published Wednesday, October 24th, 2012

'Stand on Publix is nearsighted' and more Letters to the Editors

Stand on Publix is nearsighted

Writing in reference to your editorial, “Publix’s undeserved deal” (Oct. 19), I believe that your position on urban development is fanatically nearsighted.

At the bright, hot center of environmentally sustainable growth and progressive public policy is the push to get commercial spaces into downtown population centers. A downtown supermarket cuts transportation costs and improves accessibility for lower-income citizens. It also draws more business to an area where business belongs.

There are “big box” grocery stores in downtown Brooklyn. That is not an argument.

WILLIAM H. PAYNE IV


Publix location will cause issues

I live in Red Bank. I work downtown, taking Cherokee Boulevard to Market Street bridge route. I shop, eat, etc. on Cherokee-Frazier-North Market all the time.

When I first heard that Publix was coming to North Market Street, I thought “Great! Convenient location.”

But I agree with the Times editorial (Oct. 19) on the location and the traffic problems it will impose. 18- wheeler trucks coming and going on narrow, busy streets will surely cause traffic jams. Trucks entering/exiting the North Market Street side of Publix may not have a problem but I don’t see how a big truck can safely squeeze into the tiny, two-lane Woodland Avenue corner from Frazier. Cars can barely navigate it.

Cars are going into and coming out of Walgreens’ Woodland Avenue entrance all the time. Cars also are coming out of the nearby post office onto Woodland. Publix should plan on deliveries before 6 a.m. and after 7 p.m. Mondays through Fridays.

I know the beautiful, hugely populated Northshore wants/needs a grocery store, but this location may create even more traffic congestion.

Publix should have chosen Red Bank. We have plenty of empty storefronts and space.

CINDY TAYLOR

Red Bank


Wilderness areas are good for all

After reading “Bill to add wilderness areas mired in politics,” (Oct. 15) I noticed some feedback about wilderness being a liberal, partisan issue.

Thankfully, wilderness is far from that.

Oct. 16 was the 26th anniversary of the Tennessee Wilderness Act of 1986, which Ronald Reagan signed into law creating the Unaka Mountain, Pond Mountain, Sampson Mountain, Big Laurel Branch and Little Frog Mountain Wilderness areas. The bill also added 3,000 acres to the Big Frog Wilderness, created in 1984 when Reagan signed the Tennessee Wilderness Act of ’84 into law. Championed by Lamar Alexander, Tennessee’s two Republican senators have a new bill that builds on Reagan’s wilderness legacy by expanding four areas created during the Reagan era. I moved to Chattanooga for Tennessee’s natural beauty. As a volunteer for Tennessee Wild and a mother of a 13-year old who has hiked these areas, I can tell you that their value as wilderness is good for the economy, for the animals that live there and for the watershed so important to our own existence.

I hope that you’ll join me in hiking with Tennessee Wild and by calling or writing your representatives asking them to pass Senate Bill S.1090 this Congress.

CAARA FRITZ


Obama’s failures are so obvious

I am disappointed that many of my liberal friends have been unfairly criticized and are being accused for being against voter ID, and being blamed for Obama being elected in 2008 because of voter ID.

I believe that they just didn’t avail themselves of the facts, such as Obama’s broken promises, his approval of same-sex marriages, his abortion stand, the staggering economy, his flawed ObamaCare, his dismal foreign policy, the Benghazi fiasco. But it is encouraging to see that many liberals are beginning to see the light because his failures have become so obvious and many seem to be wising up to the media bias that so often shows its ugly head in the Chattanooga Times editorials.

CAREY CROUCH


‘Mormon issue’ isn’t to be feared

I do not see how “the Mormon issue” could affect the presidency very much, or why people should or would be afraid of a president who was of the Mormon faith. Religionists would have no reason to fear lack of advocacy for their moral agenda as Romney (and his party) already has made clear his pro-life and sanctity of marriage position.

As for advancing his church, no one, under the observance of the nation, could advance their own religion without the press getting wind of it and announcing it to the nation, or Congress not catching it and barring passage of whatever act/law. One Christian faith over another hardly should affect the candidacy for Republican voters as long as they stand firm on those issues, as few convicted Christians will stand for the legalization of child sacrifice, aka abortion, or a corruption of the Eden-ordained institution of marriage, whether it is constitutional or not.

ANTHONY BOTTICELLI

Cleveland, Tenn.


Remember baby’s footprint too

A letter to the editors (Oct. 19) says, “Obama only clear moral choice.”

The writer bemoans our stewardship of the environment and regurgitates the predictable rant against the rich, of course using the Scriptures, for his case that President Obama must be the one clear choice. Protecting the environment is important, but also many rich people do a lot of wonderful good for this world.

Barack Obama is pro-choice. Think of all the millions of humans in this country whose lives have been snuffed out by abortion. This barbaric obscenity needs to stop. It’s either choking guilt or cleverly dressed up evil that enables our culture not to refer to abortion as pro-death. Do you wonder why we can’t call it what it really is? Can you not see the origin of this abomination? And the writer wanted to write about “unconscionable acts against God.” If we are to worry about our carbon footprint, let us not forget about baby’s footprint too.

JIM GOODIN

Decatur, Tenn.


Return Allen, Lusk; elect Preston

Eight years ago, we drove up to Signal Mountain and discovered a town that we decided to call home. Signal Mountain looks and lives as well as it did eight years ago. This is not by accident. We’ve been fortunate to have, working for the citizens, a council that has initiative, that is well informed, and that works diligently to preserve and conserve our way of life.

Annette Allen and Bill Lusk are an integral part of this council. They have the will to thoroughly investigate the issues that come before them and the political courage to cast the difficult votes. They’ve invested time and expertise to protect the amenities we expect and the value of our homes. They’ve steered us through an economic shock, while laying the groundwork to protect us from future economic downturns. They deserve our votes.

Two years ago we supported Frank Preston in his run for council because of his reputation and service to the town. We are delighted that he has chosen to run for office again. His work ethic, his thoughtfulness, and his careful, informed attitude would make an amazing addition to the town council.

DAVID AND MELISSA CANTRELL

Signal Mountain


Some reasons not to choose Romney

I voted early but didn’t vote for Mitt Romney. Why? Romney said he “wasn’t worried about the poor.”

I was taught the poor mattered.

I didn’t vote for Romney because he said, “Get a loan from your parents to go to college.” Thank God and the Democratic Party I had the GI Bill.

I didn’t vote for Romney because he would repeal “ObamaCare,” the exact health program he passed in Massachusetts. A bill written for him by the Heritage Foundation. You can’t get more conservative than that.

I didn’t vote for Romney because he believes 47 percent of Americans are moochers. That means if you are not a Republican, you want a handout.

I didn’t vote for Romney because he would destroy Social Security with his voucher program. He says old folks shouldn’t worry. Well, if it so good let us have it.

I didn’t vote for Romney because I pay a higher tax rate than he does. I am not afraid of revealing my tax returns; he is. And I truly don’t understand how Republicans can vote for him since he has changed his position on so many issues they care about.

Who is this Mitt Romney?

WELDON R. MARKHAM


Elect Campbell to lead Walker

On Nov. 6, we will have a choice in whom we want to serve as our county commissioner in Walker County.

I urge everyone who voted for me to write in Ales Campbell for commissioner of Walker County. This is our chance to change the course that is leading Walker County to financial crisis. We must change course or face a bleak future for our children and loved ones. I implore voters to follow these simple steps:

At the race for commissioner, select write in. Type in Ales Campbell and press "Record Write-in." This will add Ales Campbell to the screen with a "X" beside her name. Make sure you see her name typed on the screen when reviewing your ballot.

If you have any problems or questions, ask one of the poll workers for help.

This is our chance for honest and responsive government and a better future for all of our citizens.

We can take back Walker County.

G. PAUL SHAW

LaFayette, Ga.


Vote against charter school bid

The Catoosa County Democratic Party is against a constitutional amendment to guarantee the state's authority to charter independent public schools.

It is known as Amendment No. 1 on your ballot.

We stand with the Georgia state education superintendent who believes the proposal threatens local control and state financial support for traditional public schools.

Schools days have been cut, students are denied a full year's education, over 4,000 teachers out of a job since 2008, cut in retirement benefits and pay, and enrollment is up.

Georgia has more than 100 charter schools in operation today.

We do not need to change the state Constitution.

I feel this is an attempt to destroy our public school system and tear down our nation.

Vote early! Vote no!

ERNIE PURSLEY

Catoosa County Democratic Party Chairman


Manning an honest public servant

Denny Manning is truly a public servant. He is honest, sincere and dedicated. For two terms, eight years, he has been faithful and voted for the things he feels is the best for East Ridge. Denny is a very respected person and has a great wife who strongly supports him.

Our city employees have a great respect for Denny. They know they can count on him.

He deserves another four years.

CURTIS D. ADAMS


Tennessee needs cyberbullying law

The map accompanying Sunday's article on the mother of a cyberbullying victim shows a shocking white space: Tennessee. Our state is one of only a handful that have not passed a law addressing this growing problem. I am not a parent, but my heart goes out to the children and parents who are victims of vicious, anonymous attacks. The Internet has opened up a whole new world of cruelty.

Parents: Do you know what your child is saying to other kids online? If not, you need to find out. And please, ask your state representatives to pass a law making cyberbullying a crime. Bullying is not a "rite of passage." It's an acceptance of non-compassion that has lifelong consequences for both the victim -- and the bully.

JANIS HASHE

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ToHoldNothing said...

Just when I thought we were even temporarily free of willful ignorance about abortion and gay marriage, we're reminded of it again a little less than 2 weeks before election day.

Abortion advocates should be called pro abortion rights. Not pro death, which is more up the GOP alley anyway. Death from war, death from poverty, death from lack of insurance coverage, and let's not forget the death penalty support. Pro choice voters more than likely oppose war, oppose policies that don't solve poverty, oppose giving insurance companies more excuses to deny basic coverage and oppose the death penalty.

The mere killing of what happens to be genetically a human being does not constitute murder any more than a miscarriage or stillbirth are manslaughter. They are both biologically abortions, the expulsion of a zygote/embryo/fetus from the womb. One is elective, one is involuntary.

Many abortions aren't even done when the "baby" is even remotely viable, so killing them is not unjust in that they had a chance. And I would rather not have a child than either give it up to be potentially left to the state's discretion or try to raise it with the economy as it is.

But this is why support of contraception and education about its use is of such prime importance. If people use birth control, there will be that many less abortions. As Planned Parenthood puts it, "abortion should be safe, legal and rare," (Emphasis on the rare)

And do I even need to comment much on the idiocy of claiming Eden actually existed and somehow ordained marriage? It's as ridiculous as the notion that we all came from literally just 2 human beings interbreeding with each other in the worst kind of incest next to the stereotypes that exist of the South.

October 24, 2012 at 1:03 a.m.
Livn4life said...

Nothing...since we see you know everything about everything and it is all completely left leaning, much of which is baloney, since we see your calling all perspectives which differ from yours as ignorant and idiocy; I wish to point out you definitely qualify to be a liberal leader. Can we write in your name for President? People in this nation have a right to oppose abortion and same sex marriage on a number of moral grounds not to mention elements of nature that are involved. These are all separate from the religiosity which is always attacked unless it is open to anything and everything. So why go on and on with all your jambo and just let some people smolter in their(according to you) states of ignorance and idiocy? I mean, ones who oppose you are not calling you names. Get on in the race pal.

October 24, 2012 at 2:23 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Richard Mourdock, republican candidate from Indiana, is a great example of why religious extremists of all stripes are dangerous. What a goof-ball!

And then the brain-dead Mourdock (perhaps he's had a frontal lobotomy as god intended) made the laughable comment, "Certainly, I did not intend to suggest that God wants rape, that God pushes people to rape, that God wants to support or condone evil in any way.. . .I'm absolutely confident, as I stand here, that the God that I worship abhors violence, abhors sexual violence, and abhors rape."

Hasn't Mourdock ever read his Bible? It's full of God-sanctioned rape, violence and sexual misconduct.

Mourdock's a miracle from Gawd — another talking ass.

October 24, 2012 at 4:48 p.m.
ToHoldNothing said...

If by liberal, you mean classical liberal, I'll take that title proudly. Conservative as a term is ridiculous, since preserving tradition is not by necessity always a good thing and innovation is a method of progress tempered by discretion, not previous established norms of culture

I do not call all positions that differ from mine specifically idiocy. And you use ignorance in a way it is most often incorrectly interpreted. It simply means you don't know: it is not meant to disparage a person, but correct them to learn.

People have a right to oppose same sex marriage and abortion, but any arguments are bogus, far as I've heard them. Nature supports homosexuality as a basic variation on sexuality and abortion is a medical procedure, so any argument on the basis of nature is missing the point of medicine, as well as technology in general not technically being "natural"

And you can't write my name in for president, since I'm not even remotely qualified. I still need 10 years of life to even meet the age requirement. I'm only remotely qualified to be a House Representative and I've never really been interested in political management or the like, to be honest.

I prefer to correct and educate those who insist on believing nonsense and not using critical thinking skills to advance a sound and valid argument instead of trying to use power to change things as if that will effect lasting influence

October 24, 2012 at 6:59 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

A Sovereign Nation Has the Right to Reward Individuals Within Unions (Marriages) Who Have the Greatest Expectation to Procreate. [Nations Need Taxpayers]. A Sovereign Nation Has the Right to Deny Reward (Insurance/Tax Write-Offs/Death Benefits to Spouses, etc.)to Individual Unions Which do Not Have the Expectation to Procreate. Also, A Sovereign Nation Has the Right to Discourage Supporting Individuals Who Cost Their Innocent Tax Payers approximately $20,000,000,000 [Twenty Billion Dollars] Per Year. The Average Cost to Treat One Case of HIV/AIDS is Over $400,000 [Four Hundred Thousand Dollars Per Lifetime. (Source: Center for Disease Control {CDC} HIV Surveillance Report 2009, Vol 21). So, My Question to You: "Shall We Change The Definition of Husband to Mean Woman, Or, The Definition of Wife to Mean Man? Shall We Do This Even Though These Unions Go Against The Wisdom and Needs of a Sovereign United States of America? This Chosen Lifestyle is Not to be Forced Upon a Sovereign Nation.

Is There An Answer Available For This Question? Are There Any Known 'Heterosexual' Members of THE NORTH AMERICAN MAN-BOY LOVE ASSOCIATION? Their Website, NAMBLA.ORG, Which Is Granted U.S. Government Protection, And, A Free .ORG Status Does Not Reveal The Member Names Of Their Organization. I Would Like To Know If The Men (Members) Who Write Articles Promoting Having Sex With 11 and 12 Year Old Little Boys Claim They Are 'Heterosexual'. I Do Know The Vast Majority Of The Homosexual Members Hide The Fact Of Their Membership From The Public. Really, Just Wondering.

REGARDING ABORTIONISTS WHO PROMOTE SLAUGHTER HOUSES:

Do not presume to possess the 'God' power to destroy even the process of life...life itself begins when sperm and ovum unite. Who gave You that authority? That right to interfere?

October 24, 2012 at 9:56 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Jeremiah 1:5... "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations." (Holy Bible: Old Testament)

Saint Luke 2:21..."And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the Angel before He was conceived in the womb." (Holy Bible: New Testament)

Psalms 139:15..."My substance was not hid from Thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth."

*What deeper solitude, what state of concealment more complete, than that of the babe as yet unborn. Yet the Psalmist represents the Almighty as present even there.*

Psalm 139:15...'My substance'...This refers to the basic frame or skeleton. Note also the similar testimony in Ecclesiastes 11:5. The marvels of embryonic growth are still largely unexplained by scientists, but God knows!

Psalm 139:15...'curiously wrought'. Curiously wrought means 'embroidered', a striking description of the double-helical DNA molecular program, which organizes part by part the beautiful structure of the whole infant.

Psalm 139:15...'lowest parts'. For 'lowest parts', read... 'nether parts', or, 'hidden parts'. God made these hidden parts, or elements, of the earth, then formed Adam's body from this dust of the earth (Genesis 2:7). He created within the body of Adam and Eve the marvelous and complex ability to multiply that body, finally to generate from these lowest parts of the earth, through the curiously wrought embroidery of DNA, all the many billions of their descendants, including David himself.

October 24, 2012 at 10 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

ToHoldNothing said, "And do I even need to comment much on the idiocy of claiming Eden actually existed and somehow ordained marriage?"

Now He who proclaims, ""I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life..." Our Lord God of Hosts, Jesus Christ of Nazareth speaks with Love, Mercy, and, Judgment:

"...Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?... answer thou me. Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof...Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death? Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all. Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof, That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof? Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great? Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail...By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?... Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?...Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it." SELAH!

October 24, 2012 at 10:21 p.m.
rumrunr said...

orr my man, step away from the "over the top" scripture stuff. might trip your trigger, but not really all that useful. and yes,i know i'm a "damn Progressive" slated to burn in hell. maybe, maybe not. we both have a 50/50 chance on that. wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

October 24, 2012 at 11:38 p.m.
ToHoldNothing said...

Orr, I don't think you'll really care to even look at my criticism, but life doesn't start with sperm and ovum, except in the sense of unique genetic material. Life is in a cycle and sperm and ovum are part of that. Life began a couple billion years ago in the form of some method of abiogenesis and thus it started that cycle going

And you're really just going to throw Job at me to claim I can't criticize your Biblical literalism? Move on and just admit you have no grounds for your belief in Eden or a sacred marriage.

October 25, 2012 at 12:24 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Ken Orr, you had a lot of reading to do to catch up to the real world. Have you completed it? Care to give a summary of each?

October 25, 2012 at 9:07 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

It's a complete waste of time trying to reason with OML (Ken Orr). The poor guy is a victim of his own biblically besotted brain. I don't know if any of you are old enough to remember Dan Martino. He was a local street preacher who stood on various street corners downtown many years ago, usually at lunch hour, waving his Bible and yelling out Bible quotes of hellfire and damnation for those who do not "repent." Orr reminds me of that guy, only he does his preaching on the internet. Andrew Lohr is another one who's pretty much on the same planet of whacked-out religiosity.

Sadly, there are too many others just like these guys, who don't have the common sense of a 12 yr.-old to see that the Bible is not supposed to be taken literally. And sadder still, too many of them (like Richard Mourdock, Todd Akin, and Paul Broun, to name a few) are in positions of power and influence in politics. It's bad enough that there are people whose minds are so wasted on the drug of religion but it's disgusting and embarrassing that we have nitwits like those guys in government.

October 25, 2012 at 11 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

lkeithlu wrote: Ken Orr, you had a lot of reading to do to catch up to the real world. Have you completed it?"

It's hard for Orr to read when he's straight-jacketed in the rubber-room. However, he has declared himself as the Marshall Applewhite of Ooltewah, waiting for Jebus to return on His Holy Big Wheel.

October 25, 2012 at 11:03 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

I figured if Ken has time to obsess on child sexual abuse and falsely equate that with homosexuality, he needs a new reading list. However, I want to make sure he has carefully read the list he requested last month.

October 25, 2012 at 11:21 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Sure wouldn't want Orr to babysit my kids, or even be around them.

He's the person my parents warned me about.

October 25, 2012 at 11:37 a.m.
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