he wants) he can grab ALL forms of transportation civilians use, including:

  • Automobiles, trucks and delivery vehicles

  • Boats and ships

  • Your cars, your children’s cars and even grandma’s car

  • City buses

  • Trains

  • Airplanes

  • Motorcycles

  • Bicycles

  • Scooters, skateboards and wagons

  • Horse and buggies

  • Snowmobiles

  • Tractors (Yes, some people drive to town on tractors)

A secret plan went into action right under our noses a few months ago—the very plan the Blame Stream Media deliberately hid from the American people.


The email continues:


All usable water from all sources:

  • Mississippi River

  • The Great Lakes

  • Colorado River and all rivers

  • All ponds

  • All wells

  • All water sheds

  • All snow melts

  • All bottled water companies

Yep, COMPLETE GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF IT ALL!!!! If this does not frighten you out of your wits, I don’t know what will. The Tea Party Research Team is discovering more everyday about “America’s Fraud President.”


I would like to say that you just can't make this stuff up but apparently somebody can. I just have to wonder if the President is planning to keep the snowmelt and the Mississippi River in the Lincoln Bedroom or, maybe, down near the China Room.

November 10, 2012 at 10:51 p.m.
alprova said...

Aw shucks, it looks like another Tea-Party favorite has bit the dust.

Allen West lost his reelection bid by 2,442 votes.

But the man is refusing to concede. He's vowing to go to court to force a recount. He's publicly called for an impounding of all ballots and voting machines, which a judge denied him.

It seems there is a group that is coming to his rescue. "Revive America," calling itself a conservative movement, has sent out an e-mail to fellow conservatives;

"Dear Patriot, Conservative hero Allen West is in the midst of a brutal recount. The Liberals threw everything they had at him in this election and couldn't defeat him outright. So now they are trying to STEAL this election."

Isn't that special?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/10/rep-west-awaits-final-vote-count-possible-next-move/

November 10, 2012 at 11:04 p.m.
miraweb said...

Womens' Votes Are A Majority At 53%

In this election, it became abundantly clear that women's issues are not fringe issues, and women are not a special interest group.

Instead it was women who cast the bulk of the votes this election - 53%, and women who proved the deciding factor, breaking in Barack Obama's favour by 11 percentage points.

It wasn't enough. Women, says the pollster Norm Ornstein, are just as concerned with the economy as men. But their view of the economy tends to be more complex - they want both a robust employment rate and a strong social safety net if things go wrong.

Women are also more likely to see issues like health care and reproductive choice as part of the economic discussion, not distractions from the "real issues."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20231337

November 10, 2012 at 11:13 p.m.
miraweb said...

Tea Partier Joe Walsh Also Out

This is the perfect video of What Happened to the Republicans. A stunning 2 minutes 10 seconds of an Angry White Guy yelling - at his own constituents.

For some strange reason, Joe - Illinois is just not that into you.

November 10, 2012 at 11:48 p.m.
fairmon said...

The democrats have successfully used the tea party label when in fact there is no party named tea. Any candidate or group of people can call themselves or be labeled tea party. There is no central TPNC chairman or coordination like the DNC or the RNC. Any crazy radical (see Bachmann) can claim they are affiliated with "the tea party" although that does not mean an endorsement or support from every group identifying themselves as tea party.

November 11, 2012 at 9:17 a.m.

Oh, there's no Tea Party group?

You should have told all the people waving those banners and forming various groups that they don't exist.

Yeah, anybody can call themselves anything, that's why the Freedom Party of Freedom is a known lie, but that doesn't stop the rest of us from observing the whole.

And Michelle Bachmann is not a Republican outlier, any more than Allen West is.

Anybody on the Republican side who wanted to do so could have denounced them, just like any respectable conservatives here could speak out against some of the trolls to be found.

Silence speaks volumes.

November 11, 2012 at 12:48 p.m.
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