published Tuesday, October 9th, 2012

Shooting Gallery

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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fairmon said...

Libertarian platform and view on matters such as this.....

If you are really interested you should go to the source...

http://www.lp.org/platform

What is there to disagree with unless you are afraid to be free and independent? It is sad that the champion of this platform, Gary Johnson, is not included in the debates.

October 9, 2012 at 3:22 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

63 shootings 19 deaths 0 executions

October 9, 2012 at 5:44 a.m.
mtnman1 said...

Oh no! Clay taking aim at his constituency? Tomorrow's toon should be a thug in an Obama t-shirt. Maybe throttling entitlements and forcing these kids to work! When I was a kid, I worked and was too tired to stay up past midnight.

October 9, 2012 at 6:45 a.m.
jesse said...

About 6 teams of cops walking a beat from 6 pm till 1 am around this shooting gallery might slow down the carnage!

Then again it might just get some cops shot!

Park the paddy wagon at 28th and 4 th.ave and start taking back control!( hard to do any shootin when you stay busy gittin in and out of JAIL!)

October 9, 2012 at 7:04 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

The people at ELC are just misunderstood.

October 9, 2012 at 7:32 a.m.
rolando said...

Leave the boys alone. After all, they are only killing their own.

Think of it this way; they are simply doing a very-late-term Planned Parenthood-type genocidal abortion. Bullets are cheap...and taxpayer neutral. The Obama would be proud of you.

Anyone with sense stays out of that part of town...sorta kinda like the Projects in SW Washington, DC after dark.

October 9, 2012 at 7:50 a.m.
jesse said...

If you catch a stray you are just as dead as if they were aiming at you!

I guess we could just call that "collateral damage!"

October 9, 2012 at 7:59 a.m.
rolando said...

Maybe a little firing range practice along with a Hogan's Alley walk-through would sharpen up the ole accuracy.

Besides, The Obama routinely condones the killing of innocents via drone strikes...soon to be brought to a neighborhood near you.

October 9, 2012 at 8:08 a.m.
joneses said...

I am surprised Clay Bennett is not blaming this black on black crime on President George Bush. That is Bennett's idol Hussein Obama's talking point. Has Bennett strayed from the liberal strategy? Uh oh, I called it what it is, black on black crime, watch out for the race baiters.

October 9, 2012 at 8:18 a.m.
conservative said...

Well, I read the Libertarian platform at http://www.lp.org/platform and I can confidently state "good luck with that."

We long ago passed the point for the abolition of Socialism Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps and the myriad other federal welfare programs.

I read where Bob Barr the last Libertarian candidate got a little over 500,000 votes in the last election. He had been on TV for years when he was a Republican expressing some conservative views and opposing Clinton but never advocating the elimination of all these federal programs. I strongly believe many who voted for him were unaware of the Libertarian position on the abolition of federal programs.

However, other Libertarian positions would have strong appeal for Liberals so I wonder which party would suffer the most from a "wasted" vote.

October 9, 2012 at 8:26 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jesse said: "About 6 teams of cops walking a beat from 6 pm till 1 am around this shooting gallery might slow down the carnage!Park the paddy wagon at 28th and 4 th.ave and start taking back control!"

You’re such a silly guy, Jesse. But maybe you’ve forgot that Tennessee is a “red state,” and in “red states” like Tennessee we are proud to say that we don’t believe in wasting our tax dollars on things like violent crimes, paddy wagons and law enforcement people. If we did this, we wouldn’t have any money left to build all of those nations in all of those foreign countries - now, there is a place that needs our help and tax dollars.

No, Jesse, here at home in the red states, we believe that charities, churches and civic groups should handle violent crimes and this shooting stuff. In fact, I just read an article earlier this morning where Paul Ryan was saying this very thing:

“. . . the best thing to help prevent violent crime in the inner cities is to bring opportunity in the inner cities, is to help people get out of poverty in the inner cities, is to help teach people good discipline, good character. That is civil society. That's what charities, and civic groups, and churches do to help one another make sure that they can realize the value in one another."

ABC 12's reporter then offers a somewhat odd retort, asking, "And you can do all that by cutting taxes? By...with a big tax cut?"

"Those are your words, not mine," answers Ryan. A voice off-screen then implies that the interview is over, telling the reporter, "thank you very much, Sir."

Ryan then abruptly stands up and removes his microphone, immediately ending the interview and telling the reporter, "That was kind of strange. You're trying to stuff words in people's mouths?"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/paul-ryan-interview-abruptly-ends_n_1949721.html

October 9, 2012 at 8:28 a.m.
jesse said...

ML, i do believe Clay could do a toon about the skid marks on your bvd's and you guys would find a way to bring Mitts vrs.Barac into the mix! :-)

BTW: all them do- gooder outfits don't seem to be doin a whole lot of good!

October 9, 2012 at 8:38 a.m.
rolando said...

It is a presidential election, after all, jesse. The loyal opposition must overcome the 47% dependency aka bread and circuses.

October 9, 2012 at 8:43 a.m.
rolando said...

Laurel; The topic under discussion was not -- and had nothing whatsoever to do with -- cutting taxes, as you well know.

The obviously biased Progressive interviewer kept hammering on topics already discussed, evidently trying for a different answer. The final, wildly off-topic "taxes" question -- out of the clear blue -- was an attempt to put words in Ryan's mouth and was the final straw insofar as Ryan was concerned.

You are cherry picking your quotes out of context. Keep it clean.

October 9, 2012 at 8:50 a.m.
alprova said...

The voice off screen ending the Paul Ryan interview was none other than Michael Steel, also the spokesman for John Boehner.

http://www.politico.com/click/focus/michael_steel.html

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/10/08/ryan-cuts-reporter-linking-gun-violence-tax-cuts

October 9, 2012 at 8:53 a.m.
rolando said...

And the significance/relevance of that is zero, alpo.

October 9, 2012 at 8:54 a.m.
MTJohn said...

rolando said..."Leave the boys alone. After all, they are only killing their own."

That is exactly what we have done in this country. This country built its economy on the backs of slaves and indentured servants. When we realized the freedom really is meant for all and not just slave holders and corporate executives, we abandoned the underclass. Theoretically, they had the freedom to integrate into the middle class, but few meaningful opportunities to do so. In effect, we abandoned people, gave them no hope and put them into ghettos. And, as long as they stay in their ghettos, it doesn't matter what they do. We'll throw them just enough welfare to keep them there - not enough to give them a way out. That's easier and cheaper than dealing with ghetto residents as people and people who bear the same image of our Creator as the rest of us.

We do need welfare reform in this country. Even more, we need attitude reform. There is no place in a civilized society for thoughts like those contained in Rolando's post.

October 9, 2012 at 8:55 a.m.
jesse said...

Actually it WAS a legitimate question to ask!

after all Ryan opened the door to it when he talked about what to do and asking how you gonna pay for it is reasonable!

STILL ain't got nuttin to do w/thye theme of this toon!

October 9, 2012 at 8:58 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Obama camp appears to be in complete disarray.

October 9, 2012 at 8:59 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Obama: "Al-Qaeda on its heels". Huh?

October 9, 2012 at 9:04 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Bennett, you're dead on on this one (pun not intended). Sorry hacks, thise has nothing to do with Obama or Romney, just thugs running the city.

October 9, 2012 at 9:12 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Bennett, you're dead on on this one (pun not intended). Sorry hacks, thise has nothing to do with Obama or Romney, just thugs running the city.

October 9, 2012 at 9:12 a.m.
rolando said...

MTJ: As always, you cannot recognize sarcasm when you read it.

Perhaps if you had read beyond the first paragraph, you would have realized it.

"There is no place in a civilized society for thoughts like those contained in [MTJohn's] post."

October 9, 2012 at 9:15 a.m.
rolando said...

No, jesse, it was not. Not the way in which it was asked in any case.

But I agree about the off-topic post...but I didn't make the original.

October 9, 2012 at 9:18 a.m.
MTJohn said...

Rolando - I did read all of your post. The second and third paragraphs were nothing but an effort to shift the blame away from where it rightfully belongs.

October 9, 2012 at 9:23 a.m.
rolando said...

And that is where, pray tell?

October 9, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
alprova said...

Rolando, I think the two subjects were very related. Churches, charities, and civic groups have been around for far longer than Paul Ryan has, and his assertion that these groups have been effective in fighting poverty or can effectively do anything about gun violence is pure nonsense.

The reporter's question regarding his and Mitt's pledge to cut taxes across the board in light of these and other problems facing this nation was most definitely warranted and it clearly embarrassed Congressman Ryan. He felt that he had been sabotaged, and because he had no answer for it, he and his handler ended the interview.

Fighting gun violence is not the job of churches, charities, or civic groups. It takes armed and trained cops, courts, and prisons to get thugs off the streets who refuse to leave peaceably in our society. All these things take money to fund them.

Churches, charities, and civic groups, despite all their efforts over the last several decades, have barely made a dent in the poverty rates facing this nation.

Your comment, "Leave the boys alone. After all, they are only killing their own..." indicates that you are another racist piece of crap.

Just when I think you couldn't be any more pathetic and hypocritical as a human being, you offer that kind of a statement?

Paul Ryan exposed his yellow underbelly with the refusal to answer that very simple and pertinent question. I'd be very surprised if it was not revived at some point this coming Thursday, when Mr. Ryan will not be able to duck it.

October 9, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
jesse said...

AND ,mt.john,prey tell where doe's the blame lie??

you want to blame EVERYONE EXCEPT the banger that pull the trigger!

Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy,use the fuzzy to polish you halo!

BTW: Alprova, i think Rolando was referring more to thuggery than race!a Thug is a THUG regardless of anything else!REV>PHELPS is a thug in my view and he is as white as i am!matter of fact there are several thugs that hang on this web site!Just verbal as far as i know tho!

some of you guys have NO grip on the reality of whats going on and how to stop it or a least slow it down!

October 9, 2012 at 9:32 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

I can't wait to hear Biden describe how he and his boss will raise taxes to the tune of $1 trillion and have it only effect the "rich".

Also: The trend.- Romney Rebounds Among Women, While Obama’s Favorability Slips

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/romney-rebounds-among-women-while-obamas-favorability-slips/

October 9, 2012 at 9:39 a.m.
rolando said...

alpo --

Besides being sarcasm [which you refuse to recognize], you now find facts racist? Interesting take on that. You must then find the US Constitution to be a "piece of crap" written by other "pieces of crap". [Nice turn of phrase you use there. Yeah, right.]

You would see racism in a sunrise. You couldn't recognize the real thing if it slapped you upside the head.

The question was neither simple, pertinent, or on-topic; it was right out of the blue and heavily loaded. Ryan and his spokesman recognized that, would not be drawn into it, and refused to consider it a legitimate, on-topic question [which you obviously do].

This entire line of thought is thoroughly off-topic and is an attempt to railroad the issue of this thread -- violent crime in the Projects.

Ryan speaks for himself and needs no spin.

October 9, 2012 at 9:44 a.m.
mymy said...

28 Days to Go!

It is still the economy/jobs/foreign policy/direction of country/National Security here/abroad and the growing debt.

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock

“What once was "Hope and Change" is now "Mope and Blame" LOL funny.

October 9, 2012 at 9:48 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

rolando= ka-ching!!

October 9, 2012 at 9:48 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Obama calls Bush Irresponsible and Unpatriotic

Lou Dobbs catches Obama saying he never called anyone Unpatriotic

Obama the liar exposed once again. "Debunk" that.

October 9, 2012 at 9:56 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Rolando said: "You are cherry picking your quotes out of context. Keep it clean."

Cherry picking? Get real, Rolando. I was just trying to explain to poor Jesse why a “red state” city like Chattanooga doesn’t have 6 teams of cops walking a beat from 6 pm till 1 am over at East Lake Courts. You know what I said is true. Red state cities like Chattanooga just don’t believe in investing in things like law enforcement and public safety. Why deny it?

And it’s not my fault that Paul Ryan answered an unscripted question by that reporter. He could have just keep his big mouth and refused to answer the question. Personally, I thought it was a good question, especially since Ryan and Romney have been doing all of that bragging about cutting taxes and eliminating all of these services and programs – except our foreign nation building services, of course. I heard Ryan say he wants to increase nation building services.

October 9, 2012 at 9:57 a.m.
jesse said...

Well this thread has been thoroughly and irretrievably JACKED so i think i will take a nap!!

Got a bunch of one track pony's on here!

October 9, 2012 at 10 a.m.
mymy said...

Chattanooga becoming a "Little Chicago" will not distract from the Obama Campaign coming apart.

October 9, 2012 at 10:12 a.m.
MTJohn said...

rolando said..."And that is where, pray tell?"

With your sarcastic effort to blame the current administration for our nation's ghetto and the reasons for doing so. The problem has been with us for much longer. And, the reason that we have ghettos is, as I stated in my first post, the rest of us are unwilling to integrate "those" folks into mainstream society.

The following conversation does a pretty good job of describing the reality of American ghettos: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10022009/transcript1.html

October 9, 2012 at 10:16 a.m.
tderng said...

There is a police precinct right in the very front of East lake Courts staffed 24/7 from what I understand.The problem is that these gangbangers have no regard for life,not even their own.

October 9, 2012 at 10:17 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Obama to his millionaire friends:

“They’re such great friends, and they just perform flawlessly night after night. I can’t always say the same,” he quipped.

Yeah, we know Barry. It must be hard to keep up the "performance" night after night, day after day.

October 9, 2012 at 10:19 a.m.
jesse said...

Mtlaural,the TOON and my comments were NOT about what will be done BUT about what NEEDS to be done to solve the prob.

If you think poor Jesse fell off a watermelon truck then you ain't been paying attn!

you seem to sit up on whatever mtn.you live on and snipe at everybody that passes!(suck creek,sand mtn?)

Tell ya what,about 11PM friday night go down to the corner of 4 th and 23rd. and hold a prayer meeting and lay a bunch of LOVE on all them BANGERS! IF you survive then get back on here Sat. morn and tell us how it went!

October 9, 2012 at 10:34 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Just give them more food stamps and free housing. It's worked so well so far.

October 9, 2012 at 10:52 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jesse said: "If you think poor Jesse fell off a watermelon truck then you ain't been paying attn!"

Well, Jesse, you certainly fooled me about that truck. I would think that anybody with the slightest bit of common sense knows that if we want 6 teams of cops walking a beat from 6 pm till 1 am over at East Lake Courts then we’re going to have to invest and employ 6 teams of cops to walk a beat from 6 pm till 1 am over at East Lake Courts.

And as a red state resident, you should know perfectly well that red state politicians like to talk tough-talk a lot, but when it comes time to making an investment and opening the wallet the problem suddenly becomes the responsibility of charities, churches, and civic organizations – unless the problem is occurring in some foreign nation, and then, of course, money is no object.

October 9, 2012 at 11:23 a.m.
jesse said...

The seeds for all this were sown w/the war on poverty and the stipulation that you could not draw welfare if a man lived in the house! Then came along the war on drugs,which gave all those fatherless kids access to a high paying source of income!Then they kinda started gittin organized into gangs! The volstead act gave rise to organized crime and the war on drugs gave us nation wide gangs and cartels south of the border! The city of Chatta. is gonna have to decide what is more urgent,another blue rhino and such or put the resources into a proactive fight against the gang element that can ,sooner or later put us in a situation like Detroit find its self!

October 9, 2012 at 11:27 a.m.
jesse said...

I give up Laural, that laural has grown over a block of granite! you are just using this as a vehicle to advocate a political point of view and politics on the national level has proven over the years that they are pretty much useless on issues like this! Chatta. is gonna have to solve this one all by it's lonesome! Actually if the feds get involved it will prob.compound thr prob.

October 9, 2012 at 11:43 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jesse said: “The seeds for all this were sown w/the war on poverty . . . The city of Chatta. is gonna have to decide what is more urgent,another blue rhino and such or put the resources into a proactive fight against the gang element that can ,sooner or later put us in a situation like Detroit find its self!”

Before you get too carried away here, Jesse, I believe I should mention that crime and violent crimes were occurring long before President Lyndon Johnson’s war on poverty. And as a red state resident, you should know the first murder occurred when Cain murdered his brother Abel. The Bible doesn’t mention Cain’s motive or anything about President Johnson’s war on poverty.

Speaking of crime and religion, I read an interesting article a few year ago that said the FBI crime index showed that crime and violent crime were the highest in the most religious parts of America. The same was true for teen pregnancy. . . In fact, the article pointed out that the most concentrated area in both was not only the most religious portion of the nation but also where the Baptist denomination was the leading church body. . . The less religious and more secular area rates were significantly less in all of the categories mentioned.

October 9, 2012 at 11:53 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

So Laurel. Blame it on the Baptists!! Forget Lyndon Johnson; blame the baptizers. Hahahaha

Nothing wrong in East Lake Courts that increased entitlements can't fix. The Dems are their last chance.

October 9, 2012 at 12:18 p.m.
jesse said...

Give it up Jack,he's got "red state"runnin thru his head so hard that it's short circuited his thinking process's out!

I promised myself i was nor gonna denigrate any one intelligence on here BUT i'm sorely tempted!

He just can't get his head around the fact that Cain wern't in no gang and that this toon is about gangs and how to deal w/them!

October 9, 2012 at 12:30 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Jack_Dennis giggles: So Laurel. Blame it on the Baptists!! Forget Lyndon Johnson; blame the baptizers. Hahahaha"

That's your conclusion not mine, Jack. I know who is to blame and it's not the Baptists.

But don’t worry, I suspect Paul Ryan would agree since he thinks violent crime is the job of churches, charities, and civic organizations – along with all of the other duties that red state politicians have assigned to them like feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, and providing medical assistance to families in need.

As to Chattanooga and Hamilton County's problems, I guess our local red state leaders will just have to heed the advice of their leaders – minus the use of our tax dollars, of course. Indeed, this should be reserved for grander projects like nation building in foreign countries.

Anyway, red state advocate Paul Ryan advises:

“the best thing to help prevent violent crime in the inner cities is to bring opportunity in the inner cities, is to help people get out of poverty in the inner cities, is to help teach people good discipline, good character. That is civil society. That's what charities, and civic groups, and churches do to help one another make sure that they can realize the value in one another."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/paul-ryan-interview-abruptly-ends_n_1949721.html

October 9, 2012 at 1:09 p.m.
mymy said...

Welfare started the root of a lot of this country's problems and needs to be reined in. Will not be easy, but have to start somewhere. More money is not the answer to everything!!!!

The libs will never see/accept the truth!!!!

October 9, 2012 at 1:17 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

conservative said... "Well, I read the Libertarian platform at http://www.lp.org/platform and I can confidently state "good luck with that."

It is a bit strange to see someone with the stage name "conservative" that does not find himself embracing the bulk of the Libertarian platform. The Libertarian doctrine is the true conservative philosophy. A conservative that resigns themselves to federal intrusion in so many aspects of our lives needs to ask himself if his political thought as strayed so far towards socialism that he needs to abandon the label “conservative”.

May I suggest "republican"?

October 9, 2012 at 1:18 p.m.
mymy said...

Almost 70 million people watched the Presidential Debate and now know the Obama Campaign’s description of Romney was a lie. Pathetic Obama Campaign. People seeing him for what he is: an empty suit.

"Four years ago, President Obama said that if you don't have a record to run on, 'you make a big election about small things.' With 23 million people struggling for work, incomes falling, and gas prices soaring, Americans deserve more from their president," spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg said.

One of many Obama small things:

Sesame Workshop to Obama campaign: Take down Big Bird ad

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/09/obama-campaign-deploys-big-bird-in-new-ad/#ixzz28p3VzDbc

October 9, 2012 at 1:25 p.m.
alprova said...

"alpo -- Besides being sarcasm [which you refuse to recognize], you now find facts racist?"

Excuses, excuses, excuses. You can paint it any way you choose, but there are some sentiments, no matter how they are expressed, that are not humorous.

You've exposed your racism more than once.

"Interesting take on that. You must then find the US Constitution to be a "piece of crap" written by other "pieces of crap". [Nice turn of phrase you use there. Yeah, right.]"

How you equivocate what you wrote to any issue surrounding the Constitution, is beyond all comprehension.

"You would see racism in a sunrise. You couldn't recognize the real thing if it slapped you upside the head."

You're only fooling yourself and your racist pals.

"The question was neither simple, pertinent, or on-topic; it was right out of the blue and heavily loaded. Ryan and his spokesman recognized that, would not be drawn into it, and refused to consider it a legitimate, on-topic question [which you obviously do]."

Spin, spin, spin. Don't get dizzy spinning.

"This entire line of thought is thoroughly off-topic and is an attempt to railroad the issue of this thread -- violent crime in the Projects."

What makes this topic any different from the rest. And given the number of times that you have attempted to take things off topic over the years, I find your newfound devotion to the topic of the day, quite humorous.

"Ryan speaks for himself and needs no spin."

Actually, Ryan refused to speak and he spun out of the room.

October 9, 2012 at 1:27 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

As far as the violence in our society goes, it seems to me that most of it revolves around the underground economy created by the war on drugs and the income opportunities that draw youth away from more civil pursuits. The war on drugs is a failure in the same fashion that Prohibition was. It is not only encouraging the destruction of civil society, it is turning the United States into a police state.

If you want to give power back to parents, community and church, end the war on drugs and the seductive pull the drug economy has over so many of our youth.

October 9, 2012 at 1:28 p.m.
jesse said...

Red state , Raciest ,libitard,repugnant,tic-toc??

Almost like an autistic chant or something!

BTW: i just read where another one got blown away on east 14th st today!tally is up to 21 this year now i think!(dead,not just shot!)

October 9, 2012 at 2:15 p.m.
whatsnottaken said...

You losers who equate this to politics are hilarious. It's parent-less kids running the streets with easy access to weapons. The same societal bull crap existed in the 70s when I was growing up in East Lake. There wasn't such easy access to guns then, but the gangs and the violence was there then too. Guns just make it easier that fighting it out face to face. It's basically the chicken's way of being tough.

October 9, 2012 at 2:21 p.m.
conservative said...

Well BRP, you seem to have misunderstood me.

I loathe the unconstitutional Socialist and welfare programs of the federal government. If a state wants to take the role of a god in people's lives at least I could escape to another state which wasn't so Liberal.

. The reality that Libertarians are blind to is that the vast majority of people in this country have substituted government for the one and only true God. They will never allow politicians or the courts to deny them the redistribution of someone else's "wealth." I strongly believe Libertarians would not give up these "safety nets" as well.

Libertarians and Liberals also agree on killing the unborn, legalizing drugs and any depraved sexual behavior. History has shown that there are grave consequences to societies which allow such. These are not Conservative values or positions!

The right to "freely associate" with others will be seen by minorities as the right to exclude them from areas of our society such as business, recreation, clubs, resturants, schools etc. This is also a reality that Libertarians are blind to.

Libertarians talk of "freedom" and "taxes" which sound so good but will not man up and promote and advocate these other positions. Now why is that?

October 9, 2012 at 2:23 p.m.
jesse said...

When i was a teen in n.Chatta. in the 50's i hung out w/my buds at the old Milky Way drive inn and in River view but it wasn't a GANG! We all went to school togeather and were bud,no killin, shootin ,stealin and drugs but lots of drag racein and beer drinkin and such!good times!

October 9, 2012 at 2:32 p.m.
joneses said...

Another Hussein Obama lie.

By Thomas Sowell

When President Barack Obama and others on the left are not busy admonishing the rest of us to be "civil" in our discussions of political issues, they are busy letting loose insults, accusations and smears against those who dare to disagree with them. Like so many people who have been beaten in a verbal encounter, and who can think of clever things to say the next day, after it is all over, President Obama, after his clear loss in his debate with Mitt Romney, called Governor Romney a "phony."

Innumerable facts, however, show that it is our Commander in Chief who is Phony in Chief. A classic example was his speech to a predominantly black audience at Hampton University on June 5, 2007. That date is important, as we shall see.

In his speech -- delivered in a ghetto-style accent that Obama doesn't use anywhere except when he is addressing a black audience -- he charged the federal government with not showing the same concern for the people of New Orleans after hurricane Katrina hit as they had shown for the people of New York after the 9/11 attacks, or the people of Florida after hurricane Andrew hit.

Departing from his prepared remarks, he mentioned the Stafford Act, which requires communities receiving federal disaster relief to contribute 10 percent as much as the federal government does.

Senator Obama, as he was then, pointed out that this requirement was waived in the case of New York and Florida because the people there were considered to be "part of the American family." But the people in New Orleans -- predominantly black -- "they don't care about as much," according to Barack Obama.

If you want to know what community organizers do, this is it -- rub people's emotions raw to hype their resentments. And this was Barack Obama in his old community organizer role, a role that should have warned those who thought that he was someone who would bring us together, when he was all too well practiced in the arts of polarizing us apart.

Why is the date of this speech important? Because, less than two weeks earlier, on May 24, 2007, the United States Senate had in fact voted 80-14 to waive the Stafford Act requirement for New Orleans, as it had waived that requirement for New York and Florida. More federal money was spent rebuilding New Orleans than was spent in New York after 9/11 and in Florida after hurricane Andrew, combined.

Truth is not a job requirement for a community organizer. Nor can Barack Obama claim that he wasn't present the day of that Senate vote, as he claimed he wasn't there when Jeremiah Wright unleashed his obscene attacks on America from the pulpit of the church that Obama attended for 20 years.

October 9, 2012 at 2:33 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

The DNC seems to be in a tizzy. Heartbreaking.

October 9, 2012 at 2:50 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

conservative said... “Well BRP, you seem to have misunderstood me. I loathe the unconstitutional Socialist and welfare programs of the federal government. If a state wants to take the role of a god in people's lives at least I could escape to another state which wasn't so Liberal.”

Your loathing means nothing if you are not willing to abandon a party that gives you the things that you loath. The first step is to refuse to endorse these people with your vote and help get people elected that are willing to fight to eliminate the federal intrusions in our lives.

“The reality that Libertarians are blind to is that the vast majority of people in this country have substituted government for the one and only true God. They will never allow politicians or the courts to deny them the redistribution of someone else's "wealth." I strongly believe Libertarians would not give up these "safety nets" as well.”

Libertarians are not blind to the shift left in the attitudes of the population. It is quite clear that since the government schools were created and teaching of Constitutional principles has all been abandoned that those promoting a socialist agenda have had a big impact on the average citizen’s outlook. The socialist leaning media, the educational system and both political parties are all complicit. If it were possible to opt out of the “safety nets” without having to go underground and run the risk of government persecution I would have done so a long time ago. I suppose that many Libertarians would expect some compensation for the enormous amount of wealth that has been taken from them in the name of the “safety nets” if they were given the option to exit but that is not the same as not being willing to give up those “safety nets”.

”Libertarians and Liberals also agree on killing the unborn, legalizing drugs and any depraved sexual behavior. History has shown that there are grave consequences to societies which allow such. These are not Conservative values or positions!”

It is not true to say that Libertarians support abortion. They support turning the issue back over to the states.

History has shown that when the government tries to protect us from ourselves as they do with the war on drugs that they do more harm than good. I wish you could let go of this kind of mother hen behavior as a legitimate role of government.

The government has no business regulating what goes on in anyone’s bedroom as long as no one is doing harm to another.

October 9, 2012 at 2:52 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

”The right to "freely associate" with others will be seen by minorities as the right to exclude them from areas of our society such as business, recreation, clubs, resturants, schools etc. This is also a reality that Libertarians are blind to.”

What role does the government have deciding who associates with whom?

”Libertarians talk of "freedom" and "taxes" which sound so good but will not man up and promote and advocate these other positions. Now why is that?”

That statement is astounding to me. What evidence do you have that Libertarians are not willing to man up? We do what we can to try to get a voice in the current system and people who call themselves conservative ridicule one of the few groups that are still fighting to restore our freedoms. Those that claim to be conservatives and scorn the ones that still have their eye on the ball are the ones who are failing to “man up”.

October 9, 2012 at 2:53 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Actual quote from pres spokeswoman: "There's been a strong grassroots outcry over the attacks on Big Bird "."Obama '08: When you don't have a record to run on, "you make big elections about small things." Obama '12: I stand with Big Bird. Campaign is faltering, people.

October 9, 2012 at 3 p.m.
miraweb said...

How about the right to freely not-associate?

On Aug. 14, Mr. Romney led a rally at Murray’s Century Mine near Beallsville in southeast Ohio surrounded by miners, many of them with dust-smudged faces, as he accused President Obama of waging a war on coal. Footage of the rally was later featured in a TV ad that aired in Ohio and West Virginia.

Later, some of those miners told a West Virginia radio station that Murray closed the mine that day to accommodate the rally and required the miners to attend without pay.

Liberal advocacy group Progress Ohio filed a complaint last month with the FEC in connection with that event.

The complaints filed Monday go further, arguing that Mr. Murray and his company pressured employees to contribute to the company’s political action committee through automatic payroll deductions and attendance at fund-raisers for state and federal Republican candidates.

The complaint points to a memo purportedly written by Mr. Murray on March 7 to complain that employee attendance at the fund-raisers has been “very bad.”

“What is so difficult about asking a well-paid, salaried employee to give us three (3) hours of his/her time every two months?’’ the memo reads.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Politics/2012/10/08/Ohio-Dems-seek-coal-firm-probe.html

October 9, 2012 at 3:02 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

miraweb said... "How about the right to freely not-associate?"

Can we assume then that you do not support the same when Unions are the ones guilty of forced association?

October 9, 2012 at 3:33 p.m.
conservative said...

BRP...

"What role does the government have deciding who associates with whom?"

Are you serious? Civil Rights sound familiar? Minorities will never agree with this and that is reality. Now man up and often state this Libertarian position of free association.

"What evidence do you have that Libertarians are not willing to man up?" The silence of Libertarians in their agreement with Liberals on social issues mostly.

"one of the few groups that are still fighting to restore our freedoms." Drugs, pornography, prostitution, homosexuality, divorce, are more prevalent and tolerated now than at any time in our nation's history. Regrettably, one has more "freedom" to engage in these destructive behaviors than ever before and our society is paying the price.

BTW saying that the war on drugs is a failure is not the same as saying let's legalize all drugs and also prostitution and homosexuality and pornography and any sexual behavior deemed immoral, or depraved, or disgusting by Conservatives. Perhaps I missed you positively stating your desire that Americans have the "freedom" to engage in these activities.

October 9, 2012 at 3:57 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

conservative said... (REF: What role does the government have deciding who associates with whom) “Are you serious? Civil Rights sound familiar? Minorities will never agree with this and that is reality. Now man up and often state this Libertarian position of free association.”

Before we go down this path, please specifically expand your connection between civil rights and free association. An example would help. There is no point in arguing if we have different perceptions of what we are arguing about.

October 9, 2012 at 4:33 p.m.
miraweb said...

I am always concerned when a person thinks their money means they own other people.

A work contract is an agreement between two people to exchange time and skills for a set amount of money.

Demanding more time without pay is simple thievery - just the same as robbing the till or taking a shirt off a rack.

The difference is a person has a chance of making more money or to get the shirt back.

Time is a limited, very precious commodity for us all. There is no way to give back stolen time.

Abusing a work contract (with the explicit or implicit threat of firing) to win political favors and buy influence over a candidate is the behavior lowest of the low - from whatever source it originates.

October 9, 2012 at 4:35 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Mira, you've obviously never been exposed to a union situation where "work rules" allow for, in essence, screwing off. If you've never been exposed to situations involving teamsters, or UAW workers, you have no clue. That "simple thievery" cuts both ways.

October 9, 2012 at 4:44 p.m.
conservative said...

BRP...

"Your loathing means nothing if you are not willing to abandon a party that gives you the things that you loath."

Show me any statement of mine to the contrary

"help get people elected that are willing to fight to eliminate the federal intrusions in our lives."

I agree with that.

" I wish you could let go of this kind of mother hen behavior as a legitimate role of government."

I have no such view.and I challenge you to bring forth any statement of mine supporting your contention.

I, as opposed to Libertarians am not blind to the cost to Americans that come from the sanction of destructive behavior. The proliferation and toleration of drugs, sodomy, pornography and prostitution has monetary, emotional, psycological consequences that incur costs often far beyond those to the practitioner. Are Libertarians that blind?

"The government has no business regulating what goes on in anyone’s bedroom as long as no one is doing harm to another"

"as long as no one is doing harm to another"- a nice strawman but an impossiblity!

October 9, 2012 at 4:57 p.m.
miraweb said...

So Jack - are you saying that the Ohio coal mine owner is within his rights to do this?

October 9, 2012 at 4:58 p.m.
conservative said...

BRP...

"free association" like "states rights" is red meat to race mongers because minorities believe and will be led to believe that they will/can be excluded from clubs, schools, restaurants, business etc. I don't see how you could be this naive. Just imagine what the mess media would do to a Republican candidate if he were to advocate "free association" in campaign speeches.

October 9, 2012 at 5:13 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Mira: No. Just saying the union/management relationship has two sides. It's not all about the mean ole owners. Lots of sorry-ass union workers too.

October 9, 2012 at 5:20 p.m.
DJHBRAINERD said...

The current system pays poor people to breed, if you want a bigger voucher have another child. Can't get married or have your babby daddy live with you , just visit, or you lose your voucher. Make too much money and your benifits are cut. Make sure you don't put his name on birth certificate or you will lose your check. Now your 30 with 3 kids and you want to live your life so the child is left to fend for himself and drugs are the only source of income, so start slingin. Gotta get some protection and illigel guns are easy to find. No jobs because a man in the 3rd world is making your shoes and anyone who could fled the cities after the riots of the 70's and 80's. Buses don't run that far so your trapped without credit to get a car , don't have an education or a father figure to guide you. This is followed by a criminal record for simple possesion so no FASFA loan no Military no government or hospital jobs so better sling some more, it's all you got. Isn't it time to look at the system that promotes this as opposed to cheering for your political team? I will not endorse either major party with my vote. It is time to end the war on drugs, it is a tool to enslave the poor/uneducated who are trapped in the city.

October 9, 2012 at 5:20 p.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Wow, you people must all have ADHD. Your hyper attacks on each other over everything but this cartoon are laughable. Thanks for the Tuesday humor. I'll come back tomorrow when you go off on your politirants again. I can't wait for the chuckle.

October 9, 2012 at 5:22 p.m.
DJHBRAINERD said...

If you would like to stop the madness stop using the bible to justify limiting access to birth control. If you are destitute and need help, being a single mother with child, then we will help you but a choice must be made. You can have more babies but no more money/benifits. Have as many as you want but no more tax dollars. And to show our commitment we will offer free depo shots or PID's so you will not get pregnant while you are trying to better yourself. We will legalize drugs so you don't have to worry about your child getting a criminal record that will destroy any future oppertunities and we will not take away your benifits for having a man live with you. Now that would give incentive to leading a traditional(biblical) lifestyle. Focus on family and education instead of throwing good money after bad.

October 9, 2012 at 5:33 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Tu_quoque Response Re Paul Ryan's Comment: “They claim that he said the fighting of crime and gun violence is the job of Churches, charities, and civic groups. That he cowardly ran from the question of how cutting taxes would help in relation to those problems. . . The reporter clearly shows his ignorance of the subject matter.”

The reporter asked a legitimate question, Tu_quoque. It was only a few months ago that Mitt Romney was bad mouthing President Obama about this very thing. And according to Mitt Romney, the American people didn't need any more law enforcement officers:

“When Republicans attack public workers, they often take care to exempt cops and firefighters, because they are culturally sympathetic figures, and muddle the message that government workers are parasites who are destroying the economic conditions of ordinary Americans.

But today Mitt Romney got a good deal more specific, claiming we do not need to hire more cops or firefighters specifically, which would, he said, cut against the interests of the American people.

Romney made the comments in response to Obama’s presser today. . .;"

“. . .He wants to hire more government workers. He says we need more fireman, more policeman, more teachers. Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did. It’s time for us to cut back on government and help the American people.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romney-we-dont-need-more-cops-firefighters-or-teachers/2012/06/08/gJQAvOgDOV_blog.html

October 9, 2012 at 5:33 p.m.
tderng said...

DJHBRAINERD...You are absolutely correct in your assessment of what is the main cause of the problem.I agree totally with your solution.

October 9, 2012 at 6:01 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

conservative said... "free association" like "states rights" is red meat to race mongers because minorities believe and will be led to believe that they will/can be excluded from clubs, schools, restaurants, business etc. I don't see how you could be this naive. Just imagine what the mess media would do to a Republican candidate if he were to advocate "free association" in campaign speeches."

There are lots of interesting tangents being started here but when things start going in 10 different directions it starts to get to be more than I have time to invest. This is not necessarily the most interesting topic but since it is already broken out I’ll chase this one.

First of all, where did you get the idea that “free association” is a foundation of the Libertarian party platform.

I think I now understand that free association to you means the negative, like in free to disassociate? Minorities think that if there were no longer federal discrimination laws that racially exclusive clubs, schools, restaurants and businesses will crop up everywhere? Do you think that this is the reality or just the belief of some, maybe a minority within the minorities? Is it not much more likely that some racially exclusive places would crop up but the vast majority of places would continue on just as they do today? Do you know a bunch of “red necks” that would love a place to go for a beer where they would not have to worry about someone with a different skin color strolling in and “destroying” the ambiance? That is not the world I live in, but maybe you are right, maybe I am naïve!

Are you sure you are not attaching a meaning to two words in the platform that was not intended?

October 9, 2012 at 6:26 p.m.
mymy said...

…………….Business is at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate business, not kill it. However, the power brokers in Washington believe redistributing wealth is the essential driver of the American economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change they want.

So where am I going with all this? It's quite simple. If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company. Rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back. This means fewer jobs, less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone.

So, when you make your decision to vote, ask yourself, which candidate understands the economics of business ownership and who doesn't? Whose policies will endanger your job? Answer those questions and you should know who might be the one capable of protecting and saving your job. While the media wants to tell you to believe the "1 percenters" are bad, I'm telling you they are not. They create most of the jobs. If you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the "1%"; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country.

You see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.

Signed, your boss,

David Siegel

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/10/09/ceo-threatens-fire-employees-if-obama-reelected-and-raises-taxes#ixzz28qVHVZra http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/10/09/ceo-threatens-fire-employees-if-obama-reelected-and-raises-taxes#ixzz28qF4kybK

October 9, 2012 at 7:05 p.m.
mymy said...

In an experiment apparently aimed at keeping down the cost of health-care reform, Orlando-based Darden Restaurants has stopped offering full-time schedules to many hourly workers in at least a few Olive Gardens, Red Lobsters and LongHorn Steakhouses.

Darden said the test is taking place in "a select number" of restaurants in four markets, including Central Florida, but would not give details. The company said there has been no decision made about expanding it.

In an emailed statement, Darden said staffing changes are "just one of the many things we are evaluating to help us address the cost implications health care reform will have on our business. There are still many unanswered questions regarding the health care regulations and we simply do not have enough information to make any decisions at this time."

Analysts say many other companies, including the White Castle hamburger chain, are considering employing fewer full-timers because of key features of the Affordable Care Act scheduled to go into effect in 2014. Under that law, large companies must provide affordable health insurance to employees working an average of at least 30 hours per week.

If they do not, the companies can face fines of up to $3,000 for each employee who then turns to an exchange — an online marketplace — for insurance.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-darden-part-time-workers-20121007,0,1505128.story

October 9, 2012 at 7:15 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

mymy: Well, we had to pass it to know what was in it.

October 9, 2012 at 7:20 p.m.
mymy said...

The stupidity of people still amazes me!!!!

October 9, 2012 at 7:21 p.m.
conservative said...

BRP..

"Are you sure you are not attaching a meaning to two words in the platform that was not intended?"

Well I might be or was led to believe that by another website on the subject of Libertarian positions. I went to the http://www.lp.org/platform website and the words "free association" are not found in it. However, there are generally worded positions at this site which could or could not lead to that conclusion if the positions were more clearly defined.

I admit I must have gotten that term or a similar term from another website and that those specific words are not at this site. However, I do wonder what was meant by "that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships," and "Since governments, when instituted, must not violate individual rights, we oppose all interference by government in the areas of voluntary and contractual relations among individuals" and "Recognizing that the education of children is a parental responsibility, we would restore authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government"

I can easily see race mongers and the mess media bludging a Republican candidate with charges of exclusion and discrimination if he were to make such general statements.

October 9, 2012 at 7:35 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Tu_quoque rants: “He asked a loaded question that had no truth “

Huh? Where is this alleged loaded question, Tu_quoque?

Again, I believe the reporter’s response and question to Ryan was reasonable. If our country doesn’t invest a sufficient number of tax dollars in our courts and law enforcement agencies, our laws will not be enforced. If you don’t invest a sufficient number of tax dollars in the inner cities, there won’t be opportunities in the inner cities. And if you’re constantly trying to cut taxes and tax rates, common sense should tell you that at some point there won’t be enough tax dollars to accomplish much of anything in the suburbs or the country or the inner cities.

As to Paul Ryan’s statement about a civil society charities, churches, and civic groups, I found this to be rather humorous. While it’s true that charities, churches, and civic groups try to help and work to teach people good character, it’s hardly their sole responsibility. Parents should also be teaching these things to their children. The same is true of politicians, but we all know what poor role models politicians make, especially those like Paul Ryan who lie a lot and refuse to invest tax dollars in our nation’s youth, poverty programs and opportunities for inner cities.

October 9, 2012 at 7:49 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

conservative said... "I can easily see race mongers and the mess media bludging a Republican candidate with charges of exclusion and discrimination if he were to make such general statements."

I don't doubt your concern about the media and race baiters. Before we complicate the discussion with "political realities", I think it is useful to examine the core questions and decide what we really believe in. Then we can examine the political realities and decide if they are standing in the way. If so, it is our responsibility to find a solution.

October 9, 2012 at 7:51 p.m.
MTJohn said...

mymy said..."Welfare started the root of a lot of this country's problems and needs to be reined in."

Slavery is the root of a lot of this country's problems and it will remain ever so until we get down on our knees and confess the sins of our history and the current generation's sin of ignoring the consequence of our history.

October 9, 2012 at 8:20 p.m.
conservative said...

BRP... I found another Libertarian platform statement that could be used by race hustlers :

"We defend the right of individuals to form corporations, cooperatives and other types of companies based on voluntary association"

This seems like "free association" to me. It seems to open the door for all male, all female, all black, all white employees and the end of "quotas."

So imagine the fireworks if Bob Corker or Romney were to say in a campaign speech "We defend the right of individuals to form corporations, cooperatives and other types of companies based on voluntary association."

October 9, 2012 at 8:24 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

So what do the words mean? It brings me back to some old questions. Do we need to be worried about racially exclusive clubs, schools and restaurants cropping up all over the place or are we just afraid of what the race & gender baiters will say?

Do you think Hooters should be required to hire ugly women and male servers?

I think we are beyond the point that we need quotas and affirmative action but we are just afraid to raise the topics because someone will label us a racist. That has been the tactic of the race baiters for quite a while now. Just because they say it does not make it true.

This might be one of those battles that is best left for a later day. There are bigger fish to fry. On the other hand it seems to be a lower bar to hurdle than the entitlement programs. Maybe it would be easier to focus on true equal opportunity without government interference. Make it the first layer of the onion and win a victory for truth and rational debate before we move on to the more challenging hurdles that involve getting people off the tit.

October 9, 2012 at 8:56 p.m.
ricardo said...

BigRidgePatriot said..."Do you think Hooters should be required to hire ugly women and male servers?"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517334,00.html

October 9, 2012 at 9:14 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

What about the liberal war on the cookie monster? Where is the outrage?

October 9, 2012 at 10:08 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"You have to scratch your head when the president spends the last week talking about saving Big Bird," he said. "I actually think we need to have a president who talks about saving the American people and saving good jobs."---Mitt Romney

October 9, 2012 at 10:13 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Romney signs defaced with excrement in Virginia.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/9/romney-signs-defaced-excrement-virginia/

aahhh liberals, so sophisticated and mature. Democrats are the party of civility don't ya know? F_cking morons.

October 9, 2012 at 10:21 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Daily Swing State Tracking Poll: Romney49%. Obama47%.

October 9, 2012 at 10:24 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Biden Has Not Sat for On-Camera Nationally Televised Interview in 5 Months

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-has-not-sat-camera-nationally-televised-interview-5-months_654033.html

October 9, 2012 at 10:26 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Ann Romney will be co-hosting Good Morning America, everybody! So much for the "main stream media" being biased. What a useful tool that garbage has been for disputing any news that doesn't suit your preconceived fascist worldview.

GOPher broke, Ms. Vitu_perativity.

October 9, 2012 at 10:27 p.m.
raygunz said...

Question,,,

Do people who live in the projects have 2nd amendment rights too?

October 9, 2012 at 10:46 p.m.
tderng said...

raygunz said... Question,,,

Do people who live in the projects have 2nd amendment rights too?

Provided they meet the legal requirements,I would assume so. unless the anti-gun (the left) lobbbyists have usurped this right on behalf of the poor.

October 9, 2012 at 11:29 p.m.
fairmon said...

mountainlaurel said....

I just read an article earlier this morning where Paul Ryan was saying this very thing:

“. . . the best thing to help prevent violent crime in the inner cities is to bring opportunity in the inner cities, is to help people get out of poverty in the inner cities, is to help teach people good discipline, good character. That is civil society. That's what charities, and civic groups, and churches do to help one another make sure that they can realize the value in one another."

ml..You apparently read with a bias looking for opporutnities to attack republicans. where does this Ryan statement say a well trained and staffed local police force is not necessary or needed. There is no justification for the federal government borrowing money to fund local police. State and local law enforcement funding is and should be a local and state obligation.

October 10, 2012 at 12:03 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Harp3339 said: “State and local law enforcement funding is and should be a local and state obligation.”

I’d say this depends upon the type of problem that States and cities are addressing, Harp3339. This political cartoon is about gangs and gang violence, and, while I don’t know all of the specifics about our local gangs, I have worked in a State where the gangs are transnational – violence, organized crime, and drug trafficking being their primary trade. The point is that sometimes a city’s problems may be more complex and far more reaching than you think, and a city that is trying to cope with these types of problems might need the kind of additional resources that are not available through their State government.

The violence and shootings occurring at the East Lake Courts are an obvious red flag, but there are other things occurring that only reinforce the impression that things are getting out of hand. Just a few weeks ago, I was shopping in one of the smaller stores at the Hamilton Mall and noted a group of young males wearing gang attire strut into the store and walk out with merchandise without paying it. When I said something to one of the sales clerks she just shook head and suggested that it was ongoing problem. Apparently, the store’s management opts not to call law enforcement because they fear that a customer or one of their employees might get injured, which might very well end up being be the case if the group was carrying weapons.

Harp3339 said: "You apparently read with a bias looking for opporutnities to attack republicans.”

I believe Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan need to be challenged on this issue, Harp3339. Just a couple of months ago, Mitt Romney was telling us that we need to cut back and that we didn’t need more firemen, more policemen, and more teachers. Well, how does Mitt Romney know what a city like Chattanooga needs and doesn’t need? The same goes for Paul Ryan. The reality is that some cities do need more firemen, more policemen and more teachers.

Again, I believe the reporter’s response and question to Ryan was reasonable because Ryan and Romney have been making blanket statements about what cities need and don’t need. Well, I disagree with their conclusions, Harp3339. The needs of cities and states vary and should be addressed accordingly. If cities and states don’t invest a sufficient number of tax dollars in their courts and law enforcement agencies, laws will not be enforced. If they don’t invest tax dollars in the inner cities, there won’t be opportunities in the inner cities. And if politicians in these red states continue to cut taxes and tax rates, there won’t be a sufficient amount of tax dollars to do anything constructive for their cities, states, and residents.

October 10, 2012 at 8:12 a.m.
rolando said...

Are law abiding people allowed [by Housing policy] to have guns in their homes for personal/familial protection in the Projects [2nd Amendment Rights]? If not, is it a condition of occupancy?

October 10, 2012 at 8:35 p.m.
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