published Monday, October 22nd, 2012

5-at-10: Alabama and Game 7s are great, UT's not

From the "Talks too much" studios...

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    Tennessee's Eric Gordon (24) latches onto Alabama's Eddie Lacy during the first half.
    Photo by Dan Henry /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Wow, that escalated quickly

There was no LaMichael Fanning suplex or overwhelming single highlight that dotted the exclamation point that was Alabama's 44-13 win over Tennessee.

The score was enough. The relentless wave of power that Alabama plays with was enough. The near-perfection that the Tide plays with was enough.

And barring a surprise that we can't foresee, Alabama has more than enough to keep the SEC saying enough for the foreseeable future.

Wow, are they impressive. And when you're watching them, especially as a fan of an opposing team, the first feeling you get is anger. The second is jealousy. They are just better than everyone right now. It's not like any recent SEC champ/national champ in recent memory:

Watching last year's Alabama team, you knew they were good but they relied on talent a little too much.

Auburn in 2010 had Cam Newton.

Alabama in 2009 surprised Florida in the SEC and was in practically a pick-em game against Texas BCS title games.

Florida had Tim Tebow

LSU and Florida before them were good teams that delivered in the biggest moments.

But none of them was like this. This bunch is complete. Period. Name Alabama's bets player, and there likely are five different answers from five different people.

Quick: When was the last time an Alabama player missed a tackle? And if you don't believe the Tide's talent level is at least two times as good as just about everyone else's know this: Alabama lost four players that went in the first 25 picks of last year's draft, and three of them — Trent Richardson, Dre Kirkpatrick and Dont'a Hightower — could have returned for their senior season. And if that doesn't convince, remember Tana Patrick, the highly regarded recruit from nearby North Jackson High School? We say he'd be starting at just about every other SEC school. At Alabama, Tana's a third-string linebacker.


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    Tennessee Volunteers head coach Derek Dooley during warm ups before an NCAA college football game between Akron and Tennessee on Saturday, Sept. 22, 2012, in Knoxville, Tenn.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

The rest of college football

As great as Alabama is, that still does not completely cover the stink bomb that Derek Dooley and Co. set off inside Neyland Stadium. Our ace columnist Mark Wiedmer points out some interesting trends and numbers in his column today

And, as he points out, the South Carolina can be the death-blow game for Tennessee coaches. South Carolina was also the last ranked team

It's disappointing and the paint by numbers picture being crafted by Dooley and Co. is a mosiac of misery.

— 0-14 against ranked opponents

— three consecutive 31-point losses to Alabama, including two in Neyland Stadium

— Vandy-and-11 in their last 12 SEC games

— Dooley is now 4-16 against the SEC in his time in Knoxville with wins over Vandy (2), Kentucky and Ole Miss.

Less than good. Less than acceptable. Well, less than acceptable for every UT fan not named Harold, who had Alabama winning by 28. Harold was closest in accordance to Price is Right rules (closest without going over), so we'll hook Harold up with some UTC-Georgia Southern tickets. Enjoy.

Elsewhere around college football...

— Monster win for the UTC Mocs. A team built on defense always has a chance. Kudos to Russ Huesman and his bunch, because they have made strides each year and have taken steps to get to the cusp. This is where you want to be if you're a Mocs fan — you're playing a home game against Georgia Southern that means as much to them as it does to you. A win almost locks up a playoff spot — providing there's not a late-year meltdown — and an impressive win could go a long way toward a first-round home game. Nice job Mocs.

— Back to UT for a second. For anyone who says Dooley inherited a mess, well, yes he did. But didn't Russ not inherit every bit as big a mess?

— Back to UT for one more second, Yes, Dooley inherited a mess, but remember who one of the potential candidates was when Dooley was hired — none other than David Cutcliffe. Yes, that David Cutcliffe who has Duke in first place in the ACC Coastal and already bowl eligible for the first time since 1994.

— Wow, Coach Boom and the Florida Gators are doing work. Work. And the South Carolina BCS train has lost more than a little steam, no?

— The Fab 4 (plus 1) picks went 4-2 last week with winners on Oregon, La Tech, Florida and TCU — plus 3.5 after buying the half — and losers on Nebraska (which played terribly in a one-point win) and Southern Miss. That makes us 28-13-1 this season. Not bad, but could have been better. We said at the beginning of the week, it'd take Tennessee plus-30 to bet on the Vols and we ignored it when it came check-cashing time.

— The Kansas State run is fun right now.

— Auburn is broken. Period. When you can't upset Vandy, it's busted. Hey, at least that opens up our Saturdays. Yay. Crud.


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    St. Louis Cardinals' Lance Lynn breaks his bat as he hits into a double play during the second inning of Game 5 of baseball's National League championship series against the San Francisco Giants, Friday, Oct. 19, 2012, in St. Louis.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.


There are few things in sports as enjoyable as Game 7.

Be it baseball, the NBA or even the NHL, Game 7 carries a certain panache that elevates the appearance. And the pressure elevates the intensity and enjoyment. We're in.

That said, Game 7s take one of two routes: They are either knock-down dragouts that make for endings for the ages (this fact is a combination of the stage, the meaning and the fact that Game 7s, unlike one-and-down playoff games, are the culmination of a series in which the teams are well-aware of each other) or blowouts that are decided by the fifth inning, halftime or midway through the second period.

We believe tonight's Game 7 between the Cards and the Giants will firmly be in the knock-down dragout category. This is a meeting between the last two champs (so they know the pressure and what it means to have their backs to the wall). They also know about overcoming hurdles. Let's look:

The Giants cleared losing an MVP front-runner to a failed steroid test. Their best pitcher since Juan Marchial imploded this year and has been in the bullpen for most of the playoffs. No matter, this bunch comes together, plays together and excels together.

The Cards lost their longtime manager, rightly chose not to over pay the best player in the game and were without their bets starting pitcher for most of the season. They won a one-game Wildcard playoff by beating an unbeatable pitcher. Amid it all, they believed and played.

Side question: In retrospect, not signing Albert Pujols is easy to praise. And looking at A-Rod's late career fading, it's doubtful anyone will get a 10-year deal at the age of 30 ever again. But even for a big-market club like the Cards — and we've always said, if you got it spend it — you have to ask what's a better use of $24 million per year: Albert Pujols or Matt Holliday and Yadier Molina?

Either way, we're in tonight.


This and that

— It's official: Lance Armstrong will loss his seven Tour de France titles. Dude's fall has been fast and furious, and the cover-up stuff that the entire team was doping to help mask Armstrong's use is kind of surreal, no? That said, here's a different question: Do you think on some side level Armstrong may feel a little better now that this mega-secret is out? Sure the disgrace and the loss of the seven titles — and he may have to pay back the $12 million he won in those races — is painful, but now he doesn't have to wrestle with those demons of lies. And those can be oversized demons that are on steroids (too soon?).

— We'll get more into this later, but we're pretty excited about the NBA. And news that Dwight Howard impressed in his Lakers' debut only adds to that excitement. The Lakers are there with the Celtics, Yankees, Red Sox, Cowboys, Steelers and Packers in that the leagues seem more fun and are better off when those teams are among the best in the league.

— Matt Kenseth survived a crazy race at Kansas that featured a record number of cautions because of a repaved surface. The wrecks hurt the title chances of at least four contenders, but hey, no bellyaching, everyone was driving on the same surface. In fact, Brad Keselowski grabbed hold of the title chase by avoiding the clutter and the carnage. Nice job Brad.

— We'll get into the NFL in a big way tomorrow, but it was a nice Sunday to spend the afternoon at Old McDonald's Farm in Sale Creek. War Family.


Today's question

It's another crazy Monday. Cuh-razy.

Feel free to cover any of the above. Yes, the always fun free-play.

It can be on Lance or the Vols or the Mocs on Game 7 or whatever.

It also can be in answer to this: Has anyone done a better coaching job than Bill O'Brien. Penn State is 5-2 — with a five-game winning streak after losing to Ohio and Virginia when the PSU kicker missed five field goals — facing unprecedented hurdles and thumped Iowa 38-14 this week.

Talk about inheriting a mess. Wow. Well-played indeed.

about Jay Greeson...

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JonathanMCook said...

So once again, I arrived at work early to get this knocked out.

Needless to say I was pretty close when it came to the point spread. But it goes to show how lopsided the two programs are. I give cudos for Mark's column this morning regarding JVF's somewhat unrealistic expectations along with my own brief personal take on the subject.

In the meantine, I don't thank I could ask for a better Saturday to come home to than October 27th. You got the Vols playing at noon against Spurrier 2.0 and probably one of the most sorrid rivalies going on at Finley (at 6:00 PM) where bragging rights be damned, this is now going towards the conference championship! I know coming out of the gate Spy has his "no way in hell you guys are gonna win this one" and that's fine.

Unless the community is just hardass jaded towards the Mocs like there's some major loyality issue, I physically CANNOT nor I WILL NOT believe that it will be less than 18,000 if not a sell-out. This also leads me to ask for Spy's input on something (I'm being serious here Spy).

I know how long a drive Statesboro-Savannah is to Chattanooga but given the stakes at hand, any chance the Eagle fanbase will travel well for this game?

I'm not expecting the 21K that normally jams at Paul B. stadium but this Saturday will be my first Mocs homegame in "five" years so I'm hoping for something resembling Saturday at the Swamp or at the Rock. I know, I know, pretty tall order. But after the fact less than 15,000 showed up for Appy-State, I cannot imagine a game where we can at be close to a sell-out.

T_T Actually, I just checked the schedules. I forgot GSU has to compete with the Jaguar Cocktail Party in neighboring J-ville at 3:30 PM. I know the Jackets have BYU but it's BYU. This just got more interesting.

Regardless, I will be there Saturday loaded for school-spirit bear.

October 22, 2012 at 10:07 a.m.
jomo11 said...

Jay- Lance Armstrong, Tiger Woods, Mike Vick, Joe Paterno, Kobe Bryant ( does anyone remember sexual assualt ), Mike Tyson, Ray Lewis ( involved in murder ), Barry Bonds, Roger Clemons, Pete Rose,

all falls from grace. Who goes on Scandal Rushmore ? is it based on endorsement ? public perception ? Ban from Sport ? or Who has made a comback ?

October 22, 2012 at 10:35 a.m.
dawg747 said...

Ten Cup: Great piece today. The teams formerly known as the Vols, the Gamecocks and the Tigers stunk up the joint this past weekend. Then Georgia made Kantucky look like Alabama for a while running up and down the field. Being a UTC grad it is with great pleasure I see the Mocs finally winning games they are supposed to and now if they can take care of bidness with GSU and Wofford have a great, great chance of hosting a playoff game. I missed the Falcons this weekend but the Giants-Skins and Patriots-Jets games made for good football viewing. Never count out Manning II or Brady.

October 22, 2012 at 10:44 a.m.
droolyvolfan said...

Hey 5er, sorry to be the one to bring the bad news...TCU opened at -1 and went off at game time at -2!!! It cost me a few entertainment vouchers too. Ouch, but your record is still not to shabby.

October 22, 2012 at 10:50 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

Observations from the weekend:

  1. Alabama is who we thought they were. And we thought they were really, really, really good.

  2. Georgia's defense is who we thought it was. Which is really, really suspect, as in Kevin Spacey getting grilled by Chazz Palmentieri.

  3. Geno Smith ain't winnin' no Heisman. Not after Saturday night. Of course, I didn't think he was all that swuft against a lackluster Maryland team, wasn't all that great against Texas Tech and the fighting Tubervilles (now how about that team?) and of course there was Saturday night's stinkfest in Morgantown. Besides, I think you have to discount those numbers he put up against Baylor, because Texas put up 42 in a half against the Bears. Not a game. Not a game. Not a game. A half. We're talking about a half. We're talking about a half, man.

  4. Might the college football game of the year in the Volunteer State be ... Georgia Southern vs. Chattanooga? The Spy's beloved Eagles aren't a finished product (they were indicative of some of the poor kicking examples around college football Saturday) but they are a tough-minded team. Scoring and going for two with 20 seconds left against Furman? That's a message, folks.

  5. In the first game post-Groh, Tech's defense held BC to 1 of 10 on third downs. That's after going 15 of 46 (i.e, they gave up third down conversions 31 times in 46 opportunities. Yuck.) against Miamuh, MTSU and Clemson. Granted, all better than BC. Very much so. But you gotta start somewhere.

October 22, 2012 at 11:05 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Run JMC—

Big week. Big week. No doubt about it. Everyone knows it too. And yes, there will be a relatively sizable GSU showing here (remember there are a lot of GSU folks in the North Georgia part of the state, and in the A-T-L too).

Jomo —

That's a big-time question. We'll use it tomorrow with our answer.

Next Monday is the QB club, right?

Dawg747 —

Thanks. It was a fun Saturday, no doubt.

Does anyone else do this: We picked Nebraska minus-5.5, and the Cornhuskers struggled like the dickens. And when it became clear they were not going to cover, we started pulling for Northwestern only to get the Discount Double Checked. (Show us what you got Raji, Raji.)

Drools —

We had the Frogs at plus-3 last Thursday. That said, looking back we did not write "buy the half" even though we always do on 3- and 7-point lines. Still, we didn't write it. So it goes.

Here's what we wrote last Thursday TCU plus-3 against Texas Tech: Every Auburn fan within the view of our writing knows this song and dance all too well from Tommy Tuberville. Have your team sky high for a huge home game against a top-five foe and play out of your mind like Texas Tech did last week against West Virginia last week. Then follow that up with a very-Tuberville-esque egg the following week. For Auburn fans it normally was a big win or great showing against a Florida or LSU and then a stinker against Arkansas. So it goes.

So without the half, it's a push and changes our season total to 27-13-2. So it goes.

— 5-at-10

October 22, 2012 at 11:18 a.m.
chas9 said...

Weeds' Story Is Good, But Here Are More Sad Stats: Since they became head SEC coaches, Joker and Double D have won the same number of SEC games. Derek and his Dominoes have beaten no ranked teams. Joker's Cats took down the #10 Spurriers in 2010. In that time, Vandy has one more SEC win.

And this year Gen. Neyland's descendants have given up 43 points and 526 yards per game, while perennial whipping boy KY has given up "only" 36 and 443. I'd say Dooley's seat is just as hot as Phillips'.

Bring back Cutcliff.

Has any national champ team fallen as far as fast as The War Eagle?

October 22, 2012 at 11:26 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent -

What about WVU? You were all-in on the bandwagon for the Mountaineers this year, and I've been trying to warn you to not get too comfortable on there, because WVU was going to lose at least once or twice this year. They've now lost by 35 and 41 points the last two weeks- to two really good teams admittedly, but still.

Here's my computer rankings Top 8 after the most recent week: 1) Alabama 2) Oregon 3) Florida 4) Kansas State 5) Notre Dame 6) Texas Tech 7) Oklahoma 8) Oregon State

I hate that Texas Tech is ranked ahead of Oklahoma right now since they lost to them, but both teams have huge games this weekend (Texas Tech at Kansas State and Notre Dame at Oklahoma). That will go a long way to sorting out this whole mess....Two Top Seven match-ups? Amazing weekend coming up, especially when you consider Alabama-Mississippi State, Florida-Georgia, and Ohio State-Penn State are all happening too....

LSU beats Alabama in two weeks, I think. LSU is much better at home, and they've started to play better. They get this week off, while Alabama has to play a physical Mississippi State team. The Tigers pull off the upset, and really send the national championship race into an uproar.

October 22, 2012 at 11:27 a.m.
jomo11 said...

Jay - see you next Monday at QB club . . . wear your Holloween costume . . .shave your head and come as Paul Finebaum . .

October 22, 2012 at 11:31 a.m.
BIspy4 said...


The Eagle faithful love them some Chattavegas. There will be a good crowd. As an example, for the playoff game at Wofford, there were more Eagles fans than Anklebiters fans in the stands at Gibbs Stadium.

October 22, 2012 at 11:32 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Spy —

You making the trip?

It's a biggie.

9er —

TCU in 1938 won the title with Davey O'Brien at quarterback and then went 3-7 the following year. At least Auburn went 8-5 last year.

It's bad. Really bad.

And the difference between Dooley and Joker: Dooley inherited a mess (and we say knowing well that we're not a Dooley apologist, just that it's true); Joker inherited a UK team that was doing positive things.

— 5-at-10

October 22, 2012 at 11:37 a.m.
jgreeson said...

Jomo —

Looking forward to it. But to come as Finebaum, we'd have to shave our head, wear a tie and leave our dignity at the door. (That and add a couple extra digits to the checking account.)

Stuck —

We were wrong on Geno and 'Neers. We can admit that.

But why are you bagging on the Tide? In the words of Maximus, "Are you not entertained?"

— 5-at-10

October 22, 2012 at 11:42 a.m.
BIspy4 said...


I kinda sorta promised somebody I might stop in and see them this Saturday night in Hotlanta. So ....

Shoot, I didn't even make the honors program reunion this weekend. Of course, they tend not to invite those who were asked to no longer be a part of the program (they said I had a bad attitude. Me? A bad attitude? Surely, they jest.).

But I do need to a pay visit to Chattanooga sometime soon. Been too long.

October 22, 2012 at 11:46 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

I never pick against LSU at home at night. It's one of my rules in betting. Take LSU every time. I think I heard this stat correctly- the last time they lost at home at night was when they lost to Tennessee in 2005 when the game got moved to Monday night because of Hurricane Katrina. So it's been a while. Alabama is the best team in the country- but LSU is always the pick at home at night. Alabama is better than everyone else, but we are annointing them awfully early- like USC in 2005, or Oklahoma in 2003 (prior to their blowout losses to KSU and LSU, the Sooners were being mentioned as the best team ever), or Duke in NCAA basketball in 1999. Got to let the whole season play out....Never crown a team until the season is done. As for the Heisman- I got Klein and then McCarron if I had a ballot right now. Those two are the two best players in the country....So it's not so much a hating on Alabama as a loving LSU at home at night....

(and from about 8 a.m. this morning — 5-at-10 miscue, should have posted it first)

I'm here to eat my crow (and would like it noted that I'm sending this e-mail before the 5-at-10 comes out). It doesn't taste the best, but I think I'll get used to it eventually.

— 5-at-10

October 22, 2012 at 12:17 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

spy wrote-

"The Eagle faithful love them some Chattavegas. There will be a good crowd. As an example, for the playoff game at Wofford, there were more Eagles fans than Anklebiters fans in the stands at Gibbs Stadium."

LOL!! Nice Wofford slam spy. From what you and greeson stated this will definitely be highly attended event.

I'm guessing Eagle fans must be like North Texas fans: They ONLY appear during game day. Not to call bull on the subject but growing up in the 'Noog I've naturally spent tons and tons of hours in the NW Georgia (and Atlanta during my AWA years) part of the world and have never come across GSU fans. Mostly Dawg fans and the occasional Yellowjacket. Same here in the Big D. Lots of Aggies, Lots of 'Horns, the occasional Frog and Pony, But NO Mean Green except on game day...weird. T_T

October 22, 2012 at 12:24 p.m.
BIspy4 said...


Eagles fans travel well, but they got lost in the shuffle during the week in north Georgia, especially against the red and black tide. A lot of the student body is from metro Atlanta, but the fan base remains largely in the southern half of the state. Still a lot of Georgia allegiances among Southern students and some fans (one of our notable country music star alums has spoken fondly of days at Sanford Stadium ... not Paulson), though fans at Southern games through the years have greeted Tech scores warmly and not so much Georgia's scores announced on the PA.

October 22, 2012 at 12:59 p.m.
chas9 said...

After Saturday's games, it's clearer than ever that The Gators will take a big chomp out of anybody this side of Tuscaloosa and that The Cats are still 100-lb. weaklings. I know this, so these numbers are all the weirder:

Against similar foes (Gawga and The Cocks), KY more than doubled FLA's rushing yards (206 to 89), had more passing yards despite a decimated QB corps, and had 21 first downs to 14.

Only an idiot would think KY is better'n FL, but what these numbers may tell us is that UGA's defense is soft and Florida wins more with defense than offense. It's unusual for an elite team to dominate so thoroughly a ranked opponent and only manage 183 yards of offense.

Can disconsolate Vols muster enough cheer to celebrate alum Tamika Catchings' first WNBA championship and final four MVP?

October 22, 2012 at 1:05 p.m.
fechancellor said...

Ran down to the grocery this AM as there was no milk in the house. On the two quart cardboards were printed...

Missing, Tyler Bray. Bray has a tendency to mouth off only exceeded by his proclivity to overthrow 6" 6' receivers while under the least amount of pressure. Can be found engaged in water sports, drinking beer.

Missing, Justin Hunter. No specific information on Hunter other than he was last seen at 3:00PM Saturday afternoon.

Missing, a host of Volunteers!

Cordarrelle Patterson did not shrink in the bright lights of Saturday night. Dooley needs to figure a way to get this man the ball more often. Patterson with his fine set of hands reminds a bit of Stanely Morgan. Also complimentary is Patterson's ombination of explosiveness, speed and running style. (Just to be clear, I'm saying reminds)

Dooley should adjust his offense accordingly, as Patterson will not be back next year.

October 22, 2012 at 1:13 p.m.
Stewwie said...

Good win for the Mocs on Saturday. The offense is being conservative but it's effective because of the crazy formations and various options at their disposal. And there's been no turnovers recently. Well played on special teams too. A big weakness though is the lack of a chain-mover at RB. Someone has to step up and be that guy (Jackson, Williams (if he can get back on the field), Huitt, or Tyson).

[Back to UT for a second. For anyone who says Dooley inherited a mess, well, yes he did. But didn't Russ not inherit every bit as big a mess?]

Not to take away from Huesman's success thus far, but B.J. Coleman unexpectedly landed in his lap and that helped the progress immensely. Plus I think that turning a program around is easier in the FCS than in the FBS...and especially tough for a program in today's SEC.

[Back to UT for one more second, Yes, Dooley inherited a mess, but remember who one of the potential candidates was when Dooley was hired — none other than David Cutcliffe. Yes, that David Cutcliffe who has Duke in first place in the ACC Coastal and already bowl eligible for the first time since 1994.]

Kudos to Cutcliffe for staying put at Duke. For all the Dooley critics, Dooley was probably the best available of anyone who gave any thought to coming to TN in that mess. Even worse, it took TN paying him roughly $2MM/yr. and those stiff contract terms to get him to come. TN had to act quickly, and they really had no choice but to get who they got.

Quick question: Is Oregon St. a legit Top-10 team or are they overrated?

The Stewwie clan was at Old McDonald Farm on Saturday. Nice day and good times indeed.

October 22, 2012 at 1:22 p.m.
chas9 said...

fec has a great point about the missing. I picked up the current Kickoff today and it has a list of the top 30 receivers. Vols are missing. And this is the vaunted passing offense of which Nurse B said it wouldn't matter how weak the defense might be, the offense would outscore all comers.

October 22, 2012 at 2:36 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

fechancellor said-

"Missing, Tyler Bray. Bray has a tendency to mouth off only exceeded by his proclivity to overthrow 6" 6' receivers while under the least amount of pressure. Can be found engaged in water sports, drinking beer."

Another good LOL! And unfortunately true. I have never been a Payton Manning fan a day in my life but two things about him I WILL respect: He had class (aside from the stupid mooning insident) and he produced. Seriously, Romo can throw more accurately than this clown.

Stewwie wrote-

"Not to take away from Huesman's success thus far, but B.J. Coleman unexpectedly landed in his lap and that helped the progress immensely."

This is definitely true. I vividly remember reading a transcript from an interview about two years ago where Coach Huesman said if not for BJ, the program would have taken 3-4 years from the time he started to even begin to do a turnaround.

Finally, thanks to Spy for the "nice, mature" explination as to why finding GSU fans can sometimes fall in the same catagory as finding Waldo.

October 22, 2012 at 2:59 p.m.
WilliamRscott said...

Who other than me went to the UTC-Samford game this past Saturday? Official stats show attendence was 7,100. My estimate = 1,500; maybe 2,000. Very disappointing, but I guess that shows how many UT and bammer fans there are in this market. It was fall break weekend at UTC, so other than the band, very few students were there. The Vols play at noon this Saturday, UGa-Fla at 3:30, and bammer-Miss State at 8:30. I hope Run JMC is right about a 5-digit attendence against Ga Southern, but the competition for the entertainment dollar is tough on a football Saturday. Go Blue, Be Gold...Go Mocs! Also, I predicted UA 56, UT 28. I guess I lost on a tie-breaker (?)

October 22, 2012 at 3:02 p.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Tennessee fans outnumber the other schools fanbase here about 3 to 1 (some here will disagree with me but that is my take on it). Since Tennessee is playing at 12 noon, the odds are in our favor for an attendence simular to what is at the Rock every Saturday. Plus, Tennessee-Alabama is a deep rooted tradition in these parts. That said, a "Furman-like" attendence was not all that surprising at last week's game. Plus, the fact we're playing for basically the championship will also help in the draw for this Saturday. Needless to say, I will be doing some preaching on the airwaves when I get home in about 80 minutes.

October 22, 2012 at 3:16 p.m.
jgreeson said...


We have high hopes for the weekend's festivities, but we've been underwhelmed before.

Spy —

Nice manners. Let's hope they continue through the week.

FE to the C —

CPatterson is a beast. That is all.

Stay classy Statesboro.

9er —

From the files of the overreaction department...

Chas9 thinks UK is better than Florida. And it's not even basketball season.

Seriously nice effort by the Cats.

Stew —

Agree with the BJ Coleman line.

Not sold on Oregon State yet. Think they are playing over their heads, but wins are wins, ask Auburn fans.

Old McDonald's Farm was cool.

BillyScott —

That's not good about the attendance. We knew fall break would hurt — and that's actually a glass half full thing in that more students have been going lately.

The tie-breaker was total points and closest to. The final was 44-13 = 57. You had 56+28=84 and Harold had 42+14=56.

— 5-at-10

October 22, 2012 at 3:33 p.m.
Stewwie said...


I was at the game as well. Sometimes it's hard to tell for sure how many are in the stands when everybody spreads out, but there were closer to 7,100 fans than 2,000 for sure. And yes, virtually no students were there. It was fall break, but there are plenty of local kids who could have been there but instead stayed home to watch the Vols get whipped. Their loss.

I'm thinking 15k will be there this Saturday...12-13k Moc fans and 2-3k GSU fans. The noon Vols kickoff helps. Also, Florida vs. Georgia doesn't look as appealing as it did a few weeks ago.

Chas (or anybody),

Where can I pick up a Kickoff?

October 22, 2012 at 3:41 p.m.
chas9 said...

I drop by the Kickoff offices on Chestnut at the foot of the highway 27 exit ramp onto Main St. for mine.

October 22, 2012 at 4:05 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Manners, I have.

A strong command of the English language, I have.

A proclivity for profanity ... yeah, got that too.

October 22, 2012 at 6:35 p.m.
Muddog said...

Jay- Love the 5-at-10. Longtime reader, first time making a comment. As a lifelong Vols and Braves fan, you understand my need to vent.

Until Saturday's game against the Tide, I believed Tennessee had the talent to compete with other SEC teams. I thought their shortcomings were just due to poor coaching. Botched assignments, always being out of place (and I mean ALWAYS), poor tackling were just a few things that contributed to the Vols always finding ways to lose games. But still, I thought the talent was there. Boy was I wrong.

I've never seen Vols' corners get beat like they got beat Saturday. They couldn't keep up with Bama's receivers, much less tackle them. And in the few instances where they were in position to make a play, they didn't/couldn't. It looked like a SoCon or SunBelt-level unit. They were utterly helpless.

The heartbreak from the Braves' rude exit from the playoffs is just now wearing off to the point where I can watch baseball so I'm looking forward to Game 7 tonight.

Definitely looking forward to the Mocs' game Saturday. It's great to see the hometown boys play meaningful games again.

I, like you, have been riding the K-State train this year (and last year). I find college ball much easier to pick than NFL. WHY IS THAT?? In my fewer-by-the-week NFL wagers, I'm going to take the exact opposite of what makes the most sense because that's how their games seem to end up against the spread.

I have a question for you- If Tennessee played Auburn this year, who would win?

October 22, 2012 at 8:35 p.m.
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