published Thursday, November 22nd, 2012

Bon Appétit

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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John_Proctor said...

ROTFLMAO! Good one, Clay.

November 22, 2012 at 12:07 a.m.
hambone said...

What amuses me is all of the excuses some of the characters in this cartoon have made to their billionaire benefactors as to why they lost the election.

Maybe they would fell better is we took up a small collection and bought them all a "2nd Place Trophy".

November 22, 2012 at 4:10 a.m.
Reardon said...

I like the change from your usual artistry, Clay.

Pretty funny, too.

November 22, 2012 at 4:49 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

A "Crow Banquet" . . . I love it . . . and those on the guest list are so deserving.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. . . I hope you have an enjoyable day.

November 22, 2012 at 6:24 a.m.
limric said...

Great cartoon Clay. And certainly apropos.

This Thanksgiving, I’ll give thanks not for the re-election of Obama, but that a living symbol of plutocracy was soundly defeated on November 6.

But let’s not forget, during his first term did he not betrayed the values voters used to differentiate themselves from the Bush administration— openness, accountability, the rule of law, the safeguarding civil liberties, protection of unions, Wall Street regulation, illegal arms sales, continuance of unjust war, and the increased use of drones.

Be vigilant Obama supporters on this day. For if not, you may very well have relegated us another four year serving of turkey.

I suppose it’s better than the ‘cake’ the characters in the cartoon would have let us eat though.

BURP! {:-O

November 22, 2012 at 7:36 a.m.
dude_abides said...

You can get anything you want

at Ann Romney's Restaurant (except the White House).

November 22, 2012 at 8:12 a.m.
najones75 said...

Hopefully, after the next four years, we won't have the same unemployment rate (actually worse) and another $7 trill in deficits. The numbers don't lie, and they're not debatable. And if those things happen, God help us all.

Finally, you won. Act like you've been there before, people.

November 22, 2012 at 8:20 a.m.
EaTn said...

The Romney family is having a similar disappointed experience today as many of our families across the country. Disappointments come in all varieties from loneliness to not enough to feed the family. Mitt, with all his wealth, is experiencing the disappointment of dashed hopes and dreams.

November 22, 2012 at 8:36 a.m.
tifosi said...

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

November 22, 2012 at 8:57 a.m.
jjmez said...

najones, the economy will improve when Republicans in Congress and the House stop holding their breath until they turn blue in the face like little children, in an effort to sabotage everthing President Obama and his administration has attempted to accomplish. With all those attempts to sabotage, the president has still made great gains. And don't forget, the deficit actually doubled by trillions under Bush. You can't go around starting multiple wars around the globe then inch out pennies to fight and pay for them; hiding the bulk of your money in some offshore account.

November 22, 2012 at 10:12 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

limric: You prefer an autocrat over a plutocrat? Silly? Maybe. No sillier than your statement.

November 22, 2012 at 10:19 a.m.
miraweb said...

Excellent 'toon!

I am grateful, not least of all, that election season has ENDED.

Happy Thanksgiving!

November 22, 2012 at 10:29 a.m.
joneses said...

I have never witnessed so much hate from a liberal like clay bennett.

November 22, 2012 at 10:30 a.m.
joneses said...

President Obama has several stated ambitions for his presidency. He wants it to be “transformative.” He wants to unite Americans of all parties. He wants to build an economy from the middle class out (whatever that means), and he wants to help what you might call the domestic refugees of America’s economic transformation.

Given the principled disagreements dividing Left and Right in America, it’s hard to see how he can accomplish these goals when it comes to conventional economic policy.

But there is one area where Obama could be transformative and bipartisan while helping both the middle class and the poor. He could show some leadership on the state of the black family, and the American family in general.

The thought came to me when a friend pointed me to a column by the Washington Post’s Courtland Milloy about how blacks are fleeing baseball at an alarming rate. Today, only 8 percent of the baseball players are black. In 1959, black participation was more than twice as high at 17 percent. In 1975, the high-water mark, the rate was 27 percent.

The reasons for the decline are many and controversial, but one cited by Milloy is that baseball is a game taught by fathers, while basketball and football are more often taught by peers in pickup games.

Gerald Hall Jr., the director of a youth-baseball program in Washington, D.C., told Milloy: “If you did a survey, I believe you’d find that the one thing average and above-average players have in common is a father. Baseball is, at heart, a father-and-son sport. And if you’re a kid that has nobody to throw to, nobody to talk to, nobody to discipline you in the way that baseball demands, you’re not likely to play the game.” This struck me as more poignant than the usual bleak statistics about the black family. And they are bleak. About 70 percent of black kids are born out of wedlock. The out-of-wedlock birthrate for whites (29 percent) is now higher than what it was for blacks (24 percent) when Daniel Patrick Moynihan issued his (in)famous 1965 report, “The Negro Family: The Case for National Action.”

November 22, 2012 at 10:32 a.m.
joneses said...

Although it’s certainly true that the kids of some single parents can do very well, particularly if those solo parents have the financial or social resources to carry the load (just look at Obama’s own childhood), it is also the case that as a generalization, kids from single-parent homes do worse. In other words, it may be better to have one good parent than two bad parents, but it’s indisputably better to have two good parents.

Put aside the arguments about traditional “family values.” The simple fact is that two parents who wait to have kids will have more time and money to invest in their kids, and the kids will benefit as a result. Single moms with two jobs don’t have time to play catch with, or teach the infield-fly rule to, their kids.

The decline of marriage among low- and middle-income Americans is a crisis afflicting all ethnicities. But among prosperous whites, marriage is doing pretty well. And the evidence has steadily mounted that marriage is a big source of that prosperity.

Fewer than one in ten births to college-educated women happen outside of wedlock, according to the group Child Trends, while for women with high-school degrees or less, the number is close to six out of ten.

As Richard Ralph Banks demonstrates in Is Marriage for White People?, the same cannot be said of blacks. Contrary to widespread perceptions, marriage is not all that popular among middle- and upper-class blacks either. Black women, Banks reports, long for traditional family structures, but black men — even college-educated black men — for a variety of complex reasons are more ambivalent about it.

As Moynihan learned, speaking honestly about the state of the black family is politically explosive, even when done with the best of intentions. But if there is one person in America with the moral and political standing to have a transformative and beneficial impact on that conversation, it’s Barack Obama, a dedicated father and the most successful black man in American history. Nixon went to China. Maybe Obama can go to black America for something more than votes every four years.

November 22, 2012 at 10:32 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

joneses, what an excellent post. Thanks.

November 22, 2012 at 10:59 a.m.
WHS1970 said...

Happy Thanksgiving Jonsey!!! Let's smile and be thankful for all of the blessings that we so often take for granted. Even as screwed up as things may seem, the USA is the best nation on the face of God's Earth.

November 22, 2012 at 11:03 a.m.
GameOn said...

Clay could not take the opportunity to say thank you to our Veterans on Veterans Day. Why would we expect a simple Happy Thanksgiving? The campaign of the useful idiot must go on.

November 22, 2012 at 11:14 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

toon-boy is interested in 2 things. increasing the divide and pounding home the leftist agenda.

November 22, 2012 at 11:18 a.m.
tifosi said...

Happy Thanksgiving everybody! Especially our troops that are far from home.

November 22, 2012 at 11:45 a.m.
Maximus said...

Tolerating a mean military Daddy and attending 10 different schools has made Clay a bitter victim. Weird you would put that juvenile stuff in your bio! Get over it! Anywho...Clay even graduated from a RED STATE JUCO where I'm certain he was bullied! My only hope is that Prez Barry Citera will provide for losers like Clay by making sure that everything is fair and that no one will ever, ever get their feelings hurt again. JayZ be sayin, yea, represent, mediocrity for all u biatches and Happy Thanksgiving to all u mutha#@$*s!

November 22, 2012 at 11:57 a.m.
tifosi said...

... and Merry Christmas to you too Maximus. Santa is making his list of naughty and nice.

November 22, 2012 at 12:20 p.m.

It's shameful Clay Bennett can only use this day to continue his liberal leaning agenda, rather than use this space to be thankful to our troops, he's just too busy gloating with his usual hack ways of showing he's a mindless follower of the new gestapo we've been tricked into dealing with for the next four years. GET A CONSCIENCE, BENNETT. You're useless

November 22, 2012 at 12:22 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jack_Dennis said: “Toon-boy is interested in 2 things. increasing the divide and pounding home the leftist agenda.”

Hmmm . . . What do the facts show as to who has been obstructing government and increasing the divide. . . Lets see now:

Nearly 45,000 Americans die each year -- one every 12 minutes - in large part because they lack health insurance and cannot get good care. President Obama and the Democrats have tried to address the problem and made the Affordable Care Act a priority, but the Republicans have worked to undermine these efforts. . . According to the Republican leader, their “number one priority is making sure president Obama’s a one-term president.”

Fairness, justice, and good policies help America . . . Have the Republicans helped to promote good policies? . . . No, unfortunately, the opposite appears to true . . . Since President Obama was elected Republican Senators DeMint, Jon Kyl, Tom Coburn, John Ensign, and Bob Corker have filibustered over 300 bills – more than any Congress combined in US History. 
The Republicans have voted no on every single piece of Legislation brought to the Floor including:


NO on Al Franken's Anti-Rape Amendment

NO on Lilly Ledbetter

NO on Fair Pay Act

NO on 2010 Anti-Outsourcing Bill

No on 2012 Anti-Oursourcing Bill

NO on increasing FEMA during natural disasters.

Paul Ryan and the Republicans in Congress refused to negotiate or even discuss passing President Obama's American Jobs Act that independent economists claim would create 1.3 million new jobs. . . More about Republican efforts of sabotage at:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/13/1119591/-January-2009-Paul-Ryan-Literally-Plotted-To-Sabotage-U-S-Economy

November 22, 2012 at 1 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Claybennettsahack said...

". . . he's just too busy gloating with his usual hack ways of showing he's a mindless follower of the new gestapo we've been tricked into dealing with for the next four years."

You mean the Gestapo started by George W. Bush? Let's see. Patriot Act, TSA, Homeland Security, two wars of aggression, Holy Crusades, massive killing and wounding of civilian populations in war zones, use of mercenaries, imprisonment without warrants and habeas corpus, continued militarization of civilian law enforcement, less privacy in all modes of communications, and the list goes on.

GW Bush started the goosestepping on civil liberties. Heil George!

November 22, 2012 at 1:07 p.m.
EaTn said...

Clay's agenda is to stimulate comments, even if some are criticism.

November 22, 2012 at 1:20 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

So Laurel: What does your Tolstoy length post have to do with Bennett?

November 22, 2012 at 1:22 p.m.
GameOn said...

According to the CDC... Abortions fell for the year 2009 and they were down 5%. This is the latest year for numbers and 785,000 abortions were performed. Absolutely staggering.

"White women had the lowest abortion rate, at about 8.5 per 1,000 women of child-bearing age, while the rate for African American women was four times larger. Latinas’ abortion rate was about 19 per 1,000 women of child-bearing years."

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-73407347/

November 22, 2012 at 2:46 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

"You can get anything you want...at Ann Romney's Restaurant (except the White House)." - dude_abides

Love it! Made me chuckle.

November 22, 2012 at 2:48 p.m.
jesse said...

Actually CROW can be pretty good IF that's all you got!!

November 22, 2012 at 2:52 p.m.
d2edwards said...

Well done, Clay. I mistook it for a Rockwell print...

November 22, 2012 at 3:15 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Who stole lkeithlu's brain?! Yesterday she defended Rubio's slithery dodging of a simple question and now she's praising joneses for an "excellent post?" It's one thing to be kind n' gentle and more accepting of others' opinions, but don't get all mush-brained on us, lkeithlu!

Joneses, the decline of blacks in baseball has little, if anything, to do with blacks coming from single-parent homes and not having the benefit of a daddy to instruct them in the finer points of the game. What nonsense! The fact is, pro baseball has greatly expanded its recruiting scope and been able to draw in players from all over the world, while football and basketball are still limited to getting their recruits almost exclusively from our universities. It's not that there has been a troubling reduction of blacks in major league baseball but that there has been an influx of more talented Latinos and Asians who have reduced the number of both blacks and whites who would otherwise be playing at that level. There is actually a better ethnic balance in pro baseball, reflecting the true nature of our society, than in the other two sports.

Nobody can argue that kids from loving homes are raised with values that kids from broken homes are deprived of, but the key is being loved and nurtured, whether there be one parent or two. Yes, two loving parents are probably preferable to one, but you can't just say that a man and a woman should wait to get married, then have kids, work hard, go to church, read their Bibles, and say their prayers every night and, voila, problems solved. If we want a strong, healthy, productive nation turning out strong, healthy, productive kids, then we have to do something to fill the gaps and provide opportunities for education and jobs that the most deprived among us do not have. If we can educate all kids, including and especially the poorest and the most disadvantaged, we will have more people making wiser choices and not feeling hopelessly lost with their backs against a wall. It is that feeling of hopelessness and a lack of opportunity that turns so many young people to making bad decisions leading to crime and continuing to live in squalor.

Obama can only be "transformative" to blacks or anyone else in poverty by creating policies and opportunities that enable them to rise out of those holes of despair and deprivation that they are presently in. But everything he tries to do, policy-wise, he gets shot down by the Republicans. The only things Republicans can come up with is cut taxes, cut spending, tell young people not to have sex 'til after marriage, post the Ten Commandments on more courthouse walls, and everything will be hunky-dorey. Seriously, that has been the only "plan" the Republicans have come up with thus far. That is just how irrelevant and out of touch they have become.

And that is why the GOP is eating crow this Thanksgiving.

November 22, 2012 at 3:16 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

rickyroo is so steeped in ideology he can't possibly see beyond his beak. Wise up, pal.

November 22, 2012 at 3:53 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Yessir, Mr. non-ideological J_D. I realize I have a lot to learn from an unbiased guru such as yourself. I humbly agree to "wise up" henceforth, all because J_D, the wise one, hath spoken.

November 22, 2012 at 4:08 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

ricky: I don't claim to be the wise one. But I can see other points of view occasionally. Not sure about you, bub.

November 22, 2012 at 4:57 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Yeah, Rickaroo-I AM kinda mushy-brained these days. Although I did not agree with all of joneses post, it was refreshing to see him post about Obama without twisting his name into something insulting or obscene. Credit given where due! And I will wait to pass judgment on Rubio; I just don't think he is as stupid as that answer made him look. He may prove me wrong, and I am happy to move him to the group that includes Bachmann and Broun if he does.

November 22, 2012 at 5:37 p.m.
d2edwards said...

Turkeys eating crow ala Norman Rockwell - priceless! Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

November 22, 2012 at 6:17 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

I love how Obama spends all year dividing nation & asks us to come together on holidays. Doesn't work that way.

November 22, 2012 at 6:25 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Bennett has to keep trying to keep trumpeting Obama's election victory (America's loss) because no good news has come out of the White house since fools sent the Marxist back to work for another 4 years. Simple minded takers like Bennett are setting the future of this country. American Idol, Glamor Girls and Clay Bennett. We are screwed!

November 22, 2012 at 6:38 p.m.
fairmon said...

miraweb said...

I am grateful, not least of all, that election season has ENDED.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Happy Thanksgiving to you Miraweb. I too would be grateful the election season has ended if I thought it had. Thus far it seems to be continuing without so much PAC money and fewer speaking tours. But in Washington D.C. it goes on. It may be in the best interest of all if gird lock successfully continues. It is harder to screw something up if you do nothing.

November 22, 2012 at 6:39 p.m.
carlB said...

Is it too bad that the majority of the voters saw through the strategy of bashing President Obama, the lying, and the obstructism against this Republic, just to get him out of the office. Even now that President Obama has been properly elected for his second term, his enemies have not let up in their trying to divide the voters against him as if they are trying to "oust" him out of Office instead of putting this Republic ahead of their Party policies.

Every lie that the Republicans have tried to use against President Obama has proven to be untrue. YES, they deserve the "crow." I do believe that they have earned more than one to feed their egos of not knowing when to change their strategies.

November 22, 2012 at 10:41 p.m.
carlB said...

http://view.exacttarget.com/?j=fe5d16767460007b771d&m=fe5f157071610178711c&ls=fe0710717364007f75157073&l=fe6715707160067 a7512&s=fe2b1c747466057a701478&jb=ffcf14&ju=fe2a16757163027e751c72&r=0

Since the Democratic people of the TN 3rd and 4th US Congressional Districts do not have any representation in Washington, for the next two years, Alan Grayson got reelected in Florida by the people who used their "senses" for the good of this Republic and their good judgment to return him back to Congress. I do not believe he likes the policies of the Republicans. Maybe we can "adopt" Alan as our Representative, speaking on our behalf for the not two years?

November 22, 2012 at 10:55 p.m.
fairmon said...

All join hands and leap, the cliff is a myth, a name given to expiring temporary tax measures by the media. It is being perpetuated by politicians to gain support for their position. The expiration would at least and at last provide some certainty out of Washington, a rarity for far too long. A permanent tax code needs to result instead of moving the hurdle further down the track to bring about the same dilemma and uncertainty later.

Bipartisan is an over used and abused word. Pelosi's definition of the word was you need to agree with me to show you are bipartisan.

November 23, 2012 at 7:21 a.m.
davisss13 said...

Wow. I haven't seen so many lies from Republican posters since.... yesterday. I bet you degenerate losers claim to be Christians too. How pathetic can you possibly be? Talk about unpatriotic traitors... using the standard you DHs used under dubya.

November 23, 2012 at 8:06 a.m.
davisss13 said...

lol. What a pack of useless, two-faced losers. What's next for you swine? You going to bring the country down because you couldn't win? Of course you are.

November 23, 2012 at 8:07 a.m.
carlB said...

By the way, I did have a HAPPY THINKSGIVING with my Republican Relatives who actually work for the DOE, but vote against their self interest.

November 23, 2012 at 8:52 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Mitt rolls in at 22nd (on the list below), and the bird gets served on the 22nd! Wait, I guess it was really Mitt that got served.

I wonder how many of the Presidents ranked lower than Obama claimed they were given a mandate?

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/20/15312457-where-obama-romney-rank-in-electoral-college-scores?lite

November 23, 2012 at 9:04 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

davissss: Why are you here? SEIU not picketing in the area today?

November 23, 2012 at 9:23 a.m.
fairmon said...

Is it realistic to expect middle class America to remain strong with the U.S. exporting of wealth, see trade imbalance. The transfer of wealth by the trade imbance does not include the millions and millions going to the Mexican and other drug cartels, it does not include the transfer of billions in foreign aid. The trade balance (imbalance) report does not include the transfer of wealth creating jobs to other countries that are replaced with move the money around services positions including government employees that produce nothing while being over compensated by tax payers to spend tax payer money.

Why is the middle class growing in emerging market countries at a rate comparable to the percent decline of the middle class in the U.S.? I would like to hear how eithr party is addressing this dilemma? How will increasing taxes or reduced spending help if U.S. manufacturing, mining, farming, fishing is not enabled to be competitive in world markets?

November 23, 2012 at 9:30 a.m.
dude_abides said...

Jack_, does your disability check allow you to get extra liquor in for the Holidays, or do you have to rely on relatives?

November 23, 2012 at 11:04 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jack_Dennis asks: "What does your Tolstoy length post have to do with Bennett?”

Well, Jack, you claimed the cartoonist was only interested in “increasing the divide” so I thought I would point you toward a group of politicians who really have been working to undermine our government and increase the divide. Indeed, since you appear to be aware of the dangers of “increasing the divide” I‘m surprised you haven’t noticed the GOP's obstructionism.

Surely, a savvy person like you can understand why a “no” vote on every single piece of Legislation brought to the Floor is not a constructive act. And bills like these can hardly be considered part of of an alleged "leftist" agenda:

NO on Al Franken's Anti-Rape Amendment

NO on Lilly Ledbetter

NO on the American Jobs Act

NO on Fair Pay Act

NO on 2010 Anti-Outsourcing Bill

No on 2012 Anti-Outsourcing Bill

NO on increasing FEMA during natural disasters

November 23, 2012 at 11:23 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

"ricky: I don't claim to be the wise one. But I can see other points of view occasionally. Not sure about you, bub." - J_D

You're right, JD. I have indeed seen you sometimes being open to different points of view: it's obvious that your core values are right wing but I have noticed you also being accepting of the FAR right wing point of view, and then the FAR FAR right wing point of view, and then the FAR FAR FAR right wing point of view. I'm trying my best to emulate you and be as open to other points of view, too..."bub."

November 23, 2012 at 11:32 a.m.
jesse said...

Hey Dude, i think Davisss 13 drank all of Jacks whisky for breakfast this morning!

November 23, 2012 at 11:38 a.m.
miraweb said...

Texas School Tracks Students for Money

Like most state-financed schools, the district’s budget is tied to average daily attendance. If a student is not in his seat during morning roll call, the district doesn’t receive daily funding for that pupil because the school has no way of knowing for sure if the student is there.

But with the RFID tracking, students not at their desk but tracked on campus are counted as being in school that day, and the district receives its daily allotment for that student.

Tagging school children with RFID chips is uncommon, but not new. A federally funded preschool in Richmond, California, began embedding RFID chips in students’ clothing in 2010. And an elementary school outside of Sacramento, California, scrubbed a plan in 2005 amid a parental uproar. And a Houston, Texas, school district began using the chips to monitor students on 13 campuses in 2004 for the same reasons the Northside Independent School District implemented the program. Northside is mulling adopting the program for its other 110 schools.

The Hernandez family, which is Christian, told InfoWars that the sophomore is declining to wear the badge because it signifies Satan, or the Mark of the Beast warning in Revelations 13: 16-18.

The district, in a letter last week to the family, said it would allow her to continue attending the magnet school with “the battery and chip removed.” But the girl’s father, Steve Hernandez, said the district told him that the offer came on the condition that he must “agree to stop criticizing the program and publicly support it,” a proposition the father told WND Education that he could not stomach.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/11/student-suspension/

November 23, 2012 at 11:48 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

laurel: Maybe, just maybe, they were bad bills. Hmmm? You simply naming the bills doesn't reveal the CONTENT of the bill. The only one I would vote "no" on without studying it is the Al Franken bill. Would not read anything that moron has to say.

November 23, 2012 at 11:57 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_: Off today, huh? That public trough job of yours shut down for the day? Frees you up for insulting, though hollow, insults. Good stuff, Bunky.

November 23, 2012 at 11:59 a.m.
Maximus said...

JayZ b a playa dat bez conceerneds about all da blacks racism in dis so called U S of A! 96% of all my brothas and sistas be voten fo Obamas just cuz he be blacks. Ain't right niggas! Like MLK say..We shall over come...we ain'ts overcome jack sh@#! We still bez livin on da plantation lookins fur food, rent, doctors bills, and cell phones. Axelrod and Plouf be da welfare pimps and we be da hoes. Masser Obama be da landed gentry of da gangsta kingdom yo yo dog I'm out. Hip Hop Nation Foever!

November 23, 2012 at 12:04 p.m.
chet123 said...

I tried to inform the right-wing nuts that they need to stop listening to Fox News....Fox only dumbed the republican party down.......now the whole world laughing at the right-wing.....

November 23, 2012 at 12:19 p.m.
chet123 said...

MAX....you are a dying breed.....the South have been looked down on for over a 150years thanks to people like yourself who sits in church every Sunday Morning listening to false preachers and adopting their wicked twisted doctrine of hate and division......so keep believing in your false doctrine......For the joke is on you....ha ha ha!

November 23, 2012 at 12:25 p.m.
carlB said...

To recover from this 2007 recession there has to be private manufacturing jobs recreated in the USA and our trade deficit has to be reduced by swapping the buying of imported goods with the goods being "Made in the USA." Of course there is an important need for the USA to also have exported goods to put people back to work here and to help get our trade deficit back in balance.
The exporting/importing of goods from the USA took on a completely different look/change when the "free trade agreements" and the global economy got too big. The details of the following Statement are very complicated but it's affect on our economy and on our jobs are very noticeable. "When the goods that used to be made in the USA by American workers were also bought by the US consumers and also exported to other countries, there was a better balance in our trade deficit. The Changes that have occurred as the increase in global corporations reached their peak, are now having their "name brand" goods manufactured in the lower monetary value countries and are selling/shipping these goods "world wide" directly from these countries/nations where they are manufactured and are even sold to the consumers within the countries where they are manufactured.
How can the USA recover the private sector jobs that have been lost under these circumstances?

November 23, 2012 at 12:39 p.m.
carlB said...

The Republicans based their entire campaign on getting back into "power" on "biased" opinions against President Obama, with their planned obstructions to cause his failure and then lying about the good that Obama has done to stabilize the 2007 deep recession to keep this Republic out of another great depression. The Voters should be aware of all the the unfinished crisis conditions that had to be addressed when President Obama was elected and was sworn in. The Republicans' are continuing on with their "grand scheme" of misconception on the voters.

November 23, 2012 at 12:45 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

“laurel: “Maybe, just maybe, they were bad bills. Hmmm? You simply naming the bills doesn't reveal the CONTENT of the bill.”

In view of the destructive attitude of Republicans like Eric Cantor and Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell, I think your faith is misplaced here, Jack. You also appear to be ignoring what Republicans like Ohio Senator George Voinovich have shared with us about the Republican strategy in regard to President Obama: “If he was for it, we had to be against it.”

November 23, 2012 at 1:11 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

chet: How wide is your paint brush, pal? A yard wide? Wise up, hater.

November 23, 2012 at 1:23 p.m.
miraweb said...

Inmates Help With Sandy Recovery

Inmates did 6,600 pounds of laundry for people in emergency shelters. The jail supplied generators and gas to fuel them to neighborhoods in the dark, and donated long underwear usually given to inmates. And officers with medical training provided emergency care to victims.

“There was a lot of loss,” said Ms. Schriro, who personally pitched in at food lines on the Rockaway Peninsula, in Queens. “It was our responsibility and opportunity to jump in and help.”


A group of prisoners at New York City's Rikers Island jail were let out for a day so they could deliver 700 Thanksgiving meals to the needy.

The men cooked up the hundreds of turkey dinners in a jail kitchen on Tuesday and delivered them Wednesday to two churches on Manhattan's Upper East Side.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/22/nyregion/clothes-and-other-storm-aid-from-rikers-jail.html?ref=nyregion&_r=0

http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/NYC-inmates-deliver-Thanksgiving-meals-4058634.php

November 23, 2012 at 1:26 p.m.
Maximus said...

Nows all Axelrod and Ploufs has to do is gits dem Latina's to haves EBT card babies, obama cellies, and uncle sam birt controls and we haves Obama den Hillary Democrat santa thug life foever. Da truths bez real ya'll, just sayin, u know whats I'm talkin abouts. Gotta hustle gonna grind on me sum shorties tonight. Yeeeees. Like weezy say i b out dar grindin.............FORWARD TO BANKRUPTCY!

November 23, 2012 at 1:48 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Jack_ximus... Sorry I struck a nerve. I thought your attack on Davisss meant you could take a little good-natured ribbing yourself, but I was obviously wrong. Hey, what you do with my part of the money you receive should stay your business, Bulky.

November 23, 2012 at 1:51 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_: I see nothing good-natured coming from you.

November 23, 2012 at 2:09 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Jack_Dennis said... "chet: How wide is your paint brush, pal? A yard wide? Wise up, hater."

Yet, you have no issues, to speak of, with Maximus' posts. LOL That turning of a blind eye is the reason the outcome of this election is so sweet! You guys are the past. Your influence is receding as fast as your hairline. You're an 8 track tapeman who thinks MP3 is the Redskins' quarterback.

November 23, 2012 at 2:16 p.m.
jesse said...

I doubt anyone will give Max a second thought!

The man ain't even taking himself serious!

November 23, 2012 at 2:28 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_: So I should respond to Maximus because you think it's the thing to do? You're seriously warped, dude_

November 23, 2012 at 2:43 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Jack_, not because of what I think, but because you have some semblance of integrity. If I'm warped then you're creased, perforated, pinged, rent, scattered, smothered...

November 23, 2012 at 3:23 p.m.
carlB said...

tu_quoque said... carlB Picks A Winner:

Yes, Alan got elected by the voters in Florida again. As I have said, "this is not a perfect world nor is any one person pefect. Why did the voters in our TN 3rd and 4th US Congressional Distrits elect the two Republican US Representives after they were put under the magnifying glass with two better Democratic candidates to choose?

November 23, 2012 at 3:48 p.m.
jesse said...

He musta got a Phd. in English Lit.

even i can see that don't add up!

November 23, 2012 at 3:51 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_: Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate. (probably before your time)

November 23, 2012 at 4:07 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Yesterday was wonderful, being able to thank the Good Lord for ignoring the fervent prayers of the hateful conservatives. His omniscient decision to give them the Finger regarding their hopes and dreams for a new administration and a majority in the Senate absolutely thrilled me. I especially enjoyed the way in which he made Rove flounder in denial purgatory for hours. I felt like the Lord and I were sharing an inside joke at the expense of the GOP. I wonder if He took note of the consternation in their Thanksgiving Prayers yesterday? I mean, what the hell did they have to be thankful for, these political animals? Their aspirations for their party are more important to them than the rights of their wives, daughters, gay relatives, the poor, the Earth...

Hey, if your Cheerios taste funny, maybe urine for a surprise!

November 23, 2012 at 4:29 p.m.
fairmon said...

Romney's concession speech was an excellent show of class by acknowledging the winner and with wishes for the best. This cartoon shows the winner reps here have no class or measurable sportsmanship, like one of those hot dogging football players juking and jiving when they score like it is the first time they have ever made it to the end zone....

Do you know any state or federal government employees? How many do you know that believes without them the whole country would just go down the toilet? They don't realize if they disapeared a vast majority of people other than family wouldn't realize or care that they were gone. Fire, police and military personnel would be sorely missed immediately other than that those processing the payroll and expense accounts would be about it.

November 23, 2012 at 5:14 p.m.
jesse said...

Well i voted for Obama BUT i think i'll wait a year or two before i start gloating about it! I think the ship is gonna run up in a reef before long, if Romney had won it would have gone down like the Titanic!IMO!

November 23, 2012 at 5:26 p.m.
dude_abides said...

harp3339 said... "This cartoon shows the winner reps here..."

Not completely understanding how to read this, could you please rephrase for me?

November 23, 2012 at 5:31 p.m.
jesse said...

I think he's talkin about the pro-Obama posters on here Dude!

Could be wrong but that 's the way i took it!

November 23, 2012 at 5:43 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Seems that way, jesse, but "winner reps" could mean Congressional electees, and harp is usually pretty precise about these things. I doubt he considers himself a "rep" for any particular entity.

November 23, 2012 at 5:53 p.m.
ricardo said...

There are no such things as winner republicans. Didn't you watch the news two weeks ago?

November 23, 2012 at 6:02 p.m.
jesse said...

Taking the context of Harp 's post,refering to Romney's grace and class in his losing statement and contrasting that w/ some winners posts on here i guess he's saying some folks are sore winners! BUT i 'm not SURE that was what he meant.i'm sure he will clairify it shortly!

November 23, 2012 at 6:11 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Actually, harp, my brother works for the post office in rural Tx. He rises at 4AM to drive a 60 mile round trip to pick up the mail at the closest distribution area and get it into boxes before opening time. He manages to get very little time off because he is on most days a one-man-show. I rarely see anyone who works as hard as he does.

November 23, 2012 at 6:11 p.m.
carlB said...

To recover from this 2007 recession there has to be private manufacturing jobs recreated in the USA and our trade deficit has to be reduced by swapping the buying of imported, manufacturedgoods with the goods being "Made in the USA." Of course there is an important need for the USA to also have exported goods to put people back to work here and to help get our trade deficit back in balance.
The exporting/importing of goods from the USA took on a completely different look/change when the "free trade agreements" and the global economy got too big. The details of the following Statement is very complicated but it's affect on our economy and on our jobs are very noticeable. "When the goods that were once made in the USA by American workers were also bought by the US consumers and also exported to other countries, there was a better balance in our trade deficit. The Changes that have occurred as the increase in global corporations reached their peak, are continiously having their "name brand" goods manufactured in the lower monetary value countries and selling/shipping these goods "world wide" directly from these countries/nations where they are manufactured and even sold to the consumers within the countries where they are manufactured.
How can the USA recreate the private sector jobs that have been lost under these circumstances unless the US consumers change their buying patterns?
We have to "Go Forward" on a constant rate over a long period of time with the recreation of middle class private sector jobs here while reducing our trade deficit. There are many players that have been created with the global economy (Free Trade agreements)but unfair because they were designed to create the trade deficits with the global corporate monopolies, taking away the choices of the US consumers to buy "Made in the USA."

November 23, 2012 at 7 p.m.
degage said...

Dude is an athiest until it suits his purpose then all of a sudden he prays, go figure.

November 23, 2012 at 7:23 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

“Harp3339 asks and deducts: Do you know any state or federal government employees? How many do you know that believes without them the whole country would just go down the toilet? They don't realize if they disapeared a vast majority of people other than family wouldn't realize or care that they were gone.”

And how many federal government employees do you know, Harp3339? Considering your silly statement, I suspect that you don't really know much about either federal employees or our federal agencies. Just because you may not personally know a federal government employee does not mean that these federal agencies and their employees do not touch our lives in important ways. Indeed, just recently we all noted the critical role that one of those federal agencies played in our lives. I have no doubt that a lot more people would have died as a result of the recent Hurricane Sandy if it hadn’t been for the work of the NOAA.

November 23, 2012 at 7:26 p.m.
dude_abides said...

degage said... "Dude is an athiest until it suits his purpose then all of a sudden he prays, go figure."

You've no reason to suspect me as being atheist. I'm afraid you're laboring under the assumption that if someone doesn't take the Bible literally, they're atheist.

So you can just go 'figure' yourself.

November 23, 2012 at 7:35 p.m.
degage said...

Are you getting testy Dude? So many of your post agree with the athiest that it seems to make one think you are one.

November 23, 2012 at 8:05 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Open wide, degage. Your Bible was written by men that said God spoke to them. Would you trust someone today that wrote a new book for the Bible because God told them to? Is everybody that worships differently than you an atheist in your opinion, or do you not much care what they worship as long as they are worshipping something or other?

November 23, 2012 at 8:26 p.m.
alprova said...

dude_abides wrote: "Open wide, degage..."

OMG...I lost a mouthful of tea when I read that...

Too funny....

November 23, 2012 at 10:08 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Don't BS us, dude_: I'm guessing a bolt of lightening just barely missed you recently.

November 23, 2012 at 10:11 p.m.
dude_abides said...

alprova, I was hoping you'd see that.

Jack_, I'd flagellate myself if it meant Gruden would move to Knoxville.

November 23, 2012 at 10:17 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

dude_: an extremely rare agreement

November 23, 2012 at 10:24 p.m.
fairmon said...

mountainlaurel said...

And how many federal government employees do you know, Harp3339? Considering your silly statement, I suspect that you don't really know much about either federal employees or our federal agencies. Just because you may not personally know a federal government employee does not mean that these federal agencies and their employees do not touch our lives in important ways. Indeed, just recently we all noted the critical role that one of those federal agencies played in our lives. I have no doubt that a lot more people would have died as a result of the recent Hurricane Sandy if it hadn’t been for the work of the NOAA.

ML I have dealt with various agencies and know several government employees and my experience and observation results in the statement made and still believe to be accurate. It is a fact the results of some are good but still not the only option if they were not there. You operate from the assumption that the need or void would not be filled if the federal government didn't do it, in a few situations that is accurate but more often not.

November 23, 2012 at 11:02 p.m.
fairmon said...

lkeithlu said...

Actually, harp, my brother works for the post office in rural Tx. He rises at 4AM to drive a 60 mile round trip to pick up the mail at the closest distribution area and get it into boxes before opening time. He manages to get very little time off because he is on most days a one-man-show. I rarely see anyone who works as hard as he does.

Ikeithlu..most postal employees work hard, efficiently and earn their pay until you get to the over staffed beauracratic levels. Also, congress imposes many requirements and restraints but no funding, an impossible situation they put the postal service in. Congress will not give up the old pony express mentality and allow them to make essential changes to be viable.

November 23, 2012 at 11:10 p.m.
alprova said...

Degage, if there is one fundamental truth surrounding the Christian religion, it is that it has been screwing with people's minds for eons.

It is very wrong of you to make any assumption that those of us who disagree with Evangelical or Fundamentalist Christians who frequent this forum, to be Atheists.

The fact is, there are approximately 41,000 Christian denominations in this nation, each with congregations believing they are correct and on their path to Heaven, and that every other denomination is less than worthy of God's praise.

Christianity has been dividing people all over the world since about 439 A.D. or so.

Many Christians believe the Bible to be the work of prophets and apostles, who related word for word what God told them. Others, like myself, believe that the Bible is an elaborate work of fiction, written by human men, who no more likely heard God speaking to them than those who claim to converse with God today.

It is indeed, quite possible that people do hear voices in their heads, but for the most part, such people are housed away from society due to some rather evil crimes they have committed in response to their celestial conversations.

Who is right and who is wrong? That is a very relevant question and it will never be answered until the end of time, which by the way, is predicted by some to be next arriving in 28 days.

Christmas may well be a bummer for some this year if there is a personal expectation or hope that the world will be exploding, or that all gravity will cease to exist, propelling everything into outer-space.

A "man of God," 34 years ago this month, convinced 918 of his followers to drink some Kool-Aid laced with poison and to lay down and die. Was Jim Jones right and was he a true man of God? Not many people alive today would think so, but those 918 that died believed they were following him in doing God's will.

People are going to believe what they will and nothing anyone believes to the contrary will convince them otherwise.

November 23, 2012 at 11:12 p.m.
hambone said...

As for myself, I have never been to a US Immigration Office and wouldn't know where one was. How often do you visit TOO QUTE ?

November 23, 2012 at 11:20 p.m.
fairmon said...

jesse said... I think he's talkin about the pro-Obama posters on here Dude!

Could be wrong but that 's the way i took it!

You got it. Some not all. Most have moved on to talking about the issues that need addressing. A few are p-poor winners that would get a tanunting penalty in football like the UT player that cost UT two touchdowns hot dogging a few yards from the goal line. Gary Johnson didn't get many votes and few, maybe none, agree with me but I don't belittle them just because they are....Better not say that or I would be doing what I criticize them for.

Name calling, theratening and some of the BS here helps explain how some school kids are bullies, thay have an example at home.

November 23, 2012 at 11:27 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Props to Saxby Chambliss for growing a set.

November 23, 2012 at 11:43 p.m.
alprova said...

In just a little short of four weeks, according to the Mayans, the world is going to end.

I'm personally committed to not seeing that this comes to pass.

If you are here on December 22nd, you will know that I was successful in saving the world.

In appreciation for my hard work, it will be my honor to accept gifts of cash, expensive cars or even real estate.

Okay, with that out of the way, it's back to work for me.

November 23, 2012 at 11:46 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Yeah, Alpo, maybe the forces of evil caved in just to shut you up.

November 23, 2012 at 11:53 p.m.
dude_abides said...

somebody said... "You got it. Some not all. Most have moved on to talking about the issues that need addressing."

Do we have, like, a committee that sorts out all this jibber jabber and lobbies congress with the results of our labor so as to address the issues in need? Because I was all but certain that every long winded treatise that gets egested onto the floor of this forum just kind of sits there as a monument to some self important, powerless grunt. A cathartic effluvium for the silence challenged.

November 24, 2012 at 12:12 a.m.
ricardo said...

On the 7th day, alprova rested.

November 24, 2012 at 12:59 a.m.
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