published Wednesday, October 10th, 2012

Good Advice

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Salsa said...

Funny, you didn't mind when Bill Clinton was flipping and flopping. If not for double standards you wouldn't have any standards at all.

October 10, 2012 at 12:03 a.m.
alprova said...

Bill Clinton was so...nineties ago.

Don't you people have anything recent to offer?

Romney is soooooo recent.

October 10, 2012 at 12:26 a.m.
alprova said...

Romney's Running again...which way is anyone's guess.

"I Would welcome the overturning of Roe v. Wade." (March, 2007)

"It will absolutely be a good day for America when Roe v. Wade is repealed." (May, 2007)

"Following in Reagan’s footsteps, I am converting to pro-life." (August, 2007)

"I Would be delighted to sign federal ban on all abortions." (November, 2007)

"Scientifically, life begins at conception." (January, 2012)

"There's no legislation with regards to abortion that I'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda," (October, 2012)

Spokeswoman Andrea Saul said: "Mitt Romney is proudly pro-life and will be a pro-life president." (October, 2012)

October 10, 2012 at 12:51 a.m.
Anklejive said...

8 October, 2012 - "I will recommit America to the goal of a democratic, prosperous Palestinian state living side by side in peace and security with the Jewish state of Israel."

17 May, 2012 - "The Palestinians have no interest whatsoever in establishing peace… we kick the ball down the field and hope that ultimately, somehow, something will happen and resolve it."

October 10, 2012 at 12:59 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

grasping

October 10, 2012 at 1:37 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN

I can't think of a political figure throughout history who shucked and jived like Romney. It's breathtaking. During the primaries Jon Huntsman called Mitt a well oiled weather vane for his ability to take multiple positions on the same topic.

Take gun control. In 2004, Mitt flipped on traditional republican gun values and signed into law a permanent assault weapons ban in Massachusetts. Governor Romney put it this way: “I believe the people should have the right to bear arms, but I don’t believe that we have to have assault weapons as part of our personal arsenal.”

He flipped again the next year when he declared in Massachusetts a Right to Bear Arms Day. Then he joined the NRA and now considers himself a feared varmint hunter.

Romney has campaigned this year to cut taxes 20% across the board, nearly double military spending, and balance the federal budget. Oh, the hilarity.

Despite the across the board tax cut, Romney apparently joked that, “I will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income Americans.”

That's funny in a creepy way; George Bush used a similar argument in a 2000 debate when he said that his tax cut plan for the rich really meant the rich "would pay more taxes."

What's worse? A shameless amoral politician who says anything to get elected, or working class parents struggling everyday who vote them into office?

Mitt Romney is a buffoon.

October 10, 2012 at 1:45 a.m.
fairmon said...

bw48 ask...

What's worse? A shameless amoral politician who says anything to get elected, or working class parents struggling everyday who vote them into office?

What's worse is when those working class parents put that same shameless amoral politician in office a second time especially when so many of them are formerly working parents that cannot now find a decent job. Romney may or may not be a better choice, Gary Johnson is the better option.

It is amusing on how an individual describes their candidates change in position as evolving to a different conclusion and the other candidates change in position as flip flopping. Could it be there will be little difference in results either will provide?

October 10, 2012 at 5:24 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said...

Bill Clinton was so...nineties ago.

True, ignore his endorsement of Obama and his speaches supporting Obama or Obama's references to Clinton's success. Judge Obama on his record and his "evolving" opinions on issues only then decide if four more years like the last four is the best option. Or, would Gary Johnson be a better choice.

October 10, 2012 at 5:40 a.m.
rolando said...

This is how bad things are in Democrat Mudville: Even the HuffPo is worried and declaring panic in the streets.

See http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/10/08/screen_shot_of_the_day_romney_could_win_this_thing

[I have no idea if huffpo.com still has that headline and photo posted, but townhall has a screen shot of it...]

That is just one measure of how The Obama's house of deceit and chicanery is tumbling down. Even the State Department is contradicting and exposing his fictional Bengasi scenario.

Better get on this one quick, Clay...he needs all the media help he can get. He undoubtedly is calling in all the markers he holds.

October 10, 2012 at 5:44 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

"buffoon"? What do you call the man who lost a debate to him?--the man who was going to close Gitmo, cut the deficit in half, keep unemployment below 8% and get it below 6% by now...?

But yeah, we can't trust most politicians, especially since Bush senior raised taxes after promising not to. What we do is try to guess, though their unreliable statements, what direction they're most likely to really take the country. President Obama is taking it down, so there's something to be said for giving Gov Romney a try, though Wilson Goode (Constitution Party) or Gary Johnson (Libertarian) would certainly do a better job.

October 10, 2012 at 5:48 a.m.
fairmon said...

A glaring statistic in favor of continuing grid lock. Check out the direction of the economy, unemployment and other key parameters from 1/3/2007, when democrats assumed control of congress, then look at 1/3/2011 to present when there was grid lock. It may mean who is elected as POTUS is not as important as retaining grid lock in congress.

Alprova's comment in a prior post that Clinton had no choice but to sign all republican pieces of legislation which, if true, meant Bush also had no choice his last two years in office with democrats in control of congress preceding the down turn in the economy at the end of his second term.

Retain grid lock or elect Gary Johnson and replace as many in congress as possible.

October 10, 2012 at 7:26 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

It is SO easy to look better than the dummy performing to the teleprompter.

October 10, 2012 at 7:40 a.m.
alprova said...

Harp3339 wrote: "Retain grid lock or elect Gary Johnson and replace as many in congress as possible."

Harp, your effort is noble, but I dare offer that until you brought it to our attention, not many people were even aware that a man named Gary Johnson was even running for President.

That aside, replacing members of Congress is a daunting task, to say the least, because while we can see and agree that many people in Congress definitely need a boot up their backside, the people who actually elect them, think they are all doing a great job.

It's kinda like how parents think that their own kids are angels, well-behaved, and cute....but everyone else's are brats.

October 10, 2012 at 7:45 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Alprova notes: "Romney's Running again...which way is anyone's guess. "I Would welcome the overturning of Roe v. Wade." (March, 2007); "It will absolutely be a good day for America when Roe v. Wade is repealed." (May, 2007); "Following in Reagan’s footsteps, I am converting to pro-life." (August, 2007); "I Would be delighted to sign federal ban on all abortions." (November, 2007); "Scientifically, life begins at conception." (January, 2012); "There's no legislation with regards to abortion that I'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda," (October, 2012); Spokeswoman Andrea Saul said: "Mitt Romney is proudly pro-life and will be a pro-life president." (October, 2012)"

Excellent Post, Alprova.

After four years of Mitt Romney, I think we would be a nation of nervous wrecks.

October 10, 2012 at 8:02 a.m.
joneses said...

Has anyone ever noticed that Clay Bennett never has a cartoon depicting anything good about Hussein Obama? For that matter has anyone ever heard Hussein Obama say anything good about his accomplishments? Has anyone ever heard a liberal hold Hussein Obama accountable for all his failures or lies? All they do is Romney this and Romney that. The problem is we know what we get with Hussein Obama, more massive debt, unending wars, more government control, more antibusiness legislation, higher unemployment, higher gas prices, a weak economy, more jobs moving out of the country, more socialism, a weakened military, open borders, being more vulnerable to terrorist attacks, more hate speech, more class warfare, more people on welfare and food stamps and the list goes on and on. I know this because this is Hussein Obama has delivered the last four years of occupying the White House. The proof is right there for all to see and anyone who supports this fool in the White House has to be against America and all it stands for or is just plain stupid.

October 10, 2012 at 8:21 a.m.
alprova said...

joneses wrote: "Blah, blah, blah...blah, blah.."

October 10, 2012 at 8:37 a.m.
mymy said...

27 Days to Go!

It is still the economy/jobs/foreign policy/direction of country/National Security here/abroad and the growing debt.

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock

You have to scratch your head when the president spends the last week talking about saving Big Bird.

What once was "Hope and Change" is now "Mope and Blame" LOL funny.

Romney/Ryan 2012

October 10, 2012 at 8:49 a.m.
hambone said...

What's one to think?

Romney says he will cut taxes 20% across the board.

Is that with the Bush tax cuts that are set to expire 1-1-2013 or after they expire?

October 10, 2012 at 8:55 a.m.
mymy said...

Wynn On Obama: "I'll Be Damned If I Want To Have Him Lecture Me"

Wynn on a scrapped business plan: "I'm afraid of the president. I have no idea what goofy idea, what crazy, anti-business program this administration will come up. I have no idea. And I have to tell you Jon that every business guy I know in the country is frightened of Barack Obama and the way he thinks."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/09/steve_wynn_on_obama_ill_be_damned_if_ill_have_him_lecture_me.html

October 10, 2012 at 9:03 a.m.
librul said...

A liberal, a conservative and a moderate walk into a bar. The bartender says: "Hi Mitt!"

October 10, 2012 at 9:07 a.m.
champ1 said...

So the democrats party line now is that Romney's a liar...got it. Funny how Obama waits for him to leave the room to start those accusations. He had a chance to call him a liar to a face during the debate...but he wasn't even man enough to look him in the eyes. Talking behind peoples back and being unable to make eye contact is usually the charectoristic that we assign to people we can't trust. But as usual, the democrats and their storm trooper media allies control the narrative. That's ok...America isn't as dumb as you think Clay.

October 10, 2012 at 9:11 a.m.
joneses said...

Wow! Alprova has posted the most intelligent string of words out of his limited vocabulary he has ever posted. And he votes. No wonder we have an idiot and lack of leadership in the White House. The truth is alprova cannot dispute anything I posted as not being the truth so he replies as a typical idiotic liberal would.

October 10, 2012 at 9:13 a.m.
joneses said...

A communist, marxist walks into the bar and the bartender says: "Hi Hussein Obama".

October 10, 2012 at 9:17 a.m.
mymy said...

Who is the real liar?

Benghazi, Libya!!!! One example!!!!

October 10, 2012 at 9:33 a.m.
carlB said...

joneses said... Has anyone ever noticed that Clay Bennett never has a cartoon depicting anything good about Hussein Obama? For that matter has anyone ever heard Hussein Obama say anything good about his accomplishments?

REPLY: joneses, You are going to be smarter than this. We know the "MATH" of the Republicans does not "SUM" up to what they are saying. Neither does the "LIES" being told by the opponents of President Obama change the facts that prove they are Lying. It is one of those "judgment" things of whether the voters go with the "Truth" or chose to base their votes on the proven "untruths."

October 10, 2012 at 9:37 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Who's she talking about. Romney's story is on the page they are not reading. C'Mon Tooney. You're smarter than that. Ain't ya?

October 10, 2012 at 9:38 a.m.
mymy said...

ABC News scrambles to downplay Obama’s attendance at VP debate moderator’s wedding

President Barack Obama was a guest at the 1991 wedding of ABC senior foreign correspondent and vice presidential debate moderator Martha Raddatz, The Daily Caller has learned. Obama and groom Julius Genachowski, whom Obama would later tap to head the Federal Communications Commission, were Harvard Law School classmates at the time and members of the Harvard Law Review.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/abc-news-scrambles-to-cover-up-barack-obamas-attendance-at-vp-debate-moderators-wedding/#ixzz28u4KOCVe

October 10, 2012 at 9:45 a.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Alprova, like Bennett, can't dispute factually any of Jonses point on King Kenyan. Good post Jonses. When DemocRAT backers can't point to positives (by the way, the "real" unemplyment rate is 14.7%) - as there are none - They just Blah away.

October 10, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

^^^just nice to meet at least one classmate

October 10, 2012 at 10:08 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

DON’T GET FOOLED AGAIN

Mitt Romney is a wonderful salesman. In a previous life he was undoubtedly selling snake oil in the old West. The current incarnation has the same pitch.

“Step right up folks! Today I’m selling, ‘That Old Time Deficit Reduction Elixir.’ (previously sold under the label ‘Trickle Down Economics) Take this miracle formula for that pesky deficit! Need to balance the budget? Here’s all we have to do. Trust me, folks.

“Increase military spending! We need to nearly double the military budget to record highs. Higher than the Korean War! We need to give the pentagon billions of dollars worth of stuff they don’t even want! Don’t worry. It won’t add one dime to the deficit. Not a penny. Trust me folks, we need to cut taxes 20% across the board but it that won’t add one dime to the deficit, either. Not a penny. Even though there aren’t enough loopholes to close and exemptions to cut to balance it out. Even though the government will be taking in $498 billion less, it won’t increase the deficit. Not a penny. In fact, the government will be taking in MORE money! Trust me folks. Step right up and get your bottle of ‘That Old Time Deficit Reduction Elixir.’ It tastes like Kool-Aid.”

We drank that stuff before and we’ve got the scars to prove it. It’s the same load of crap George W. Bush was peddling in 2000. While we are still recovering from that calamity, Romney’s quick fix easy as pie this won’t hurt a bit fairy dust solution is to double down on trickle down.

Seriously?

October 10, 2012 at 10:25 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Someone schools the clown in the Whitehouse on his record and the intentions of his opponent and the clown says,

"Liar, Liar pants on Fire"!!!

This is what the office of the President has been reduced to.

October 10, 2012 at 10:56 a.m.
conservative said...

BRP...

"This might be one of those battles that is best left for a later day. There are bigger fish to fry. On the other hand it seems to be a lower bar to hurdle than the entitlement programs "

I agree that "voluntary association" is a lower bar to hurdle but it is a hurdle that can not be cleared. Why? Because the Demoncrats will demagogue the term to their advantage. This is just one of many platform positions by the Libertarian party that doesn't have a chance for acceptance by the majority of voters and every one is an insurmountable hurdle.

This brings me back to my original point that the Libertarian party needs to man up. They just seem to talk of "lower taxes" and "freedom" while omitting their many other positions that nearly all Demoncrats and most Republicans will never accept.

October 10, 2012 at 11:13 a.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....

replacing members of Congress is a daunting task, to say the least, because while we can see and agree that many people in Congress definitely need a boot up their backside, the people who actually elect them, think they are all doing a great job.

Very true with those same people saying increase their taxes but not mine. I will take grid lock since Johnson will not compete and congressional changes are not likely since incumbents have stacked it in their favor.

October 10, 2012 at 11:18 a.m.
fairmon said...

mountainlaurel said....

After four years of Mitt Romney, I think we would be a nation of nervous wrecks.

I think I would prefer a few nervous jitters than being impoverished and dependent on the government...wait a minute, being dependent on the government would be a good reason to be a nervous wreck for sure. ML..... You are confusing people. At least lie to me and tell me all the wonderful things Obama will do for me and how he will get everyone a good job with benefits....you know, a chicken in every pot and car in every drive way that someone pays for kind of thing.

October 10, 2012 at 11:24 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

conservative said... "This is just one of many platform positions by the Libertarian party that doesn't have a chance for acceptance by the majority of voters and every one is an insurmountable hurdle. This brings me back to my original point that the Libertarian party needs to man up. They just seem to talk of "lower taxes" and "freedom" while omitting their many other positions that nearly all Demoncrats and most Republicans will never accept."

It sounds like you want the Libertarians to adopt the republican platform. Let's drop this. I do not accept your "political realities" and that is all you want to talk about. When the sh!t hits the fan and the entire economic and political system is in turmoil we will all wish that we had been talking about principles instead of politics so we have a clue what it is we need to fight for.

October 10, 2012 at 11:25 a.m.
chatt_man said...

This cartoon is laughable. It depicts Romney as a flip flopper, yet where is the cartoon that shows Obama for the outright liar he is?

Obama gives a speech in 2007 and excoriated the Bush administration for supposedly refusing to waive requirements of the Stafford Act, which requires disaster victims to repay the federal government for emergency assistance, after Katrina struck the Gulf Coast, and he keeps up his divisive ways by saying things like “What’s happening down in New Orleans?” “Where’s your dollar? Where’s your Stafford Act Money? Makes no sense! It tells me, the people down in New Orleans, they don’t care about as much!”

Obama had the nerve to condemn the Bush Administration, but OBAMA HIMSELF, less than two weeks before that very same speech, as a Senator, VOTED NO ON A BILL THAT WOULD HAVE WAIVED THE STAFFORD ACT REQUIREMENTS FOR KATRINA VICTIMS.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/obama-fails-to-provide-aid-to-victims-of-hurricane-isaac-despite-2007-anti-bush-rhetoric-on-katrina-relief/

October 10, 2012 at 11:46 a.m.
conservative said...

BRP...

This from the Libertarian platform :

"All efforts by government to redistribute wealth, or to control or manage trade, are improper in a free society."

So, no federal government programs and since the word federal doesn't appear here it would also include state governments as well. Zero, 0 chance that the American people wiil give up their programs and checks!

And all those regulations, all those wonderful regulations that Liberals love to impose on us all because they care for us and want to protect us from the "greedy" corporations and business men who exploit the little people. Zero, 0 chance Liberals and legislatures will give up this power to "manage trade."

Another insurmountable hurdle.

October 10, 2012 at 11:54 a.m.
mtngrl said...

harp, that idea that Obama is causing dependency on the government is a big lie by republicans you seem to have fallen for.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3677

October 10, 2012 at 11:59 a.m.
mtngrl said...

I was just telling someone the other day that Romney would probably be pro-choice again by the 3rd debate. Its looking like we may not have to wait that long...

October 10, 2012 at 12:02 p.m.
notKeith said...

Looking through all these comments: nobody mentions the Etch-a-Sketch connection, that started with a Romney spokesman, Eric Fehrnstrom, on Mar 21:

Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It's almost like an Etch a Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and we start all over again.

And there you have it, folks - Romney by design is as sketchy as they come.

And it's the same Romney who said, in 2011, "I'm running for office, for Pete's sake, I can't have illegals [working on my property]". Was Romney concerned about "illegals"? No. He was concerned about appearances.

October 10, 2012 at 12:04 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

conservative said... "Another insurmountable hurdle."

Go ahead and keep voting for those "practical" republicans who gave you most of the entitlement programs I think you said you loath but have obviously resigned yourself to. Don't expect a different result if you insist on doing the same things.

About all we have accomplished here is to steel my resolve not do vote for your classic republican candidate by reminding me how important it is to vote based on principles and not for the lesser of two evils.

October 10, 2012 at 12:08 p.m.
notKeith said...

To chatt_man:

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

In 2007, two versions of this supplemental bill were presented: Obama voted against the specific supplemental bill that did NOT include a timeline for U.S. withdrawal from Iraq.

He voted FOR the bill that included the timeline. This accusation is especially egregious, because Obama was one of the Senate's major proponents for waiving the Stafford Act requirements for Katrina victims.

And BTW, quoting the Daily Caller for your "facts" is akin to watching Fox for "news".

October 10, 2012 at 12:13 p.m.
jdavid said...

Romney really wants the 47% to get pregnant (by the top 1%, (obvioulsy) so he and our rich friends can set up teams to abort the babies-- maybe make it an Olympic event- He's big with the Olympics- Two benefits-- gets rid of the underclass ( If any survive, thay will have better "breeding") and it's great sport-- more fun, even, than spearing dolphins from the yacht. Barbecued Big Bird for lunch, anyone? . . Boy, that was easy. I may have a future as a Republican spokesman. Just change the names involved and make stuff up.. It's on the internet(s) now so it must be true. Call me, Hannity-- I can make us richer-

October 10, 2012 at 12:39 p.m.
alprova said...

jones wrote: "The truth is alprova cannot dispute anything I posted as not being the truth so he replies as a typical idiotic liberal would."

You've been refuted many times on those same points you write over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, etc.

It's very hard to converse or debate with a Chatty Cathy doll, who types whenever the string is pulled out of your back.

Why refute you? You just keep on typing that same list over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, etc.

October 10, 2012 at 1 p.m.
alprova said...

mymy posted: "ABC News scrambles to downplay Obama’s attendance at VP debate moderator’s wedding"

"President Barack Obama was a guest at the 1991 wedding of ABC senior foreign correspondent and vice presidential debate moderator Martha Raddatz..."

Let's see...the President was a guest at a wedding 21 years ago, 17 years before he was elected President.

The woman is moderating a debate which does not include the President.

And for some reason, there are some people who think this is a conflict of interest, because...???

The Obama bashers are going into overtime this election.

October 10, 2012 at 1:08 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

jdavid said... "Romney really wants the 47% to get pregnant"

Welcome to the forum, idiot. All this place needs is another ridiculous clown.

October 10, 2012 at 1:11 p.m.
alprova said...

JonRoss copied and pasted: "Obama and groom Julius Genachowski, whom Obama would later tap to head the Federal Communications Commission, were Harvard Law School classmates at the time and members of the Harvard Law Review."..."

Oops. I thought that nobody attended any of the schools when the President did. Remember when the rumors going around were that the President was hiding his educational records because he had never attended any of the schools he claimed?

Well...gee...it looks like that one went nowhere, so now it's a crime to attend the wedding of a debate moderator 21 years before the debate of one's running mate.

Pathetic....simply pathetic.

It appears that there are people out there that are already looking for fodder to explain a poor showing by Paul Ryan tomorrow night in the Vice-Presidential debate.

October 10, 2012 at 1:16 p.m.
jdavid said...

Thanks BRP-- I thought you needed some company.

October 10, 2012 at 1:16 p.m.
jdavid said...

Too Quick- I'm hurt. I learned my style from you and BRP

October 10, 2012 at 1:20 p.m.
alprova said...

WWWTW wrote: "Alprova, like Bennett, can't dispute factually any of Jonses point on King Kenyan."

I could tear it apart, and have many times. It's pointless to do so for the umpteenth time. I am at the point that I no longer care what you people think or post about the President.

He's not going to carry any of the three states in our area, and the tripe you people post isn't going to sway a single mind who knows the truth.

"Good post Jonses."

What? The joneses fan club is born.

"When DemocRAT backers can't point to positives (by the way, the "real" unemplyment rate is 14.7%) - as there are none - They just Blah away."

I was just noticing the other day that people are simply dying in the streets, after being cut off from unemployment compensation, homeless, hopeless, and no longer able to scrounge through empty garbage cans along the streets for food.

Maybe Mitt Romney ought to be talking about the 47% of the people who are going to vote for him. He claims to like birds. There certainly are enough people running around flapping their wings all the time about how bad things are in this country.

Liars and birds run in packs, don't they?

October 10, 2012 at 1:28 p.m.
conservative said...

BRP...

"It sounds like you want the Libertarians to adopt the republican platform."

I have not read the Republican platform and I have voted for few Republicans in the last 20 years or so. I regard the Republicans as the party of BIG government and the Demoncrats as the party of BIGGER government.

You keep talking of principles but are shy to share many of those principles contained in the Libertarian platform. Many deceivers speak of "freedom", "fairness", "principals", "lower taxes" etc. instead of giving specifics. I wish Libertarians would be willing to lay out specifics or at least quote the planks in their platform.

October 10, 2012 at 1:37 p.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Jonsey, Homeless and hopeless don't have to starve. We call is work. We work, we get paid, we eat. Simple solution. Cept for King Kenyans' 14% unemployment. The real Obamanation, folks dyingf in the streets cause he can't create jobs.

October 10, 2012 at 1:47 p.m.
jdavid said...

Too quick- Not fair- Dog and Pony Show??- Mitt and Princess Ann have the pony show- That's their other Olympic event. I was impressed . It looked like the rider was trying to get the horse to step through the eye of a needle- If a horse can do it maybe he can get to work on a camel

October 10, 2012 at 1:59 p.m.
miraweb said...

Well - Mitt has ramped up his campaign appearances and dialed back his fundraisers. Unfortunately, the RomneyGaffe(TM) machine has ramped up as well. He does so much better when he's trapped in a hotel room talking to Rob Portman.


Q. “Section 1021 of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act gives the president the explicit power to detain via the armed forces any person including us, U.S. citizens, for an indefinite period of time, without trial.  Given that the NDAA determines the actual budget for the military, it’s kind of politically risky to veto it.  Would you have vetoed it because of that part of the bill that says ‘Hey we can detain you no matter what,’ and sent it back to Congress or would you have signed it?”

A. “As to that specific piece of legislation, I’m happy to take a look at it, but I don’t believe that this is a time for us to be pulling back from our vigilance protecting America and keeping us safe from the kinds of threats we face around the world.


Mitt this morning:

"There is no legislation with regards to abortion that I'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda."

Mitt's campaign this afternoon:

[Romney] "would, of course, support legislation aimed at providing greater protections for life."


Mitt yesterday:

"You can imagine how I felt when I found out he was one of the two Navy SEALS killed on Sept. 11," Romney said. "It touched me."

Mitt today:

Mitt Romney's campaign says the Republican Presidential candidate will no longer tell the story of slain Navy SEAL Glen Doherty, respecting the family's wishes.

Doherty's mother, Barbara Doherty, reacted strongly to the news. "I don't trust Romney. He shouldn't make my son's death part of his political agenda.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/10/romney-sidesteps-questions-guantanamo/

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2012/10/09/romney-says-abortion-legislation-isnt-part-of-his-agenda

http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/boston-north/Romney-campaign-will-stop-telling-story-of-slain-Navy-SEAL/-/11984708/16924826/-/mtiygt/-/index.html

October 10, 2012 at 2:21 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

conservative said... "You keep talking of principles but are shy to share many of those principles contained in the Libertarian platform. Many deceivers speak of "freedom", "fairness", "principals", "lower taxes" etc. instead of giving specifics. I wish Libertarians would be willing to lay out specifics or at least quote the planks in their platform."

Different Libertarians can differ somewhat on specifics. I can tell you what my feelings are but if you want, say, Gary Johnson's you should go look. Do you have any specifics for me?

Taxes - I would eliminate the corporate income tax as part of the FairTax (republicans and one conservative that I know will call the FairTax politically impractical). This would eliminate the IRS and all of the abuse against citizens and corporations it is guilty of. It would increase the tax burden on imported goods while holding the net retail price on domestic goods. It would eliminate the compliance costs of the income tax and also eliminate all of the payroll taxes. I would like to see a ballsy president pull an Obama and declare that he is no longer going to enforce the income tax laws after one year and say that Congress had better get their act together and pass the FairTax before they run out of money to spend.

After listening to Ron Paul speak at his rally in Tampa, about the unconstitutionality for the Income tax and the lawlessness of the IRS, I wondered if the above was what he would do if he made it to the Whitehouse.

Spare me the political realities. Your political realities bore me to tears.

October 10, 2012 at 2:22 p.m.
miraweb said...

Now the Florida voting gets interesting:

In a email to all his employees, Siegel said that he did not want to tell them how to vote — but wanted them to know that another four years of President Barack Obama could make it tough for him to keep people employed.

"You see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive," he said. "My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.

"Signed, your boss."

Often outspoken and sometimes flamboyant, Siegel and his wife, Jacqueline, achieved celebrity through a satirical documentary movie released this summer, called "The Queen of Versailles." It follows their effort to build a 90,000-square-foot mansion on Lake Butler, Fla.

Siegel confirmed Tuesday that he sent the email, saying he felt an "obligation to keep them informed."

The email was forwarded anonymously to the Sentinel by someone who said, "I feel like my boss is threatening me."

When asked about intimidation, Siegel said that was not his intent.

Siegel has said that in 2000, he strongly encouraged his employees to vote for George W. Bush and ran a "big sales campaign" for him. But when asked in the movie what he did to help Bush, he said, "I'd rather not say, because it may not necessarily have been legal."

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/oct/10/boss-tells-employees-a-romney-win-crucial-to/

October 10, 2012 at 2:34 p.m.
fairmon said...

mtngrl said... harp, that idea that Obama is causing dependency on the government is a big lie by republicans you seem to have fallen for.

Not really a republican thing since they will actually do little about the dependency state of our citizens. It depends on what one considers qualifying as a dependency activity which is not limited to the low or no income sector. To me, social security, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, section 8 housing, free cell phone time, universal connectivity taxes, extended unemployment benefits, federal grants, federal subsidies, special tax deductions etc. etc. etc. numbering in the hundreds with congress unaware of many of them are all dependency issues and enablers of those dependent.

Local and state governments have prostituted themselves to the federal government for grants, subsidies and other hand outs beyond anything imaginable which amounts to no state sovereignty on any issue. Many people, you may be one, assume states will do bad things although the same people elect members of congress that elect local and state politicians. The federal governments masking of issues with borrowed money give people that warm and fuzzy feeling and will do so until pay back day comes which may be a few years away but it will come.

This is the reason, as futile as it may be, Gary Johnson is the best and preferred candidate. You contend I am blinded while I contend you and those supporting the other party are blinded by the misleading rhetoric of both parties and the media.

October 10, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

So how do we diffuse this Libya catastrophe? Maybe amp up the abortion thing? The world is teetering and you leftists want to talk about abortion.....

October 10, 2012 at 2:53 p.m.
alprova said...

"Obama had the nerve to condemn the Bush Administration, but OBAMA HIMSELF, less than two weeks before that very same speech, as a Senator, VOTED NO ON A BILL THAT WOULD HAVE WAIVED THE STAFFORD ACT REQUIREMENTS FOR KATRINA VICTIMS."

The bill in question was HR 2206. Below is a link to the entire bill and it's contents.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR02206:@@@L&summ2=m&;

Buried in that massive military spending bill was the following:

*"(Sec. 4501) Sets the federal share of assistance provided for Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, and Texas in connection with Hurricanes Katrina, Wilma, Dennis, and Rita under the Stafford Act at 100% of eligible costs. Provides that such federal share shall apply to disaster assistance applied for before this Act's enactment.

Does anyone see a problem with that sentence? The Stafford Act was enacted in 1988.

"States that the federal share of certain disaster assistance provided under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act shall be limited to assistance provided for projects for which a "request for public assistance form" has been submitted."

No official form. No free money.

*"(Sec. 4502) Amends the Community Disaster Loan Act of 2005 and the Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Hurricane Recovery, 2006 to repeal prohibitions against canceling certain disaster loans authorized under the Stafford Act to assist local governments in providing essential services.

So after they loan the money to the local Govt's to assist people, it is now permissible for a Washington bureaucrat to cancel it.

No problem there at all.

And here's one that I'm sure many Republicans would have voted against the bill, if it were not that the main scope and purpose of HR2 2206 was to funnel billions to the military in Afghanistan and Iraq.

"(Sec. 4503) Extends the period for which FEMA may provide funds to a state or local government to pay utility costs resulting from the provision of temporary housing units to evacuees from hurricanes of the 2005 season."

How many people, and rightfully so, thought that after two years, that displaced people from those storms, should not have been able to pick themselves up by their bootstraps and have relocated someplace where they could have housed and supported themselves?

But of course, the only reason that Senator Obama voted against HR2206 was to be hypocritical two weeks later in a speech.

Sheesh...

October 10, 2012 at 3:10 p.m.
rolando said...

Project Veritas [the ACORN destroyers] strikes again!

See http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/10/10/caught_on_tape_obama_campaign_worker_helping_activist_vote_twice

You Progressives out there want to claim [again and again] that there is no such thing as Democrat voter fraud? This one is for you.

Did you note the SoCarolina Voter ID law was upheld in Federal District Court? Their decision will trickle down...

October 10, 2012 at 3:10 p.m.
alprova said...

"You Progressives out there want to claim [again and again] that there is no such thing as Democrat voter fraud? This one is for you."

Not one Republican wing-flapper in this forum has made mention of the Republican voter registration fraud going on across the Country, perpetrated by a man hired by Mitt Romney to find enough signatures to be included on the ballots in all 50 states.

Why even the Florida Governor, a man who previously proclaimed himself to be the Superman of ethical elections in his state, has suddenly come down with a case of shutmymouthitis.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/09/rick-scott-voter-registration-fraud_n_1951774.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

"Did you note the SoCarolina Voter ID law was upheld in Federal District Court? Their decision will trickle down..."

Did you note that the South Carolina Voter I.D. law does nothing to prevent anyone, Democrat or Republican, from voting in two different states, or for that matter, two different voting districts within the same state?

Something indeed is trickling down...on your shoes. Might I suggest you stand a little closer to the urinal?

October 10, 2012 at 3:39 p.m.
conservative said...

BRP....

Sorry to "bore" you with my exercise of free speech.

October 10, 2012 at 3:50 p.m.
mtngrl said...

That South Carolina voter ID law was upheld, but cannot go into effect until next year. It is not valid for this election

October 10, 2012 at 4:08 p.m.
alprova said...

I find myself in agreement with a statement made by Ron Paul

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/10/opinion/rand-paul-romney-foreign-policy/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

October 10, 2012 at 4:15 p.m.
alprova said...

"I don't know, my plane almost goes down, now I almost get burned with butter."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/10/ann-romneys-welsh-cake-emergency/

October 10, 2012 at 4:20 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Sensing panic on the left.

October 10, 2012 at 4:23 p.m.
mymy said...

The most sought after voters in America... Ohio undecided voters... will participate in a "live dial" of the vice presidential debate.

Viewers at FOX Nation will see the second by second reaction to every word spoken by both candidates for the entire 90 minutes. They won't have to wait for the post debate polls. They'll know who won and who lost -- and why -- the moment the debate ends!

Frank Luntz will be moderating a focus group of undecided Ohio voters in Cincinnati at 9pm EST. The focus group will be viewing the Vice Presidential debate with “instant response” dials to show their second-by second reactions to what is being discussed on a scale from 0-100.

RETURN TO FOX NATION TOMORROW 9PM EST FOR THIS EXCLUSIVE COVERAGE!!

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/frank-luntz/2012/10/10/tomorrow-exclusive-frank-luntz-ohio-voter-focus-group-streamed-live-only-fox-nation#ixzz28vPHaI4Q

October 10, 2012 at 4:34 p.m.
hotdiggity said...

Here we go. Some more of those good ole Republican family and Christian values they tout so highly. http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/20...

October 10, 2012 at 4:42 p.m.
alprova said...

tu_quoque wrote: "After all of that B.S. spin you didn’t even bother to counter the above statement."

On the contrary. Did he vote against HR 2206? Yes he did. Was his vote against the bill meant to deprive hurricane victims of additional funding? No one can begin to prove that assumption. I'm sure he had another, or several other reasons for voting against that massive spending piece of legislation.

Aid to Pakistan. Funding for more nuclear proliferation. Funding for foreign radio propaganda broadcasting, and more. Take your pick.

I'm pretty sure what I posted showed that the only contention raised, that Obama voted against funding for Katrina victims outlined in HR 2206, absolutely did not include any waiving of the provisions of the Stafford Act.

You're about the only person I know, who will call B.S. on a direct quoting from a legislative bill, and I just knew that you would respond with your usual offering of pointless rhetoric.

"No matter what you posted, the end result was that the Katrina victims got their funding and it was in spite of TheObozo’s “nay” vote."

Which illustrates why all this ancient history is nothing but a bunch of crap to start with.

Grasping at long dead straws of grass is all people like you can come up with these days to use against the President.

It's never worked and it will continue not to work in convincing people to vote for Mitt.

October 10, 2012 at 4:46 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

Actress Stacey Dash talks about Romney and the recent Twitter backlash. Dash says she has heard from the Romney campaign but has heard nothing from the Obama campaign.

"As a country, this is my choice. This is the man I want to lead my country. It's my right as an American citizen, it's my constitutional right to have my choice to who I want to vote for for president. And I chose him not by the color of his skin, but the content of his character," the actress told CNN's Piers Morgan.

LADY is being vilified by the left. Where are the femmies? Oh, that's right. They only protect females on the left. Hypocrites.

October 10, 2012 at 4:54 p.m.
alprova said...

hotdiggity wrote: "Here we go. Some more of those good ole Republican family and Christian values they tout so highly."

I'm sure that every Republican or Christian will not rush to defend U.S. Representative Scott DesJarlais, but you won't see many of them condemn the man either.

He, like several other Republican politicians, who have been caught with skeletons in their closets, just seem to fade into the sunset, without very much fanfare at all.

I'm sure that despite this revelation of the man's hypocrisy, which the man has chosen to write-off as "desperate personal attacks and gutter politics," there will be many Conservatives who will choose to cast their vote for the man anyway.

We'll know come November, if this was a fatal blow.

To some people, their allegiance to a political party outweighs any allegiance they might have to their religious ideals.

October 10, 2012 at 5:03 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

From all I know about DesJarlaid, he's a D-bag. Is that condemnation enough?

October 10, 2012 at 5:17 p.m.
alprova said...

Quite frankly, I didn't know who Stacey Dash was, or that she was black, until a few minutes ago, when I chased down the story behind Jack's rant.

I guess her plan to boost her foundering fame worked like a charm. The next question then becomes, will fortune follow with job offers due to her choice to tweet a modicum of support for the Republican ticket?

October 10, 2012 at 5:19 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....

I'm sure that every Republican or Christian will not rush to defend U.S. Representative Scott DesJarlais, but you won't see many of them condemn the man either.

Defending him would be as lame as your attempt to defend Wiener showing his wienie on the Internet or Clinton's wonderings.If the allegations are true this guy of a piece of sh$t not to be trusted.

A lot of rabbit chasing on this forum to avoid the issues of deficits, debt, wars and decent jobs not being available.

October 10, 2012 at 5:36 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

mouse-noogies: Don't quit your day job.

October 10, 2012 at 5:50 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Flip Flop Obama

Obama's broken promises, flip flops, or just lying to get elected

Obama's Flip Flops: Who Is Barack Obama??

Since you liberals feel so strongly against "flip-flopping", I figured I'd post a few videos of it.

October 10, 2012 at 6:14 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Biden Complains People 'Can Barely Pay To Fill Their Gas Tank' - Back In '08 Debate

http://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/biden-complains-people-can-barely-pay-fill-their-gas-tank-back-08-debate

Now they say, "we can't control gas prices". Yet somehow, it was the republicans' fault in 2008. How convenient.

October 10, 2012 at 6:22 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Jay Carney Lied to the White House Press Corps

An outright LIE from Obama to you!

October 10, 2012 at 6:31 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

ABC News scrambles to downplay Obama’s attendance at VP debate moderator’s wedding

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/10/abc-news-scrambles-to-cover-up-barack-obamas-attendance-at-vp-debate-moderators-wedding/#ixzz28wEVJeix

Seems the Obama team already has the moderator lined up on his side. Biden is an unadulterated idiot. Ryan is not.

October 10, 2012 at 6:35 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Alpo said: "The next question then becomes, will fortune follow with job offers due to her choice to tweet a modicum of support for the Republican ticket"?

Alpo is a typical liberal who cannot conceive the notion of someone doing something from the heart without the forethought of personal gain. Absolutely textbook.

October 10, 2012 at 6:41 p.m.
alprova said...

"A lot of rabbit chasing on this forum to avoid the issues of deficits, debt, wars and decent jobs not being available."

Deficits and debts are not going to be addressed by anyone until this nation's economy has recovered substantially. Even then....

We have had several periods since the debt began its long climb 31 years ago, when it was more practical to apply much needed funds to reducing the debt, yet not one politician has made a serious effort to reducing it.

Obama, as President, has ended active participation in one war, has established a firm deadline for ending our personal involvement in a second war, and is resisting all efforts, pleas, and invitations to involve this country in a third war.

Mitt Romney on the other hand, makes it clear that he would stand ready to rush us into a very incendiary situation that could very easily develop into a third World War if Iran's allies rush in to defend them.

Mitt Romney has pledged to add $2 trillion more to expand an already bloated military, a pledge that no doubt is being offered to appease war profiteers that have done very well under Republican administrations.

Money handed to the Department of Defense represents 52 cents spent out of every dollar that Congress approves and appropriates.

Then you add to this, Mitt Romney's pledge to income cut taxes across the board for all Americans and to eliminate other taxes that bring revenue into the Gov't. He has pledged to pay for these tax cuts via a yet undefined tax code overhaul that includes the elimination of tax loopholes, credits and deductions that will make his pledge "revenue neutral."

Anyone who believes that enough deduction eliminations exist, that will not directly result in a tax increase for those in the middle class if he does attempt his proposals, is ready to take walk their dog down a path made of yellow bricks to find their way to the Emerald City.

Barack Obama has not been a perfect President, under anyone's criteria, including my own, but to think that Mitt Romney is a man that will magically enact a strategy that transform this nation into a booming economy, is incredible, to say the least.

Mitt Romney is an enigma. His shoes are made of enormous waffles. He tap dances in front of every crowd he appears in front of, licks his index finger and sticks it into the air to see which way the wind blows, to gauge what it is he stands for and believes in, before he opens his mouth to form words.

Following a failed effort to help elect more Republicans to seats in Beacon Hill in 2005, then Governor Mitt Romney told a Boston Globe reporter, "It's me-me-me from now on..." He left office in 2007 with a 34% approval rating. He will not carry his own home state when voting is concluded next month.

It is no doubt going to be a very tense on election night for everyone, no matter which ticket they hope wins the prize of leading this nation for the next four years.

October 10, 2012 at 7:10 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Enrollment in Food Stamps, Medicaid, and Disability Far Outpaces Job Growth in Last 4 Years

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/enrollment-food-stamps-medicaid-and-disability-far-outpaces-job-growth-last-4-years_654145.html

October 10, 2012 at 7:17 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

"His shoes are made of enormous waffles. He tap dances in front of every crowd he appears in front of, licks his index finger and sticks it into the air to see which way the wind blows, to gauge what it is he stands for and believes in, before he opens his mouth to form words".

You just described Obama perfectly.

October 10, 2012 at 7:21 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES20800 "Alpo is a typical liberal who cannot conceive the notion of someone doing something from the heart without the forethought of personal gain. Absolutely textbook."

Please. The woman is an actress, first and foremost. You know doggone well that had she tweeted a political plug for Obama, the world would have yawned, because most people already believe that if you have dark skin, are of the female gender, and if you have ties to Hollywood, you are a likely Obama supporter.

That is the conventional wisdom of both Democrats and Republicans. Why deny it? Perception is reality.

By putting herself squarely in the limelight of controversy, by any one of several measures, she has placed a spotlight on herself, which was the purpose of her tweet.

You Sir are in complete denial if you believe for one minute that the woman tweeted from the heart, as you put it. She did it to put a spark plug in her all but dead celebrity status.

How many people do you think knew who that woman was before she made that tweet and the press picked up on it? She wasn't anywhere close to being an "A" list actress, but she may go on to be one now, if her plan works out.

Any actor or actress will tell you that even bad press is good for a celebrity's career. Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, and Michael Jackson are three shining examples of that very simple premise.

I'm betting that despite what she claims, if she actually walks into a voting booth next month, she will vote for President Obama.

Are you so sure that she will not?

October 10, 2012 at 7:32 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Adding Debt & Raising the Debt Ceiling

As a Senator, Obama opposed raising the debt ceiling, and said adding 4 trillion in was ”unpatriotic”. As President, he insisted the debt ceiling be raised and has added substantially more than 4 trillion to the debt.

Bush Tax Cuts

In 2008, Obama said that, as President, he would repeal the Bush tax cuts for the rich. In 2010, he extended those cuts.

Raising Taxes

In 2008, Obama pledged that, ”no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes. My opponent can’t make that pledge.” However, he has raised taxes on tanning, cigarettes, and those who do not purchase health insurance (regardless of income).

Senior Income Tax

In 2008, Obama said that, as president, he would ”eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year”. He has not done so.

Earmarks

In 2008, Obama’s campaign said that, as President, he would reduce earmarks ”to less than $7.8 billion a year, the level they were at before 1994″. Earmarks for fiscal year 2010 were more than $15 billion.

Iraq Surge

Obama originally opposed the Iraq surge and claimed that extra troops would not do anything to quell sectarian violence. However, after the surge was clearly successful, Obama suggested that everyone knew the surge would decrease violence in Iraq.

Iran Threat

Obama has never had a consistent position on Iran, but one particular shift over a two day period in 2008 is the greatest example of Obama’s waffling on the issue. On one day Obama suggested that Iran does not “pose a serious threat to us”, but the very next day he was describing Iran as a “grave threat”.

Just a few "waffling" positions of Obama.

October 10, 2012 at 7:32 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Alpo said: "..... because most people already believe that if you have dark skin, are of the female gender, and if you have ties to Hollywood, you are a likely Obama supporter".

That sir, is a racist comment.

October 10, 2012 at 7:35 p.m.
alprova said...

TOES02800 wrote: "That sir, is a racist comment."

If you truly think so, then I urge you to spend a few moments looking up the definition of the word.

Racism is defined as a person holding the inherent belief that the people of one race are physically or intellectually superior to all other races of people.

Now go back and read what I wrote and see if you can find where I made any claim that Stacey Dash was physically or intellectually superior to all other people of another race, when I referred to political perceptions that most people would immediately assume that she would ascribe to, had she not tweeted a word to indicate that all was not as would normally be assumed.

October 10, 2012 at 7:50 p.m.
alprova said...

tu_quoque wrote: "This will get her news coverage but you’re an absolute fool if you think that the Libtards in Hollywood will be receptive to letting her benefit from it."

Are you under the impression that everyone in Hollywood is liberal?

Was Clint Eastwood faking it last month? While there are many notable actors and actresses who swing left, it is a fact that those who choose whom they cast in productions, are more likely to swing to the right of the political spectrum.

Hollywood is as divided politically as the rest of America is.

October 10, 2012 at 7:53 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

conservative said... "Sorry to "bore" you with my exercise of free speech."

As a Ron Paul, Gary Johnson supporting flaming Libertarian I have heard everything you have to say about political realities at least a thousand times. Shoot me something that does not come straight from the mouths of the republican establishment and you will perk my interest.

October 10, 2012 at 8:18 p.m.
fairmon said...

alprova said....

Barack Obama has not been a perfect President, under any one's criteria, including my own, but to think that Mitt Romney is a man that will magically enact a strategy that transform this nation into a booming economy, is incredible, to say the least.

I don't think you will find any place where I have said or even indicated Romney would transform the nation into a booming economy nor will you find me agreeing that Obama could manage a two person lemonade stand therefore I expect nothing but more demise of the economy under his watch.

alprova closed with....

It is no doubt going to be a very tense on election night for everyone, no matter which ticket they hope wins the prize of leading this nation for the next four years.

Not everyone, I don't give a tinkers darn which wins since the future results will be similar. However, should a significant change in congress in either direction occur I will tense up. Those seeking Obama care should vote for him and those not wanting it should not since that is the only thing possibly changing which is not likely. I can understand your unrelenting support for Obama since you were so thrilled you wet your pants when you got health care coverage. Health care coverage should be available and provided to more people but politicians and lawyers can complicate things to the point they don't even understand them.

October 10, 2012 at 8:25 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "Hollywood is as divided politically as the rest of America is."

You are one delusional piece of 50 some year old leftist hack. Yeah, there are conservatives in liberal Holly Wood. They have to keep their heads low in that Marxist hot hole until they have the clout to go around the machine like Clint Eastwood can.

Your perspective looks more ridiculous every time I waste my time reading one of your posts (averaging about one per cartoon I think).

October 10, 2012 at 8:26 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

alprova said... "Hollywood is as divided politically as the rest of America is."

That's the silliest shiz I've ever heard. Sometimes, ALPO loses control of his own spin.

October 10, 2012 at 8:33 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al posted "You Sir are in complete denial if you believe for one minute that the woman tweeted from the heart, as you put it. She did it to put a spark plug in her all but dead celebrity status."

Al get over yourself, you have no idea what Ms. Dash was feeling when she tweeted.

October 10, 2012 at 8:38 p.m.
ricardo said...

Jon Voight is conservative. The rest of Hollywood is not.

October 10, 2012 at 8:39 p.m.
ricardo said...

Who gives a flying phlegm who Stacy Dash is voting for?

October 10, 2012 at 8:41 p.m.
alprova said...

tu_quoque wrote: "WTF !! .. You just contradicted yourself in about a dozen words … You really should check with Guiness just in case."

You really need to get a grip. Nowhere in my response did I ever deny that Senator Obama did not vote "no" on that bill.

"No one made that claim … Dipshait !! If you will check my posts on this you will find that I did not say he voted to deny the waver but that he voted against the bill for what he could get out it to support his political position. That he was willing to deny the Katrina victims their funding to get his due."

First of all, I wasn't addressing your silly assertions to start with. The Daily Caller made the claim that he voted against HR 2206, which included funds with Stafford limitations waived, two weeks before his speech where he claimed that President Bush did not waive obligatory repayments under the Stafford Act.

Secondly, any opinion that you express as to what his intentions were and why he voted against that bill is pure conjecture on your part. Clearly, you don't buy his explanations as to why he voted no.

No one with a brain wanted us in Iraq to start with. The failing to include a time line for withdrawal of forces from that country is as good a reason for voting against that bill as any of those reasons I cited previously.

"The two bills were essentially the same except for the Afghanistan withdrawal timeline that he desired to get passed at other people’s expense."

You meant to type Iraq rather than Afghanistan, didn't you?

"Once again you dumbass, no body made that contention but only that he was willing to vote it down for his own political ends."

What are you drinking today? A direct accusation was made by the Daily Caller that Obama voted against funding for Katrina victims that would have waived repayment obligations under the Stafford Act, two weeks before he made a speech railing against then President Bush for not waiving Stafford requirements for Katrina victims.

That falsehood was the entire point of my post. I do not know whether or not GWB actually ever did or didn't waive Stafford strings on any funds offered to victims of Katrina. That unrelated claim is irrelevant to the charge made against Obama.

"I only called B.S. on you and your lies and strawmen."

You're always so eager to jump on other people without reading what they actually type or the source post that is often being responded to by those you jump on. You frequently embarrass yourself, not that you would ever admit it.

You really ought to be paying more attention to your own lacking in reading comprehension and your rather lengthy record of dispensing incredible claims.

By the way, are you ready to admit that you were incorrect in your literally incredible claim in holding Hillary personally responsible for security in Benghazi, Libya, or will you ignore it like you did last week?

October 10, 2012 at 8:51 p.m.
rick1 said...
October 10, 2012 at 9:04 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "You are one delusional piece of 50 some year old leftist hack. Yeah, there are conservatives in liberal Holly Wood. They have to keep their heads low in that Marxist hot hole until they have the clout to go around the machine like Clint Eastwood can."

But of course. Liberals in Hollywood use Conservatives for target practice. I'm sure if you have a few moments, you can cite many examples of Conservatives in Hollywood who had to keep their heads down in abject fear of the Liberal machine that exists there.

It's amazing to read the mindless thoughts of someone like yourself, who finds pleasure in cyber-bullying a political cartoonist, when the simple fact is that you wait with bated breath to see what he posts next.

"Your perspective looks more ridiculous every time I waste my time reading one of your posts (averaging about one per cartoon I think)."

I'm glad that you don't waste time reading my posts. They are not offered for you to evaluate or approve. I'm quite confident that Mr. Bennett doesn't offer his works to appease to your Libertarian points of view as well.

I suppose that until a Ron Paulian cartoonist comes along and sets up a discussion forum, you'll continue to be lost in space.

October 10, 2012 at 9:11 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Blah, blah, blah, you democrat hack.

Socialist ideologues like you will bring the predicted collapse of this country. When you are sitting in the pile of ashes I hope you have enough wits left about you to realise how stupid you were.

October 10, 2012 at 9:16 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Al get over yourself, you have no idea what Ms. Dash was feeling when she tweeted."

That is very true, but I happen to hold the belief that my theory is a bit closer to reality than that which TOES offered.

The consensus of opinions expressed by her adoring public seem to side with me as well.

October 10, 2012 at 9:16 p.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

God help a female (especially African-American) that speaks out against The Anointed One.
Where is the NOW crowd now? The lady needs help. You lefties are so hypocritical it's almost funny.

October 10, 2012 at 9:53 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

TOES02800 said: “Now they say, "we can't control gas prices". Yet somehow, it was the republicans' fault in 2008. How convenient.”

Dear TOES02800,

“Let us rid ourselves of the fiction that low oil prices are somehow good for the United States.”

Secretly yours,

Dick Cheney

Chairperson, Neo-Cons for Rmoney

October 10, 2012 at 9:56 p.m.
fairmon said...

TOES POSTED....

Just a few "waffling" positions of Obama.

Wait, do you mean you don't realize that Obama evolves while others waffle?

October 10, 2012 at 11:45 p.m.
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